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Post by jjhall91 on Jul 31, 2019 15:30:42 GMT -5
I don't feel Golden Tate is a bad person or has done a very bad thing. Whether he did it intentionally or unintentionally is a subjective matter to those other than Tate.
What is not subjective is the fact he failed to play by the rules that were made very clear and now instead of saying I made an honest mistake and will take responsibility, he feels he should be exhonerated due to his ignorance of the rules.
Somehow, whether intentional or unintentional, he failed to comply and should not feel confident the Giants will pardon him because he said "oops". He failed to verify the situation as was his responsibility.
Having said all that, and being a long time Giants fan, I hope he does not have to serve any form of suspension, but that may not be likely.
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Post by snyder55 on Jul 31, 2019 15:37:36 GMT -5
I like Tate and wish him the best outcome but, I was born and raised in Jersey City and I can smell a liar from a mile away, too bad.
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 31, 2019 16:19:45 GMT -5
Too lazy to read the thread I guess before you made this post....
Where anywhere in this thread does anyone talk about his "previous dishonesty"? It was brought up by DarkSaint and all I did was ask him to expand on it ,you step in and tell me to look it up and call me a sheep and assume I'm lazy ,you're not lazy....you're arrogant , not a good look for a MOD. I got promoted to Mod? Sweet
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Post by r2z2 on Jul 31, 2019 16:23:15 GMT -5
Where anywhere in this thread does anyone talk about his "previous dishonesty"? It was brought up by DarkSaint and all I did was ask him to expand on it ,you step in and tell me to look it up and call me a sheep and assume I'm lazy ,you're not lazy....you're arrogant , not a good look for a MOD. I got promoted to Mod? Sweet You never had the makings of a varsity moderator
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 16:37:38 GMT -5
............means the case is being appealed. Yes, it is being appealed. Thats great. Im still not trying to understand what you're saying here. You think fertility drugs having banned substances in them are a... new thing? Speaking of ignorance. what he doesnt get is the fertility drugs that are banned just happen to increase ones natural testosterone, hence why they are on the list.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 31, 2019 16:50:59 GMT -5
Where anywhere in this thread does anyone talk about his "previous dishonesty"? It was brought up by DarkSaint and all I did was ask him to expand on it ,you step in and tell me to look it up and call me a sheep and assume I'm lazy ,you're not lazy....you're arrogant , not a good look for a MOD. I got promoted to Mod? Sweet Be careful. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 31, 2019 16:55:30 GMT -5
Where anywhere in this thread does anyone talk about his "previous dishonesty"? It was brought up by DarkSaint and all I did was ask him to expand on it ,you step in and tell me to look it up and call me a sheep and assume I'm lazy ,you're not lazy....you're arrogant , not a good look for a MOD. I got promoted to Mod? Sweet It's not a promotion.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 31, 2019 17:05:12 GMT -5
I like Tate and wish him the best outcome but, I was born and raised in Jersey City and I can smell a liar from a mile away, too bad. They lie a lot in Jersey City do they?
If so....How do we know where you're really from?......Hmmm.......
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 31, 2019 17:29:31 GMT -5
I got promoted to Mod? Sweet Be careful. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Just looking forward to the big salary and bennies!
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Post by TEM on Jul 31, 2019 17:31:28 GMT -5
Be careful. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Just looking forward to the big salary and bennies! Just don't forget us little people
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Post by GameTime on Jul 31, 2019 19:05:29 GMT -5
Where anywhere in this thread does anyone talk about his "previous dishonesty"? It was brought up by DarkSaint and all I did was ask him to expand on it ,you step in and tell me to look it up and call me a sheep and assume I'm lazy ,you're not lazy....you're arrogant , not a good look for a MOD. I got promoted to Mod? Sweet I was not part of the approval process..... therefore its null and void.....
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 31, 2019 19:11:48 GMT -5
I got promoted to Mod? Sweet I was not part of the approval process..... therefore its null and void..... Too bad - I already cashed my signing bonus check!!
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Post by GameTime on Jul 31, 2019 20:32:32 GMT -5
I was not part of the approval process..... therefore its null and void..... Too bad - I already cashed my signing bonus check!! Nice.....go get that Happy Meal.....
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Post by piddy283 on Aug 1, 2019 7:08:46 GMT -5
Does anyone know when we should hear something about the appeal? I figured we would've heard something already.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 7:09:35 GMT -5
Does anyone know when we should hear something about the appeal? I figured we would've heard something already. The outcome will be 4 games.
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 1, 2019 15:21:18 GMT -5
I like Tate and wish him the best outcome but, I was born and raised in Jersey City and I can smell a liar from a mile away, too bad. They lie a lot in Jersey City do they?
If so....How do we know where you're really from?......Hmmm.......
why would anybody lie by saying they are from Jersey City?
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 1, 2019 15:25:26 GMT -5
Where anywhere in this thread does anyone talk about his "previous dishonesty"? It was brought up by DarkSaint and all I did was ask him to expand on it ,you step in and tell me to look it up and call me a sheep and assume I'm lazy ,you're not lazy....you're arrogant , not a good look for a MOD. I got promoted to Mod? Sweet is that really considered a promotion, you're going to miss being with us peons...
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 1, 2019 15:26:23 GMT -5
I like Tate and wish him the best outcome but, I was born and raised in Jersey City and I can smell a liar from a mile away, too bad. Sorry that's the refinery section of the Turnpike. Elizabeth is the refinery section...
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 1, 2019 15:41:18 GMT -5
Elizabeth is the refinery section... I know,.............just saying that is what you were smelling. when I was kid growing up near the dumps in Marion Gardens was a smell you never get out of your nose, actually I could see the dumps right out of my bedroom window, now that was all a long time ago but the memory is still there...
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Post by Speedman on Aug 1, 2019 19:05:06 GMT -5
I know,.............just saying that is what you were smelling. when I was kid growing up near the dumps in Marion Gardens was a smell you never get out of your nose, actually I could see the dumps right out of my bedroom window, now that was all a long time ago but the memory is still there... Just curious. If you grew up in the Marion Gardens why did you go to Snyder?
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 2, 2019 15:11:24 GMT -5
when I was kid growing up near the dumps in Marion Gardens was a smell you never get out of your nose, actually I could see the dumps right out of my bedroom window, now that was all a long time ago but the memory is still there... Just curious. If you grew up in the Marion Gardens why did you go to Snyder? my family moved to Greenville section, thank God...that was a long time ago but I still keep in touch with some of my old time friends who are getting fewer and fewer as time goes by..
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Post by Speedman on Aug 2, 2019 15:28:32 GMT -5
Just curious. If you grew up in the Marion Gardens why did you go to Snyder? my family moved to Greenville section, thank God...that was a long time ago but I still keep in touch with some of my old time friends who are getting fewer and fewer as time goes by.. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 15:56:24 GMT -5
Damn me for believing people are good until proven they are not. lets say he didnt know fertility drugs raise testosterone and are banned for that reason. the rule is such that you cant just say well i took a supplement and didnt know what it was. it doesnt work like that with the cops and doesnt work like that for employers drug testing.
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Post by piddy283 on Aug 3, 2019 14:26:09 GMT -5
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Post by Blue Hulk on Aug 6, 2019 13:53:19 GMT -5
^^^^ Keep us updated
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Post by piddy283 on Aug 6, 2019 21:45:12 GMT -5
I don't know all the details, but if Tate was actually prescribed a fertility drug by a doctor, so he and his wife can improve their chances to conceive a child, my hope is the suspension will be reduced. Unfortunately, there have been too many appeals denied in the past for the NFL to simply make an exception.
I understand there are resources for players to leverage to ensure their meds are in line with NFL rules, but if the story is true perhaps the NFL should reconsider which meds are banned.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 7, 2019 11:27:55 GMT -5
www.nj.com/giants/2019/08/giants-golden-tate-suspension-appeal-goes-to-arbitrator-when-is-ruling-expected.htmlTate’s appeal of his four-game suspension for violating the NFL’s performance-enhancing drugs policy will be heard Tuesday in New York City, according to Giants coach Pat Shurmur. “He is going to go to the City at some point tomorrow,” Shurmur said after Monday’s practice. “He may have to leave practice a little early, but it’s kind of an important thing he has to go do.” The arbitrator has three days to make a decision after hearing the appeal, according to the rules of the collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and NFL Players Association. false Boom-or-bust case of Giants LB Alec Ogletree: Playmaker for pass defense? Or liability? New York Giants' Alec Ogletree led all NFL linebackers with 5 interceptions and all defensive players with 2 returned for touchdowns in 2018. The NFL overturned four PED suspensions in 2014 after a change in the policy allowed a previously banned amphetamine, and one in 2016 when Houston Texans offensive tackle Duane Brown ate too much tainted meat in Mexico. Former Giants running back Andre Brown had a four-game PEDs suspension overturned in 2012. Suspension lengths typically are not reduced upon appeal. Tate, who has addressed the media since the day before the suspension was revealed, released a statement saying the failed test was the result of fertility drugs. He said he self-reported the violation to the Giants in April and the appropriate authorities before a positive test result registered. Buy Daniel Jones Giants jersey: Fanatics, NFL Shop, Lids, Champs Sports, Dick's Sporting Goods But the NFL’s policy is unforgiving and gives no consideration to intent, proactive response or honesty. The unanimous opinion around the NFL is Tate is unlikely to win his appeal. Tate, 30, is eligible to play in the four preseason games beginning Thursday against the Jets but will not be permitted around the facility for four weeks if the suspension is upheld. He will lose $1.22 million in salary and bonuses from his four-year, according to CBS Sports’ Joel Corry.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 7, 2019 12:18:23 GMT -5
He should get 2 extra games for lying. There are people in this world who actually struggle with fertility issues and this guy is a complete douche to lie about such issues because he got caught roiding.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 7, 2019 12:21:35 GMT -5
He should get 2 extra games for lying. There are people in this world who actually struggle with fertility issues and this guy is a complete douche to lie about such issues because he got caught roiding. link? proof?
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 7, 2019 12:46:27 GMT -5
He should get 2 extra games for lying. There are people in this world who actually struggle with fertility issues and this guy is a complete douche to lie about such issues because he got caught roiding. link? proof? Alright, I'll do this again ....
It is undisputed that: (1) Tate was married in March, 2017; (2) he had a baby with his wife in 2018; and (3) he had a second baby with his wife (that's two babies in 2 years) in February, 2019 (two months before he claims that he and his wife went for fertility treatments). No doctor in the world would prescribe fertility drugs under such circumstances.
Moreover, you would have to be a complete an utter moron not to realize that fertility treatments could potentially involve banned drugs under the NFL substance abuse policy.
Where is your link and proof that he is telling the truth? The fact that he says he is? lol
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