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Post by SG88 on Jan 22, 2022 11:56:57 GMT -5
Even if you like Daniel Jones you can’t bet your future on him. The neck thing is a big deal. Plus his style of play… His neck is why you bring in Tyrod Taylor Well of course if you want to low key tank you bring back Fromm and take a guy in the 7th and if Jones's neck is shot we trade assets in December and have the inside track for Bryce Young For some reason, I still think that they are bringing in Mitch Trubisky (if Jones is not traded), especially if they hire Daboll. Trubisky is at least equal to Daniel Jones, would know the playbook, and is a virtual guarantee to start a few games knowing Jones injury history. |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 22, 2022 11:58:17 GMT -5
According to Chris Bisignana on Giants Insider podcast, he said he "knows for a fact" that Schoen said in is interview that he likes Daniel Jones. I trust Chris's sources maybe more than anyone. lol, ok. What’s he supposed to say in an interview? “I think the guy you drafted 6th overall is trash.” It’s funny that you, someone who constantly chides about press conference speak, would post this. I have no idea what this even means. |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 22, 2022 11:59:45 GMT -5
According to Chris Bisignana on Giants Insider podcast, he said he "knows for a fact" that Schoen said in is interview that he likes Daniel Jones. I trust Chris's sources maybe more than anyone. Even if you like Daniel Jones you can’t bet your future on him. The neck thing is a big deal. Plus his style of play… Liking him and betting your future on him are two different things. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 22, 2022 12:12:47 GMT -5
His neck is why you bring in Tyrod Taylor Well of course if you want to low key tank you bring back Fromm and take a guy in the 7th and if Jones's neck is shot we trade assets in December and have the inside track for Bryce Young For some reason, I still think that they are bringing in Mitch Trubisky (if Jones is not traded), especially if they hire Daboll. Trubisky is at least equal to Daniel Jones, would know the playbook, and is a virtual guarantee to start a few games knowing Jones injury history. What's his cost and what's our budget .. He definitely would be on our radar.. |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 22, 2022 12:29:23 GMT -5
For some reason, I still think that they are bringing in Mitch Trubisky (if Jones is not traded), especially if they hire Daboll. Trubisky is at least equal to Daniel Jones, would know the playbook, and is a virtual guarantee to start a few games knowing Jones injury history. What's his cost and what's our budget .. He definitely would be on our radar.. The Bills signed him to a one year $2.5 million deal last year. Only threw a few passes, he’s definitely an option. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 22, 2022 12:35:19 GMT -5
What's his cost and what's our budget .. He definitely would be on our radar.. The Bills signed him to a one year $2.5 million deal last year. Only threw a few passes, he’s definitely an option. OK I didn't know they got him for that cheap For some reason I still like Tyrod Taylor more for this role but this is also a good option |
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Post by SG88 on Jan 22, 2022 12:44:04 GMT -5
For some reason, I still think that they are bringing in Mitch Trubisky (if Jones is not traded), especially if they hire Daboll. Trubisky is at least equal to Daniel Jones, would know the playbook, and is a virtual guarantee to start a few games knowing Jones injury history. What's his cost and what's our budget .. He definitely would be on our radar.. I have no idea man. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 22, 2022 12:44:40 GMT -5
What's his cost and what's our budget .. He definitely would be on our radar.. I have no idea man. Cherry said last year they paid 2.5 million.... Do able |
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Post by SG88 on Jan 22, 2022 12:45:38 GMT -5
Cherry said last year they paid 2.5 million.... Do able Yeah, I just saw that. Very doable |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 22, 2022 12:55:20 GMT -5
Cherry said last year they paid 2.5 million.... Do able The more I think about Trubisky, the more sense it makes. Especially if Dabol is hired. |
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Post by Jomo on Jan 22, 2022 14:00:02 GMT -5
I have a feeling Jones will just be a stop gap next year. The Giants don't have much money to do anything else and with a draft that doesn't bode well for QB's I think DJ plays one more season under this new GM. After that all bets are off. So be it and if he plays lights out, we will have to pay him more for the next contract. For now, he's our starter and we direct all draft capital in the first 4 rounds to a needy roster. |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 22, 2022 14:21:24 GMT -5
What are Chris Bisignana's credentials and how come he's the only one that has this information? During a recent appearance on the Blue Rush podcast with Lawrence Tynes, Paul Schwartz of the New York Post reported that Schoen believes in Jones and that the 24-year-old will remain in East Rutherford next season. “I was told that Joe Schoen believes that Daniel Jones can be his quarterback. He didn’t go into (the GM interview) and say, ‘number one, Daniel Jones it out. We’re drafting a quarterback or we’re signing one.’ “What I was told is there was talk about the offensive line being really bad and about all the injuries to his skill players that compromised what Daniel Jones can do." giantswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/22/joe-schoen-believes-new-york-giants-can-win-with-daniel-jones/ |
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Post by thetruth on Jan 22, 2022 14:36:52 GMT -5
What are Chris Bisignana's credentials and how come he's the only one that has this information? During a recent appearance on the Blue Rush podcast with Lawrence Tynes, Paul Schwartz of the New York Post reported that Schoen believes in Jones and that the 24-year-old will remain in East Rutherford next season. “I was told that Joe Schoen believes that Daniel Jones can be his quarterback. He didn’t go into (the GM interview) and say, ‘number one, Daniel Jones it out. We’re drafting a quarterback or we’re signing one.’ “What I was told is there was talk about the offensive line being really bad and about all the injuries to his skill players that compromised what Daniel Jones can do." giantswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/22/joe-schoen-believes-new-york-giants-can-win-with-daniel-jones/Of course he "can" be his QB. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 22, 2022 14:50:16 GMT -5
Report: Giants' Joe Schoen believes Daniel Jones can be his QBDuring a recent appearance on the Blue Rush podcast with Lawrence Tynes, Paul Schwartz of the New York Post reported that Schoen believes in Jones and that the 24-year-old will remain in East Rutherford next season. “I was told that Joe Schoen believes that Daniel Jones can be his quarterback. He didn’t go into (the GM interview) and say, ‘number one, Daniel Jones it out. We’re drafting a quarterback or we’re signing one.’ “What I was told is there was talk about the offensive line being really bad and about all the injuries to his skill players that compromised what Daniel Jones can do." giantswire.usatoday.com/2022/01/22/joe-schoen-believes-new-york-giants-can-win-with-daniel-jones/ Of course he "can" be his QB. Like I said the same thing was said when Coughlin took over about Collins... He isn't going to publicly alienate his as of now starting qb on day one nor give away our plans if he indeed has already identified his guy with potential HCs. It also could be true We don't know nor will we till May |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 22, 2022 15:29:47 GMT -5
Of course he "can" be his QB. Like I said the same thing was said when Coughlin took over about Collins... He isn't going to publicly alienate his as of now starting qb on day one nor give away our plans if he indeed has already identified his guy with potential HCs. It also could be true We don't know nor will we till May The difference is this coach won't hold a premium pick in one of the most QB rich drafts in history. We'll know more after the HC and OC are hired and give their opinions. |
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Post by thetruth on Jan 22, 2022 15:53:19 GMT -5
Like I said the same thing was said when Coughlin took over about Collins... He isn't going to publicly alienate his as of now starting qb on day one nor give away our plans if he indeed has already identified his guy with potential HCs. It also could be true We don't know nor will we till May The difference is this coach won't hold a premium pick in one of the most QB rich drafts in history. We'll know more after the HC and OC are hired and give their opinions. I also wonder aobut DJ's health. Anyone have an update for that? |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 22, 2022 15:57:49 GMT -5
The difference is this coach won't hold a premium pick in one of the most QB rich drafts in history. We'll know more after the HC and OC are hired and give their opinions. I also wonder aobut DJ's health. Anyone have an update for that? I thought it was posted recently that he was expected to be ready by camp. |
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 22, 2022 15:58:50 GMT -5
It would be interesting if they bring Trubisky in on the cheap. Not as a long term but at least as a serviceable backup for when, not if, Jones goes down again. You have to believe that this is Jones' last chance to prove something. His contract is coming to a close and they have to determine if there is long term value in keeping him. .he also has a history with Tyrod Taylor (was there in 2017) I have always liked Tyrod Taylor and if he came in as a backup I wouldn't be surprised if he beat out Jones easily for the #1 spot... |
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 22, 2022 16:01:07 GMT -5
Not really. If he doesn't pick a QB it may mean he likes Jones for the future or it may mean he doesn't see a future QB available in the draft. Now if he picks a QB at 5, it doesn't mean he doesn't like Jones, it may just mean he doesn't think he's a good QB. I mean what is a new GM and coach supposed to say They come out and say Jones isn't the future its the biggest telegraph to every other team out there what our intentions are I distinctly remember Coughlin coming out more than a few times when hired saying we can win with Kerry Collins.....look what happened that makes sense to me.. |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 22, 2022 16:02:48 GMT -5
.he also has a history with Tyrod Taylor (was there in 2017) I have always liked Tyrod Taylor and if he came in as a backup I wouldn't be surprised if he beat out Jones easily for the #1 spot...I would. |
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 22, 2022 16:02:58 GMT -5
What are Chris Bisignana's credentials and how come he's the only one that has this information? He knows somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody 😏 his brother in law cleans the rest room in the stadium and heard it being discussed... |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Jan 22, 2022 16:08:34 GMT -5
According to Chris Bisignana on Giants Insider podcast, he said he "knows for a fact" that Schoen said in is interview that he likes Daniel Jones. I trust Chris's sources maybe more than anyone. Cue the conspiracy theories that he was only hired because he likes Jones. For me, if the GM that helped identify Josh Allen was moldable has a high opinion on Jones and knows he can bring in a coach to get the kid to take the next step - I'm on board with that. Maybe it was discussed that this upcoming year was a "transitional year" Jones was the best available option without having to set the team back anymore than Gentleman has. I surmise that the decision on Jones has already been made and if this is true there is a very strong possibility that we are going OL with both 1st Rd picks for 2 reasons 1. To give Jones the pest OL possible to prevent injury 2. To have an OL already in place for his replacement. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 22, 2022 16:43:23 GMT -5
The difference is this coach won't hold a premium pick in one of the most QB rich drafts in history. We'll know more after the HC and OC are hired and give their opinions. I also wonder aobut DJ's health. Anyone have an update for that? The ultimate pink spotted elephant in the room that honestly nobody will know till the preseason.. |
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Post by mj312 on Jan 23, 2022 22:04:53 GMT -5
Even if he likes Jones , there is no way he can love Jones ..he has the talent of a solid backup but that's about the extent . He is way too Injury prone and mistake ridden to be considered a reliable option as a starter .. we went from a QB who was never out of the game to a QB that's never in the game .. I am as concerned about Jones' injuries as anyone but you do realize that Phil Simms was also considered injury prone after a compound dislocation of the thumb on his throwing hand and an ACL. Both of course were season ending. He went on to be an iron man for us at QB. The prob is Jones just doesn’t show enough when he’s healthy ..he going to be due a big chunk of money soon and he’s just not reliable at all .. not saying the injuries are his fault , but If I’m a GM im not giving him a big contract .. he’s always hurt |
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Post by giants8493 on Jan 24, 2022 9:02:01 GMT -5
According to Chris Bisignana on Giants Insider podcast, he said he "knows for a fact" that Schoen said in is interview that he likes Daniel Jones. I trust Chris's sources maybe more than anyone. I like Jones too. We can make a fan club together |
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