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Post by TCHOF on Feb 4, 2022 22:24:02 GMT -5
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Post by Roswell on Feb 4, 2022 22:41:59 GMT -5
Next coach up.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 4, 2022 22:51:01 GMT -5
Strange because the Raiders run a strict 4/3 and really don't have the personal to make a quick adjustment.. Crosby is a bad fit..
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 4, 2022 23:00:55 GMT -5
Probably for the best. His best buddy got fired and he got turned down for the HC job. Awkward….
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Post by Morehead State on Feb 4, 2022 23:01:02 GMT -5
This is a lateral move, which means the Giants could have blocked his interview.
My guess is that he feels an allegiance with Brian Flores and asked to be allowed to move on. This is pretty hard pill if that's true.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2022 23:01:52 GMT -5
Who are some of the young DC talent out there besides any BB guys. They all seem to play to many games just like he did when he was Bill Parcells right hand guy with the Jets left them hanging when it was his time to take over for BP. And headed for New England.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 4, 2022 23:02:35 GMT -5
This is a lateral move, which means the Giants could have blocked his interview. My guess is that he feels an allegiance with Brian Flores and asked to be allowed to move on. This is pretty hard pill if that's true. An allegiance with Brian Flores who let him walk after one season?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2022 23:03:06 GMT -5
Probably for the best. His best buddy got fired and he got turned down for the HC job. Awkward…. Stapleton had a good point that being the players new him well if things start to get bad they might turn to him and not the head coach.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2022 23:08:33 GMT -5
This is a lateral move, which means the Giants could have blocked his interview. My guess is that he feels an allegiance with Brian Flores and asked to be allowed to move on. This is pretty hard pill if that's true. I think he was probably pretty comfortable with Josh McDaniels. I don't envision being assistant in Miami under flores who was firing coaches like shit through a goose was very comfortable. His base was gone here his best friend out and he didn't get the head coaching job, last I'm sure Josh got Marc Davis to throw the bag at him.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2022 23:09:41 GMT -5
This is a lateral move, which means the Giants could have blocked his interview. My guess is that he feels an allegiance with Brian Flores and asked to be allowed to move on. This is pretty hard pill if that's true. Right now it's only a guess luckily
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Post by ocgiant on Feb 4, 2022 23:24:34 GMT -5
I wish him the best of luck with the Raiders
Schoen and Daboll need to find a DC, welcome to the Giants boys
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Post by Morehead State on Feb 4, 2022 23:26:55 GMT -5
This is a lateral move, which means the Giants could have blocked his interview. My guess is that he feels an allegiance with Brian Flores and asked to be allowed to move on. This is pretty hard pill if that's true. I think he was probably pretty comfortable with Josh McDaniels. I don't envision being assistant in Miami under flores who was firing coaches like shit through a goose was very comfortable. His base was gone here his best friend out and he didn't get the head coaching job, last I'm sure Josh got Marc Davis to throw the bag at him. Wait wait here. The HC said our DC job was his if he didn't get a HC job. What the heck happened? It's a lateral move.
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Post by repeatchamps on Feb 4, 2022 23:29:43 GMT -5
I wish him the best of luck with the Raiders Schoen and Daboll need to find a DC, welcome to the Giants boys Should have called Fangio the minute they let Graham interview with the Raiders. Hopefully they did just that.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2022 23:38:06 GMT -5
I think he was probably pretty comfortable with Josh McDaniels. I don't envision being assistant in Miami under flores who was firing coaches like shit through a goose was very comfortable. His base was gone here his best friend out and he didn't get the head coaching job, last I'm sure Josh got Marc Davis to throw the bag at him. Wait wait here. The HC said our DC job was his if he didn't get a HC job. What the heck happened? It's a lateral move. What happened is most likely just like with Judge he had a good working relationship with McDaniels and being an ivy league guy when Davis probably gave him more $$$ with lower taxes graham more then likely said my best friend is gone and I'm getting more with another buddy of mine with less taxes they count for these rich folks you know. I'm out of here to Las Vegas.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2022 23:43:03 GMT -5
I think the staff is totally dependent on who Daboll has good connections with over the years hopefully he has some good guys who want to come along and help him out. We have to remember the Giants haven't announced the signing of the OC either it's not done till they are signed. Graham was hiring staff now he will be bringing them to Vegas with him.
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Post by bluejayc on Feb 4, 2022 23:52:59 GMT -5
I wish him nothing but the best….he did well here with limited resources…..I think the move makes sense for both parties.
Now let’s get Wink.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Feb 4, 2022 23:56:56 GMT -5
If he felt any way about the Flores accusations then better he left for himself and the team.
It was always going to be weird to keep a coordinator (want he also assistant HC?) from an old regime. The team is now truly moving on.
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Post by rickker20 on Feb 5, 2022 0:18:02 GMT -5
Good time to clean the house from leftovers from Judge. A fresh start on defense.
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Post by knixknation on Feb 5, 2022 0:46:59 GMT -5
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Post by nygfanstrick on Feb 5, 2022 0:52:04 GMT -5
Wink Martindale or Vic Fangio come on down!
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Post by TGTW92 on Feb 5, 2022 1:33:59 GMT -5
This is a lateral move, which means the Giants could have blocked his interview. My guess is that he feels an allegiance with Brian Flores and asked to be allowed to move on. This is pretty hard pill if that's true. Couldn't block him. Once he was given permission to interview with the first team it opened it up to any team that wanted an interview.
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 5, 2022 6:51:19 GMT -5
Good time to clean the house from leftovers from Judge. A fresh start on defense. Agreed. If you’re going to do a full sweep, don’t forget those tough to reach spots behind the refrigerator. I was under the impression finishing 4-13 meant the hell with everyone. I saw no rhyme or reason in retaining him.
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Post by Bigjeep on Feb 5, 2022 7:11:05 GMT -5
Out with the old, in with the new! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
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Post by Bigjeep on Feb 5, 2022 7:13:59 GMT -5
Good time to clean the house from leftovers from Judge. A fresh start on defense. Agreed. If you’re going to do a full sweep, don’t forget those tough to reach spots behind the refrigerator. I was under the impression finishing 4-13 meant the hell with everyone. I saw no rhyme or reason in retaining him. Our defense for some reason here, was way overrated! They never could stop a team when it COUNTED! No better than our offense!
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Post by grapenut on Feb 5, 2022 7:52:30 GMT -5
Good riddance to this guy and his "bend and break & give up points" defense that gave up tons of points in the last few minutes of halves. Now let's get a real defensive coordinator that wants to be here.
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Post by Bigjeep on Feb 5, 2022 8:00:25 GMT -5
Good riddance to this guy and his "bend and break & give up points" defense that gave up tons of points in the last few minutes of halves. Now let's get a real defensive coordinator that wants to be here. Keeping him would have been his first big mistake!
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Post by Jomo on Feb 5, 2022 8:08:39 GMT -5
This is a lateral move, which means the Giants could have blocked his interview. My guess is that he feels an allegiance with Brian Flores and asked to be allowed to move on. This is pretty hard pill if that's true. The Giants granted him permission to speak with the Steelers about a lateral, earlier this off season. The article in the Post today made it sound like a combination of Flores loyalty and the Giants not wanting to give permission to one team and not another were factors. Generally speaking, I wouldn't want anyone around who wants to be somewhere else. Let's try to find an upgrade, won't be easy but we should be shooting higher on everything we do.
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Post by GameTime on Feb 5, 2022 8:14:11 GMT -5
Strange because the Raiders run a strict 4/3 and really don't have the personal to make a quick adjustment.. Crosby is a bad fit.. HC addressed that they are subs 85% of the time anyway. 3-4 and 4-3 base is not what it used to be.
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Post by GameTime on Feb 5, 2022 8:17:59 GMT -5
I think he was probably pretty comfortable with Josh McDaniels. I don't envision being assistant in Miami under flores who was firing coaches like shit through a goose was very comfortable. His base was gone here his best friend out and he didn't get the head coaching job, last I'm sure Josh got Marc Davis to throw the bag at him. Wait wait here. The HC said our DC job was his if he didn't get a HC job. What the heck happened? It's a lateral move. position wise its a lateral move. Team wise its not lateral at all. The Raiders are in better shape than the NYGs. Its a better job I would think. Don't blame him at all for wanting to go. Daboll and Schoen said the job is his if he didnt get the HC job in Minn. Doesn't mean Graham wanted the NYG DC job. Also Graham was interviewed for the NYG HC job. Maybe that sets up a weird atmosphere.
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Feb 5, 2022 8:19:27 GMT -5
I wish him luck. I liked him but I’m the camp of if there a change of GM and HC you clean house across the board. I wonder who the dc will be
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