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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 29, 2024 20:35:51 GMT -5
If the Giants take a WR at 6, gonna be some disappointed DJ fans on this site. The idea a good WR makes a bad QB great, is silly. Adams goes to the Raiders, Carr and Jimmy G. lose their jobs. Cousins gets hurt, Dobbs loses his job with Jefferson and a stud rookie. No Adam's in GB...no problem for Love. Ridley didn’t help Lawrence. Stroud made the Texans WRs better, not the other way around. No stud WR in KC...SB Champs. A great WR can't save a bad passing QB. There's no saving DJ...look what he did to Waller. A stud rookie WR will put up Slayton numbers, at best. wow you hit the nail on the head with all of those points about what happened with the other teams and their WR sitation no doubt..............
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Post by giants8493 on Apr 1, 2024 10:58:40 GMT -5
yet we won Super Bowls with Burress and Nicks Burress was our offensive MVP in 2007 imo. Without him we weren’t winning the Super Bowl. we don't beat green Bay without him IMO
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 1, 2024 11:05:03 GMT -5
Kirk Cousins has quietly been playing at a Hall of Fame level after playing with Diggs and Jefferson.
2022 4547 yards -- 29TD 14INT 99.2 2021 4221 yards -- 33TD 7INT 110.6 2020 4265 yards -- 35TD 13INT 113.8 2019 3603 yards -- 26TD 6INT 115.9 2018 4298 yards -- 30TD 10INT 106.5
you can put those stats next to any of the greatest QB of all time and Kirk would still look good
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 1, 2024 11:06:52 GMT -5
Burress was our offensive MVP in 2007 imo. Without him we weren’t winning the Super Bowl. we don't beat green Bay without him IMO Al Harris got his teeth kicked in all day.. It got so bad that his old lady filed for a divorce after the game. Citing she caught him getting screwed on national television.
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Post by idkaname on Apr 1, 2024 14:06:27 GMT -5
Kirk Cousins has quietly been playing at a Hall of Fame level after playing with Diggs and Jefferson. 2022 4547 yards -- 29TD 14INT 99.2 2021 4221 yards -- 33TD 7INT 110.6 2020 4265 yards -- 35TD 13INT 113.8 2019 3603 yards -- 26TD 6INT 115.9 2018 4298 yards -- 30TD 10INT 106.5 you can put those stats next to any of the greatest QB of all time and Kirk would still look good except when comparing playoff record...
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 1, 2024 14:20:40 GMT -5
Kirk Cousins has quietly been playing at a Hall of Fame level after playing with Diggs and Jefferson. 2022 4547 yards -- 29TD 14INT 99.2 2021 4221 yards -- 33TD 7INT 110.6 2020 4265 yards -- 35TD 13INT 113.8 2019 3603 yards -- 26TD 6INT 115.9 2018 4298 yards -- 30TD 10INT 106.5 you can put those stats next to any of the greatest QB of all time and Kirk would still look good except when comparing playoff record... Cousins has been a lot like Marino. Dan was 8-10 in the playoffs.
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Post by idkaname on Apr 1, 2024 14:24:36 GMT -5
except when comparing playoff record... Cousins has been a lot like Marino. Dan was 8-10 in the playoffs. yeah overrated, just like Rodgers...can't win when the pressure is on. I understand it's a team game but there's no reason Marino / Rodgers etc shouldn't have more superbowl wins except for themselves to blame. If even those guys need the best defenses...isn't that more reason to emphasize defense? but nobody wants to talk about that part
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 1, 2024 15:10:49 GMT -5
Cousins has been a lot like Marino. Dan was 8-10 in the playoffs. yeah overrated, just like Rodgers...can't win when the pressure is on. I understand it's a team game but there's no reason Marino / Rodgers etc shouldn't have more superbowl wins except for themselves to blame. If even those guys need the best defenses...isn't that more reason to emphasize defense? but nobody wants to talk about that part true shit cause after all we've seen many teams win SB's where the QB isn't necessarily a H'Ofamer ........ Dilfer, Brad Johnson, ect...... You surely can with a good O line and damn good D....... Purdy shoulda had in Feb....
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Post by giantbob71 on Apr 1, 2024 21:17:26 GMT -5
Kirk Cousins has quietly been playing at a Hall of Fame level after playing with Diggs and Jefferson. 2022 4547 yards -- 29TD 14INT 99.2 2021 4221 yards -- 33TD 7INT 110.6 2020 4265 yards -- 35TD 13INT 113.8 2019 3603 yards -- 26TD 6INT 115.9 2018 4298 yards -- 30TD 10INT 106.5 you can put those stats next to any of the greatest QB of all time and Kirk would still look good Who were his great WRs in 2015-17? He was really good his last 3 years in Washington.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 1, 2024 21:22:05 GMT -5
Burress was our offensive MVP in 2007 imo. Without him we weren’t winning the Super Bowl. we don't beat green Bay without him IMO for the THIRD time, we got Burres in Free agency and Nicks late Round 1. We didn’t need to draft a WR at #6 overall.
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Post by jaymas on Apr 1, 2024 21:55:03 GMT -5
4.35 with a 42 Inch Vertical going to be hard to pass up on that if he even makes it to #6, one of the QB's might fall to us by Default with the Charger staying at #5 and taking Nabers after Trading Allen and Cutting Mike Williams, so they now need a Receiver too Lots of great college athletes don't really make it in the NFL. You also have to be a great football player too. Well thankfully Nabers just put up 1,596 yds and 14 TDs...so he's got the football part too.
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Post by giants8493 on Apr 1, 2024 22:23:56 GMT -5
we don't beat green Bay without him IMO for the THIRD time, we got Burres in Free agency and Nicks late Round 1. We didn’t need to draft a WR at #6 overall. for the 10th time burres was awesome and so was nicks!!!
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Post by giants8493 on Apr 1, 2024 22:44:44 GMT -5
Kirk Cousins has quietly been playing at a Hall of Fame level after playing with Diggs and Jefferson. 2022 4547 yards -- 29TD 14INT 99.2 2021 4221 yards -- 33TD 7INT 110.6 2020 4265 yards -- 35TD 13INT 113.8 2019 3603 yards -- 26TD 6INT 115.9 2018 4298 yards -- 30TD 10INT 106.5 you can put those stats next to any of the greatest QB of all time and Kirk would still look good Who were his great WRs in 2015-17? He was really good his last 3 years in Washington. I think he had terry McLaren
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Post by giantbob71 on Apr 1, 2024 22:51:35 GMT -5
Who were his great WRs in 2015-17? He was really good his last 3 years in Washington. I think he had terry McLaren He was a rookie in 2019.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 2, 2024 6:43:32 GMT -5
for the THIRD time, we got Burres in Free agency and Nicks late Round 1. We didn’t need to draft a WR at #6 overall. for the 10th time burres was awesome and so was nicks!!! which misses the point for a 4th time. And yes, we know how good they were
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Post by giants8493 on Apr 2, 2024 6:48:00 GMT -5
for the 10th time burres was awesome and so was nicks!!! which misses the point for a 4th time the only point that matters is that Buress and Nicks were instrumental for two super bowl championships. Any other point is small potatoes and misses the real big picture point
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 2, 2024 6:53:39 GMT -5
which misses the point for a 4th time the only point that matters is that Buress and Nicks were instrumental for two super bowl championships. Any other point is small potatoes and misses the real big picture point The whole board revolves around the draft and whether a receiver will be taken at #6. Obviously that’s over your head.
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Post by Merlin on Apr 2, 2024 9:34:01 GMT -5
yeah overrated, just like Rodgers...can't win when the pressure is on. I understand it's a team game but there's no reason Marino / Rodgers etc shouldn't have more superbowl wins except for themselves to blame. If even those guys need the best defenses...isn't that more reason to emphasize defense? but nobody wants to talk about that part true shit cause after all we've seen many teams win SB's where the QB isn't necessarily a H'Ofamer ........ Dilfer, Brad Johnson, ect...... You surely can with a good O line and damn good D....... Purdy shoulda had in Feb.... I would say early on for a newly drafted QBs expected to eventually take over as your franchise players. For the first 2-3 seasons, teams should be geared offensively toward the ease of his development. Focus purely on strength of Oline and as many quality weapons as possible. Once the QB establishes himself and gained the experience. Shift more towards the defensive side of the ball. Chiefs handling of Mahomes is a masterclass lesson toward this.
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Post by krappdetector on Apr 2, 2024 9:44:36 GMT -5
I'm sick of mock drafts. Pick #6 sucks. You get elite nothing. And trading down is rarely worth much. If u r out of the playoffs play ALL BACKUPS and practice squad players at seasons end.
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 2, 2024 10:50:02 GMT -5
true shit cause after all we've seen many teams win SB's where the QB isn't necessarily a H'Ofamer ........ Dilfer, Brad Johnson, ect...... You surely can with a good O line and damn good D....... Purdy shoulda had in Feb.... I would say early on for a newly drafted QBs expected to eventually take over as your franchise players. For the first 2-3 seasons, teams should be geared offensively toward the ease of his development. Focus purely on strength of Oline and as many quality weapons as possible. Once the QB establishes himself and gained the experience. Shift more towards the defensive side of the ball. Chiefs handling of Mahomes is a masterclass lesson toward this. Sounds logical, yet our team has done the exact opposite since last winning a S.B..
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 2, 2024 10:56:42 GMT -5
true shit cause after all we've seen many teams win SB's where the QB isn't necessarily a H'Ofamer ........ Dilfer, Brad Johnson, ect...... You surely can with a good O line and damn good D....... Purdy shoulda had in Feb.... I would say early on for a newly drafted QBs expected to eventually take over as your franchise players. For the first 2-3 seasons, teams should be geared offensively toward the ease of his development. Focus purely on strength of Oline and as many quality weapons as possible. Once the QB establishes himself and gained the experience. Shift more towards the defensive side of the ball. Chiefs handling of Mahomes is a masterclass lesson toward this. and that's exactly what we need to be focusing on.........
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Post by idkaname on Apr 2, 2024 14:16:35 GMT -5
I'm sick of mock drafts. Pick #6 sucks. You get elite nothing. And trading down is rarely worth much. If u r out of the playoffs play ALL BACKUPS and practice squad players at seasons end. Yeah, I'm sure you're job would be okay with you giving up midway through projects because they aren't going smoothly. Just pick them up next time
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Post by Shadow on Apr 2, 2024 16:19:22 GMT -5
Looking at that highlight reel of Odell is the ultimate "what could've been" had he been able to stay healthy.
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Post by giants8493 on Apr 2, 2024 17:36:51 GMT -5
the only point that matters is that Buress and Nicks were instrumental for two super bowl championships. Any other point is small potatoes and misses the real big picture point The whole board revolves around the draft and whether a receiver will be taken at #6. Obviously that’s over your head. As a giants fan on a Giants message board I shared my opinion that we don't beat green Bay without Buress. Guess what? If there's another post like this I'll share my thoughts on Buress and Nicks once more!!! While we are at it might I add that nicks Cruz and Manningham was my favorite wr trio of all time. If you have a problem with people that share their thoughts on the Internet then get off the Internet you fool that's all you'll see. If you have a problem with Buress or nicks as a giant then perhaps you aren't a real fan. Did those two players punt your baby or something?
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