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Post by bluebuddha on Dec 1, 2019 21:02:44 GMT -5
what happened to ,, the oline sucks , the rec's ran the wrong route and the wind was whipping in the meadow lands? DJ doesnt get these excuses? These can all be explained away because he a rookie. He is probably not used to the Meadowlands, he has different receivers every week and the oline still sucks. Plus Harooni is not here any more to bring these points up.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 1, 2019 21:14:10 GMT -5
what happened to ,, the oline sucks , the rec's ran the wrong route and the wind was whipping in the meadow lands? DJ doesnt get these excuses? These can all be explained away because he a rookie. He is probably not used to the Meadowlands, he has different receivers every week and the oline still sucks. Plus Harooni is not here any more to bring these points up. I think you are confused that was the other posters using those excuses weekly. But anyway he had a few bad throws and that is expected being a rookie. i do think that last int was on slayton though. he was heard taking blame for it in the huddle. also i like he didnt fumble in bad weather
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 1, 2019 21:14:22 GMT -5
Not one of his best games. Came out firing when the weather was at it's worst, though. Can we get some weapons back? Engram, Tate? Shepard isn't himself since returning. Getting a look at Smith/Engram together could be interesting. He is still playing on mostly natural talent. Made some unbelievable throws under duress. Also made some "dude no" throws ...shit happens. Sounds very familiar...
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 1, 2019 21:18:32 GMT -5
Really? News to me. So when he has a 4 touchdown game I'll just leave it as "he's a rookie." Great, glad we got that out of the way. He's a rookie folks. Nothing to see here, he's just a rookie..
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 1, 2019 21:19:32 GMT -5
Really? News to me. So when he has a 4 touchdown game I'll just leave it as "he's a rookie." Great, glad we got that out of the way. He's a rookie folks. Nothing to see here, he's just a rookie.. Hey! That only applies on bad games.
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Post by bluebuddha on Dec 1, 2019 21:20:48 GMT -5
These can all be explained away because he a rookie. He is probably not used to the Meadowlands, he has different receivers every week and the oline still sucks. Plus Harooni is not here any more to bring these points up. I think you are confused that was the other posters using those excuses weekly. But anyway he had a few bad throws and that is expected being a rookie. i do think that last int was on slayton though. he was heard taking blame for it in the huddle. also i like he didnt fumble in bad weather I really don't remember Harooni much , he was hilarious but he always made excuses for Eli mistakes. I think if DJ makes the same mistakes by theend of year 2 then we might have to worry but the oline has to be fixed before then.
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 1, 2019 21:22:05 GMT -5
Really? News to me. So when he has a 4 touchdown game I'll just leave it as "he's a rookie." Great, glad we got that out of the way. He's a rookie folks. Nothing to see here, he's just a rookie.. Hey! That only applies on bad games. Well, from now on it applies to ALL games. Between you and I, I can see the Eli excuses already for the kid. Wait, my mistake. The rookie, have to remember that. Sorry guys, he's a rookie..
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 1, 2019 21:22:27 GMT -5
Really? News to me. So when he has a 4 touchdown game I'll just leave it as "he's a rookie." Great, glad we got that out of the way. He's a rookie folks. Nothing to see here, he's just a rookie.. YES, for **** sake!!! Virtually every rookie has these ups and downs, and it's foolish to anoint them as HOFers and it's foolish to say that he's a bust.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 1, 2019 21:22:51 GMT -5
I think you are confused that was the other posters using those excuses weekly. But anyway he had a few bad throws and that is expected being a rookie. i do think that last int was on slayton though. he was heard taking blame for it in the huddle. also i like he didnt fumble in bad weather I really don't remember Harooni much , he was hilarious but he always made excuses for Eli mistakes. I think if DJ makes the same mistakes by theend of year 2 then we might have to worry but the oline has to be fixed before then. lol, no he was considered an Eli hater often in battles with those that made excuses. I remember him from the old boards. funny gifs of eli bloopers and what not.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 1, 2019 21:24:49 GMT -5
Really? News to me. So when he has a 4 touchdown game I'll just leave it as "he's a rookie." Great, glad we got that out of the way. He's a rookie folks. Nothing to see here, he's just a rookie.. Come on crunch there was a time, we were told to just throw away the rookie season because it "didnt count"
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 1, 2019 21:25:54 GMT -5
Hey! That only applies on bad games. Well, from now on it applies to ALL games. Between you and I, I can see the Eli excuses already for the kid. Wait, my mistake. The rookie, have to remember that. Sorry guys, he's a rookie.. Tell me the rookies that started in his first year and never had these ups and downs? There must be hundreds of them judging from your posts; in fact, every one but DJ.
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 1, 2019 21:27:44 GMT -5
Really? News to me. So when he has a 4 touchdown game I'll just leave it as "he's a rookie." Great, glad we got that out of the way. He's a rookie folks. Nothing to see here, he's just a rookie.. YES, for **** sake!!! Virtually every rookie has these ups and downs, and it's foolish to anoint them as HOFers and it's foolish to say that he's a bust. It's been a long time so excuse my stubbornness. Are we talking about Daniel Jones? Or Danny Dimes? I keep mistaken the two. Daniel Jones is a rookie, Danny Dimes is getting fitted for his gold jacket and his acceptance speech. Question, who's to blame for the 3 interceptions today? Is it Jones? I know it can't be my man Danny Dimes? Or was it the wet football?
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 1, 2019 21:27:50 GMT -5
I really don't remember Harooni much , he was hilarious but he always made excuses for Eli mistakes. I think if DJ makes the same mistakes by theend of year 2 then we might have to worry but the oline has to be fixed before then. lol, no he was considered an Eli hater often in battles with those that made excuses. I remember him from the old boards. funny gifs of eli bloopers and what not. Harooni was a bed wetting ****ing moron...a mouth breather who still questions of the earth is flat or a globe. Total loser
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 1, 2019 21:29:36 GMT -5
Well, from now on it applies to ALL games. Between you and I, I can see the Eli excuses already for the kid. Wait, my mistake. The rookie, have to remember that. Sorry guys, he's a rookie.. Tell me the rookies that started in his first year and never had these ups and downs? There must be hundreds of them judging from your posts; in fact, every one but DJ. All rookies have their ups and downs. But you already knew that.. Read my post again, you clearly must be off on your judgement.
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 1, 2019 21:29:43 GMT -5
YES, for **** sake!!! Virtually every rookie has these ups and downs, and it's foolish to anoint them as HOFers and it's foolish to say that he's a bust. It's been a long time so excuse my stubbornness. Are we talking about Daniel Jones? Or Danny Dimes? I keep mistaken he two. Daniel Jones is a rookie, Danny Dimes is getting fitted for his gold jacket and his acceptance speech. Question, who's to blame for the 3 interceptions today? Is it Jones? I know it can't be my man Danny Dimes? Or was it the wet football? Oh...I get it it. A couple of ****ing idiots give him a name and get all excited about a few games, and that gives you the green light to cast aside all sound judgement of your own.
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Post by giantsback2020 on Dec 1, 2019 21:30:05 GMT -5
Well, from now on it applies to ALL games. Between you and I, I can see the Eli excuses already for the kid. Wait, my mistake. The rookie, have to remember that. Sorry guys, he's a rookie.. Tell me the rookies that started in his first year and never had these ups and downs? There must be hundreds of them judging from your posts; in fact, every one but DJ. The ups and downs are fine, but criticizing him is no worse than pretending he’s showing anything special, he’s not. Good throws and good plays are made by bad and ordinary QBs. Consistency is what is special about elite QBs. All we know is Jones can flash good and bad, that’s nothing much to go on one way or the other.
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Post by bluebuddha on Dec 1, 2019 21:33:01 GMT -5
I really don't remember Harooni much , he was hilarious but he always made excuses for Eli mistakes. I think if DJ makes the same mistakes by theend of year 2 then we might have to worry but the oline has to be fixed before then. lol, no he was considered an Eli hater often in battles with those that made excuses. I remember him from the old boards. funny gifs of eli bloopers and what not. I pretty sure he was a Eli supporter but maybe your right he wasn't the most popular guy and he rarely poseted anything relevant about football so I might not remember him right. Anyway he was a Mets fans which is why I remember him. It always good to have fellow Mets fans on these boards.
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 1, 2019 21:33:55 GMT -5
It's been a long time so excuse my stubbornness. Are we talking about Daniel Jones? Or Danny Dimes? I keep mistaken he two. Daniel Jones is a rookie, Danny Dimes is getting fitted for his gold jacket and his acceptance speech. Question, who's to blame for the 3 interceptions today? Is it Jones? I know it can't be my man Danny Dimes? Or was it the wet football? Oh...I get it it. A couple of ****ing idiots give him a name and get all excited about a few games, and that gives you the green light to cast aside all sound judgement of your own. Hey, those couple of idiots have names. Not sure what they were but damnit they have families. Clearly.. You don't get it. But please, carry on. I'm enjoying this.
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 1, 2019 21:34:15 GMT -5
Tell me the rookies that started in his first year and never had these ups and downs? There must be hundreds of them judging from your posts; in fact, every one but DJ. The ups and downs are fine, but criticizing him is no worse than pretending he’s showing anything special, he’s not. Good throws and good plays are made by bad and ordinary QBs. Consistency is what is special about elite QBs. All we know is Jones can flash good and bad, that’s nothing much to go on one way or the other. Yeah...I'm not saying he's doing anything amazing. I am saying that to date, his performances have been right down the pipe for a rookie - inconsistent, erratic, some high highs and some low lows. No idea if he turns a corner in year two or three...we shall see. I am saying that if people are saying the book has been written after a handful of games, they literally have never seen a rookie QB before - it's the only explanation.
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 1, 2019 21:36:59 GMT -5
lol, no he was considered an Eli hater often in battles with those that made excuses. I remember him from the old boards. funny gifs of eli bloopers and what not. Harooni was a bed wetting ****ing moron...a mouth breather who still questions of the earth is flat or a globe. Total loser Yeah. And he kept coming back, changing his screen name each time so "no one could recognize him." Foiled again...🙄
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Post by mj312 on Dec 1, 2019 21:46:01 GMT -5
I think jones will be fine and will learn . Shurmer is def putting him in some bad situations for sure , but man it’s interesting how the tables have turned .. Eli has gotten mauled for the last 5 years, gone through seasons with practice squad WR’s , and bargain bin running backs and when you defended him you were a homer .. jones has a bad game and it’s the line and lack of receivers .
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 1, 2019 21:48:39 GMT -5
But hey, he didnt fumble today...
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Post by bluebuddha on Dec 1, 2019 21:51:37 GMT -5
But hey, he didnt fumble today... The box score has him with a fumble but no fumble lost. Did he fumble ?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 1, 2019 21:52:24 GMT -5
But hey, he didnt fumble today... The box score has him with a fumble but no fumble lost. Did he fumble ? I dont remember seeing a fumble... ?
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Post by giantsback2020 on Dec 1, 2019 21:53:17 GMT -5
The ups and downs are fine, but criticizing him is no worse than pretending he’s showing anything special, he’s not. Good throws and good plays are made by bad and ordinary QBs. Consistency is what is special about elite QBs. All we know is Jones can flash good and bad, that’s nothing much to go on one way or the other. Yeah...I'm not saying he's doing anything amazing. I am saying that to date, his performances have been right down the pipe for a rookie - inconsistent, erratic, some high highs and some low lows. No idea if he turns a corner in year two or three...we shall see. I am saying that if people are saying the book has been written after a handful of games, they literally have never seen a rookie QB before - it's the only explanation. Agreed, rookie seasons for a QB are basically boot camp. Survive, don’t quit, take what you see and build off it in the offseason. Jones toughness is his staying quality. He stands in the pocket tough and looks to throw.
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Post by Delicreep on Dec 1, 2019 22:02:18 GMT -5
Harooni was a bed wetting ****ing moron...a mouth breather who still questions of the earth is flat or a globe. Total loser He did once tell me on the other board there was this 50 yr old dbag that would change his sig of others predictions if it turned out they are right about a player. You can't trust anything that ****ing losers says...he believes aliens built the pyramids, the moon landing was faked and that Tiki was a good husband.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 2, 2019 0:01:16 GMT -5
Unfortunately, to this point, Jones hasn't done much to prove doubters wrong. He's shown some flashes, but the concerns coming out of college were around arm strength, ball security, and accuracy. So far, these concerns are real. There are a number of variables outside Jones' control contributing to his struggles. He's also a rookie, so the hope is many of these concerns will eventually be worked out. Here's to hope! i disagree he has thrown a td in every start as a rookie and has multiple 4 td games. he has had his bad moments and turnovers but as rookie that is expected.
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Post by Nullusion on Dec 2, 2019 0:08:02 GMT -5
Weather sucked, Oline is inconsistent, players are banged up, and he's a rookie. At this point it's about getting experience and learning from mistakes. Hopefully the young players on this team make a big jump in year 2 after all of the snaps they're playing in their rookie season.
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Post by TEM on Dec 2, 2019 8:20:25 GMT -5
Really? News to me. So when he has a 4 touchdown game I'll just leave it as "he's a rookie." Great, glad we got that out of the way. He's a rookie folks. Nothing to see here, he's just a rookie.. I am going to say this in very simple terms. That way it is easy to understand . Rookies have good games and bad games. I would rather a few good game mixed in with the bad. If you cannot see that I suggest you read this . www.optimumscouting.com/news/the-rookie-quarterbacks-are-struggling-and-that-s-That way you can get a basic understanding that rookie QB have issues that can be over come as the mature. I suggest TheAnalyst read it as well. It seems he is also undedicated a the trials and tribulations of Rookie QBs too.
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Post by TEM on Dec 2, 2019 8:33:27 GMT -5
Harooni was a bed wetting ****ing moron...a mouth breather who still questions of the earth is flat or a globe. Total loser Yeah. And he kept coming back, changing his screen name each time so "no one could recognize him." Foiled again...🙄 We all know what he is and who he is. He does this, as do the other 2 multi account holders to get these types of reactions.
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