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Post by ocgiant on Nov 30, 2021 20:55:04 GMT -5
I am trusting they fix the OL & DL issues this next year and bring in another QB for some competition to challenge DJ so he is not necessarly the starter maybe to big of an ask from what is available out there? Assuming Dave is gone (please let that be true) I agree completely. A new GM will have no allegiance to Daniel Jones.....or Saquan Barkley.
All bets are off for 2022.
I bought in on DJ but thought it was too high of a pick, SB I was no in agreement but bought in on his talent would give the Giants a serious weapon to build an offense upon. I was wrong both times DJ is up & down not consistent enough and the last two games have proven to me he is not the QB to lead this team forward. SB just to many injuries and he cannot run inside he is better as a speciality back and in space too much of luxury for the price he'll want to be paid. I am with you time to move on with yet again another reset but I see no other option at this point. Maybe Judge survives.
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Post by vinnie on Nov 30, 2021 21:03:38 GMT -5
Assuming Dave is gone (please let that be true) I agree completely. A new GM will have no allegiance to Daniel Jones.....or Saquan Barkley.
All bets are off for 2022.
I bought in on DJ but thought it was too high of a pick, SB I was no in agreement but bought in on his talent would give the Giants a serious weapon to build an offense upon. I was wrong both times DJ is up & down not consistent enough and the last two games have proven to me he is not the QB to lead this team forward. SB just to many injuries and he cannot run inside he is better as a speciality back and in space too much of luxury for the price he'll want to be paid. I am with you time to move on with yet again another reset but I see no other option at this point. Maybe Judge survives. I hated the DJ pick from the get go but it’s ridiculous for anyone to assume that I (or anyone else who didn’t like the pick) wanted him to fail. There were even times where he got my hopes but the consistency isn’t there and I’m done hearing the excuses. Yeah, the O line sucks, but even when he does have time he falls into his same old habits too often. After the TB game, I decided I was done giving him second and 10th chances, I’ve had it with him. Unfortunately, I don’t see a QB in this draft worth chasing so we’re better off building the O line and D line and hope to draft a QB in 2 years when we’re hopefully more stable.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Nov 30, 2021 21:12:34 GMT -5
Well 6 games left. If Jones is hurt and apparently serious there is no reason to bring him back this season.
I had thought the Giants could win 3-4 of the remaining 6 and make a run to try and save jobs. But now I don't know if this gives Judge and Jones an out and gives them another year. Or they just get caught with the broom and get swept out together.
I think here I go again,
I can't help myself when I watch them I root for them to win but knowing it would be better to lose most of them. I want these 2 first rd picks to be as low as possible. This has been a lot of fans dilemma 9 out of the last 10 years. Once again just get through the end of this season as best we can.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 30, 2021 21:34:50 GMT -5
let’s flex the 5th year option in hopes we find out what he is after extending Barkley for a fortune before figuring out what he is.
Gettlemam would.
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Post by te88 on Nov 30, 2021 21:36:50 GMT -5
I am trusting they fix the OL & DL issues this next year and bring in another QB for some competition to challenge DJ so he is not necessarly the starter maybe to big of an ask from what is available out there? Assuming Dave is gone (please let that be true) I agree completely. A new GM will have no allegiance to Daniel Jones.....or Saquan Barkley.
All bets are off for 2022.
I would hope but we have seen ownership play favourites with players on this team many times. I think “all bets are off” is wishful thinking. Daniel Jones and Barkley are as much Mara guys as they are Gettleman guys and the Maras are going nowhere.
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Post by SG88 on Nov 30, 2021 21:44:13 GMT -5
I don't see how the offense can look any worse anyway. Lmfao!!! You're the best
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Post by McCherry on Nov 30, 2021 21:50:16 GMT -5
As opposed to running safely? ..... yes? Like learning to slide or go out of bounds? Like not ducking your head down for an extra yard every time. I watched Jones slide on most of his runs Sunday, I watched Hurts get hit all day Sunday... Why isn't it considered reckless when players like him, Mahomes and Jackson run all over the place?
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 30, 2021 21:50:55 GMT -5
Every time I think about how the Giants want to do things the Giants the so-called Giants way, they want the next Eli, they want a guy that walks talks breaths and looks like Eli Manning smdh. That's good for us we are we deserve just what the hell we get let us keep losing our sorry asses it's a damn shame. **** the Giants and Daniel Jones dumb ass can't even slide correctly
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 30, 2021 22:03:28 GMT -5
I don't see how the offense can look any worse anyway. Lmfao!!! You're the best Lol honestly he's not wrong.
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 30, 2021 22:22:55 GMT -5
Mike? A troll?
That's foolish.
Not more than his ignorant trolling comments. He defended Dave Gettleman until it was almost guaranteed he wouldn’t be coming back, that says it all. No offense...but as a poster....you couldn't carry Mike's jockstrap.
Again....No offense.
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 30, 2021 22:36:27 GMT -5
..... yes? Like learning to slide or go out of bounds? Like not ducking your head down for an extra yard every time. He’s a troll and doesn’t know football, you should do what I should have done a long time ago and just ignore him. Because he doesn't agree with you? C'mon now.
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Post by DonnieYen on Nov 30, 2021 22:38:44 GMT -5
I thought we had a chance to beat the Dolphins with Jones but not with Glennon. I will still watch but I don't feel good about our chances. Does anyone think Glennon is better then Colt McCoy? I'm not sure?
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 30, 2021 22:41:54 GMT -5
2 steps foward ,4 steps back and 2 sideways ..
I'm glad I'm missing like 2 games when I go back to Dubai in 2 weeks..
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 30, 2021 22:48:12 GMT -5
Not more than his ignorant trolling comments. He defended Dave Gettleman until it was almost guaranteed he wouldn’t be coming back, that says it all. No offense...but as a poster....you couldn't carry Mike's jockstrap.
Again....No offense.
So there is a jockstrap award for being wrong so often? I don’t see Vinnie winning that one considering how often he’s correct.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 30, 2021 22:49:34 GMT -5
I thought we had a chance to beat the Dolphins with Jones but not with Glennon. I will still watch but I don't feel good about our chances. Does anyone think Glennon is better then Colt McCoy? I'm not sure? i think the Giants are going to run the table b/c i read the playcalling is 100% better
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 30, 2021 22:51:17 GMT -5
No offense...but as a poster....you couldn't carry Mike's jockstrap.
Again....No offense.
So there is a jockstrap award for being wrong so often? I don’t see Vinnie winning that one considering how often he’s correct. We aren't scored on our predictions. This is a place to talk about football. Mike does that as well as anyone.
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Post by McCherry on Nov 30, 2021 22:51:22 GMT -5
Mike? A troll? That's foolish.
Not more than his ignorant trolling comments. He defended Dave Gettleman until it was almost guaranteed he wouldn’t be coming back, that says it all. Vin, the weekend is over my man, sleep it off already. There will be plenty more holes to punch in the wall tomorrow.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 30, 2021 22:54:11 GMT -5
So there is a jockstrap award for being wrong so often? I don’t see Vinnie winning that one considering how often he’s correct. We aren't scored on our predictions. This is a place to talk about football. Mike does that as well as anyone. so does Vinnie.
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Post by hogmollies on Dec 1, 2021 0:12:34 GMT -5
He was ruled out. He runs too recklessly. As opposed to running safely? Is this supposed to be a joke? He runs like an idiot diving head first into defenders. He's a QUARTERBACK. None of the top mobile QB's even like a Josh Allen has such low football IQ they risk ruining the team every time they are running with the ball.
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Post by hogmollies on Dec 1, 2021 0:21:43 GMT -5
People (not on this board) LAUGHED last year when I said we needed to seriously look at Justin Fields and bring in a legit backup for Daniel.
Why didn't we get a real backup???? His ego is that sensitive we can't have anyone in competition against him? Biggest mistake the Giants made this offseason.
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Post by thetruth on Dec 1, 2021 1:48:39 GMT -5
Love how Jones isn’t afraid to put his shoulder down and truck a MLB or DT. There is a reason why there is no Daniel Jones is soft threads. correct. Dan is not soft. Thats SB
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Post by thetruth on Dec 1, 2021 1:49:44 GMT -5
..... yes? Like learning to slide or go out of bounds? Like not ducking your head down for an extra yard every time. I watched Jones slide on most of his runs Sunday, I watched Hurts get hit all day Sunday... Why isn't it considered reckless when players like him, Mahomes and Jackson run all over the place? Jackson and Hurts certainly take hits a lot better. DJ should not be running the ball. So much for throwing Garrett out, i dont get why we called so many runs for a QB that was brutally concussed earlier this year
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Post by hogmollies on Dec 1, 2021 2:31:05 GMT -5
I watched Jones slide on most of his runs Sunday, I watched Hurts get hit all day Sunday... Why isn't it considered reckless when players like him, Mahomes and Jackson run all over the place? Jackson and Hurts certainly take hits a lot better. DJ should not be running the ball. So much for throwing Garrett out, i dont get why we called so many runs for a QB that was brutally concussed earlier this year At some point in the future, maybe people will realize the issue was never the coaching...
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Post by bluejayc on Dec 1, 2021 6:48:39 GMT -5
People (not on this board) LAUGHED last year when I said we needed to seriously look at Justin Fields and bring in a legit backup for Daniel. Why didn't we get a real backup???? His ego is that sensitive we can't have anyone in competition against him? Biggest mistake the Giants made this offseason. Your previous post just above this you criticize Jones for running then in this very next post you claim they shoulda drafted Fields as a backup QB…..a QB who is currently out with a rib injury from……RUNNING……🤣
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 1, 2021 6:52:54 GMT -5
..... yes? Like learning to slide or go out of bounds? Like not ducking your head down for an extra yard every time. I watched Jones slide on most of his runs Sunday, I watched Hurts get hit all day Sunday... Why isn't it considered reckless when players like him, Mahomes and Jackson run all over the place? They are reckless. They are also NFL MVPs so I think they have a longer leash. Jones isn't quite there yet. And "most" is wonderful until the time he doesn't hurts his neck or gets him concussed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 7:10:00 GMT -5
I watched Jones slide on most of his runs Sunday, I watched Hurts get hit all day Sunday... Why isn't it considered reckless when players like him, Mahomes and Jackson run all over the place? Jackson and Hurts certainly take hits a lot better.DJ should not be running the ball. So much for throwing Garrett out, i dont get why we called so many runs for a QB that was brutally concussed earlier this year That is the difference.. RGIII is the poster child of how not to get tackled why a player like Walter Payton and even Barry Sanders are examples of how to somehow lessen a blow when being hit.. Jones doesn't have that while I think Jackson does for sure but I still wouldn't like seeing my QB take some of those hits..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 7:13:08 GMT -5
Not more than his ignorant trolling comments. He defended Dave Gettleman until it was almost guaranteed he wouldn’t be coming back, that says it all. No offense...but as a poster....you couldn't carry Mike's jockstrap.
Again....No offense.
Couldn't disagree more with you on this one.. While they both do actually discuss football being wrong more then correct should factor into being a good poster out here..
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 1, 2021 7:15:57 GMT -5
Jackson and Hurts certainly take hits a lot better.DJ should not be running the ball. So much for throwing Garrett out, i dont get why we called so many runs for a QB that was brutally concussed earlier this year That is the difference.. RGIII is the poster child of how not to get tackled why a player like Walter Payton and even Barry Sanders are examples of how to somehow lessen a blow when being hit.. Jones doesn't have that while I think Jackson does for sure but I still wouldn't like seeing my QB take some of those hits.. Nice post. I have no problem with Jones running…theoretically. If he doesn’t have the skill set to protect himself, or worse, actively puts himself in needlessly dangerous positions, then it’s not a great idea.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 7:16:48 GMT -5
People (not on this board) LAUGHED last year when I said we needed to seriously look at Justin Fields and bring in a legit backup for Daniel. Why didn't we get a real backup???? His ego is that sensitive we can't have anyone in competition against him? Biggest mistake the Giants made this offseason. I think it would have been very stupid of the Giants to spend that 1st rounder on Fields making one of them a back up. I guess I would've laugh at that out here.. We will see if Fields becomes a great player and as of now with limited film there are two other players that would've been much better choices.. As for biggest mistakes this past off season that award goes to drafting no olinemen so I'm surprised anyone would disagree with that..
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Post by TEM on Dec 1, 2021 7:20:19 GMT -5
Take this was an extraordinarily small grain of salt BUT..... /photo/1 I have to ask this question. If this guy's son is friends with Mara's son, sounds like another YA Tittle BS-er to me. But that is me. Wouldn't this guy know that John only has one son? If your son is friends with the only son of John Mara . You would think you know that easily discovered detail and not use the word "Sons".
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