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Post by TEM on Apr 17, 2024 15:58:30 GMT -5
I get it. I would like to see Darius end his career as a Giant for the right price. Michael Gallop, Jerry Judy are comparable in stats. ( 700 yards a season)
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 17, 2024 16:16:21 GMT -5
I get it. I would like to see Darius end his career as a Giant for the right price. Michael Gallop, Jerry Judy are comparable in stats. ( 700 yards a season) He's getting underpaid relative to his production, despite a QB room where out starter has no idea how to throw it deep. So I respect his decision. His leverage goes down if Giants select a WR at #6, and goes up with a QB at #6. To me? trade him. Hyatt/Wan Dale are two really good #2 options, we will take a WR in the first or second on a cost controlled deal and be in a good spot. Ayuik would be a nice get as well. With Daniel off the books next year we can add a $20MM plus WR to help maximize the value of our rookie QB.
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Post by TEM on Apr 17, 2024 16:20:19 GMT -5
I get it. I would like to see Darius end his career as a Giant for the right price. Michael Gallop, Jerry Judy are comparable in stats. ( 700 yards a season) He's getting underpaid relative to his production, despite a QB room where out starter has no idea how to throw it deep. His leverage goes down if Giants select a WR at #6, and goes up with a QB at #6. To me? trade him. Hyatt/Wan Dale are a good start, we will take a WR in the first or second on a cost controlled deal. He career is this WR 1 "IR", WR 2 "I am hurt", WR 3 "I got a thing". Darius "I am ready to go". I am not sure I would trade that guy.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 17, 2024 16:22:21 GMT -5
He's getting underpaid relative to his production, despite a QB room where out starter has no idea how to throw it deep. His leverage goes down if Giants select a WR at #6, and goes up with a QB at #6. To me? trade him. Hyatt/Wan Dale are a good start, we will take a WR in the first or second on a cost controlled deal. He career is this WR 1 "IR", WR 2 "I am hurt", WR 3 "I got a thing". Darius "I am ready to go". I am not sure I would trade that guy. hes limited in what he does, but in terms of what he CAN do, he's quite good. put him on the Chiefs, or Bills. He will get open deep. I think it will be a win/win move. Then again, a QB like Maye would enjoy throwing Deep to Slayton.
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Post by giantbob71 on Apr 17, 2024 16:25:48 GMT -5
Stop paying average talent. If Schoen can't replace Slayton, in the draft, I don't know what to say. If the Giants take a WR at 6, Slayton numbers better be the minumum. Even Hyatt needs to be better than Slayton...and soon!
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 17, 2024 16:33:09 GMT -5
Stop paying average talent. If Schoen can't replace Slayton, in the draft, I don't know what to say. If the Giants take a WR at 6, Slayton numbers better be the minumum. Even Hyatt needs to be better than Slayton...and soon! Hyatt kind of already is better than Slay. Which is a good thing for us. We just need a QB to come in and show it.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 17, 2024 17:07:36 GMT -5
I get it. I would like to see Darius end his career as a Giant for the right price. Michael Gallop, Jerry Judy are comparable in stats. ( 700 yards a season) If he holds out much he'll be ending that career a lot sooner than he thinks.
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Post by TEM on Apr 17, 2024 17:21:52 GMT -5
I get it. I would like to see Darius end his career as a Giant for the right price. Michael Gallop, Jerry Judy are comparable in stats. ( 700 yards a season) If he holds out much he'll be ending that career a lot sooner than he thinks. He has until mandatories.
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 17, 2024 18:16:11 GMT -5
Jerry Jeudy (2 seasons): 1,730 yards, 8 TD, (QB Russell Wilson) $19 million per season Darius Slayton (2 seasons): 1,494 yards, 6 TDs (QB: Daniel Jones/Tyrod Taylor/Tommy Devito) $6.6 million per season
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Post by giants8493 on Apr 17, 2024 18:20:47 GMT -5
Jerry Jeudy (2 seasons): 1,730 yards, 8 TD, (QB Russell Wilson) $19 million per season Darius Slayton (2 seasons): 1,494 yards, 6 TDs (QB: Daniel Jones/Tyrod Taylor/Tommy Devito) $6.6 million per season I think a lot of juedy money comes from hype and potential since he was such a high pick
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 17, 2024 18:32:59 GMT -5
I'm not in such a hurry to get rid of Slayton. He's shown as much as any WR on the team. He's probably the most reliable WR we've had the last few years. We need a #1 WR desperately and then the rest of these guys hopefully show improvement. Hyatt and Wandale are more hope with their potential than anything else at this point.
I'm not positive about anything on this offense until I see it work. We better get major help on the offense with at least 1 of the top 2 picks in the draft.
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Post by TEM on Apr 17, 2024 18:36:51 GMT -5
I agree with this.
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Post by 3days on Apr 17, 2024 18:40:49 GMT -5
Last year he seemed to fix is issues in dropping passes. He deserves a pay raise and an extension.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 17, 2024 19:02:25 GMT -5
I get it. I would like to see Darius end his career as a Giant for the right price. Michael Gallop, Jerry Judy are comparable in stats. ( 700 yards a season) If he holds out much he'll be ending that career a lot sooner than he thinks. He'll get a raise long before that happens.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 17, 2024 19:19:10 GMT -5
Stop paying average talent. If Schoen can't replace Slayton, in the draft, I don't know what to say. If the Giants take a WR at 6, Slayton numbers better be the minumum. Even Hyatt needs to be better than Slayton...and soon! Imagine what your take would be about Schoen is he drafted Hyatt in the 1st round?
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Post by mendy on Apr 17, 2024 19:34:53 GMT -5
They are called "voluntary workouts" for a reason
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Post by sickntired on Apr 17, 2024 19:38:38 GMT -5
I was a huge advocate for Slayton. Wanted him here when others wanted him gone. But I think he’s reached his ceiling. He is indeed a replaceable WR. I don’t see an extension in his future.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 17, 2024 19:43:42 GMT -5
They are called " voluntary workouts" for a reason you’re like a bad song which keeps resurfacing. Same material different year.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 17, 2024 19:49:08 GMT -5
This is the harsh reality of being a football player. Admittedly, I’m not looking at all the stats.
Slayton is a great athlete. Says and does the right thing. Will he get paid what a Shepard got? Probably not yet he warrants the same or similar money.
It’s rough
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 17, 2024 19:59:47 GMT -5
Been saying this for years. The lack of appreciation for Slayton has been going on since he got here. He's a solid player, and folks hate on him because he's not a stud WR1. I'd be absolutely fine if we decided to extend him.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 17, 2024 20:48:29 GMT -5
This is the harsh reality of being a football player. Admittedly, I’m not looking at all the stats. Slayton is a great athlete. Says and does the right thing. Will he get paid what a Shepard got? Probably not yet he warrants the same or similar money. It’s rough I don't think this is going to cause an issue. I doubt the Giants would do anything with Slayton before the draft. It's not as if we have any money to do anything anyway. Waller's decision could free up some money. I'd be happy to use that on Slayton. It wouldn't take a huge amount of cap room to give him a fair extension. As long as Slayton's expectations are reasonable.
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Post by lt56 on Apr 17, 2024 20:56:29 GMT -5
Leading Receiver the last 4 out of 5 seasons I mean he is not wrong for wanting to get paid but if he was worth paying we wouldn't be looking to draft or trade for a #1 Receiver
I would like to keep him but if we get MHJ, Nabers or Odunze then trade him and let him go get paid elsewhere
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Post by giantbob71 on Apr 17, 2024 21:26:16 GMT -5
Leading Receiver the last 4 out of 5 seasons I mean he is not wrong for wanting to get paid but if he was worth paying we wouldn't be looking to draft or trade for a #1 ReceiverI would like to keep him but if we get MHJ, Nabers or Odunze then trade him and let him go get paid elsewhere This! He's under contract, will play this year,and the QB play isn’t imoroving...no need to extend him now. He can't afford to sit out for any games. Slayton is a healthy Sterling Shepherd...with worse per-game stats. How did paying SS workout? If Schoen drafts a WR at 6, he will have used a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd on WRs...if they can't out-produce 43.7 yards per game and .25 TDs per game, something is wrong.
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Post by giantbob71 on Apr 17, 2024 21:34:16 GMT -5
Stop paying average talent. If Schoen can't replace Slayton, in the draft, I don't know what to say. If the Giants take a WR at 6, Slayton numbers better be the minumum. Even Hyatt needs to be better than Slayton...and soon! Imagine what your take would be about Schoen is he drafted Hyatt in the 1st round? I'd expect him to play like 1st round pick...not listen to a million excuses about why he's not. I just want to see the roster and play on the field improving every year. Going into year 3, I don't see it...but keep hearing excuses. When does Schoen actually have to do his job?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 18, 2024 0:56:25 GMT -5
Jerry Jeudy (2 seasons): 1,730 yards, 8 TD, (QB Russell Wilson) $19 million per season Darius Slayton (2 seasons): 1,494 yards, 6 TDs (QB: Daniel Jones/Tyrod Taylor/Tommy Devito) $6.6 million per season He an serve in any Role #1 if need 2 or 3 or 4 if need be at this pint he is pretty complete I see why he is hiding out double digits TDs and over 1000 yards just walked out the door withnBarkley, as much as people dog Waller he need to be accounted for also he is gone as far as I'm concern. This is a guy who over came every obstacle put in front of him born from the 5th rd he is a perfect example fro the young guys on this roster he is not a low end player for where he should be slotted as a 2 or better yet a 3. Giants offense was bad last ear it keeps get worse they need to keep him in blue and upgrade the room also he knows what mid tier 2s get and high end 3s Giants can use him instead of creating another hole in already less than formidable offense.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 18, 2024 0:59:33 GMT -5
They are called " voluntary workouts" for a reason He has a reason he's not there this isn't like he is just working on his own his reason is legit he has turned himself into a legit #2 \ 3 WR
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 18, 2024 1:03:46 GMT -5
Imagine what your take would be about Schoen is he drafted Hyatt in the 1st round? I'd expect him to play like 1st round pick...not listen to a million excuses about why he's not. I just want to see the roster and play on the field improving every year. Going into year 3, I don't see it...but keep hearing excuses. When does Schoen actually have to do his job? He is performing his draft slot by miles he is a legit 2 and high end 3 he has done every thing asked of him and more this offense need to have what they have left and more talented added to the WR room, they don't need to subtract then add a top end rookie who will have growing pains.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 18, 2024 1:09:50 GMT -5
Been saying this for years. The lack of appreciation for Slayton has been going on since he got here. He's a solid player, and folks hate on him because he's not a stud WR1. I'd be absolutely fine if we decided to extend him.
They are trying to be a good team they need good football players he is that he can fill several roles in WR room from WR 1 all the way to WR 2 / 3 / or 4 he will be a helpful to who ever they draft wether it is a QB or a young WR, think it would be a wise investment to extend him out a couple years with an out in year 3
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Post by inthezone on Apr 18, 2024 11:35:50 GMT -5
If they go WR in the 1st round then Slayton will be on the bench more than on the field and since he's immune to playing special teams that is a problem at a $8 million cap hit.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 18, 2024 11:56:54 GMT -5
"uh oh" ? I like Slayton, and would love for him to stay, but he wasn't a lock to make the roster, to just be sitting out. If we draft a WR1, then trade him, and do us both a favor. He gotta understand that even though he was a decent WR option on the Giants, his options are limited.
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