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Post by Blue Hulk on Jan 31, 2022 14:52:47 GMT -5
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Post by piddy283 on Jan 31, 2022 14:58:13 GMT -5
That's damn good news!
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 31, 2022 15:00:20 GMT -5
He had some good moments with a particularly bad team, but there were some very questionable stretches as well. We'll see what he does under new leadership. If the leadership is good, he may thrive.
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Post by bluejayc on Jan 31, 2022 15:05:07 GMT -5
Not a fan.....prefer a clean sweep.....pulling for Wink.
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 31, 2022 15:10:03 GMT -5
Not a fan.....prefer a clean sweep.....pulling for Wink. Only has a chance to be revisited if Graham gets the Vikings job which he is not a finalist for at the moment. Martindale has a huge red flag to go to dead last in defensive rank so drastically in one season. Injuries are no excuse. I fear opponents have figured him out. |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 31, 2022 15:12:33 GMT -5
Not a fan.....prefer a clean sweep.....pulling for Wink. I am pulling for whom ever Daboll thinks is best for this team |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jan 31, 2022 15:13:05 GMT -5
It's a done deal. Only way he isn't back is if he gets the Vikings job.
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Post by jimmieray on Jan 31, 2022 15:14:37 GMT -5
He had some good moments with a particularly bad team, but there were some very questionable stretches as well. We'll see what he does under new leadership. If the leadership is good, he may thrive. Seems we had some first halves of games where the defense looked to be doing it's job. We can say it was the totally inept offense that prevented them from keeping that going for an entire game. I'm all for giving Graham more time, but how much improvement can we actually expect from the offense next season - especially with little chance of acquiring any established FA vets? |
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Post by bluejayc on Jan 31, 2022 15:17:57 GMT -5
Not a fan.....prefer a clean sweep.....pulling for Wink. I am pulling for whom ever Daboll thinks is best for this team I hope that's the case but who knows if we're dealing with another forced coordinator on a head coach. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Jan 31, 2022 15:25:58 GMT -5
man ole man I hope it works out.........
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 31, 2022 15:30:09 GMT -5
I am happy with this decision. IMO Graham will get much more with this defense. A top edge rusher will improve this defense from the very first snap. More talented players should be added as well. His players didn't quit on him they played for him.
I think this is a good decision.
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Post by GameTime on Jan 31, 2022 15:36:22 GMT -5
I am pulling for whom ever Daboll thinks is best for this team I hope that's the case but who knows if we're dealing with another forced coordinator on a head coach. By whom Schoen? |
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Post by te88 on Jan 31, 2022 15:38:19 GMT -5
Not a fan.....prefer a clean sweep.....pulling for Wink. Only has a chance to be revisited if Graham gets the Vikings job which he is not a finalist for at the moment. Martindale has a huge red flag to go to dead last in defensive rank so drastically in one season. Injuries are no excuse. I fear opponents have figured him out. Martindale blitzes way too much. It gets figured out and the results aren’t pretty. |
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Post by te88 on Jan 31, 2022 15:40:11 GMT -5
I am pulling for whom ever Daboll thinks is best for this team I hope that's the case but who knows if we're dealing with another forced coordinator on a head coach. Nah I don’t think so. There aren’t a lot of options out there. Daboll is looking for some experience. Graham has proven to be malleable and it sounds like he coaches through a lot of nonsense and chaos with Joe Newbie this past year. I think Daboll looks at this like well here is one thing I don’t have to scramble to find somebody. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 31, 2022 15:40:19 GMT -5
Didn't Daboll and Graham coach together at New England?
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jan 31, 2022 15:41:01 GMT -5
This lets me know that they won't be retooling the Defense as much as the offense.
a 50/50 rebuild.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jan 31, 2022 15:41:34 GMT -5
Didn't Daboll and Graham coach together at New England? Read the article. He explains they have a good working relationship already |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 31, 2022 15:43:00 GMT -5
Didn't Daboll and Graham coach together at New England? Yes. He talked about it in his press conference. Said they have a great relationship already. |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 31, 2022 15:44:10 GMT -5
Lets not forget Graham was interviewed by Schoen for the HC job and was very impressed.
saying Graham is being forced on Daboll is unlikely
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 31, 2022 15:49:43 GMT -5
Only has a chance to be revisited if Graham gets the Vikings job which he is not a finalist for at the moment. Martindale has a huge red flag to go to dead last in defensive rank so drastically in one season. Injuries are no excuse. I fear opponents have figured him out. Martindale blitzes way too much. It gets figured out and the results aren’t pretty. I am with you on this. If Graham, against all likely odds, leaves to become the Vikings HC I'd prefer Fangio over Wink if he's interested. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 31, 2022 15:50:41 GMT -5
Lets not forget Graham was interviewed by Schoen for the HC job and was very impressed. saying Graham is being forced on Daboll is unlikely Exactly |
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 31, 2022 15:52:10 GMT -5
I hope that's the case but who knows if we're dealing with another forced coordinator on a head coach. Nah I don’t think so. There aren’t a lot of options out there. Daboll is looking for some experience. Graham has proven to be malleable and it sounds like he coaches through a lot of nonsense and chaos with Joe Newbie this past year. I think Daboll looks at this like well here is one thing I don’t have to scramble to find somebody. Exactly. I can perhaps see Daboll having some insight into some defensive assistants under Graham that Daboll might want Graham to explore. |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 31, 2022 16:11:50 GMT -5
I think this likely ensures the return of most of our starters on defense.
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Post by GameTime on Jan 31, 2022 16:31:35 GMT -5
I think this likely ensures the return of most of our starters on defense. the "talent to cap effect" ratio will determine which players stay and which go. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 31, 2022 16:36:01 GMT -5
It's a done deal. Only way he isn't back is if he gets the Vikings job. If he doesn't want to be back could be an option also. |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 31, 2022 16:37:38 GMT -5
I think this likely ensures the return of most of our starters on defense. the "talent to cap effect" ratio will determine which players stay and which go. Right, but who can they feasibly let go of? I think Bradberry and Ryan are the only starters who could possibly be released. But with Graham retained, that gets difficult because he loves both those players. I really could see the same lineup returning with a couple new LB's and maybe a NT. |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 31, 2022 16:41:52 GMT -5
the "talent to cap effect" ratio will determine which players stay and which go. Right, but who can they feasibly let go of? I think Bradberry and Ryan are the only starters who could possibly be released. But with Graham retained, that gets difficult because he loves both those players. I really could see the same lineup returning with a couple new LB's and maybe a NT. not my job to figure that out. all I know is they are in big time cap trouble. So they need to purge based how much they are needed and their effect on the cap. |
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Post by SG88 on Jan 31, 2022 16:49:33 GMT -5
Not a fan.....prefer a clean sweep.....pulling for Wink. Same. How is someone supposed to move on from an ex girlfriend with her pictures and underwear still in their room? |
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Post by TEM on Jan 31, 2022 16:56:19 GMT -5
I like this move . I do not want of another D tear down. I am not big fan of the 3-4. It has its flaws. At the same time, we have most of the pieces in place. A complete Defensive change would set us back even further.
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Post by lt56 on Jan 31, 2022 17:03:23 GMT -5
Nice! Of course best of luck to Graham on landing HC Gig but selfishly I do want him back
The Defense played hard for him and even when they had key injuries the Defense still played well up until they got tired from being on the field for so long. No Martinez and Peppers and guys liked Crowder and McKinney stepped in and had Career Years so the defense is going in the right Direction IMO.
Wink is a nice Alternative but I don't think he is a Upgrade over Graham No Way!
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