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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 10:28:28 GMT -5
The Cowboys are in cap hell now. They just signed EE and DL with big contracts and still have yet to sign Dak. Cooper is going to demand a big contract. I don't see how they can afford it.
If Garrett does get the OC, should we consider bringing on Cooper? Probably 19 mil.
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Post by hadenough on Jan 17, 2020 10:31:37 GMT -5
Na...we can get a decent WR in the draft. Plus, if they use Engram differently. Use him as a deep threat and get a more traditional TE...that could minimize the urgent need for another WR this year.
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Post by wtfjjk on Jan 17, 2020 10:31:37 GMT -5
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Post by bigblueones on Jan 17, 2020 10:36:02 GMT -5
Na...we can get a decent WR in the draft. Plus, if they use Engram differently. Use him as a deep threat and get a more traditional TE...that could minimize the urgent need for another WR this year. Id take Cooper and jettison Engram,he's always hurt. Get another TE in the draft if we can. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 17, 2020 10:37:00 GMT -5
$80 million under the cap is cap hell?
Give me some of that cap hell this way.
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Post by hadenough on Jan 17, 2020 10:38:12 GMT -5
Na...we can get a decent WR in the draft. Plus, if they use Engram differently. Use him as a deep threat and get a more traditional TE...that could minimize the urgent need for another WR this year. Id take Cooper and jettison Engram,he's always hurt. Get another TE in the draft if we can. I hear ya...but I'm not spending 30% of the available money on a WR. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 10:44:27 GMT -5
$80 million under the cap is cap hell? Give me some of that cap hell this way. How is that possible after signing EE and DL and still needing to sign DP? |
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 17, 2020 10:49:09 GMT -5
$80 million under the cap is cap hell? Give me some of that cap hell this way. How is that possible after signing EE and DL and still needing to sign DP? I said the same thing when this was discussed a week ago. But it makes sense, when the Cowboys resigned Lawrence, Elliot, Martin and Smith I was thinking I guess this team wants to be in cap hell. Especially with Dak wanting his money now. Well, now we see why, they have money to burn. Those bastards.. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 17, 2020 10:59:10 GMT -5
Id take Cooper and jettison Engram,he's always hurt. Get another TE in the draft if we can. I hear ya...but I'm not spending 30% of the available money on a WR. Why spend 98 million for this guy when we can draft a guy who probably comes out of the box and be close to as good as a rookie day 2 or 3... Especially paying as much as we are already at WR... |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 17, 2020 11:00:03 GMT -5
How is that possible after signing EE and DL and still needing to sign DP? I said the same thing when this was discussed a week ago. But it makes sense, when the Cowboys resigned Lawrence, Elliot, Martin and Smith I was thinking I guess this team wants to be in cap hell. Especially with Dak wanting his money now. Well, now we see why, they have money to burn. Those bastards.. They also have like 25-30 UFAs...when dak gets 40 million a year it will be chewed up quickly |
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 17, 2020 11:27:35 GMT -5
I like Cooper but the draft this year is deep in receivers. Keep Slayton in his spot and get a new guy later in the draft.
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Post by Miked1958 on Jan 17, 2020 11:37:01 GMT -5
yep 80M and giants at about 60M. People should research before posting |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 17, 2020 11:52:49 GMT -5
yep 80M and giants at about 60M. People should research before posting 60 million before expected cuts |
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Post by infinite420 on Jan 17, 2020 12:17:37 GMT -5
Theyre numbers are. a bit misleading, but they do a good job of managing the cap. The guys they pay, produce. You would never see an Ogletree take up $10m or an Ellison take up $6m of their caproom. Their payout is very top heavy, but after their top 10 salaries, they get alot of production from those mid-tier guys. Dak & Amari should cost them about $50m/year, leaving them with over $30m to spend. Hence, why they'll let Byron Jones walk. |
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Post by infinite420 on Jan 17, 2020 12:19:15 GMT -5
yep 80M and giants at about 60M. People should research before posting After cuts, we should have around $90m to spend. |
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Post by smitty on Jan 17, 2020 12:20:49 GMT -5
I'd hard pass on Cooper.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 12:21:10 GMT -5
A hard pass on Cooper..
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Post by Shim on Jan 17, 2020 12:33:25 GMT -5
If we're passing Jeudy at #4, it makes entirely no sense to go for Amari. Jeudy's touted as the best route runner to possibly ever come out of college--better than Amari when he was coming out of Alabama and that was on of his strengths. Jeudy would also be on the 5-yr rookie deal.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 17, 2020 12:46:31 GMT -5
The Cowboys are in cap hell now. They just signed EE and DL with big contracts and still have yet to sign Dak. Cooper is going to demand a big contract. I don't see how they can afford it. If Garrett does get the OC, should we consider bringing on Cooper? Probably 19 mil. I keep hearing that, but Im not seeing it...  |
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Jan 17, 2020 13:27:50 GMT -5
The cap numbers are a little misleading on their surface. Our cap is likely to go upwards of 90 million after cutting Eli and Ogletree alone, nevermind if they move on from some other players as well.
In addition, we don't have any significant impending UFAs. The cowboys will likely use most of their cap space on resigning Dak and Amari alone, nevermind that they also have to figure out if they want to keep guys like Sean Lee, Randall Cobb, Robert Quinn and Blake Jarwin.
So, while the boys have some money now, a lot of it is already allocated internally (a benefit of having drafted pretty well). We will be looking at bringing in new guys.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 17, 2020 13:50:07 GMT -5
I'm on the fence about Cooper. He is a heck of a WR but this class is very deep at WR. I would put my free agent money towards keeping Golden and Williams and trying to sign Conklin, Ngokue and Barrett. I would also plan on not giving Engram a huge contract and if we can trade back and gain picks snatch up Kmet.
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Post by Miked1958 on Jan 17, 2020 13:50:26 GMT -5
The cap numbers are a little misleading on their surface. Our cap is likely to go upwards of 90 million after cutting Eli and Ogletree alone, nevermind if they move on from some other players as well. In addition, we don't have any significant impending UFAs. The cowboys will likely use most of their cap space on resigning Dak and Amari alone, nevermind that they also have to figure out if they want to keep guys like Sean Lee, Randall Cobb, Robert Quinn and Blake Jarwin. So, while the boys have some money now, a lot of it is already allocated internally (a benefit of having drafted pretty well). We will be looking at bringing in new guys. Eli is no longer on a contract? It expired after the 2019 season. So there should not be anything to come off the books nor will he need to be cut as he will be a FA to my knowledge |
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Post by PennState1 on Jan 17, 2020 14:22:51 GMT -5
Cooper costs too much and is not reliable to play a full season.
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Jan 17, 2020 14:37:17 GMT -5
The cap numbers are a little misleading on their surface. Our cap is likely to go upwards of 90 million after cutting Eli and Ogletree alone, nevermind if they move on from some other players as well. In addition, we don't have any significant impending UFAs. The cowboys will likely use most of their cap space on resigning Dak and Amari alone, nevermind that they also have to figure out if they want to keep guys like Sean Lee, Randall Cobb, Robert Quinn and Blake Jarwin. So, while the boys have some money now, a lot of it is already allocated internally (a benefit of having drafted pretty well). We will be looking at bringing in new guys. Eli is no longer on a contract? It expired after the 2019 season. So there should not be anything to come off the books nor will he need to be cut as he will be a FA to my knowledge I just checked, you are correct, Eli is off the books. I thought he had one more year. Thanks for pointing out the correction. |
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Post by soflo on Jan 17, 2020 14:43:43 GMT -5
Getting Cooper would go against everything joe judge prioritized. I still don't know why most mocks still have us drafting jeudy. It's not gonna happen.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 17, 2020 14:52:03 GMT -5
As others have stated, this year is exceptionally deep in WR. I'd pass on giving a FA a huge contract, Amari or anyone else.
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Post by Dezzr on Jan 17, 2020 15:01:27 GMT -5
I wouldnt mind going after Cooper. I like Shep but he cant stay healthy lately and I think hes a little over rated by some fans here.
Cooper, Slayton, and a young stud in the draft would be nice imo.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 17, 2020 15:03:33 GMT -5
Getting Cooper would go against everything joe judge prioritized. I still don't know why most mocks still have us drafting jeudy. It's not gonna happen. Jeudy would be awesome, I just think if we really want a WR we should at least TRY and trade back and get picks and another stud WR. There are some really talented WRs. If we got Garrett and drafted Ruggs (after a trade down) having Ruggs and Slayton in a deep passing attack offense would be awesome. |
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Post by TEM on Jan 17, 2020 15:09:18 GMT -5
I would rather spend the money elsewhere on the roster.
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Post by lasion2 on Jan 17, 2020 15:22:39 GMT -5
We can get an Amari clone on day 2 for nothing.
We have EE on a rookie deal, Kaden Smith a UFA, and Ellison. I’m not keen on spending 20 million in cap AND creating a position of need in the draft that isn’t historically deep at that position.
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