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Post by BlueReign on Dec 1, 2021 7:22:21 GMT -5
I watched Jones slide on most of his runs Sunday, I watched Hurts get hit all day Sunday... Why isn't it considered reckless when players like him, Mahomes and Jackson run all over the place? Jackson and Hurts certainly take hits a lot better. DJ should not be running the ball. So much for throwing Garrett out, i dont get why we called so many runs for a QB that was brutally concussed earlier this year Agreed, he should run when he has to. Not a fan of the designed runs for him (or any QB for that matter).
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Post by OrangeGiant on Dec 1, 2021 7:23:07 GMT -5
Take this was an extraordinarily small grain of salt BUT..... /photo/1 I have to ask this question. If this guy's son is friends with Mara's son, sounds like another YA Tittle BS-er to me. But that is me. Wouldn't this guy know that John only has one son? If your son is friends with the only son of John Mara . You would think you know that easily discovered detail and not use the word "Sons" Unless he knows something about Mara's "private life" that we don't!
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Post by TEM on Dec 1, 2021 7:30:43 GMT -5
I have to ask this question. If this guy's son is friends with Mara's son, sounds like another YA Tittle BS-er to me. But that is me. Wouldn't this guy know that John only has one son? If your son is friends with the only son of John Mara . You would think you know that easily discovered detail and not use the word "Sons" Unless he knows something about Mara's "private life" that we don't! He has proved that to you in what way? This statement can be made also; A "flat either knows something about the planet" we don't! It does not make it anymore factual?
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Post by TEM on Dec 1, 2021 8:01:21 GMT -5
People (not on this board) LAUGHED last year when I said we needed to seriously look at Justin Fields and bring in a legit backup for Daniel. Why didn't we get a real backup???? His ego is that sensitive we can't have anyone in competition against him? Biggest mistake the Giants made this offseason. I think it would have been very stupid of the Giants to spend that 1st rounder on Fields making one of them a back up. I guess I would've laugh at that out here.. We will see if Fields becomes a great player and as of now with limited film there are two other players that would've been much better choices.. As for biggest mistakes this past off season that award goes to drafting no olinemen so I'm surprised anyone would disagree with that.. You and I were a few of the board members making that point about building the line in this past draft. I found it odd we singed Golladay, Ross and took a WR at 20 (don't get me wrong I think Toney is going to be a good player). But Christian Darrisaw was there @ 20. We could have had our LT and RT locked up and still had 3 picks in the top 50 this year. Edge, NT and a LG or RG.
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Post by wtfjjk on Dec 1, 2021 8:16:15 GMT -5
Jackson and Hurts certainly take hits a lot better. DJ should not be running the ball. So much for throwing Garrett out, i dont get why we called so many runs for a QB that was brutally concussed earlier this year Agreed, he should run when he has to. Not a fan of the designed runs for him (or any QB for that matter). The thing is, the offense is much more dynamic with those designed runs. He's almost a star when he has that in his game. Without it, he's less than mediocre. I agree though, that makes for a very short career but I'd rather ride that than have mediocrity.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 8:16:22 GMT -5
I think it would have been very stupid of the Giants to spend that 1st rounder on Fields making one of them a back up. I guess I would've laugh at that out here.. We will see if Fields becomes a great player and as of now with limited film there are two other players that would've been much better choices.. As for biggest mistakes this past off season that award goes to drafting no olinemen so I'm surprised anyone would disagree with that.. You and I were a few of the board members making that point about building the line in this past draft. I found it odd we singed Golladay, Ross and took a WR at 20 (don't get me wrong I think Toney is going to be a good player). But Christian Darrisaw was there @ 20. We could have had our LT and RT locked up and still had 3 picks in the top 50 this year. Edge, NT and a LG or RG. I was very surprised they went WR in the 1st and while he might be very exciting a player actually needs to be on the field for that to occur!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 8:18:31 GMT -5
Agreed, he should run when he has to. Not a fan of the designed runs for him (or any QB for that matter). The thing is, the offense is much more dynamic with those designed runs. He's almost a star when he has that in his game. Without it, he's less than mediocre. I agree though, that makes for a very short career but I'd rather ride that than have mediocrity. The key is to have other players able to make the offense more dynamic while allowing the QB to be productive when the play breaks down and they run. This offense is just plain bad so using this skill set is one of their only good plays unfortunately..
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Post by OrangeGiant on Dec 1, 2021 8:24:33 GMT -5
Unless he knows something about Mara's "private life" that we don't! He has proved that to you in what way? This statement can be made also; A "flat either knows something about the planet" we don't! It does not make it anymore factual? Lol I was joking....
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 1, 2021 8:26:47 GMT -5
he’s day to day . . . no he’s out . . . out maybe for the season . . . he might not be out . . . might practice today
These are the media clowns some view as credible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 8:45:20 GMT -5
he’s day to day . . . no he’s out . . . out maybe for the season . . . he might not be out . . . might practice today These are the media clowns some view as credible. It's starting to seem like this place is for just making up some unwanted future and then complain about it..
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Post by mendy on Dec 1, 2021 9:02:34 GMT -5
Take this was an extraordinarily small grain of salt BUT..... /photo/1 Just so I understand this, you honestly think that the Maras will confide in "their Carpenter/ a friend" with news of this nature? Seriously?
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 1, 2021 9:19:20 GMT -5
he’s day to day . . . no he’s out . . . out maybe for the season . . . he might not be out . . . might practice today These are the media clowns some view as credible. It's starting to seem like this place is for just making up some unwanted future and then complain about it.. No worries, come the offseason it’s about making up a wanted future and then praise it as if it happened.
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Post by vinnie on Dec 1, 2021 9:19:34 GMT -5
He’s a troll and doesn’t know football, you should do what I should have done a long time ago and just ignore him. Because he doesn't agree with you? C'mon now. Absolutely not, because of his ridiculous posts. Billy Price is a good center, not admitting DG is a bad GM until recently (if he even did), Hernandez is a food guard, Solder was a good signing…what Giants fan agrees with any of that? Add on the occasional ridiculous comments he makes just to annoy people, that’s what trolls do.
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Post by vinnie on Dec 1, 2021 9:21:59 GMT -5
Not more than his ignorant trolling comments. He defended Dave Gettleman until it was almost guaranteed he wouldn’t be coming back, that says it all. Vin, the weekend is over my man, sleep it off already. There will be plenty more holes to punch in the wall tomorrow. Maybe when the season is over or of they don’t hire Abrams as GM then I can sleep it off. Still waiting to see how bad Mara screws this up in the off season.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 1, 2021 9:49:23 GMT -5
Vin, the weekend is over my man, sleep it off already. There will be plenty more holes to punch in the wall tomorrow. Maybe when the season is over or of they don’t hire Abrams as GM then I can sleep it off. Still waiting to see how bad Mara screws this up in the off season. imo, there are two sides which have something in common. Both side want progress. A plan which makes football sense so the Giants can win more games. The great divide is the perception of what moves will prove to be more successful. This isn’t hindsight as one side praised the moves and the other couldn’t make sense of the moves. The record speaks to who was correct and i’m certain that side questioning the offseason moves would have loved to have been wrong. The side praising moves doesn’t appear willing to be accountable and is therefore considered less credible. Take ownership and own your position is my advice for a message board. In-person these relationships would have been severed. cheers
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Post by mendy on Dec 1, 2021 9:55:42 GMT -5
Just another notch on the "he's not the guy" ledger. I know we were all spoiled by Eli never missing a game, but his durability has become a real concern to me. A better O line and no Garrett calling called QB runs might help his durability.
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Post by McCherry on Dec 1, 2021 10:07:28 GMT -5
Because he doesn't agree with you? C'mon now. Absolutely not, because of his ridiculous posts. Billy Price is a good center, not admitting DG is a bad GM until recently (if he even did), Hernandez is a food guard, Solder was a good signing…what Giants fan agrees with any of that? Add on the occasional ridiculous comments he makes just to annoy people, that’s what trolls do. You’re funny vin, I've never actually said any of those things. Is Hernandez a food guard? He plays like one.
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Post by snyder55 on Dec 1, 2021 10:11:41 GMT -5
Jones needs to learn from Eli how to go into the fetal position to avoid the big hit, it might lengthen his career...
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Post by snyder55 on Dec 1, 2021 10:14:42 GMT -5
I bought in on DJ but thought it was too high of a pick, SB I was no in agreement but bought in on his talent would give the Giants a serious weapon to build an offense upon. I was wrong both times DJ is up & down not consistent enough and the last two games have proven to me he is not the QB to lead this team forward. SB just to many injuries and he cannot run inside he is better as a speciality back and in space too much of luxury for the price he'll want to be paid. I am with you time to move on with yet again another reset but I see no other option at this point. Maybe Judge survives. I hated the DJ pick from the get go but it’s ridiculous for anyone to assume that I (or anyone else who didn’t like the pick) wanted him to fail. There were even times where he got my hopes but the consistency isn’t there and I’m done hearing the excuses. Yeah, the O line sucks, but even when he does have time he falls into his same old habits too often. After the TB game, I decided I was done giving him second and 10th chances, I’ve had it with him. Unfortunately, I don’t see a QB in this draft worth chasing so we’re better off building the O line and D line and hope to draft a QB in 2 years when we’re hopefully more stable. sometimes a good QB can take a team on his back and make the necessary plays kind of like Joe Montana did with the 49ers but it seems Jones doesn't have close to that talent...
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Post by snyder55 on Dec 1, 2021 10:20:32 GMT -5
Vin, the weekend is over my man, sleep it off already. There will be plenty more holes to punch in the wall tomorrow. Maybe when the season is over or of they don’t hire Abrams as GM then I can sleep it off. Still waiting to see how bad Mara screws this up in the off season. if Mara makes Abrams the new GM then that will confirm the suspicions about where the problems lie with this team....
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Post by McCherry on Dec 1, 2021 10:47:49 GMT -5
Mike? A troll? That's foolish.
Not a troll because the intention there. Right, this is what you call trolling.
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Post by nygiantfanalways on Dec 1, 2021 10:50:07 GMT -5
Jones being out maybe a blessing in disguise. If Mike Glennon comes in and the offense looks a little better and scores some points. Then hopefully the front office and the coaches will realize the Daniel Jones experiment is finally over.
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Post by Dogecoin on Dec 1, 2021 10:51:25 GMT -5
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Post by thetruth on Dec 1, 2021 10:52:23 GMT -5
Not a troll because the intention there. Right, this is what you call trolling. You're not a troll Mike. But a DG homer, absolutely. I dont even think it needs to be said. However, you're far from the only one but maybe the last one on the boat.
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 1, 2021 11:05:53 GMT -5
Mike? A troll? That's foolish.
Not a troll because the intention is not there. But definitely foolish. Always has been. We aren't going to call people trolls here. i should have just deleted the comment, but I wanted to engage instead. Next time, those kinds of posts will just be deleted.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Dec 1, 2021 11:07:30 GMT -5
I do remember one famous quote from Francessa. He talked about how Eli was treated at the end of his road and how Eli had been Stellar and available, never missing games and such, the ultimate ironman. He said one day when he is gone you will appreciate and miss him and miss the fact that he gave you a chance every sunday simply by being available. Also that when you have a franchise QB like that and is available, boy oh boy when he leaves you are gonna be hurting and appreciating even more what it was to have had a guy like that and how long it might take to find the next ONE.
Now I did like Eli and appreciate every thing he did for us. He wasn't my perfect qb by any means but he gave us a chance. There were plenty of times when I wanted him to be more vocal and scream, yell at guys and hold them accountable for screwing up consistently sometimes. There were times when he ran and fumbled untouched , ect that I wanted to slap him lol, but overall no complaints about Eli. We can only hope Jones is a 1/4 of what Eli was!!!
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Post by robl on Dec 1, 2021 11:08:21 GMT -5
So Jones has gone from out for the season to practicing today. I want a new carpenter.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Dec 1, 2021 11:10:06 GMT -5
So Jones has gone from out for the season to practicing today. I want a new carpenter. LMAO ikr, this puppet and clown circus show called the NYG just continues to go on and on smdh
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 1, 2021 11:26:30 GMT -5
I suppose it’s a bad thing that my reaction is Meh. I don’t feel we’re really in worse hands with Glennon. He may surprise us.
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 1, 2021 11:32:45 GMT -5
We can only do so much. I can speak for myself only. I don't like it. It's quite honestly a foolish claim. To me a troll is someone who makes claims they don't believe, in order to illicit an unpleasant response.
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