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Post by PennState1 on Feb 3, 2022 15:01:03 GMT -5
And, I thought Yul Brenner had died....wtf man? So far, our coaching staff is going to be saving money on hair products....Daboll, Johnson, Kafka...very economical Less prep time = Earlier arrival at work
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Post by jmike on Feb 3, 2022 15:06:22 GMT -5
Funny how fans know barely anything about any of these candidates, but that doesn't stop them from debating the merits of the hire. I don't know much about Kafka, but going the route of the young innovative guy seems much better than going the route of the old, stuck-in-his-ways guy (Garrett). You would have to expect this hire to bug people.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 3, 2022 15:12:23 GMT -5
Well, there you go. No one here knows what this guy will bring so dont let them make you think they do, positively or negatively. Just a note Played for NE Belichicks in 2013. So, another one from them to go with Daboll and Graham (Both were in NE in 2013 as well). All 3 of our main coaches are Belichick decedents of some sorts. Not to mention Judge was there in 2013 as well. Kafka has been with Reid for a while now we will see how he has evolved we aren't gonna know much but what we read.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 3, 2022 15:15:37 GMT -5
Funny how fans know barely anything about any of these candidates, but that doesn't stop them from debating the merits of the hire. I don't know much about Kafka, but going the route of the young innovative guy seems much better than going the route of the old, stuck-in-his-ways guy (Garrett). You would have to expect this hire to bug people. Why?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 3, 2022 15:16:14 GMT -5
In theory, I love the idea of fusing concepts from my two favorite offensive systems in the league. But after the last 5 years...not gonna say it's foolproof. Exactly it has to learned and executed at a high level before they are cooking with gas.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Feb 3, 2022 15:28:16 GMT -5
Won't matter who the OC is until we upgrade the personell. I wish him luck. How much did the Bengals upgrade their personnel in the two year they went from 4 wins to a superbowl? How long did it take Sean McVay to turn around Jeff Fisher's Rams team and get them to a Superbowl? two years.... honest questions. I'm telling you that our team is already an 8-9 win team if we just fix the oline and the coaching. You really need to analyze other teams rosters before deciding that your team sucks.....Personel is not everything and time and time again....new coaches have come in and done quick fixes.. Like how Gruden stole those superbowls from Toney Dungy
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Post by Blue Hulk on Feb 3, 2022 15:29:42 GMT -5
On a lighter note...We signed a Hitman
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Post by Tyrell on Feb 3, 2022 15:34:42 GMT -5
we'll see what happens, but ill bet with the right dudes all in place, even this kinda lackluster roster will look significantly better last season was among the worst coached teams ive ever seen in professional sports.
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Post by jmike on Feb 3, 2022 15:35:26 GMT -5
You would have to expect this hire to bug people. Why? They may worry about the disorienting nature of a Kafkaian offense.
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Post by jimmieray on Feb 3, 2022 15:36:49 GMT -5
All 3 of our main coaches are Belichick decedents of some sorts. Not to mention Judge was there in 2013 as well. Kafka isn't a Bellichick descendant in the slightest. This is actually a relief - I think Belichick implants self destruct chips in all his coaching staff.
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Post by jaymas on Feb 3, 2022 15:40:28 GMT -5
Kafka isn't a Bellichick descendant in the slightest. I guess you missed another important part... "of some sorts". He was on NEs roster in 2013, along with the other coaches I mentioned. Quit turning this into something its not. It's not of some sort though, that's my point, it's not anything. You're the one trying to find something controversial in it when there isn't anything there haha. A dude playing one year for BB in NE as a third-string QB doesn't make him anything related to BB. Is he a "descendant of some sort" of Gus Bradley and his assistants, of Lovie Smith and his assistants, of Mike Zimmer and his assistants, of Ken Whisenhunt and Mike Malarkey, and their assistants, and of Marvin Lewis and his assistants? Or no, just BB? The only tree he's a part of as it relates to coaching and what he's going to bring here is Andy Reid and the KC Chiefs because he's spent his entire coaching career there. If I'm still missing something, please tell me the point of your observation and why it was remotely relevant to the KC Chief's quarterbacks coach becoming our offensive coordinator? To point out he crossed paths with Brian Daboll and Pat Graham for 4 months when he was a backup QB? Like quite literally, the guy isn't even part of the coaching tree haha. Such a wild thing to point out as if it were insightful.
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Post by jmike on Feb 3, 2022 15:43:05 GMT -5
I guess you missed another important part... "of some sorts". He was on NEs roster in 2013, along with the other coaches I mentioned. Quit turning this into something its not. It's not of some sort though, that's my point, it's not anything. You're the one trying to find something controversial in it when there isn't anything there haha. A dude playing one year for BB in NE as a third-string QB doesn't make him anything related to BB. Is he a "descendant of some sort" of Gus Bradley and his assistants, of Lovie Smith and his assistants, of Mike Zimmer and his assistants, of Ken Whisenhunt and Mike Malarkey, and their assistants, and of Marvin Lewis and his assistants? Or no, just BB? The only tree he's a part of as it relates to coaching and what he's going to bring here is Andy Reid and the KC Chiefs because he's spent his entire coaching career there. If I'm still missing something, please tell me the point of your observation and why it was remotely relevant to the KC Chief's quarterbacks coach becoming our offensive coordinator? To point out he crossed paths with Brian Daboll and Pat Graham for 4 months when he was a backup QB? Like quite literally, the guy isn't even part of the coaching tree haha. Such a wild thing to point out as if it were insightful. Jay...chill...there isn't a point. He was pointing out an interesting tidbit that connects these people.
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Post by jaymas on Feb 3, 2022 15:50:45 GMT -5
It's not of some sort though, that's my point, it's not anything. You're the one trying to find something controversial in it when there isn't anything there haha. A dude playing one year for BB in NE as a third-string QB doesn't make him anything related to BB. Is he a "descendant of some sort" of Gus Bradley and his assistants, of Lovie Smith and his assistants, of Mike Zimmer and his assistants, of Ken Whisenhunt and Mike Malarkey, and their assistants, and of Marvin Lewis and his assistants? Or no, just BB? The only tree he's a part of as it relates to coaching and what he's going to bring here is Andy Reid and the KC Chiefs because he's spent his entire coaching career there. If I'm still missing something, please tell me the point of your observation and why it was remotely relevant to the KC Chief's quarterbacks coach becoming our offensive coordinator? To point out he crossed paths with Brian Daboll and Pat Graham for 4 months when he was a backup QB? Like quite literally, the guy isn't even part of the coaching tree haha. Such a wild thing to point out as if it were insightful. Jay...chill...there isn't a point. He was pointing out an interesting tidbit that connects these people. Oh, don't worry, I'm not riled up, sorry if it came off that way. I'd bet my house The Analyst was definitely not pointing out an interesting tidbit, ("all three of our coaches are Bill Bellichick descendants"), and if that was the case...odd way to word it don't ya think? Maybe something more like this: Fun fact: Mike Kafka was the third string QB for NE when Daboll and Patrick Graham were there. Neat!
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Post by jaymas on Feb 3, 2022 15:51:48 GMT -5
I'll say this though, I hope he's successful for his sake, because that is going to be an easy face to hate.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 3, 2022 15:54:30 GMT -5
They may worry about the disorienting nature of a Kafkaian offense. Damn, stepped right into that one ....
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 3, 2022 15:54:49 GMT -5
I guess you missed another important part... "of some sorts". He was on NEs roster in 2013, along with the other coaches I mentioned. Quit turning this into something its not. It's not of some sort though, that's my point, it's not anything. You're the one trying to find something controversial in it when there isn't anything there haha. A dude playing one year for BB in NE as a third-string QB doesn't make him anything related to BB. Is he a "descendant of some sort" of Gus Bradley and his assistants, of Lovie Smith and his assistants, of Mike Zimmer and his assistants, of Ken Whisenhunt and Mike Malarkey, and their assistants, and of Marvin Lewis and his assistants? Or no, just BB? The only tree he's a part of as it relates to coaching and what he's going to bring here is Andy Reid and the KC Chiefs because he's spent his entire coaching career there. If I'm still missing something, please tell me the point of your observation and why it was remotely relevant to the KC Chief's quarterbacks coach becoming our offensive coordinator? To point out he crossed paths with Brian Daboll and Pat Graham for 4 months when he was a backup QB? Like quite literally, the guy isn't even part of the coaching tree haha. Such a wild thing to point out as if it were insightful. Didn't he start his career with Eagles 2011 so his roots are more in WC or Spread depending on who was coaching the 2 years he was their Reid lleave the Eagles. He has been with Reid the last 5 years so his Roots now are highbred WCO.
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Feb 3, 2022 15:58:07 GMT -5
Well, there you go. No one here knows what this guy will bring so dont let them make you think they do, positively or negatively. Just a note Played for NE Belichicks in 2013. So, another one from them to go with Daboll and Graham (Both were in NE in 2013 as well). All 3 of our main coaches are Belichick decedents of some sorts. Not to mention Judge was there in 2013 as well. Sounds like that Kevin Bacon game .
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Post by TheAnalyst on Feb 3, 2022 15:59:57 GMT -5
Jay...chill...there isn't a point. He was pointing out an interesting tidbit that connects these people. Oh, don't worry, I'm not riled up, sorry if it came off that way. I'd bet my house The Analyst was definitely not pointing out an interesting tidbit, ("all three of our coaches are Bill Bellichick descendants"), and if that was the case...odd way to word it don't ya think? Maybe something more like this: Fun fact: Mike Kafka was the third string QB for NE when Daboll and Patrick Graham were there. Neat! When my kids act like this, I normally tell them to try to go on the potty. Usually helps.
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Feb 3, 2022 16:00:17 GMT -5
On a lighter note...We signed a Hitman Get this guy some fiber wire and rat poison and let him go lmao
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Post by jaymas on Feb 3, 2022 16:04:50 GMT -5
Oh, don't worry, I'm not riled up, sorry if it came off that way. I'd bet my house The Analyst was definitely not pointing out an interesting tidbit, ("all three of our coaches are Bill Bellichick descendants"), and if that was the case...odd way to word it don't ya think? Maybe something more like this: Fun fact: Mike Kafka was the third string QB for NE when Daboll and Patrick Graham were there. Neat! When my kids act like this, I normally tell them to try to go on the potty. Usually helps. Okay, that made me laugh. Well done.
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Post by jaymas on Feb 3, 2022 16:06:39 GMT -5
It's not of some sort though, that's my point, it's not anything. You're the one trying to find something controversial in it when there isn't anything there haha. A dude playing one year for BB in NE as a third-string QB doesn't make him anything related to BB. Is he a "descendant of some sort" of Gus Bradley and his assistants, of Lovie Smith and his assistants, of Mike Zimmer and his assistants, of Ken Whisenhunt and Mike Malarkey, and their assistants, and of Marvin Lewis and his assistants? Or no, just BB? The only tree he's a part of as it relates to coaching and what he's going to bring here is Andy Reid and the KC Chiefs because he's spent his entire coaching career there. If I'm still missing something, please tell me the point of your observation and why it was remotely relevant to the KC Chief's quarterbacks coach becoming our offensive coordinator? To point out he crossed paths with Brian Daboll and Pat Graham for 4 months when he was a backup QB? Like quite literally, the guy isn't even part of the coaching tree haha. Such a wild thing to point out as if it were insightful. Didn't he start his career with Eagles 2011 so his roots are more in WC or Spread depending on who was coaching the 2 years he was their Reid lleave the Eagles. He has been with Reid the last 5 years so his Roots now are highbred WCO. Yup, exactly.
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Post by fifthavephil on Feb 3, 2022 16:07:15 GMT -5
I remember him playing QB, at Northwestern .
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Post by GameTime on Feb 3, 2022 16:18:19 GMT -5
cool....hopefully he works out. Can't say they aren't trying to get better.
I lost all my optimism though.
The NYGs still suck big time until they dont.
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 3, 2022 16:20:33 GMT -5
Seems this offense will have a metamorphosis. if these coaching changes along with a new GM bring a sudden resurgence to the team and we become credible again the only thing I will wonder is why the hell did it take so long...
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 3, 2022 16:22:19 GMT -5
I guess the next shoe to drop in the NFL will be where Deshawn Watson will be playing next year..
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Post by jimmieray on Feb 3, 2022 16:33:23 GMT -5
cool....hopefully he works out. Can't say they aren't trying to get better. I lost all my optimism though. The NYGs still suck big time until they dont. I found you a new avatar:
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 3, 2022 16:41:54 GMT -5
Mike Kaftka in the side pocket.. I’ll give him by week 6 when fans turn on cueball. It took Garrett two games, and Kitchens five minutes. Utilize our strengths, and dictate to the defense. We used to be the bullies on the block, now we get punked weekly.
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 3, 2022 16:42:34 GMT -5
Oh, don't worry, I'm not riled up, sorry if it came off that way. I'd bet my house The Analyst was definitely not pointing out an interesting tidbit, ("all three of our coaches are Bill Bellichick descendants"), and if that was the case...odd way to word it don't ya think? Maybe something more like this: Fun fact: Mike Kafka was the third string QB for NE when Daboll and Patrick Graham were there. Neat! When my kids act like this, I normally tell them to try to go on the potty. Usually helps. that always worked for me too.
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Post by Martin on Feb 3, 2022 16:44:54 GMT -5
They need to earn my respect. They can hire who they like. Results!
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 3, 2022 16:45:25 GMT -5
Mike Kaftka in the side pocket.. I’ll give him by week 6 when fans turn on cueball. It took Garrett two games, and Kitchens five minutes. Utilize our strengths, and dictate to the defense. We used to be the bullies on the block, now we get punked weekly. you're right about that, this Giants team got too used to getting "swirlies" and learned to expect it..
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