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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 20:26:16 GMT -5
Why don't we all get in on this?
Give us your grades and commentary on whatever you feel talking about - or just lurk. 
OFFENSE Pass Rush Coaching
DEFENSEPass
Rush
Coaching
SPECIALS Kicking/Punting
Returns
Coverage
HEAD COACH
GAME BALL
OFFICIALS
TV BROADCAST
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Post by Roswell on Sept 11, 2022 20:32:45 GMT -5
Offense
Passing B
Running. A+
Defense
Passing. B-
Rushing. A-
Specials. C
Coaching. A+
Game ball. Barkley/Daboll
Refs. A
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Sept 11, 2022 20:38:17 GMT -5
Why don't we all get in on this?
Give us your grades and commentary on whatever you feel talking about - or just lurk.
OFFENSE Pass Rush Coaching
DEFENSEPass
Rush
Coaching
SPECIALS Kicking/Punting
Returns
Coverage
HEAD COACH
GAME BALL
OFFICIALS
TV BROADCAST
Offense Pass - C Rush - S for Saquan ****ing Barkley Coaching - B due to solid 2nd half adjustments Defense Pass - NP for no pass rush Rush - B (Henry never took over) Coaching - B (I don't think we have players) Special Kicking - D Punting - A Coverage - G for garbage Returning - B Head Coach - B for BALLS OF STEEL GAME ALL - daboll obviously |
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Post by TEM on Sept 11, 2022 20:41:55 GMT -5
TEM
Overall Offense B-
Runing A
Passing B+
O-line C
QB B+
Overall Defense B-
Pass rush C-
D-line B
Tackling A
Adoree' Jackson A+ (Name never mentioned)
Rest of the secondary C+
Overall Special teams B-
Punt and kick coverage C ( muff takeaway kept them out of a D)
Punt and Kick return B
Punting A
Kicking A
Long snapping C
Coaching A-
Defensive coaching B+
Offensive coaching A-
HC A+
Game Ball Barkley
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Post by Jomo on Sept 11, 2022 20:43:42 GMT -5
The best part about Specials is that we realized how bad our coverage was on kickoffs and started banging it through the end zone.
Other than our punter, I'd give our Specials a D.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Sept 11, 2022 20:44:28 GMT -5
TEM Overall Offense B- Runing A Passing B+ O-line C QB B+ Overall Defense B- Pass rush C- D-line B Tackling A Adoree' Jackson A+ (Name never mentioned) Rest of the secondary C+ Overall Special teams B- Punt and kick coverage C ( muff takeaway kept them out of a D) Punt and Kick return B Punting A Kicking A Long snapping C Coaching A- Defensive coaching B+ Offensive coaching A- HC A+ Can't agree with you on Jackson. He had at least one PI that i remember. He was adequate but gave up his share of plays today. |
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Post by Roswell on Sept 11, 2022 20:46:31 GMT -5
I thought Robinson had a good game. Holmes was a nightmare
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 11, 2022 20:47:59 GMT -5
OFFENSE
PASSING C+ I think as the OL gels this will improve they faced off with one of the best fronts in the game and weathered the storm.
Rushing A they trampled one of the best fronts in the game.
Coaching A+ great adjustments throughout the games great patience to stick with the run still let DJ go get this game.
DEFENSE
Pass C to much space underneath not as much press as expected.
Rush A they had a tall task against a rugged front with big nasty back and held him down to 82 yards.
Coaching A they were saved by a missed field goal but Wink does not have a full compliment of talent do to injury and they are just short handed.
Kicking and Punting Punting an A Gilliams bombed them and made them play on along field on offense. Kicking C- missed extra point.
Returns B they ere productive most of the night some short returns but some pretty good ones.
Coverage C mixed bag some good some bad and saved a few times by penalty
HEAD COACH A+ ran the game like he has been doing this for 10 years.
GAME BALL Barkely they don't win without him he took it over.
OFFIALS C- lot of missed calls holding mostly saw williams get grabbed around the waist and tackled same with crowder.
TV it was OK I guess.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 20:57:15 GMT -5
Offense Passing B Running. A+ Defense Passing. B- Rushing. A- Specials. C Coaching. A+ Game ball. Barkley/Daboll Refs. A
I like everything but the refs, but then again I loathe most of them.
Was it me or was the Titan's LT moving pre-snap on numerous occasions which was never called?
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Post by piddy283 on Sept 11, 2022 21:00:13 GMT -5
OFFENSE
Pass
C: Wasn’t impressed with Jones. The W hides some of the same flaws we’ve seen for years.
Rush
A+: The kid is back.
Coaching
A+: I’d give them a C if this wasn’t their first game, but since it was I give them an A+ for one reason. First half was bad but they actually adjusted at halftime. I thought I was hallucinating.
DEFENSE
Pass
C+: Little pass rush but few big plays
Rush
A+: Less than 100 yards and 4ypc for the “ king”
Coaching
C+: I’ll call ignorance, but nothing seemed overly exotic or aggressive. Might help if we had our starting edge rushers.
SPECIALS
Kicking/Punting
B
Returns
B-
Coverage
C-
HEAD COACH
A
GAME BALL
Barkley
OFFICIALS
B-: Overall pretty good but .I felt like the defensive holdings on the last drive were suspect and complete game changer.
TV BROADCAST
A++: I was at a bar and the audio was off but I was listening to random fans cheer and cuss at random times for their random teams. I then had most of the staff pulling for the giants by the end.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 21:01:31 GMT -5
TEM Overall Offense B- Runing A Passing B+ O-line C QB B+ Overall Defense B- Pass rush C- D-line B Tackling A Adoree' Jackson A+ (Name never mentioned) Rest of the secondary C+ Overall Special teams B- Punt and kick coverage C ( muff takeaway kept them out of a D) Punt and Kick return B Punting A Kicking A Long snapping C Coaching A- Defensive coaching B+ Offensive coaching A- HC A+ Game Ball Barkley
I think Jackson got called on a ticky tack PI play but other he played well. And kudos to Robinson as well. I fully expected them to abuse him.
I thought our secondary played pretty well. The Titans made some nice plays against us.
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Post by allnygin on Sept 11, 2022 21:02:00 GMT -5
OFFENSE
Pass - C.
Offensive line continues to struggle, but seemed to get better in the second half. Neal looked good out there and that's huge. Still expect him to have some ups and downs as the season goes on. The middle of that line needs to get better. I think it'll continue to get better and who knows by mid season maybe we have a serviceable oline for once.
Danny did danny things, threw some nice passes, made an insanely bad decision that he has no business doing at this point in his career. Staring down barkley the entire way, not going through progressions, and still throwing it to the defender was mind blowingly bad and its things like that, that make it very hard for me see him as the future.
He's still just awful in the pocket once it breaks down. Oblivious or just way to late to react. Game 1 with a new offense could've been worse I guess and I'm probably a little to hard on him, I want him to be the real deal.
Rush A+
Nothing to say here barkley was phenomenal and the reason the giants won this game.
Coaching
I thought coaching all around was great. I liked the play calling on offense it looked good, players were getting open, we actually scored points while being in the redzone.
Defensively, the goal was to stop henry they did that.
DEFENSE B
Pass - C. Gonna go with a C here, a lot of drives were stalled bc open recivers on the titans d dropped the ball. Holmes almost cost us the game, penalties at the end of the game was not good.
Rush - A. Stoped henry what more can you ask for
Coaching A
SPECIALS C
Returns - I like this kid Richie.
Coverage - really bad coverage out there. Not sure how they dropped off so much.
HEAD COACH - Daboll was great going for 2 points at the end was awesome, and I would have agreed with it had it not worked. Sets the tone, lets the players know he trusts them.
GAME BALL - Barkley
OFFICIALS - Overall not bad imo
TV BROADCAST - don't have anything bad to say about it, so must've been okay
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Post by GameTime on Sept 11, 2022 21:02:07 GMT -5
OFFENSE
Pass: B. Big mistakes and some big plays too. Efficient stats. Kept fighting .
Rush: A++. Barkely with 164 and others adding in another 75 or so. Great game on the ground.
Coaching: A. They won without playing well often. Fought back for sure.
DEFENSE
Pass: C: Issues underneath with the coverage. A couple of costly PI's. A couple of batted passes was very good to see. They will lead to picks.
Rush: A-. Holding Henry to under 100 and no TDs. I will take that all day. A few big stops too.
Coaching: Trying to see whats what with this D. Coaches will try to get as many square pegs in square holes.
SPECIALS
Kicking/Punting: B+. One moment of drama other wise good.
Returns: C. Wasnt too bad.
Coverage: B-. One bad coverage play the rest of the day was good and they recovered a fumble.
HEAD COACH: Daboll was intense and focused. Was getting with his players for both good news and not so good news. Like that he got with Jones after that pick. Showed trust in the players.
GAME BALL: Saquon Barkely of course. Ran and played with great effort all day!! Dude got it done and then some. :
OFFICIALS: B. Mostly ok.
TV BROADCAST: Wasnt bad. The game itself was keeping me entertained.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 21:05:12 GMT -5
The best part about Specials is that we realized how bad our coverage was on kickoffs and started banging it through the end zone. Other than our punter, I'd give our Specials a D.
Our specials sucked in the second half of last year as well as the preseason which has had me a bit down on McGaughey, but with the turnover with the bottom of the roster I'm not sure if it's fair to blame it on the coach.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 11, 2022 21:07:24 GMT -5
TEM Overall Offense B- Runing A Passing B+ O-line C QB B+ Overall Defense B- Pass rush C- D-line B Tackling A Adoree' Jackson A+ (Name never mentioned) Rest of the secondary C+ Overall Special teams B- Punt and kick coverage C ( muff takeaway kept them out of a D) Punt and Kick return B Punting A Kicking A Long snapping C Coaching A- Defensive coaching B+ Offensive coaching A- HC A+ Game Ball Barkley
I think Jackson got called on a ticky tack PI play but other he played well. And kudos to Robinson as well. I fully expected them to abuse him.
I thought our secondary played pretty well. The Titans made some nice plays against us.
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 11, 2022 21:07:44 GMT -5
Never heard Sanchez do a game before as broadcaster but I thought he did great.
GAME BALL: Barkley
OFFENSE: B ---- A for the running game - passing game C but Jones was efficient.
DEFENSE: B- ---- better than I expected with top 2 pass rushers out and linebackers I've never heard of until recently.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 21:08:50 GMT -5
OFFENSE Pass C: Wasn’t impressed with Jones. The W hides some of the same flaws we’ve seen for years. Rush A+: The kid is back. Coaching A+: I’d give them a C if this wasn’t their first game, but since it was I give them an A+ for one reason. First half was bad but they actually adjusted at halftime. I thought I was hallucinating. DEFENSE Pass C+: Little pass rush but few big plays Rush A+: Less than 100 yards and 4ypc for the “ king” Coaching C+: I’ll call ignorance, but nothing seemed overly exotic or aggressive. Might help if we had our starting edge rushers. SPECIALS Kicking/Punting B Returns B- Coverage C- HEAD COACH A GAME BALL Barkley OFFICIALS B-: Overall pretty good but .I felt like the defensive holdings on the last drive were suspect and complete game changer. TV BROADCAST A++: I was at a bar and the audio was off but I was listening to random fans cheer and cuss at random times for their random teams. I then had most of the staff pulling for the giants by the end.
I expected our secondary to be exposed and that didn't happen so i was happy with Wink's plan. All I care about is getting the win.
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Post by redeyejedi on Sept 11, 2022 21:09:59 GMT -5
Offense Passing B Running. A+ Defense Passing. B- Rushing. A- Specials. C Coaching. A+ Game ball. Barkley/Daboll Refs. A
I like everything but the refs, but then again I loathe most of them.
Was it me or was the Titan's LT moving pre-snap on numerous occasions which was never called?
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 21:10:11 GMT -5
Never heard Sanchez do a game before as broadcaster but I thought he did great. Lol. At first I thought he was okay and then in the 4th quarter I was like STFU. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 11, 2022 21:10:42 GMT -5
I like everything but the refs, but then again I loathe most of them.
Was it me or was the Titan's LT moving pre-snap on numerous occasions which was never called?
We can let it go. They missed on a hold on the Barkley 2 point conversion So did I. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 11, 2022 21:13:23 GMT -5
OFFENSE Pass C: Wasn’t impressed with Jones. The W hides some of the same flaws we’ve seen for years. Rush A+: The kid is back. Coaching A+: I’d give them a C if this wasn’t their first game, but since it was I give them an A+ for one reason. First half was bad but they actually adjusted at halftime. I thought I was hallucinating. DEFENSE Pass C+: Little pass rush but few big plays Rush A+: Less than 100 yards and 4ypc for the “ king” Coaching C+: I’ll call ignorance, but nothing seemed overly exotic or aggressive. Might help if we had our starting edge rushers. SPECIALS Kicking/Punting B Returns B- Coverage C- HEAD COACH A GAME BALL Barkley OFFICIALS B-: Overall pretty good but .I felt like the defensive holdings on the last drive were suspect and complete game changer. TV BROADCAST A++: I was at a bar and the audio was off but I was listening to random fans cheer and cuss at random times for their random teams. I then had most of the staff pulling for the giants by the end. I'm hoping with Jones that as they learn the system and Dabolls gets after him some, he improves and these bone headed things stop happening. I give him the pass on the fumble he had no chance there, but the pick he did more then 1 thing wrong on that play it could have been the game loser for them, he did compose himself for the final drive the presence of SQB took a lot of pressure off of DJ. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 11, 2022 21:14:20 GMT -5
I think Jackson got called on a ticky tack PI play but other he played well. And kudos to Robinson as well. I fully expected them to abuse him.
I thought our secondary played pretty well. The Titans made some nice plays against us.
Robinson had a good game for his first start outside....maybe he will actually develop into a good starter Played a physical game in the run and pass game. |
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Post by yoho on Sept 11, 2022 21:40:49 GMT -5
I thought Robinson had a good game. Holmes was a nightmare I expected more from Homes given his multiple picks at camp. |
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Post by yoho on Sept 11, 2022 21:42:52 GMT -5
Robinson had a good game for his first start outside....maybe he will actually develop into a good starter Played a physical game in the run and pass game. Loved it when Crowder de-cleated Henry. So much so that I gave him a pass on the wheel route debacle. |
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Post by Jomo on Sept 11, 2022 21:47:37 GMT -5
I don't know much about #55 but I hope he is just a placeholder for Thibs and Olijari.
He was constantly out of position and trailing the play.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 11, 2022 21:48:11 GMT -5
Played a physical game in the run and pass game. Loved it when Crowder de-cleated Henry. So much so that I gave him a pass on the wheel route debacle. They asked I guess after it he almost got a taunting penalty his answer " F#$%em let em call it we will just lineup again " little attitude from that D really the whole team that OL slapped that Titans front around a little in the run game. |
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Post by TEM on Sept 11, 2022 22:02:08 GMT -5
I think Jackson got called on a ticky tack PI play but other he played well. And kudos to Robinson as well. I fully expected them to abuse him.
I thought our secondary played pretty well. The Titans made some nice plays against us.
Robinson had a good game for his first start outside....maybe he will actually develop into a good starter I hope he does. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 11, 2022 22:05:41 GMT -5
I thought Robinson had a good game. Holmes was a nightmare I expected more from Homes given his multiple picks at camp. no doubt. See how he bounces back. |
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 11, 2022 23:22:08 GMT -5
Since I was in the house and got to celebrate with the other Giants fans in the house wildly all throughout the 2nd half, I gave the whole thing a 10, A FU**ING 10!!!
In all seriousness it was a good effort for the last 30 minutes. I know they had no pass rush, but it wasn’t for lack of effort. They were bringing extra rushers, just never got home. Tremendous credit to the D to be serviceable without those 2 young men.
Saquon A+(Clearly the game ball)
Daboll B+(to me there is no justification for the small amount of snaps/touches Toney got)
Jones C(awful pick and awful awareness on the fumble) Very good accuracy a couple big runs. The usual mixed bag.
O-Line, seemed like the old story. When I watched Neal individually he seemed good(was watching him specifically on Shep’s long TD) Interior was not good. C+ overall.
I think you could give a second game ball to the Titans staff for some baffling decisions/calls.
It never seemed to be Jackson, but there were open receivers all day ( this could be expected with no pass rush)
Also watched McKinney individually quite a bit, just a hell of a player.
Long story short, great to see the W in person. Although at half time I wouldn’t have bet one solitary penny on the outcome. Hopefully they get Thibs and Azeez back next week and build off that identity as an offense.
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Post by lt56 on Sept 11, 2022 23:44:45 GMT -5
Ezeudu is a absolute Mauler of a Run Blocker, had his struggles with Pass Blocking but hell everybody will struggle to block Jeffery Simmons that guy is a Monster, very underrated. After some early mistakes Ezeudu settled in and started to go to work and was moving people
Really good at Pulling and getting to the second level also
he did not look ready early, I know in the Game Thread I posted he wasn't ready and to pull him out but the Coaches stuck with him and he did improve during that game
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