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Post by soflo on Sept 3, 2019 11:23:52 GMT -5
I'll go on record saying our record NEXT YEAR is 11-5. Especially when we get the dynamic guy and Jones is starting Plus cap space to sign Yannick Ngakoue, draft a legit WR in round 1 and reinforcements on defense rounds 2,3,4...11-5 is my prediction.
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Post by jb456 on Sept 3, 2019 12:17:18 GMT -5
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Post by Parademon1 on Sept 3, 2019 12:30:03 GMT -5
I went 9-7 but could easily be 7-9 or 8-8. 9 wins if our O can put up 25+ppg cuz if we're losing games while putting up 25ppg, then we're in trouble. This D has to hold teams to 23 or less pg, not expecting it to hold opponents to under 21, though that would equate to 10 wins minimum if they could. Last yr we were in almost all our games minus 2-3 of them. We could have easily gone 7-1 in the 2nd half, but the D blew a few games down the stretch. We lost by 1pt in back to back weeks vs the Colts/Cowboys, blew the 2nd Eagles game by not utilizing SB more inn the 2nd half. This O put up 23ppg last yr, & in the 2nd half put up 31ppg in 7 games, minus the shutout vs Tenn. And the OL is improved this yr imo over the OL of the last 7 games of 18'. So let's say they can add a FG more per game this yr would put em at 26ppg, you usually make the playoffs when you can put up 25-26ppg unless your D stinks. To me, our D is gonna be the key as to whether we are a playoff contender or a pretender once again.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 3, 2019 12:37:15 GMT -5
7-9, a better product but I think Eli will still hinder the offense with his addiction to dump offs. I am expecting regular half time deficits. Barkley better stay healthy.
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Post by allnygin on Sept 3, 2019 12:43:17 GMT -5
I'm saying 7-9. Defense will get beat up since they are new and young all evidence points to not having a strong pass rush we'll see though. Offense isn't built to be a scoring juggernaut and to over come the defensive struggles. I say this with optimisim the team is going in the right direction, but they just aren't there yet. Another reason for the losing record is, if you want to have a winning record you better win your divisional games. We can't really seem to do that as of late, not consistently.
The beauty in this is, you just never know. I'd be thrilled to watch Giants playoff football again, and maybe we will this season. End of the day, I'll just be happy if this team looks like a football team and is competing out there. Been awhile since we've even seen that.
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Post by bizcliz on Sept 3, 2019 12:47:15 GMT -5
8-8
Will have a promising first 10 games before the bye, but will struggle with Philly x2, Chicago and Green Bay after that
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Post by jmike on Sept 3, 2019 12:55:55 GMT -5
geez....what a bunch of debbie downers
16-0 baby
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 13:03:09 GMT -5
8-8 they start strong and surprise, then stumble a bit but look hopeful overall for 2020 for things to really get rolling.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 3, 2019 13:24:07 GMT -5
6-10 Change in the QB mid season, complete lack of top WR talent, porous defense but we play a "lighter" schedule so we will add some Ws. 7-9 for the same reasons The offense will probably be fundamentally sound and we will see a lot of Shurmer's schemes but lack of a dynamic playmaker causes the offense to be impotent at times... We need realistically 27 plus points a game to have a chance with our defense Realistically this offense is a 21-23 point a game offense Yes 7-9 But a 7-9 team that really has all arrows pointing up so it wont be as depressing The Giants averaged more points than that in the second half of last year against a tougher schedule, weaker offensive line and no Beckham. What about this offense have you seen that makes you think we've regressed? We must be following different teams this offseason How could a losing record against one of the easiest schedules in the league indicate a team in the rise? Sorry, 7-9 is not improvement after 3 and 5 win seasons.
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 3, 2019 13:31:03 GMT -5
Seems you forgot what our bet is. Perhaps you should revisit it. Then enlighten me. I recall 12 wins, I didn’t agree at all. Was there some small print I missed on the bet? Not small print, I very specifically said if we sweep the Eagles and Cowboys we will win 12 games. That was the entire point of my post. You chose to just read a portion of it apparently.
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Post by nemesis on Sept 3, 2019 13:34:09 GMT -5
6-10 gonna watch every week of this train wreck...F me i like punishment....lol
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 3, 2019 13:40:28 GMT -5
Nah I said if we sweep the Eagles and Cowboys we would win 12 games. If we sweep both of them then we will be a really dam good team.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 3, 2019 13:42:32 GMT -5
7-9 looks like a reasonable guess.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 3, 2019 14:00:10 GMT -5
7-9 for the same reasons The offense will probably be fundamentally sound and we will see a lot of Shurmer's schemes but lack of a dynamic playmaker causes the offense to be impotent at times... We need realistically 27 plus points a game to have a chance with our defense Realistically this offense is a 21-23 point a game offense Yes 7-9 But a 7-9 team that really has all arrows pointing up so it wont be as depressing The Giants averaged more points than that in the second half of last year against a tougher schedule, weaker offensive line and no Beckham. What about this offense have you seen that makes you think we've regressed? We must be following different teams this offseason How could a losing record against one of the easiest schedules in the league indicate a team in the rise? Sorry, 7-9 is not improvement after 3 and 5 win seasons. Some people live in a fantasy world of unicorns and rainbows while the rest of us live in reality
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Post by jb456 on Sept 3, 2019 14:08:52 GMT -5
Nah I said if we sweep the Eagles and Cowboys we would win 12 games. If we sweep both of them then we will be a really dam good team. Honestly, I didn't figure that you were homer to the ninth degree. I just wanted to show that clip from Beerfest. It's freaking hilarious.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Sept 3, 2019 14:09:30 GMT -5
7-9, with a couple breaks 9-7. I think the defense will struggle early due to the youth and inexperience and the offense will have to win games. I actually think the offense is going to be better than people think, but we just don't have any real play makers on defense. Maybe someone like Carter or Golden step up but that's an unknown right now.
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Post by Delicreep on Sept 3, 2019 14:10:09 GMT -5
6 and 10, and that feel generous.
We are a worse team now than we were a year ago, in my opinion.
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 3, 2019 14:16:51 GMT -5
Lots of talk right now about whether we will be good or worse than last year or the best team ever going on right now. So less than a week away from our first game go on record of predicting our record this year.
I'm going with 10-6 and a tough team in the playoffs. I think we surprise most people. This offense is going to score points and keep us in most games. Our D will take lumps early on as they learn but I think we have more talent than last year. We lost 8 games by 1 score last season, I think we will be good enough to turn 5 of those around and find ways to win. We are also lucky with the schedule having Tate out for the first four games and this very young D adjusting to each other and this OL meshing during that time happens to be our "weakest" four game stretch.
Poll closes on game day.
I will go the opposite of you at 6-10. To many question marks on defense. Lots of bodies at WR but no star or stars. And until the giants prove otherwise expect the opposing defenses to put an extra man in the box to help keep Barkley in check. Yes the was 8 games lost by 1 score last year. You say they can turn 5 of those into wins. I say most of those games turn to 2 score+ losses because i feel they are just a lot less experienced in a lot of areas compared to last year However i feel the youth movement will help them become a better team that will grow and gell and learn to win together Daniel Jones gets them to the 9/10 wins u speak of next year then from there 11 & 13 wins and beyond with a few more good drafts and tweaks in FA
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 3, 2019 14:27:04 GMT -5
Lots of talk right now about whether we will be good or worse than last year or the best team ever going on right now. So less than a week away from our first game go on record of predicting our record this year.
I'm going with 10-6 and a tough team in the playoffs. I think we surprise most people. This offense is going to score points and keep us in most games. Our D will take lumps early on as they learn but I think we have more talent than last year. We lost 8 games by 1 score last season, I think we will be good enough to turn 5 of those around and find ways to win. We are also lucky with the schedule having Tate out for the first four games and this very young D adjusting to each other and this OL meshing during that time happens to be our "weakest" four game stretch.
Poll closes on game day.
I will go the opposite of you at 6-10. To many question marks on defense. Lots of bodies at WR but no star or stars. And until the giants prove otherwise expect the opposing defenses to put an extra man in the box to help keep Barkley in check. Yes the was 8 games lost by 1 score last year. You say they can turn 5 of those into wins. I say most of those games turn to 2 score+ losses because i feel they are just a lot less experienced in a lot of areas compared to last year However i feel the youth movement will help them become a better team that will grow and gell and learn to win together Daniel Jones gets them to the 9/10 wins u speak of next year then from there 11 & 13 wins and beyond with a few more good drafts and tweaks in FA Yeah unfortunately unlike the past 15 or so years(2017 being the exception)if we get down 2 scores early its over.or if we give up 24 or more.. Not enough firepower to keep up with what will probably be a really young talent defense but going through growing pains this year
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 3, 2019 14:45:07 GMT -5
6 and 10, and that feel generous. We are a worse team now than we were a year ago, in my opinion. I would say we might have less talent but I’m not sure we will be a worse team. Seeing players getting cut after after getting down to 53 gives me somewhat of an uneasy feeling. I think it was 2017 when we saw Reese signing and releasing guys right up to game 1. Last year we made a lot of moves after cut down day as well. This year our moves were somewhat limited, but that fact that we’re still active tells us what the coaches think about our depth.
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Post by Delicreep on Sept 3, 2019 15:12:26 GMT -5
6 and 10, and that feel generous. We are a worse team now than we were a year ago, in my opinion. I would say we might have less talent but I’m not sure we will be a worse team. Seeing players getting cut after after getting down to 53 gives me somewhat of an uneasy feeling. I think it was 2017 when we saw Reese signing and releasing guys right up to game 1. Last year we made a lot of moves after cut down day as well. This year our moves were somewhat limited, but that fact that we’re still active tells us what the coaches think about our depth. I actually think we do have more talent in some areas...which is great, but I am having a hard time 1) seeing any real defense, and 2) seeing Eli lead us decisively to wins.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 3, 2019 15:49:31 GMT -5
The Giants averaged more points than that in the second half of last year against a tougher schedule, weaker offensive line and no Beckham. What about this offense have you seen that makes you think we've regressed? We must be following different teams this offseason How could a losing record against one of the easiest schedules in the league indicate a team in the rise? Sorry, 7-9 is not improvement after 3 and 5 win seasons. Some people live in a fantasy world of unicorns and rainbows while the rest of us live in reality I'd love for you to explain your 21 PPG theory, but I know this is your trained response when you have no answers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 15:56:52 GMT -5
i think 5 but maybe 6 some eliminated team or 1 without their starting qb gives u an easy w
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Post by 3days on Sept 3, 2019 16:09:43 GMT -5
My heart says 9-7 with Eli closing his year in style. My head says 8-8 is best case and Eli continues to play for another team.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 3, 2019 16:12:52 GMT -5
Some people live in a fantasy world of unicorns and rainbows while the rest of us live in reality I'd love for you to explain your 21 PPG theory, but I know this is your trained response when you have no answers. I have given you plenty of reasons which you refuse to knowledge and I have posted more than enough in this thread
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Sept 3, 2019 16:14:12 GMT -5
I've always been of the mind that you can't predict a season. I'll go with 10 wins.
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Sept 3, 2019 16:14:47 GMT -5
Especially when we get the dynamic guy and Jones is starting Plus cap space to sign Yannick Ngakoue, draft a legit WR in round 1 and reinforcements on defense rounds 2,3,4...11-5 is my prediction. Once Eli is off the books we will be a contender and take advantage of Jones' rookie contract.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 3, 2019 16:22:38 GMT -5
I'd love for you to explain your 21 PPG theory, but I know this is your trained response when you have no answers. I have given you plenty of reasons which you refuse to knowledge and I have posted more than enough in this thread I only asked you to explain how you came up with 21 PPG this year when the team was averaging more against better quality opponents last year?
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 3, 2019 16:26:03 GMT -5
I think we will be closer to 6-10, but if we break even at 8-8 I'd be THRILLED
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Sept 3, 2019 16:30:16 GMT -5
I think we will be closer to 6-10, but if we break even at 8-8 I'd be THRILLED Pessimist
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