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Post by snyder55 on Aug 30, 2022 9:37:20 GMT -5
QB is a very controversial position to the fans, some see him as a slug and some see him as a savior....
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Post by GameTime on Aug 30, 2022 10:03:03 GMT -5
QB is a very controversial position to the fans, some see him as a slug and some see him as a savior.... 99% of the Jones fans who think he still has a decent chance to get it done do not think he is the savoir. I am sure there are a few but overall there is a lot of skepticism.....and there should be. |
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 30, 2022 14:56:09 GMT -5
QB is a very controversial position to the fans, some see him as a slug and some see him as a savior.... 99% of the Jones fans who think he still has a decent chance to get it done do not think he is the savoir. I am sure there are a few but overall there is a lot of skepticism.....and there should be. count me as a skeptic, I want Jones to succeed but I need to see more from him... |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 30, 2022 15:12:08 GMT -5
99% of the Jones fans who think he still has a decent chance to get it done do not think he is the savoir. I am sure there are a few but overall there is a lot of skepticism.....and there should be. count me as a skeptic, I want Jones to succeed but I need to see more from him... no doubt. we all do |
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Post by mendy on Aug 30, 2022 15:26:07 GMT -5
QB is a very controversial position to the fans, some see him as a slug and some see him as a savior.... Disagree and to add the Giants have been spoiled having Eli. |
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 30, 2022 15:40:07 GMT -5
QB is a very controversial position to the fans, some see him as a slug and some see him as a savior.... Disagree and to add the Giants have been spoiled having Eli. ??? |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 30, 2022 15:43:16 GMT -5
QB is a very controversial position to the fans, some see him as a slug and some see him as a savior.... Disagree and to add the Giants have been spoiled having Eli. Eli was controversial for much of his career. Even between 2007 and 2011 he was getting hammered by many. |
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 30, 2022 15:51:15 GMT -5
QB is a very controversial position to the fans, some see him as a slug and some see him as a savior.... 99% of the Jones fans who think he still has a decent chance to get it done do not think he is the savoir. I am sure there are a few but overall there is a lot of skepticism.....and there should be. do they see him as a slug? |
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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 30, 2022 18:08:24 GMT -5
I like Taylor, I think he's a good QB. I've got nothing against Webb, beat out Taylor if you can but Taylor is a winning QB in this league. I think that experience matters and I don't think the #2 QB job is in play.
There it is. Good call.
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Post by giantsalmon on Aug 30, 2022 18:58:54 GMT -5
I like Taylor, I think he's a good QB. I've got nothing against Webb, beat out Taylor if you can but Taylor is a winning QB in this league. I think that experience matters and I don't think the #2 QB job is in play.
There it is. Good call.
Someone pounded on the table for Tyrod as it was one of their(new regime) FA moves. Most here thought Tyrod was a good call as a back up. That being said sometimes I think that affects decisions. Not too much to worry about losing Webb from PS. He is a good fit w NYG because of his relationship with Daboll and his system. Not to mention the Bills were one of the top defenses in the league last year while having Webb run the opposing teams offense--so theres that. |
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Post by mendy on Aug 30, 2022 19:52:25 GMT -5
Disagree and to add the Giants have been spoiled having Eli. Eli was controversial for much of his career. Even between 2007 and 2011 he was getting hammered by many. For some of the younger fans Eli has been the only QB the Giants ever had. They aren't use to waiting for a QB to develop. |
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Post by mendy on Aug 30, 2022 19:55:06 GMT -5
QB is a very controversial position to the fans, some see him as a slug and some see him as a savior.... No one has said either. |
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Post by Jomo on Aug 30, 2022 19:56:19 GMT -5
count me as a skeptic, I want Jones to succeed but I need to see more from him... no doubt. we all do Same here, call me cautiously optimistic. He can make all the throws but there is more to it than that. Mostly I am hopeful because if he isn't the guy, we lose 2 years in our rebuilding and have to waste draft capital on another QB next year. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Aug 30, 2022 20:58:29 GMT -5
Appears he was cut
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Post by miggs on Aug 30, 2022 23:53:46 GMT -5
I believe that Schoen's to cut Webb is a very bad idea as things will quickly go south this if Jones is injured early on. As Taylor would be at best a .500 Giants starting QB. As Taylor is nowhere near as accurate a passer as Webb, and will turn the ball over far more than Webb has.
Hoping that Schoen wants Webb back and is banking on no other team claiming Webb with the season about to start.
There may be other unknown reasons that may result in Webb returning to the Giants.
In the next few days, I do expect Schoen to explain why he released Webb. I believe it's imperative for Webb to re-join the Giants. If he does not, and Jones is injured, then Schoen will have made ax very poor decision to release.,
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 31, 2022 0:45:09 GMT -5
I could see keeping Webb a a 3rd QB. I think TT is as good as any backup in football. For us he could start and maybe 10-12 other teams. We got him under contract for 2 years I'm in no rush to trade him. If there's no QB in the draft next year and Jones isn't here TT can step in for a year as we build this team stronger. Because I have no idea what this team is gonna look like at the end of the season. This team can't afford to carry 3 QBS. I hope Webb will end up on our practice squad. I bet he does. |
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Post by thetruth on Aug 31, 2022 3:55:01 GMT -5
Disagree and to add the Giants have been spoiled having Eli. Eli was controversial for much of his career. Even between 2007 and 2011 he was getting hammered by many. I think this is a stretch, it Eli was top 5 QB during this tenure, there may have been a few fans thinking otherwise but it was few and far between. Eli peaked in 2011, largely downhill from there, he even had seasons after the fact where he had decent statistics but his play fell off massively, Giants and their fans held on far too long, a big reason why we are where we are now |
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 31, 2022 8:29:12 GMT -5
QB is a very controversial position to the fans, some see him as a slug and some see him as a savior.... No one has said either. ?? |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 31, 2022 8:34:09 GMT -5
I believe that Schoen's to cut Webb is a very bad idea as things will quickly go south this if Jones is injured early on. As Taylor would be at best a .500 Giants starting QB. As Taylor is nowhere near as accurate a passer as Webb, and will turn the ball over far more than Webb has. Hoping that Schoen wants Webb back and is banking on no other team claiming Webb with the season about to start. There may be other unknown reasons that may result in Webb returning to the Giants. In the next few days, I do expect Schoen to explain why he released Webb. I believe it's imperative for Webb to re-join the Giants. If he does not, and Jones is injured, then Schoen will have made ax very poor decision to release., which regular season stats do have to even compare what Webb would do if he was starter or played with 1s ? Let me see the reg season interception ration between TT and Webb. You have none..... |
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Post by miggs on Aug 31, 2022 11:06:00 GMT -5
In pre-season games, Webb far better than Taylor by making better reads, having higher completion rate, and fewer interceptions.
If anything that's more indicative of Webb being a better QB than Taylor in regular season games. As both played in the same setting.
Seems dumb to me to predict that a player who played worse than another QB in the same offensive system is going to do better than the other QB in the regular season.
But you're entitled to your opinion.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 31, 2022 11:08:38 GMT -5
In pre-season games, Webb far better than Taylor by making better reads, having higher completion rate, and fewer interceptions. If anything that's more indicative of Webb being a better QB than Taylor in regular season games. As both played in the same setting. But you're entitled to your opinion. how about Webb actually playing in a regular season game where he threw a pass for comparison. |
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Post by miggs on Aug 31, 2022 11:52:17 GMT -5
The Giants offensive system almost insures he'll continue to complete passes as it gets receivers open and he has an accurate arm.,They system did that in pre-season and will do the same during the regular season.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 31, 2022 11:57:34 GMT -5
The Giants offensive system almost insures he'll continue to complete passes as it gets receivers open and he has an accurate arm.,They system did that in pre-season and will do the same during the regular season. you are forgetting one critical fact miggs.. HE IS NOT ON THE NEW YORK GIANTS ROSTER you do know that right? Or are you blocking that out? |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 31, 2022 12:10:22 GMT -5
Davis Webb is going to be coaching football for a long time is my guess. seems like a good fit. He mentioned to his girlfriend prior to the season that he love to get a chance to throw a pass in a regular season NFL game. He is giving that one more shot. |
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Post by jimmieray on Aug 31, 2022 12:21:44 GMT -5
Davis Webb is going to be coaching football for a long time is my guess. seems like a good fit. He mentioned to his girlfriend prior to the season that he love to get a chance to throw a pass in a regular season NFL game. He is giving that one more shot. Being an actual QB gets you more GF action that just being a coach. Coaches always claim they don't have time for that stuff, anyway... |
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Post by miggs on Sept 2, 2022 11:40:40 GMT -5
The Giants offensive system almost insures he'll continue to complete passes as it gets receivers open and he has an accurate arm. The system did that in pre-season and will do the same during the regular season.you are forgetting one critical fact miggs..
]HE IS NOT ON THE NEW YORK GIANTS ROSTER. you do know that right? Or are you blocking that out?
As you astutely pointed-out, practice players can be activated on even game day to play.
Daboll makes the call as to who plays on game day.
I'm saying that Webb should be on the roster and available to play if Jones is injured. Prefer Webb over Taylor, but's that's Daboll's call.
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