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Post by jimmieray on Aug 24, 2022 8:11:49 GMT -5
Watching what happened last year, and Colt McCoy's limitations the year before, along with DJ's propensity for injury (and the fact he's not a proven QB either) makes Tyrod Taylor very important. Can't even believe this option is being discussed. Davis Webb has never thrown a real pass in a real game. Like I said just throwing it out there..Center is a major need and are starting wrs are either hurt or underachieving..Yes I know it's a serious gamble It's an interesting proposal, especially since you bring up using that to get an experienced Center. I do think Taylor fits the scheme better, and would help keep the building of that if Jones goes down. Actual wins at that point would not be my concern, although now you have to consider draft position for acquiring the next QB.
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Post by DonnieYen on Aug 24, 2022 8:22:36 GMT -5
Davis Webb is going to be coaching football for a long time is my guess. I think he is the third string it's good to have depth! He played way better then a coach on Sunday
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Post by Rangers13 on Aug 24, 2022 8:26:50 GMT -5
Davis Webb is going to be coaching football for a long time is my guess. I think he is the third string it's good to have depth! He played way better then a coach on Sunday Big picture
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Post by jaymas on Aug 24, 2022 8:37:37 GMT -5
Watching what happened last year, and Colt McCoy's limitations the year before, along with DJ's propensity for injury (and the fact he's not a proven QB either) makes Tyrod Taylor very important. Can't even believe this option is being discussed. Davis Webb has never thrown a real pass in a real game. Colt McCoy wasn't our back up QB last year Long Neck Mike Glennon was Glennon looked like Crap even in pre season.. Yup, that was the first part of my sentence haha! I'm with you "Watching what happened last year" that's Glennongate.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 24, 2022 8:40:04 GMT -5
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Post by Tyrell on Aug 24, 2022 8:44:39 GMT -5
dude he played against the equivalent of the bengals cheerleaders. I think folks are forgetting the massive drop off in talent when you go through the starting then even the 2nd string lines.
Webb did well, Ill give him credit for a really good game, but it was against a high school team, really.
put in the bengals starting D, hes 2-17 with 2 ints, a fumble, and out with a concussion.....
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Post by ratbastich on Aug 24, 2022 8:46:53 GMT -5
TT is the better number 2 and Webb is the best number 3 on the roster. If we get to Webb depth then God help us.
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Post by Nite on Aug 24, 2022 9:16:45 GMT -5
TT is the better number 2 and Webb is the best number 3 on the roster. If we get to Webb depth then God help us. If that is the case you can stick a fork in the Giants season because they are done. And we (they) need to seriously look for Jones replacement. If we are down to TT even for a few weeks then the DJ's replacement search needs to start in earnest. I think we will know very soon what DJ's future will be with us.
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 24, 2022 9:30:27 GMT -5
Sure, let’s backup an injury waiting to happen quarterback with a player who has yet to throw an NFL pass in five years. That’s right, the brain farts around here think it’s a good idea to have an important position occupied by a practice squad lifer. Davis Webb sucks, credit to him for beating the pants off future used car salesmen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2022 11:09:39 GMT -5
TT is the better number 2 and Webb is the best number 3 on the roster. If we get to Webb depth then God help us. If that is the case you can stick a fork in the Giants season because they are done. And we (they) need to seriously look for Jones replacement. If we are down to TT even for a few weeks then the DJ's replacement search needs to start in earnest. I think we will know very soon what DJ's future will be with us. I think that the team is going to do well enough to miss out on a solid QB prospect in the draft so I wouldn't be surprised if they have this same QB set up next year.. Not sure what the Jones contract will look like but it would be smart of him to stay in the same system for 2nd year if this one has him showing promise..
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Post by Blue Hulk on Aug 24, 2022 11:19:27 GMT -5
Jake Fromm and Mike Glennon say he is.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Aug 24, 2022 11:21:56 GMT -5
dude he played against the equivalent of the bengals cheerleaders. I think folks are forgetting the massive drop off in talent when you go through the starting then even the 2nd string lines. Webb did well, Ill give him credit for a really good game, but it was against a high school team, really. put in the bengals starting D, hes 2-17 with 2 ints, a fumble, and out with a concussion..... Well, that drop off in talent occurs during the season with injuries. Bottom line is we could have used him last year and we used 4 different QB's...
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Post by mendy on Aug 24, 2022 12:43:13 GMT -5
I think our QB group is an up grade over last years
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Aug 24, 2022 20:34:25 GMT -5
I could see keeping Webb a a 3rd QB. I think TT is as good as any backup in football. For us he could start and maybe 10-12 other teams. We got him under contract for 2 years I'm in no rush to trade him.
If there's no QB in the draft next year and Jones isn't here TT can step in for a year as we build this team stronger. Because I have no idea what this team is gonna look like at the end of the season.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 25, 2022 6:19:14 GMT -5
I could see keeping Webb a a 3rd QB. I think TT is as good as any backup in football. For us he could start and maybe 10-12 other teams. We got him under contract for 2 years I'm in no rush to trade him. If there's no QB in the draft next year and Jones isn't here TT can step in for a year as we build this team stronger. Because I have no idea what this team is gonna look like at the end of the season. That is the idea behind TT for sure. Daboll and Schoen are rebuilding this team regardless of who the QB may or may not be next season. If you have a solid team most QBs will be productive
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Post by miggs on Aug 25, 2022 8:22:13 GMT -5
Giants paying Taylor far more money than Webb. Just hope the Giants play best back-up based on merit. Assume they will.
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Post by redeyejedi on Aug 26, 2022 20:47:21 GMT -5
Watching what happened last year, and Colt McCoy's limitations the year before, along with DJ's propensity for injury (and the fact he's not a proven QB either) makes Tyrod Taylor very important. Can't even believe this option is being discussed. Davis Webb has never thrown a real pass in a real game. Colt McCoy wasn't our back up QB last year Long Neck Mike Glennon was Glennon looked like Crap even in pre season.. The QB play last year was some of the worst I have ever seen
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Post by miggs on Aug 26, 2022 21:41:47 GMT -5
Webb was only something like 24-27 passing in a meaningless pre-season game. That's nothing. Really?
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Post by nick030567 on Aug 26, 2022 23:03:12 GMT -5
I think Webb could have a similar performance level to Colt McCoy.
He's accurate, usually quick trigger. Mobile. Was a good prospect, I thought. I would have LOVED if they started him against the raiders in 2017..
Anyway, I think it makes sense to keep three QBs.
Taylor is injury prone too, arguably more so than Jones? Webb has experience in that system. So I just think it's beneficial. Who knows how Webb would fare in regular season
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Post by TEM on Aug 27, 2022 5:53:22 GMT -5
Webb was only something like 24-27 passing in a meaningless pre-season game. That's nothing. Really? He was 8-16 against the Pats (50%) He was 22-27 against the Bengals (81%) A total for the preseason 30-43 (70%) That is not bad for the evaluation for a # 3.
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 27, 2022 6:26:55 GMT -5
Colt McCoy wasn't our back up QB last year Long Neck Mike Glennon was Glennon looked like Crap even in pre season.. The QB play last year was some of the worst I have ever seen Had Glennon simply thrown the ball into the dirt every play his QB rating would have been higher. Let that sink in...
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Post by miggs on Aug 27, 2022 6:44:47 GMT -5
All QBs are successful In the Giants offensive scheme, except some more than others.
Has less to do with where he's on the dept chart. He's looks like a good NFL QB. He's resurrecting his career.,Looking forward to seeing him play against the Jets.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 27, 2022 6:48:08 GMT -5
#2 QB is level of production, talent, capability is such a wide margin. Yeah sure Webb can be a #2. So can 50 other QBs that roam around the NFL.
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Post by Jomo on Aug 27, 2022 6:51:37 GMT -5
#2 QB is level of production, talent, capability is such a wide margin. Yeah sure Webb can be a #2. So can 50 other QBs that roam around the NFL. The whole point of a #2 is hoping he never plays. That would qualify you and me for the job.
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 27, 2022 6:58:02 GMT -5
I think given DJ's health history we need to have 3 QBs on the team, and Webb is fine as #3. Hopefully he never plays, but DJ benefits from his experience and developing coaches eye.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 27, 2022 7:23:04 GMT -5
#2 QB is level of production, talent, capability is such a wide margin. Yeah sure Webb can be a #2. So can 50 other QBs that roam around the NFL. The whole point of a #2 is hoping he never plays. That would qualify you and me for the job. your hired!!!!
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Post by Jomo on Aug 27, 2022 9:46:19 GMT -5
The whole point of a #2 is hoping he never plays. That would qualify you and me for the job. your hired!!!! I just pulled my hamstring getting out of this chair!
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Post by GameTime on Aug 27, 2022 10:22:43 GMT -5
I just pulled my hamstring getting out of this chair! perfect fit for this roster....lol
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 29, 2022 9:40:33 GMT -5
Webb was only something like 24-27 passing in a meaningless pre-season game. That's nothing. Really? He was 8-16 against the Pats (50%) He was 22-27 against the Bengals (81%) A total for the preseason 30-43 (70%) That is not bad for the evaluation for a # 3. 30-38 vs the Jets after Taylor got hurt. So that's 60-81 in the preseason, 74%. Appears to be at the worst a really good game manager in this system. Also, this is true:
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Post by jaymas on Aug 29, 2022 10:11:18 GMT -5
He was 8-16 against the Pats (50%) He was 22-27 against the Bengals (81%) A total for the preseason 30-43 (70%) That is not bad for the evaluation for a # 3. 30-38 vs the Jets after Taylor got hurt. So that's 60-81 in the preseason, 74%. Appears to be at the worst a really good game manager in this system. Also, this is true: He didn't go right to Buffalo though, he landed with the Jets first.
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