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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 11, 2022 19:43:51 GMT -5
My take is when Jones was asked he brought the game home he and Barkely. That said he needs to eliminate the silly turn overs down in RZ the fumble was not on him. I think Daboll holding him accountable might really do wonders for his game he's gonna get corrected the minute he comes off the field I like accoutability hopefully this offense grows as the season goes on. they trampled the #2 run defense last year today.
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Post by allnygin on Sept 11, 2022 19:45:17 GMT -5
Good stuff from Jones here. We have to give him his due when he does good things IMO, not shrug them off. to DJs credit that was a beautiful ball |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 11, 2022 19:45:48 GMT -5
He was very pedestrian. He was inconsistent and turned the ball over twice, which are the reasons why he didn't get his 5th year option picked up. Saying all that, I'm just happy that we won. Jones better step up though. Pick was on him the fumble he had 0 chance kind of wierd Daboll had an OL rotation with Azeudu and Bredeson. |
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Post by njsean on Sept 11, 2022 19:46:43 GMT -5
My thoughts he can be very good with a clean pocket for 2 seconds, but gets to be a scattered mess with pressure.
He will keep getting pressure.
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Post by jaymas on Sept 11, 2022 19:47:56 GMT -5
My thoughts he can be very good with a clean pocket for 2 seconds, but gets to be a scattered mess with pressure. He will keep getting pressure. He had 4 incomplete passes...how is that a scattered mess when pressured? Which he was, significantly, all game. I'm all for criticizing the guy when warranted...but that just doesn't make sense. |
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Post by Speedman on Sept 11, 2022 19:48:22 GMT -5
He was horrible. This team needs a new QB and we're set. Try opening your eyes the next time you watch a game. |
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Post by SG88 on Sept 11, 2022 19:48:41 GMT -5
Easily his worst play of the day. He was rightfully reamed for this one.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 11, 2022 19:49:17 GMT -5
He was horrible. This team needs a new QB and we're set. Try opening your eyes the next time you watch a game. Great first post by this guy huh .. |
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Post by njsean on Sept 11, 2022 19:50:11 GMT -5
My thoughts he can be very good with a clean pocket for 2 seconds, but gets to be a scattered mess with pressure. He will keep getting pressure. He had 4 incomplete passes...how is that a scattered mess when pressured? Which he was, significantly, all game. I'm all for criticizing the guy when warranted...but that just doesn't make sense. Because sacks don’t count as incompletions I guess. He doesn’t navigate well and create when the play breaks down. What’s a play where he did that today? I’d love to reconsider. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 19:50:24 GMT -5
He was horrible. This team needs a new QB and we're set.
So we don't mistake you for a troll; tell us why you think DJ was terrible today and what makes you think we are just a QB away.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 11, 2022 19:50:28 GMT -5
Good stuff from Jones here. We have to give him his due when he does good things IMO, not shrug them off. He only focuses on 1 wr. Sheppard must have started on the right side of the field before going all the way over to the left side of the field lol.  |
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Post by Delicreep on Sept 11, 2022 19:51:39 GMT -5
A good coaching moment. Nothing more or less It was good to see. That was a very, very bad decision by Jones and it was good to see Daboll say something in game...not sure why! |
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Post by Speedman on Sept 11, 2022 19:51:41 GMT -5
Try opening your eyes the next time you watch a game. Great first post by this guy huh .. Probably an Eagles fan. |
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Sept 11, 2022 19:52:24 GMT -5
I thought he was mediocre, sans the pass to Shep and ignoring the brutal INT.
That being said, he got it done with his feet and the coaches weaponized them when needed.
He also had a brutal day from his interior line.
He is not a franchise QB and I still think this is his last year here. But if he can get SOME protection, i think we'll be in many many games.
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Post by jaymas on Sept 11, 2022 19:52:37 GMT -5
He had 4 incomplete passes...how is that a scattered mess when pressured? Which he was, significantly, all game. I'm all for criticizing the guy when warranted...but that just doesn't make sense. Because sacks don’t count as incompletions I guess. If he was a complete mess under pressure he wouldn't have only 4 incomplete passes. You guys are stretching so hard...it's weird. Poor Joe Burrow today...his first half that's what being overwhelmed by pressure looks like. And you know what, he's still an elite QB and better than Daniel Jones and many others. Even if he had the worst offensive performance in NFL history today for a QB. |
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Sept 11, 2022 19:53:20 GMT -5
Put it this way. He has to play better then this to be on this team next year that simple
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 11, 2022 19:54:32 GMT -5
I did not even notice that our LG got leveled before that DJ pass to Shep. Looked like the Titan almost tripped over our LG.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 19:58:14 GMT -5
Try opening your eyes the next time you watch a game. Great first post by this guy huh ..
Might be his last post as well, but that will depend on him. Let's give him a chance to dazzle us with his football brilliance.
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Post by njsean on Sept 11, 2022 19:59:51 GMT -5
Because sacks don’t count as incompletions I guess. If he was a complete mess under pressure he wouldn't have only 4 incomplete passes. You guys are stretching so hard...it's weird. Poor Joe Burrow today...his first half that's what being overwhelmed by pressure looks like. And you know what, he's still an elite QB and better than Daniel Jones and many others. Even if he had the worst offensive performance in NFL history today for a QB. It’s possible you and I just have different expectations for navigating pressure and what making a play looks like. The fact that he can throw a 3 yard pass that gets blown up after completion isn’t exactly impressive to me. I want a quarterback that can stare down pressure and convert third downs. I haven’t looked. How did he do on those? He get close to 40%? I’d be shocked. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 20:00:21 GMT -5
A good coaching moment. Nothing more or less
Nailed it.
Time to move on unless you're a Pat Leonard.
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Post by SG88 on Sept 11, 2022 20:01:39 GMT -5
A good coaching moment. Nothing more or less
Nailed it.
Time to move on unless you're a Pat Leonard.
Pat Leonard will call it a QB controversy. Lol |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 11, 2022 20:02:57 GMT -5
Some good Some bad Some ugly. kept fighting and came out with a win. some time to change an avatar. 👏👍 they did win!!! I guess its time!! |
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Post by SG88 on Sept 11, 2022 20:04:18 GMT -5
Upon looking at this play several times, there really was nothing that Jones could have done in this situation. I said otherwise in the GameDay thread and will own that error in judgment.
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Post by jaymas on Sept 11, 2022 20:10:09 GMT -5
If he was a complete mess under pressure he wouldn't have only 4 incomplete passes. You guys are stretching so hard...it's weird. Poor Joe Burrow today...his first half that's what being overwhelmed by pressure looks like. And you know what, he's still an elite QB and better than Daniel Jones and many others. Even if he had the worst offensive performance in NFL history today for a QB. It’s possible you and I just have different expectations for navigating pressure and what making a play looks like. The fact that he can throw a 3 yard pass that gets blown up after completion isn’t exactly impressive to me. I want a quarterback that can stare down pressure and convert third downs. I haven’t looked. How did he do on those? He get close to 40%? I’d be shocked. Let me know when you figure out that hyper specific stat you made up in your head. The Giants and Titans were both around 20 percent on 3rd down today, if that helps you. Like I said, Joe Burrow was under pressure all day today and completely folded. It was understandable. He's still good though. But why would that ever stop anyone from keep their game to game expectations grounded in any sort of reality? |
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Sept 11, 2022 20:12:46 GMT -5
Great first post by this guy huh ..
Might be his last post as well, but that will depend on him. Let's give him a chance to dazzle us with his football brilliance.
Well Roosey..... A wise man once said: If you can't dazzle them with Brilliance confuse them with BS  |
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 20:15:01 GMT -5
Might be his last post as well, but that will depend on him. Let's give him a chance to dazzle us with his football brilliance.
Well Roosey..... A wise man once said: If you can't dazzle them with Brilliance confuse them with BS Lol. Me thinks we gotz the latter with this one. |
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 11, 2022 20:18:10 GMT -5
Upon looking at this play several times, there really was nothing that Jones could have done in this situation. I said otherwise in the GameDay thread and will own that error in judgment. That almost never happens on this board. That is very cool of you to do. |
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 11, 2022 20:23:23 GMT -5
He had 4 incomplete passes...how is that a scattered mess when pressured? Which he was, significantly, all game. I'm all for criticizing the guy when warranted...but that just doesn't make sense. Because sacks don’t count as incompletions I guess. He doesn’t navigate well and create when the play breaks down. What’s a play where he did that today? I’d love to reconsider. Brady just got sacked for the second time on 3rd down. He was on the 4 yard line. I just do not know if he has what it takes for you. |
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Post by nyg2 on Sept 11, 2022 20:49:02 GMT -5
So we’re just making up stats now? QBR is from 0-100. No what was displayed on the Giants post game report. I made a mistake 115.9 That's his passer rating, which goes up to 158.3. Now QBR which you referenced only goes up to 100: A QBR of 100 means he had a perfect game. A QBR of 75 means he had a pro bowl caliber game. A QBR of 50 means he had an average game. Daniel Jones QBR is 25.8. Currently 24th best in the league. |
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Post by TEM on Sept 11, 2022 20:53:22 GMT -5
No what was displayed on the Giants post game report. I made a mistake 115.9 That's his passer rating, which goes up to 158.3. Now QBR which you referenced only goes up to 100: A QBR of 100 means he had a perfect game. A QBR of 75 means he had a pro bowl caliber game. A QBR of 50 means he had an average game. Daniel Jones QBR is 25.8. Currently 24th best in the league. it sates QB rating. |
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