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Post by SG88 on Jan 18, 2022 16:48:21 GMT -5
First, yes a player can do whatever they want within reason From a business perspective the optics of wearing the Rams gear versus the team that you are under contract with - the NY Giants, it's just common sense. This is where his agent should be earning his money and advising his young client of this sensiblilty. I know in my company to be seen with competitive product is not going to be looked on favorably and in the long run it's just not worth it. My friend works for Pepsi. Employees can be reprimanded and even fired for purchasing a competitors product. Lmfao
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Post by presumablygunner on Jan 18, 2022 17:27:42 GMT -5
Kids grow up with favorite teams too.
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Post by giantsforce on Jan 18, 2022 17:33:55 GMT -5
Lol. I find it somewhat refreshing he doesn’t seem to give a damn what old fogey / bitter / over-zealous Giants fans might think. He should have worn a Cowboys scarf then. Yeah and then he will have the opportunity to be mocked by Shannon Sharp and have a meltdown with Skip Bayless! This was epic! fb.watch/aC_mUx-X7Q/
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Post by giantsforce on Jan 18, 2022 17:35:58 GMT -5
Lol. I find it somewhat refreshing he doesn’t seem to give a damn what old fogey / bitter / over-zealous Giants fans might think. You mean the ones that pay his salary by buying season tickets every yr? Yeah, he means those fools exactly!
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Post by GameTime on Jan 18, 2022 17:43:20 GMT -5
He is supporting his friend van Jefferson. I guess Toney is an NFL fan.
Looks bad but its not bad at all. Not even a little
The nose ring is way worse IMO
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Post by lasion2 on Jan 18, 2022 17:43:36 GMT -5
Nice that he supports his friends. Good for him.
But even if that wasn’t the case, he’s allowed to just be a rams fan, right? I missing something? World gone mad? I’m the one taking crazy pills?
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Post by mendy on Jan 18, 2022 17:54:40 GMT -5
First, yes a player can do whatever they want within reason From a business perspective the optics of wearing the Rams gear versus the team that you are under contract with - the NY Giants, it's just common sense. This is where his agent should be earning his money and advising his young client of this sensiblilty. I know in my company to be seen with competitive product is not going to be looked on favorably and in the long run it's just not worth it. My friend works for Pepsi. Employees can be reprimanded and even fired for purchasing a competitors product. Coke, Budweiser all do the same thing.
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Post by gatorgreat92 on Jan 18, 2022 18:13:46 GMT -5
I'm a Gator grad and watched Toney develop over his 4 years in Gainesville. Figuring out Toney is simple. When provided structure he'll stay in his lane and thrive. When the leash is lengthened he obviously doesn't have the maturity or wherewithal to stay on track. This happened in Gainesville when Jim McElwain was the head coach. It was so bad that guys were going off campus to workout at the local gym because they didn't trust what the coaches were doing. Toney struggled mightily. Mullen came in and although he didn't last in Gainesville, he did provide structure and had a vision for the offense. Toney bought in, always played hard, and had an incredible year. Now this isn't to say the guy isn't at fault or hasn't made dumb mistakes, but this is something we probably wouldn't be talking about if there was a competent regime in charge. Under a better staff, I think Toney will "get it". He needs guidance, whether we like it or not and its irrelevant at this point if we think that's necessary in a first round pick. Hopefully the next staff provides the structure he needs.
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Post by Modog on Jan 18, 2022 18:32:30 GMT -5
Another waste of a 1st round pick from DG.
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Post by miss86 on Jan 18, 2022 18:53:29 GMT -5
My friend works for Pepsi. Employees can be reprimanded and even fired for purchasing a competitors product. Damn. That’s some Adolf Hitler shit right there. Not being able to drink Coke is unamerican. Yea, but I like Pepsi better.
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Post by miss86 on Jan 18, 2022 18:55:55 GMT -5
My friend works for Pepsi. Employees can be reprimanded and even fired for purchasing a competitors product. Coke, Budweiser all do the same thing. Yep.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 18, 2022 18:56:53 GMT -5
Lol. I find it somewhat refreshing he doesn’t seem to give a damn what old fogey / bitter / over-zealous Giants fans might think. I'd find it infinitely more refreshing if his play backed it up. Me too. I have nothing against the kid, or rap, or anything else he does. And I get obj was probably his hero. No problem. My problem is a first round wr being basically useless in his rookie year, with some of it on him, and acting like he's some kind of playa? His hero had a mad rookie season. He was basically MIA. That's my only problem with him.
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Post by Jomo on Jan 18, 2022 18:59:28 GMT -5
We've wasted one year of money on Toney with no return.
Only three more left......I will be here long after he's gone.
Here's to better picks going forward,
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Post by Jomo on Jan 18, 2022 19:00:38 GMT -5
I think Toney considered himself a star before he actually becomes one, if that happens.......oh it happens, usually with WR.
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Post by moecoastie on Jan 18, 2022 19:32:22 GMT -5
non-issue but I see some posters got triggered. LOL
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Post by lt56 on Jan 18, 2022 19:45:26 GMT -5
Umm... That is a MASK that was likely given to him at SoFi Stadium because it is required! Protocols at SoFi Stadium is EXTREMELY STRICT... So yeah...NO he doesn't have a damn Rams Ascot lol it is clearly a Rams Mask that he pulled down to take the picture. There Supporting his Friend Van Jefferson, they went to Florida together....
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 18, 2022 20:02:21 GMT -5
Maybe he is trying to get traded. Has anyone seen our offense? based on his contribution to the team this past season he might not have to try too hard...so far all he is to the team is a showoff.. I don't know man the game against the Cowboys after DJ went down he went crazy. He made Glennon look good enough for us to question DJ's production in this offense. Probably the best production from the WR receiver position this year. Next game he started off good and injured his ankle. If he is healthy, he is dangerous. We just need a way to get him the ball. Even the last game he was making people miss after the catch. I like him but he definitely vibes different than everyone else. I understand why he is so polarizing.
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Post by jerky on Jan 18, 2022 21:40:06 GMT -5
Umm... That is a MASK that was likely given to him at SoFi Stadium because it is required! Protocols at SoFi Stadium is EXTREMELY STRICT... So yeah...NO he doesn't have a damn Rams Ascot lol it is clearly a Rams Mask that he pulled down to take the picture. Their Supporting his Friend Van Jefferson, they went to Florida together.... Come on, don't be a reasonable person. Don't you know it's all a secret message that he hates the Giants and wants to be off the team? He didn't even bother learning the entire history of the Giants organization.
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Post by FBomb on Jan 18, 2022 21:50:09 GMT -5
This is nothing, of course. If we were winning and Toney was contributing to those wins, no one would give a fat baby's dick.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 18, 2022 22:06:39 GMT -5
This is nothing, of course. If we were winning and Toney was contributing to those wins, no one would give a fat baby's dick. Lol
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Post by PennState1 on Jan 18, 2022 22:16:48 GMT -5
As long as he played in every game next year and makes the kind of impact his fellow rookie WRs like Waddle, Chase, Amon-Ra and a bunch of others are making, I’m good
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 22:18:27 GMT -5
I'm a Gator grad and watched Toney develop over his 4 years in Gainesville. Figuring out Toney is simple. When provided structure he'll stay in his lane and thrive. When the leash is lengthened he obviously doesn't have the maturity or wherewithal to stay on track. This happened in Gainesville when Jim McElwain was the head coach. It was so bad that guys were going off campus to workout at the local gym because they didn't trust what the coaches were doing. Toney struggled mightily. Mullen came in and although he didn't last in Gainesville, he did provide structure and had a vision for the offense. Toney bought in, always played hard, and had an incredible year. Now this isn't to say the guy isn't at fault or hasn't made dumb mistakes, but this is something we probably wouldn't be talking about if there was a competent regime in charge. Under a better staff, I think Toney will "get it". He needs guidance, whether we like it or not and its irrelevant at this point if we think that's necessary in a first round pick. Hopefully the next staff provides the structure he needs. Ok…I get this…but why can’t these kids take what they learned and retain it? Improve themselves. APPLY THEMSELVES! Why do they always need to be “PUSHED?” Why must they be coddled? Need someone to provide structure….damn grownass man! Professional athlete needs to be pushed. I think it’s pathetic and an excuse for poor work ethic and slack behavior. Are you going to tell me that these guys can’t discipline themselves? What a damn cop out.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 18, 2022 22:53:43 GMT -5
lmao lol. On a side note, did you guy see Odell last night. Looked damn good to me. I did go to sleep unsually early last night though and after it was 14-0. I saw he only finished with 4 for like 54 and that td but I still think he can be a no. 1
He did look good from what I saw. Looked like his old self. Still playing with that fire.
I'm happy for him. Even though his stats aren't terrific, he played well, and must feel like he got that monkey off his back to some degree.
I'm guessing his preparation for yesterday's game was much improved compared to his playoff last appearance.
True and as Shannon has been telling skip all year long the thing is Cooper kupp is going to get the targets he had a monster year and so Odell came in and kupp was the man so yeah and I Odell is not that the number one Target and that's debatable rather as to whether he should be I think he should but I mean kupp is a is a bad boy 2.
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Post by jerky on Jan 19, 2022 0:05:08 GMT -5
I'm a Gator grad and watched Toney develop over his 4 years in Gainesville. Figuring out Toney is simple. When provided structure he'll stay in his lane and thrive. When the leash is lengthened he obviously doesn't have the maturity or wherewithal to stay on track. This happened in Gainesville when Jim McElwain was the head coach. It was so bad that guys were going off campus to workout at the local gym because they didn't trust what the coaches were doing. Toney struggled mightily. Mullen came in and although he didn't last in Gainesville, he did provide structure and had a vision for the offense. Toney bought in, always played hard, and had an incredible year. Now this isn't to say the guy isn't at fault or hasn't made dumb mistakes, but this is something we probably wouldn't be talking about if there was a competent regime in charge. Under a better staff, I think Toney will "get it". He needs guidance, whether we like it or not and its irrelevant at this point if we think that's necessary in a first round pick. Hopefully the next staff provides the structure he needs. Ok…I get this…but why can’t these kids take what they learned and retain it? Improve themselves. APPLY THEMSELVES! Why do they always need to be “PUSHED?” Why must they be coddled? Need someone to provide structure….damn grownass man! Professional athlete needs to be pushed. I think it’s pathetic and an excuse for poor work ethic and slack behavior. Are you going to tell me that these guys can’t discipline themselves? What a damn cop out. You call them kids in one sentence, and a grownass man in the next. Which one are they? By the way, everyone is different. They have different personalities, think differently, have different motivations. That's why coaches are important. You remind me a lot of my dad, he can never see something from someone else's perspective, only his own. It is impossible to have conversations with him a lot of the time. I get it, that's how you live your life and you can't understand why other people can't. That's just the nature of humans.
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Post by southerner on Jan 19, 2022 5:11:06 GMT -5
Question of the day: If you're angered by this, is it some deep-seeded hatred for rap music? The beginning stages of the New Giant OBJ cancer. The new GM will hopefully purge this entire roster, with very few exceptions and start bringing in REAL football players, not overpaid frauds like Saquon, Kadarius, and the rest of the offense with Andrew Thomas being the one and only salvageable part on that side of the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 6:02:43 GMT -5
Ok…I get this…but why can’t these kids take what they learned and retain it? Improve themselves. APPLY THEMSELVES! Why do they always need to be “PUSHED?” Why must they be coddled? Need someone to provide structure….damn grownass man! Professional athlete needs to be pushed. I think it’s pathetic and an excuse for poor work ethic and slack behavior. Are you going to tell me that these guys can’t discipline themselves? What a damn cop out. You call them kids in one sentence, and a grownass man in the next. Which one are they? By the way, everyone is different. They have different personalities, think differently, have different motivations. That's why coaches are important. You remind me a lot of my dad, he can never see something from someone else's perspective, only his own. It is impossible to have conversations with him a lot of the time. I get it, that's how you live your life and you can't understand why other people can't. That's just the nature of humans. Well…responsibility and accountability are a huge part of life.
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Post by FBomb on Jan 19, 2022 9:36:49 GMT -5
Question of the day: If you're angered by this, is it some deep-seeded hatred for rap music? The beginning stages of the New Giant OBJ cancer. The new GM will hopefully purge this entire roster, with very few exceptions and start bringing in REAL football players, not overpaid frauds like Saquon, Kadarius, and the rest of the offense with Andrew Thomas being the one and only salvageable part on that side of the ball. Man, nothing gives you greater pleasure than to hate. You're a ridiculous poster.
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Post by scoostraw on Jan 19, 2022 9:37:05 GMT -5
Talented kid.
It was probably a mistake to draft him.
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Post by FBomb on Jan 19, 2022 9:51:54 GMT -5
Talented kid. It was probably a mistake to draft him. The injury history alone was enough of a red flag for MOST GM's. Not Getty,though. The kid has done nothing wrong. He can't help his injury problems. It's a tough sport. Hating the kid for it is ridiculous. As I said before, all if the other shit that people dump on him for wouldn't even matter to them if we were winning. It's just more fodder foe thier cannons.
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Post by jerky on Jan 19, 2022 9:52:57 GMT -5
You call them kids in one sentence, and a grownass man in the next. Which one are they? By the way, everyone is different. They have different personalities, think differently, have different motivations. That's why coaches are important. You remind me a lot of my dad, he can never see something from someone else's perspective, only his own. It is impossible to have conversations with him a lot of the time. I get it, that's how you live your life and you can't understand why other people can't. That's just the nature of humans. Well…responsibility and accountability are a huge part of life. Yes, I agree with that. But it's obvious if you look around the world that not everyone has the same values as you. It's just something that needs to be understood, you prioritize those things in your life, but others don't, that doesn't make them worse or better (although I guess you will disagree with this statement). He hasn't done anything egregious, I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. He was only a rookie, and he still has a lot of learning to do (again, not that he did anything wrong in this case).
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