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Post by TEM on Sept 4, 2022 12:06:28 GMT -5
Does anyone know who will be calling the plays? Mike Kafka has done it the entire preseason. I would assume that is going to continue. I have not read anything to quantify that.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 4, 2022 12:50:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know who will be calling the plays? Mike Kafka has done it the entire preseason. I would assume that is going to continue. I have not read anything to quantify that. likewise, I haven't seen anything, but it would be pretty logical to assume he will continue, since he did it the entire preseason, not just a quarter or two here or there. We'll see in 7 days!!
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Post by cdngfan on Sept 4, 2022 13:52:39 GMT -5
Does anyone know who will be calling the plays? Mike Kafka has done it the entire preseason. I would assume that is going to continue. I have not read anything to quantify that. likewise, I haven't seen anything, but it would be pretty logical to assume he will continue, since he did it the entire preseason, not just a quarter or two here or there. We'll see in 7 days!! I trust Daboll on this, but I hope this is the case (Kafka calling). Being HC is a full time job and while it’s clearly not a black and white rule, in general I’d prefer a HC that is an HC.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 4, 2022 14:28:33 GMT -5
I think Kafka was in the booth upstairs too right? Even if Daboll calls the plays I bet Kafka stays up in the booth
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Post by Jomo on Sept 4, 2022 14:43:55 GMT -5
IMO, he should not be the first choice.
He's a first time HC, still early in the learning curve.
I don't think it's a good idea for him to be preoccupied in his comfort zone.
He needs to be working on the things that are new to him.
He's operating at a different altitude now and should be focused making the pieces work together.
He should make sure that the OC and play caller have a game plan that he agrees with. That's mid week stuff.
.....and of course he should weigh in here and there at critical moments.
However, if he's calling every play, he's not focused on HC stuff the way he should be.
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Post by miggs on Sept 4, 2022 15:07:27 GMT -5
Daboll does have an excellent track record.
Kafka seems vey smart. Did go to Northwestern U. Good school.,
The person who should call the us the smartest one.
Maybe they should a scrimmage against Wink defenses and see whose offense out-performed the other.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 5, 2022 11:43:35 GMT -5
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 5, 2022 11:45:10 GMT -5
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 5, 2022 12:31:20 GMT -5
I have no issue with this. I know my opinion is meaningless, but I like the idea of Kafka in the booth calling plays. I’m guessing Dabes will have input as well.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 5, 2022 12:44:06 GMT -5
I have no issue with this. While I know my opinion is meaningless, but I like the idea of Kafka in the booth calling plays. I’m guessing Dabes will have input as well. Dabes reads your posts before making important decisions. Your opinion matters my friend!
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 5, 2022 12:52:29 GMT -5
I have no issue with this. While I know my opinion is meaningless, but I like the idea of Kafka in the booth calling plays. I’m guessing Dabes will have input as well. Dabes reads your posts before making important decisions. Your opinion matters my friend! That’s correct! “Hey what did Rosie say to do on this play? Ok, do the opposite!”
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Post by GameTime on Sept 5, 2022 12:59:17 GMT -5
I made a comment a few times about Kafka being upstairs. I totally dig that.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 5, 2022 13:17:20 GMT -5
Dabes reads your posts before making important decisions. Your opinion matters my friend! That’s correct! “Hey what did Rosie say to do on this play? Ok, do the opposite!” LOL that reminds me of George Costanza in a Seinfeld episode.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 5, 2022 13:21:07 GMT -5
I have no issue with this. I know my opinion is meaningless, but I like the idea of Kafka in the booth calling plays. I’m guessing Dabes will have input as well. better view of what's going on to call better plays potentially?
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Post by GameTime on Sept 5, 2022 13:21:50 GMT -5
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Post by TEM on Sept 5, 2022 14:21:11 GMT -5
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Post by TEM on Sept 5, 2022 14:26:51 GMT -5
Just another example of how much clout The Giants Board has. A question is asked and a day later it is answered.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 5, 2022 14:41:56 GMT -5
That’s correct! “Hey what did Rosie say to do on this play? Ok, do the opposite!” LOL that reminds me of George Costanza in a Seinfeld episode. “Tuna on rye”
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Post by Zimonami on Sept 5, 2022 14:42:14 GMT -5
I just want who can do the best job. If that is Kafka that is totally cool. As already posted, Daboll will be overseeing 2 (or more) other aspects of this game, that he presumably has never delved in. Maybe he could do a better job calling the offense, but how well can we expect him to juggle all the rest at the same time. And despite us thinking all the time between plays is bogging things down, the decision making moves fast for these coaches... Yeah, I agree. He can't be contemplating the next offensive series when the D is out there. You can't spend a minute with your QB while he's off the field to talk about the upcoming possession. That's why you have an OC who you have worked closely with since he was hired to develop the offense you want, and which likely you both agree on. I can't see Kafka straying too far from what he and Daboll discussed before the game. That's all part of what takes the most time to get used to after some experience... just like the whole restn of the team... Olinemen with each other, DB's, and all of them playing together for real for the first time. Chemistry takes time to develop and hopefully Daboll and Kafka will have the same and keep Daboll concentrating on the game in front of him.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 5, 2022 14:47:58 GMT -5
I think Kafka was in the booth upstairs too right? Even if Daboll calls the plays I bet Kafka stays up in the booth b What advantage if any does the OC have being upstairs? Seeing the D and able to adjust better?
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 5, 2022 14:51:39 GMT -5
LOL that reminds me of George Costanza in a Seinfeld episode. “Tuna on rye” Tuna on toast? No chicken salad on rye untoasted!
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Post by miggs on Sept 5, 2022 14:52:55 GMT -5
Kafka will be in the booth. Sure both have agreed on plays to be called during the game.
They'll surely converse with each other during time-out and commercial breaks.
Will be interesting to see if both speak to each other at times before plays are called.
Bill Walsh called plays from the field level, conversed with coaches in the upper field box.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 5, 2022 14:53:33 GMT -5
I think Kafka was in the booth upstairs too right? Even if Daboll calls the plays I bet Kafka stays up in the booth b What advantage if any does the OC have being upstairs? Seeing the D and able to adjust better? I think that is it exactly. As a fan, one time I sat in the mezzanine level and it was like I could see the plays unfolding as they progressed. I can only imagine that perspective is better
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Post by GameTime on Sept 5, 2022 14:56:05 GMT -5
Kafka will be in the booth. Sure both have agreed on plays to be called during the game. Will be interesting to see if both speak to each other at times before plays are called. the HC is always in contact with his OC and DC. They absolutely will be talking to each other. I am sure they are setting up the game plan together so why wouldnt they agree on the play package for the game?
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Post by miggs on Sept 5, 2022 15:01:14 GMT -5
Kafka will be in the booth. Sure both have agreed on plays to be called during the game. Will be interesting to see if both speak to each other at times before plays are called. the HC is always in contact with his OC and DC. They absolutely will be talking to each other. I am sure they are setting up the game plan together so why wouldnt they agree on the play package for the game? They agree on the plays to be used in a game. They may even script the first 15 plays or so. But at certain times they may want to discuss a particular play.
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Post by miggs on Sept 5, 2022 15:05:53 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see how often Daboll speaks to Wink during a game.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 5, 2022 15:28:23 GMT -5
b What advantage if any does the OC have being upstairs? Seeing the D and able to adjust better? I think that is it exactly. As a fan, one time I sat in the mezzanine level and it was like I could see the plays unfolding as they progressed. I can only imagine that perspective is better oh gotcha
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Post by GameTime on Sept 5, 2022 15:45:00 GMT -5
I think that is it exactly. As a fan, one time I sat in the mezzanine level and it was like I could see the plays unfolding as they progressed. I can only imagine that perspective is better oh gotcha why do you think some OCs and or DCs sit up there? They are out of the commotion on the sidelines and the view of the field
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 5, 2022 15:47:04 GMT -5
why do you think some OCs and or DCs sit up there? They are out of the commotion on the sidelines and the view of the field Better view of the field and what the defense is doing real time
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Post by jimmieray on Sept 6, 2022 7:02:39 GMT -5
I have no issue with this. I know my opinion is meaningless, but I like the idea of Kafka in the booth calling plays. I’m guessing Dabes will have input as well. I suppose it's very different for Daboll to now be down on the field with the team come game time, rather than isolated up in the booth. Just one more thing to adjust to, as a new HC.
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