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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 26, 2022 16:20:06 GMT -5
On NFL channel Mara said the giants are not trading for Deshaun Watson.
So does this eliminate Flores as HC ? Why didn't Schoen announce this ? More to come
They're gonna build around Jones.
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 26, 2022 16:29:40 GMT -5
I guess this puts all the Deshaun Watsons discussions to rest, I like the kid very much but obviously too much baggage, what a shame...decisions made with your crotch seldom work out...
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 26, 2022 16:33:09 GMT -5
On NFL channel Mara said the giants are not trading for Deshaun Watson. So does this eliminate Flores as HC ? Why didn't Schoen announce this ? More to come They're gonna build around Jones. Maybe in the 1st interview Watson was taken odd the table and Flores would have say otherwise on the QB situation one way or another (ie not a Shoe horn situation like he had with Tua )
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 26, 2022 16:34:32 GMT -5
Not sure if it eliminates Flores yet, but if his attachment to Watson is what is speculated, then I don't think you bring him in anyways. That isn't very smart to attach yourself to a player like that, especially if he isn't living under your roof and you don't have 24 hour security on him.
Plus, if the attachment is true, it is going to be hard to find a job right now.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 26, 2022 16:36:42 GMT -5
Does that really surprise anyone?
Mara said the exact two things anyone with any sense already knew - we don't have the money and he has way too much legal baggage.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 26, 2022 16:37:43 GMT -5
Not sure if it eliminates Flores yet, but if his attachment to Watson is what is speculated, then I don't think you bring him in anyways. That isn't very smart to attach yourself to a player like that, especially if he isn't living under your roof and you don't have 24 hour security on him. Plus, if the attachment is true, it is going to be hard to find a job right now. How is Flores "attached" to Watson?
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 26, 2022 16:41:23 GMT -5
Not sure if it eliminates Flores yet, but if his attachment to Watson is what is speculated, then I don't think you bring him in anyways. That isn't very smart to attach yourself to a player like that, especially if he isn't living under your roof and you don't have 24 hour security on him. Plus, if the attachment is true, it is going to be hard to find a job right now. How is Flores "attached" to Watson? In the posts, and previous posts in other places on these boards, there has been speculation that Flores wants Watson. I believe one of the posts had a Tweet(not a parody Tweet) about this as well last week. The whole thing with Tua and Miami is speculated to have been Flores wanting to go after Watson. I'm hoping all of it is BS A small sampling of the speculation: thegiantsboard.proboards.com/thread/10482/deshaun-watsonthegiantsboard.proboards.com/thread/10479/ny-giants-contacted-brian-flores?q=watson
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Post by Roswell on Jan 26, 2022 16:42:36 GMT -5
Not sure if it eliminates Flores yet, but if his attachment to Watson is what is speculated, then I don't think you bring him in anyways. That isn't very smart to attach yourself to a player like that, especially if he isn't living under your roof and you don't have 24 hour security on him. Plus, if the attachment is true, it is going to be hard to find a job right now. How is Flores "attached" to Watson? You don't want to know.
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 26, 2022 16:44:43 GMT -5
On NFL channel Mara said the giants are not trading for Deshaun Watson. So does this eliminate Flores as HC ? Why didn't Schoen announce this ? More to come They're gonna build around Jones. My biggest problem with this news is the bold.
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 26, 2022 16:56:04 GMT -5
On NFL channel Mara said the giants are not trading for Deshaun Watson. So does this eliminate Flores as HC ? Why didn't Schoen announce this ? More to come They're gonna build around Jones. My biggest problem with this news is the bold. General managers job in his opening press conference is to basically introduce himself to the fan base. He’s not going to go over every nook and cranny. Mara distinguished this idea in one fell swoop. So his newly hired GM doesn’t have too.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 26, 2022 16:56:20 GMT -5
Silly speculation is what this place does best. That doesn't make it any more logical. Is Flores going to turn down the job if they don't get him Watson? They are already interviewing him. If Mara says they aren't trading for him and Flores is attached, why would either side even interview?
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 26, 2022 17:01:37 GMT -5
My biggest problem with this news is the bold. General managers job in his opening press conference is to basically introduce himself to the fan base. He’s not going to go over every nook and cranny. Mara distinguished this idea in one fell swoop. So his newly hired GM doesn’t have too. Mara should not be saying or doing anything related to football decisions or roster strategy. There's no legitimate debate for him to say anything.
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 26, 2022 17:05:04 GMT -5
General managers job in his opening press conference is to basically introduce himself to the fan base. He’s not going to go over every nook and cranny. Mara distinguished this idea in one fell swoop. So his newly hired GM doesn’t have too. Mara should not be saying or doing anything related to football decisions or roster strategy. There's no legitimate debate for him to say anything. Huge transactions will always have to get the approval of the owner. You’re nuts if you think that’s going to stop.
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 26, 2022 17:10:16 GMT -5
Mara should not be saying or doing anything related to football decisions or roster strategy. There's no legitimate debate for him to say anything. Huge transactions will always have to get the approval of the owner. You’re nuts if you think that’s going to stop. I agree with you but it is the wrong way to do things and honestly if this nonsense continues the real change that this organization needs will never fully come.
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Post by FBomb on Jan 26, 2022 17:10:36 GMT -5
On NFL channel Mara said the giants are not trading for Deshaun Watson. So does this eliminate Flores as HC ? Why didn't Schoen announce this ? More to come They're gonna build around Jones. Schoen met with those same reporters and said the same thing when he was asked. Either way, I wouldn't take anything they say at face value. There's no reason to announce your plans as far as players go.
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Post by FBomb on Jan 26, 2022 17:11:27 GMT -5
Huge transactions will always have to get the approval of the owner. You’re nuts if you think that’s going to stop. I agree with you but it is the wrong way to do things and honestly if this nonsense continues the real change that this organization needs will never fully come. He was asked. Then Joe was asked by the same reporters.
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 26, 2022 17:13:05 GMT -5
I agree with you but it is the wrong way to do things and honestly if this nonsense continues the real change that this organization needs will never fully come. He was asked. Then Joe was asked by the same reporters. How Mara should have answered: I will let Joe discuss that question.
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 26, 2022 17:15:27 GMT -5
Huge transactions will always have to get the approval of the owner. You’re nuts if you think that’s going to stop. I agree with you but it is the wrong way to do things and honestly if this nonsense continues the real change that this organization needs will never fully come. It’s the perks of being an owner. You can do whatever you want, and you don’t have to answer to anyone. Outside of winning the lotto, it’s the best job on the planet. You make money hand over fist, and your franchise never suffers due to the product on the field. John Mara can say the hell with changing things, and continue doing business as usual. And all we can do is give hollow threats, and stop wearing our colors outside our house.
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Post by FBomb on Jan 26, 2022 17:15:32 GMT -5
He was asked. Then Joe was asked by the same reporters. How Mara should have answered: I will let Joe discuss that question. Lol...he is the owner. He can answer however he likes. Joe said exactly the same thing when they asked him, so chances are they have already discussed it and are on the same page.
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Post by McCherry on Jan 26, 2022 17:29:18 GMT -5
Huge transactions will always have to get the approval of the owner. You’re nuts if you think that’s going to stop. I agree with you but it is the wrong way to do things and honestly if this nonsense continues the real change that this organization needs will never fully come. You're reading into it too much. Mara has already stated "final approval" is a 99% confirmation, with the only exceptions being character concerns.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 26, 2022 17:31:45 GMT -5
Giving up our slim cap space and great draft position to trade for a very talented QB with 22 different lawsuits against him?
In our current situation, it would be the dumbest move ever made by an incoming GM. If Schoen even asked about it, he should have been "schoen" the door.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 26, 2022 17:42:54 GMT -5
How Mara should have answered: I will let Joe discuss that question. Lol...he is the owner. He can answer however he likes. Joe said exactly the same thing when they asked him, so chances are they have already discussed it and are on the same page. I'm pretty sure, barring a serious disagreement, the owners will give him the tactical decision on his HC. The owners will still control strategic decisions. Mara basically said that in earlier statements Strategy is not allowing a trade for a QB involved in 22 lawsuits. Tactical is giving his GM final say over his HC. I hope this is the case.
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Post by cdngfan on Jan 26, 2022 18:42:08 GMT -5
On NFL channel Mara said the giants are not trading for Deshaun Watson. So does this eliminate Flores as HC ? Why didn't Schoen announce this ? More to come They're gonna build around Jones. Schoen met with those same reporters and said the same thing when he was asked. Either way, I wouldn't take anything they say at face value. There's no reason to announce your plans as far as players go. Damn fine point.
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Post by cdngfan on Jan 26, 2022 18:45:06 GMT -5
In other breathtaking news, Dua Lipa is uninterested in dating a 48 yr old paunchy Canadian with a flatulence problem………
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Post by TEM on Jan 26, 2022 18:47:28 GMT -5
I am OK with both of them not being Giants. We do not need happy ending or offensive staff version of Duck Duck Goose.
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Post by redeyejedi on Jan 26, 2022 19:03:27 GMT -5
duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by giantsforce on Jan 26, 2022 21:25:55 GMT -5
In other breathtaking news, Dua Lipa is uninterested in dating a 48 yr old paunchy Canadian with a flatulence problem……… As our " old friendly moderator" RoanokeFan used to ask: Link?
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Post by ocgiant on Jan 26, 2022 22:21:06 GMT -5
Simple answer to quiet everyone,
Thank God building throught the draft
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 27, 2022 9:31:53 GMT -5
Silly speculation is what this place does best. That doesn't make it any more logical. Is Flores going to turn down the job if they don't get him Watson? They are already interviewing him. If Mara says they aren't trading for him and Flores is attached, why would either side even interview? That is pretty much what I am saying. If this is true, is he really going to turn down the job and if he does then he wasn't the guy anyway.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 27, 2022 11:37:15 GMT -5
Flores is supposedly coming for an interview on Friday. Maybe he beats the snowstorm. So this is after Mara's statement he's not trading for Watson. So not having Watson apparently is not a deal breaker or a problem with anyone in the organization. The question has already been settled.
And Flores is coming in anyway. hope he has someone real good in mind to fix this offense. His expertise is on the other side of the ball.
But the thing with all these coaches are they are much more structured than Judge was. These people have been around and have had different degrees of success. If ever a team needs structure and direction it's Big Blue. Our offense needs everything and anything.
It's the only reason I'm leaning toward rooting for Dabol over any of the others. Just cause he's an offensive guy.
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