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Post by allnygin on Jan 25, 2022 14:58:14 GMT -5
Still really not sold on any of them. I guess my two are Flores (defensive minded coach, struggled to get his offense going although, tua) Dabool and tbh, this guy wasn't good at all until Allen, Dan Quinn (defensive coach, flacons.. nuff said)
There's so much hype around some of these guys i'm not excited about anyone of them.. anyone else? or do you think one of these guys JUST HAS TO be the guy.
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Post by jerky on Jan 25, 2022 14:59:24 GMT -5
I'm with you. They all seem like a gamble to different degrees.
Although Dan Quinn is the only one that has good HC experience (Superbowl experience). Yeah he screwed it up, but that seems like something one learns from. I'm not saying I want him as the Giants HC though...
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Post by fifthavephil on Jan 25, 2022 15:01:30 GMT -5
Quinn and Flores have a track record, as HC.
Others, Are all Projections .
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 25, 2022 15:01:40 GMT -5
personally, I'm a fan of Leftwich, going back to his days at Grambling. I feel that he has displayed tremendous leadership over the years, and I like the work he's done with Arians. Learning from TB12 is not a bad thing either.
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Post by DJones19 on Jan 25, 2022 15:05:38 GMT -5
I cared more about the GM search.
I normally don't get excited about the head coach search..this year is not any different.
Coaches on the open market are usually there for a reason or just hot coordinators with no HC experience.
and even coaches successful one place often can't replicate the success...just want to see results after the hiring.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 25, 2022 15:12:37 GMT -5
Of course they are ALL gambles, since none have been a HC prior.
Its a glob of HC candidates, but Leftwich would be my #1 pick for right now. I want an ex QB who has a solid resume. we need someone to help fix the offense and train a QB. Daboll I guess would be the 2nd pick for me right now. I like that hipster from SF though, running that offense, Mike McDaniel. Seems like a smart guy that gets results. Moneyball ish. Interesting take. Very raw and high risk gamble there though.
Obviously Harbaugh and Payton would be my top 2 choices if available.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 25, 2022 15:15:19 GMT -5
Still really not sold on any of them. I guess my two are Flores (defensive minded coach, struggled to get his offense going although, tua) Dabool and tbh, this guy wasn't good at all until Allen, Dan Quinn (defensive coach, flacons.. nuff said) There's so much hype around some of these guys i'm not excited about anyone of them.. anyone else? or do you think one of these guys JUST HAS TO be the guy. it's almost a case that they might be the best that's available. and in that regard we almost may as well take a chance on the Eric Bienemy and the Leftwitche's of the world. I tell ya what and who's gonna be a Hotttt commdotity next year and heck maybe even this year if the 9ers make it to the SB and especially if they win it..... ( Demeco Ryans!!!! |
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 25, 2022 15:27:16 GMT -5
These head coaches are the consolation prize. Instead of steak knives, and Milli Vanilli‘s greatest hits. You get these guys..
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Post by mendy on Jan 25, 2022 15:32:41 GMT -5
personally, I'm a fan of Leftwich, going back to his days at Grambling. I feel that he has displayed tremendous leadership over the years, and I like the work he's done with Arians. Learning from TB12 is not a bad thing either. TB 12 seems to make many Coach's look good, not a knock on anyone. |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 25, 2022 15:47:40 GMT -5
Still really not sold on any of them. I guess my two are Flores (defensive minded coach, struggled to get his offense going although, tua) Dabool and tbh, this guy wasn't good at all until Allen, Dan Quinn (defensive coach, flacons.. nuff said) There's so much hype around some of these guys i'm not excited about anyone of them.. anyone else? or do you think one of these guys JUST HAS TO be the guy. who is available that you'd be "sold" on. I find interesting that I heard Tiki say its the HC as much as it is his staff. |
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Jan 25, 2022 15:50:04 GMT -5
You’re not wrong. Every coach has their downsides. Some though might be a better fit then others.
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Post by FBomb on Jan 25, 2022 16:08:40 GMT -5
Not sold on any of them....yet. Until we start winning games, I'm not sold on anybody.
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Post by Jomo on Jan 25, 2022 16:11:38 GMT -5
Most (probably all) here don't know enough to be excited about any of the candidates.
That is why we have a new GM who is paid to know or learn those things.
It is why hopefully our owner doesn't try to prove that he can pick a winning HC. He can't!
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Post by imgrate on Jan 25, 2022 16:24:42 GMT -5
Of course they are ALL gambles, since none have been a HC prior. Its a glob of HC candidates, but Leftwich would be my #1 pick for right now. I want an ex QB who has a solid resume. we need someone to help fix the offense and train a QB. Daboll I guess would be the 2nd pick for me right now. I like that hipster from SF though, running that offense, Mike McDaniel. Seems like a smart guy that gets results. Moneyball ish. Interesting take. Very raw and high risk gamble there though. Obviously Harbaugh and Payton would be my top 2 choices if available. Lol'd at hipster coach |
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Post by Eazy E on Jan 25, 2022 16:35:15 GMT -5
No to Dabol because of inexperience as a head coach. Yes to Sean Payton Jim Harbaugh but in the real world of choices. Dan Quinn, Doug Peterson, Brian Flores and longshot would be Jim Caldwell because anyone who could win games in detroit deserves a look.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 25, 2022 16:37:36 GMT -5
personally, I'm a fan of Leftwich, going back to his days at Grambling. I feel that he has displayed tremendous leadership over the years, and I like the work he's done with Arians. Learning from TB12 is not a bad thing either. TB 12 seems to make many Coach's look good, not a knock on anyone. That's true, but I'm talking more about absorbing how Brady goes about his preparation. That will carry a lot of weight. When your coach tells you, this is how Brady does it, hopefully the player is smart enough to try to emulate. Like or dislike Brady, he puts in the work, no denying that, any player can learn that trick, they are their own barrier to it. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 25, 2022 16:39:11 GMT -5
Still really not sold on any of them. I guess my two are Flores (defensive minded coach, struggled to get his offense going although, tua) Dabool and tbh, this guy wasn't good at all until Allen, Dan Quinn (defensive coach, flacons.. nuff said) There's so much hype around some of these guys i'm not excited about anyone of them.. anyone else? or do you think one of these guys JUST HAS TO be the guy. it's almost a case that they might be the best that's available. and in that regard we almost may as well take a chance on the Eric Bienemy and the Leftwitche's of the world. I tell ya what and who's gonna be a Hotttt commdotity next year and heck maybe even this year if the 9ers make it to the SB and especially if they win it..... ( Demeco Ryans!!!! Ryans has done a helluva job with the 49er's D towards the end of the season, and playoffs. He's opened a lot of peoples' eyes, and absolutely has earned the consideration. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 25, 2022 16:58:33 GMT -5
No to Dabol because of inexperience as a head coach. Yes to Sean Payton Jim Harbaugh but in the real world of choices. Dan Quinn, Doug Peterson, Brian Flores and longshot would be Jim Caldwell because anyone who could win games in detroit deserves a look. I question why has no other team reached out to interview Daboll ? The way he is is being touted, you think he is the second coming of Bill Walsh? Why is the only team interested in him the Giants? |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 25, 2022 17:00:12 GMT -5
Still really not sold on any of them. I guess my two are Flores (defensive minded coach, struggled to get his offense going although, tua) Dabool and tbh, this guy wasn't good at all until Allen, Dan Quinn (defensive coach, flacons.. nuff said) There's so much hype around some of these guys i'm not excited about anyone of them.. anyone else? or do you think one of these guys JUST HAS TO be the guy. With 9 openings now with the Saints they probably all get hired or maybe some others also |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 25, 2022 17:01:04 GMT -5
No to Dabol because of inexperience as a head coach. Yes to Sean Payton Jim Harbaugh but in the real world of choices. Dan Quinn, Doug Peterson, Brian Flores and longshot would be Jim Caldwell because anyone who could win games in detroit deserves a look. I question why has no other team reached out to interview Daboll ? The way he is is being touted, you think he is the second coming of Bill Walsh? Why is the only team interested in him the Giants? The Bears had him high on their list but with the hiring of Poles that might change. |
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 25, 2022 17:01:11 GMT -5
after Sundays game I think Daboll's value went off the chart...
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Post by Martin on Jan 25, 2022 17:04:47 GMT -5
I'm just plain confused!
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Post by TEM on Jan 25, 2022 17:05:18 GMT -5
I question why has no other team reached out to interview Daboll ? The way he is is being touted, you think he is the second coming of Bill Walsh? Why is the only team interested in him the Giants? The Bears ha dhim high on their list but with the hireing of Poles that might change. Being on a list and being interviewed are not the same. I get what you are saying. Him not being brought in by another team. To me that is a flag. |
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Post by bavarobeast on Jan 25, 2022 17:05:29 GMT -5
Guys like Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh seem very much above the tier of guys we’re considering. I know they aren’t exactly ready and available but those names pop up and it’s an eye-opener in the comparison difference of level of coaching between what we want and what we’ll have to settle for.
Pat Fitzgerald was mentioned in the Bears conversation at one time. Excellent football coach but he’s pretty attached to Northwestern. He can make chicken salad out of chicken shit though.
Leftwhich is intriguing to me.
I’m not expecting much of an upgrade with any of the coaching prospects under consideration.
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Post by TEM on Jan 25, 2022 17:07:56 GMT -5
after Sundays game I think Daboll's value went off the chart... I googled it. Why is he not getting interviews? If what you say is true. He should be getting calls for interviews, like phone ringing constantly calls. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 25, 2022 17:10:12 GMT -5
it's almost a case that they might be the best that's available. and in that regard we almost may as well take a chance on the Eric Bienemy and the Leftwitche's of the world. I tell ya what and who's gonna be a Hotttt commdotity next year and heck maybe even this year if the 9ers make it to the SB and especially if they win it..... ( Demeco Ryans!!!! Ryans has done a helluva job with the 49er's D towards the end of the season, and playoffs. He's opened a lot of peoples' eyes, and absolutely has earned the consideration. i got a good bit of cousins die hard 9ers fans. I remember him saying that i believe last year he didn't like their new DC after Silas left. This should be DR's second year at the helm and I can't wait to see him and ask him what he thinks of DR now.........  |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 25, 2022 17:10:51 GMT -5
The Bears ha dhim high on their list but with the hireing of Poles that might change. Being on a list and being interviewed are not the same. I get what you are saying. Him not being brought in by another team. To me that is a flag. Not sure who has talked to who so far. he is the only offensive coach the Giants have talked to so far. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 25, 2022 17:12:55 GMT -5
after Sundays game I think Daboll's value went off the chart... in a good way or bad? |
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Post by TEM on Jan 25, 2022 17:13:48 GMT -5
Being on a list and being interviewed are not the same. I get what you are saying. Him not being brought in by another team. To me that is a flag. Not sure who has talked to who so far. he is the only offensive coach the Giants have talked to so far. The reason I prefer an experienced HC. We have an inexperienced GM. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 25, 2022 17:14:44 GMT -5
Guys like Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh seem very much above the tier of guys we’re considering. I know they aren’t exactly ready and available but those names pop up and it’s an eye-opener in the comparison difference of level of coaching between what we want and what we’ll have to settle for. Pat Fitzgerald was mentioned in the Bears conversation at one time. Excellent football coach but he’s pretty attached to Northwestern. He can make chicken salad out of chicken shit though. Leftwhich is intriguing to me. I’m not expecting much of an upgrade with any of the coaching prospects under consideration. Where the upgrade needs to be is the staff OL coach right now Mike Munchak is sitting out there and several top end assistants Vic Fangio A decent head coach with a reall good staff can get a lot done. |
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