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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 10:38:14 GMT -5
the solution to the WR problem should be solved in the draft IMO... Don't think these are mutually exclusive things. Odell is not a "solution" to WR, he'd be part of a solution, probably for the next 2ish years (if the team felt good about signing him). Would not stop a premium pick from being used on a WR next year. Don't see how anyone would feel OBJ or Shepard can be counted on for a full year forget about the next 2ish..
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Post by DandyDon on Nov 28, 2022 11:11:53 GMT -5
Just speculation, but I think the whole plane incident is an over zealous flight attendant making more out of it than it was. My guess, he was sleeping waiting for take off, and was awoken to tell him to fasten his belt, hence the whole "in and out of consciousness". There obviously wasn't any medical condition, and he probably got agitated when they asked him to deplane, since there wasn't anything wrong with him, and he was probably half asleep. It isn't like he had to be dragged off and video shows him compliantly leaving. Again, all just my guess as to what happened...guess we will find out. I don't know what happened either. But I doubt it was "an overzealous flight attendant." As a result of his actions, they had to empty the entire plane and caused a 2 hour delay to an entire planeload of passengers on a holiday weekend. That doesn't happen because someone was just asleep.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 28, 2022 11:12:27 GMT -5
Just speculation, but I think the whole plane incident is an over zealous flight attendant making more out of it than it was. My guess, he was sleeping waiting for take off, and was awoken to tell him to fasten his belt, hence the whole "in and out of consciousness". There obviously wasn't any medical condition, and he probably got agitated when they asked him to deplane, since there wasn't anything wrong with him, and he was probably half asleep. It isn't like he had to be dragged off and video shows him compliantly leaving. Again, all just my guess as to what happened...guess we will find out. So the over zealous flight attendant is your speculation and not from an article you read including comments from OBJ’s lawyer? Been traveling for decades on planes and never seen a person escorted off despite many over zealous flight attendants. I’m sure OBJ was just a victim . . . again.
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Post by giantsmets on Nov 28, 2022 11:24:36 GMT -5
Honestly, as bad as the team needs WR's, this would not be a wise investment. He has blown out the ACL twice on the same knee, he hasn't had a 1000+ yard season since 2019, he is on the wrong side of 30. The issue becomes do you really want another high priced WR contract that won't pan out(albeit for different reasons than KG)? Love OBJ, just not a smart move for the future of the team.
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Post by jaymas on Nov 28, 2022 11:39:56 GMT -5
Don't think these are mutually exclusive things. Odell is not a "solution" to WR, he'd be part of a solution, probably for the next 2ish years (if the team felt good about signing him). Would not stop a premium pick from being used on a WR next year. Don't see how anyone would feel OBJ or Shepard can be counted on for a full year forget about the next 2ish.. I'm saying that's how it would be planned for in an ideal state, not whether he should be signed or not. Even a 100 percent, not getting hurt Beckham, doesn't negate a premium pick or a hypothetical 30-year-old vet signing that's good, and doesn't get hurt...wouldn't negate the draft capital.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 11:45:13 GMT -5
Don't see how anyone would feel OBJ or Shepard can be counted on for a full year forget about the next 2ish.. I'm saying that's how it would be planned for in an ideal state, not whether he should be signed or not. Even a 100 percent, not getting hurt Beckham, doesn't negate a premium pick or a hypothetical 30-year-old vet signing that's good, and doesn't get hurt...wouldn't negate the draft capital. Hey man my bad I'm only going by what you wrote out here.. I hope they pass on a WRs early in the draft this year.. Will that happen we will see next year..
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Post by jaymas on Nov 28, 2022 11:55:52 GMT -5
I'm saying that's how it would be planned for in an ideal state, not whether he should be signed or not. Even a 100 percent, not getting hurt Beckham, doesn't negate a premium pick or a hypothetical 30-year-old vet signing that's good, and doesn't get hurt...wouldn't negate the draft capital. Hey man my bad I'm only going by what you wrote out here.. I hope they pass on a WRs early in the draft this year.. Will that happen we will see next year.. Yeah, I wasn't saying I'd count on OBJ staying healthy, but our FO may have a different idea. In reality, I don't think we are going to sign him, and it will be injury related more than anything else. Depending on our board, I'd love a 1st or 2nd round pick used on a WR next year, ideally a 1st.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 12:06:10 GMT -5
Hey man my bad I'm only going by what you wrote out here.. I hope they pass on a WRs early in the draft this year.. Will that happen we will see next year.. Yeah, I wasn't saying I'd count on OBJ staying healthy, but our FO may have a different idea. In reality, I don't think we are going to sign him, and it will be injury related more than anything else.Depending on our board, I'd love a 1st or 2nd round pick used on a WR next year, ideally a 1st. Money over everything since he would be worth a shot at a minimum salary..
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 28, 2022 16:24:28 GMT -5
Just speculation, but I think the whole plane incident is an over zealous flight attendant making more out of it than it was. My guess, he was sleeping waiting for take off, and was awoken to tell him to fasten his belt, hence the whole "in and out of consciousness". There obviously wasn't any medical condition, and he probably got agitated when they asked him to deplane, since there wasn't anything wrong with him, and he was probably half asleep. It isn't like he had to be dragged off and video shows him compliantly leaving. Again, all just my guess as to what happened...guess we will find out. So the over zealous flight attendant is your speculation and not from an article you read including comments from OBJ’s lawyer? Been traveling for decades on planes and never seen a person escorted off despite many over zealous flight attendants. I’m sure OBJ was just a victim . . . again. Lol I have flown a lot and seen MANY overzealous flights attendants who get a power trip over telling people what they can and can't do. To the point of being rude ass holes. Like I said, it was my guess, and I wasn't saying Beckham didnt DESERVE to be asked to deplane. He was probably pissed and acting a fool. But lets not act like he committed some grevious crime and was forced off in hand cuffs...
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 28, 2022 16:28:19 GMT -5
I don't know what happened either. But I doubt it was "an overzealous flight attendant." As a result of his actions, they had to empty the entire plane and caused a 2 hour delay to an entire planeload of passengers on a holiday weekend. That doesn't happen because someone was just asleep. It happens for a multitude of reasons. Namely an ornery passenger. They'll redirect and prematurely land flights because of it. Exactly, I wasn't saying he didnt deserve to be asked to get off the plane, and I am sure he was ornery and probably combative about being asked to do so. But there is the possibility that he was asleep, maybe even took a sleep aid, and reacted the way he did because of that. Who knows, I was just speculating, sort of what we do here...
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 29, 2022 10:57:18 GMT -5
signing OBJ will do nothing for this team, he might make a few plays but maybe not this season, by next year we we will have the money and draft to get the WRs we need, right now patience is what is needed...
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 29, 2022 11:04:37 GMT -5
OBJ has always been a loose cannon and I have no reason to think he has changed, 3 reasons to not sign him are injuries, age and the fact that he seems to still be a nut case....not to mention the money he will want..
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Post by DandyDon on Nov 29, 2022 11:20:54 GMT -5
I don't know what happened either. But I doubt it was "an overzealous flight attendant." As a result of his actions, they had to empty the entire plane and caused a 2 hour delay to an entire planeload of passengers on a holiday weekend. That doesn't happen because someone was just asleep. It happens for a multitude of reasons. Namely an ornery passenger. They'll redirect and prematurely land flights because of it. I get that. But this plane was on the ground getting ready to take off. For whatever reason, they couldn't get him to fasten his seatbelt so the plane returned to the gate where he supposedly refused to get off. It's not clear why they had to empty the entire plane instead of just getting police to remove him, but it seems to be a lot more than an overzealous flight attendant.
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Post by presumablygunner on Nov 30, 2022 19:35:26 GMT -5
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Nov 30, 2022 21:13:52 GMT -5
Apparently were meeting with OBJ 12/1 from what I've heard. The 2 sides can see if there's a happy middle to meet on. But I don't see how OBJ can pass on Dallas. A better team, they should have more money than us. We supposedly don't have no money.
With Dallas OBJ has more publicity and a better chance to a path to a SB and should get more money. He might just see what we say and use us to raise Dallas offer.
I'd love to have Odell he would make us a better team. We'll see what happens.
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Post by presumablygunner on Dec 1, 2022 0:04:03 GMT -5
Apparently were meeting with OBJ 12/1 from what I've heard. The 2 sides can see if there's a happy middle to meet on. But I don't see how OBJ can pass on Dallas. A better team, they should have more money than us. We supposedly don't have no money. With Dallas OBJ has more publicity and a better chance to a path to a SB and should get more money. He might just see what we say and use us to raise Dallas offer. I'd love to have Odell he would make us a better team. We'll see what happens. New York has one thing that Dallas and Buffalo doesn't have.. ..the biggest media market in the world. He can easily turn a small NFL contract into millions in endorsements and sponsorships outside of football if he plays in NY
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 1, 2022 6:43:29 GMT -5
Apparently were meeting with OBJ 12/1 from what I've heard. The 2 sides can see if there's a happy middle to meet on. But I don't see how OBJ can pass on Dallas. A better team, they should have more money than us. We supposedly don't have no money. With Dallas OBJ has more publicity and a better chance to a path to a SB and should get more money. He might just see what we say and use us to raise Dallas offer. I'd love to have Odell he would make us a better team. We'll see what happens. none of us know how long his knees will hold up. I have no faith in it myself, and would be very hesitant to bank the rest of my season on them.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 1, 2022 11:25:27 GMT -5
Apparently were meeting with OBJ 12/1 from what I've heard. The 2 sides can see if there's a happy middle to meet on. But I don't see how OBJ can pass on Dallas. A better team, they should have more money than us. We supposedly don't have no money. With Dallas OBJ has more publicity and a better chance to a path to a SB and should get more money. He might just see what we say and use us to raise Dallas offer. I'd love to have Odell he would make us a better team. We'll see what happens. none of us know how long his knees will hold up. I have no faith in it myself, and would be very hesitant to bank the rest of my season on them. Yes I understand, But what or who else is there to help this season. OBJ is the only thing coming down the road to help. Just looking for a way to make us better or even a chance to be better. Even if we sign him for the remainder of this season and next year it should hopefully bridge us till we can stock the position somewhat. It shouldn't really hurt the cap and certainly not long term. Don't know if that offer will fly with the OBJ team ? I really don't see how he passes on Dallas anyway.
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Post by Dogecoin on Dec 1, 2022 13:30:23 GMT -5
According to Von Miller, Giants are out of the running. Imo this says a lot more about giants than it does OBJ. I think it indicates giants arent done assessing their current roster (including Jones and Barkley), and again aren't all that motivated to give out a multi year contract to an aging player. Not are they all in on going as far as they can in this post season if it means losing flexibility down the road.
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Post by Speedman on Dec 1, 2022 16:06:00 GMT -5
Von Miller’s opinion might be a bit slanted considering he is on the Bills.
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Post by mendy on Dec 2, 2022 15:29:46 GMT -5
Apparently were meeting with OBJ 12/1 from what I've heard. The 2 sides can see if there's a happy middle to meet on. But I don't see how OBJ can pass on Dallas. A better team, they should have more money than us. We supposedly don't have no money. With Dallas OBJ has more publicity and a better chance to a path to a SB and should get more money. He might just see what we say and use us to raise Dallas offer. I'd love to have Odell he would make us a better team. We'll see what happens. New York has one thing that Dallas and Buffalo doesn't have.. ..the biggest media market in the world. He can easily turn a small NFL contract into millions in endorsements and sponsorships outside of football if he plays in NY If I recall he wasn't happy here the last time he made millions as a NY Giant and said so. Glade they said no.
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Post by presumablygunner on Dec 2, 2022 15:57:04 GMT -5
New York has one thing that Dallas and Buffalo doesn't have.. ..the biggest media market in the world. He can easily turn a small NFL contract into millions in endorsements and sponsorships outside of football if he plays in NY If I recall he wasn't happy here the last time he made millions as a NY Giant and said so. Glade they said no. he's still at the facilities
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Post by presumablygunner on Dec 2, 2022 15:57:18 GMT -5
Spotted in NYC
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Post by presumablygunner on Dec 2, 2022 15:59:43 GMT -5
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Post by mendy on Dec 2, 2022 16:17:17 GMT -5
Glade they said no to the publicity hound.
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Post by Speedman on Dec 2, 2022 21:39:33 GMT -5
Glade they said no to the publicity hound. Where did you see that they said no?
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Post by Roosevelt on Dec 2, 2022 22:07:17 GMT -5
Good to see he dressed for the occasion.
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Post by Nite on Dec 3, 2022 9:45:36 GMT -5
Hes a rotating clown show. .Adds nothing to the team.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 3, 2022 12:58:50 GMT -5
Apparently were meeting with OBJ 12/1 from what I've heard. The 2 sides can see if there's a happy middle to meet on. But I don't see how OBJ can pass on Dallas. A better team, they should have more money than us. We supposedly don't have no money. With Dallas OBJ has more publicity and a better chance to a path to a SB and should get more money. He might just see what we say and use us to raise Dallas offer. I'd love to have Odell he would make us a better team. We'll see what happens. New York has one thing that Dallas and Buffalo doesn't have.. ..the biggest media market in the world. He can easily turn a small NFL contract into millions in endorsements and sponsorships outside of football if he plays in NY That’s a false narrative…if you’re a star in the NFL, you make money wherever you play.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 3, 2022 12:59:50 GMT -5
I genuinely don't think I understand what happened on the plane. No one does right now. It’s just emotion fed reactions to a tweet and video. All we know is that he inconvenienced a lot of people with his nonsense. Me Me Me
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