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Post by EliQB10 on May 18, 2018 21:34:48 GMT -5
In my heart I wanted Saquon but my head said we should have taken the QB, what say you?
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Post by Roosevelt on May 19, 2018 11:39:32 GMT -5
I have to admit that as much as I believed we should have gone after a QB, I wanted us to take Barkley.
And while I'm not totally comfortable that we passed on a QB, I think I would have felt similar passing on Barkley.
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Post by EliQB10 on May 19, 2018 12:16:12 GMT -5
I have to admit that as much as I believed we should have gone after a QB, I wanted us to take Barkley. And while I'm not totally comfortable that we passed on a QB, I think I would have felt similar passing on Barkley. Yeah, it definitely was not an easy decision...If we would have taken a QB I would have felt disappointed that we missed out on Barkley at the same time...What I do find Interesting though that no other team that needed a QB except the Jets moved up in the the draft. I'm not saying that none of the QBs will never amount to anything but it makes me think that the Giants are not the only team that felt any of the QBs warranted trading up in the draft. |
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Post by Roosevelt on May 19, 2018 13:22:51 GMT -5
I have to admit that as much as I believed we should have gone after a QB, I wanted us to take Barkley. And while I'm not totally comfortable that we passed on a QB, I think I would have felt similar passing on Barkley. Yeah, it definitely was not an easy decision...If we would have taken a QB I would have felt disappointed that we missed out on Barkley at the same time...What I do find Interesting though that no other team that needed a QB except the Jets moved up in the the draft. I'm not saying that none of the QBs will never amount to anything but it makes me think that the Giants are not the only team that felt any of the QBs warranted trading up in the draft. I thought maybe the Bills and the Ravens moved up no? But in any case you’re right that there were mixed views on this QB class as large as it was. |
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Post by TEM on May 19, 2018 13:34:12 GMT -5
I wanted to trade down . I am still happy with the pick . It will be an exciting season . For I am ready for some Football right now. 82 days and counting.
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Post by EliQB10 on May 19, 2018 13:42:08 GMT -5
Yeah, it definitely was not an easy decision...If we would have taken a QB I would have felt disappointed that we missed out on Barkley at the same time...What I do find Interesting though that no other team that needed a QB except the Jets moved up in the the draft. I'm not saying that none of the QBs will never amount to anything but it makes me think that the Giants are not the only team that felt any of the QBs warranted trading up in the draft. I thought maybe the Bills and the Ravens moved up no? But in any case you’re right that there were mixed views on this QB class as large as it was. You are correct Rosie, I forgot that Bills moved up to take Josh Allen and Ravens to take Lamar Jackson...my bad...what I should have said earlier no one except the Jets moved up to within the top 10 picks to take a QB, including Pittsburgh who could use the heir apparent to Ben. |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 19, 2018 14:01:05 GMT -5
I wanted to trade down . I am still happy with the pick . It will be an exciting season . For I am ready for some Football right now. 82 days and counting. I wanted to trade down too and yes it's barely summer and I can't wait for the season to start! |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 19, 2018 14:08:22 GMT -5
Darn, I should have added a 3rd option on this poll for those who wanted to trade down. I don't think I can edit the poll so I will just leave it be...
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Post by jerseyrattler on May 19, 2018 16:05:57 GMT -5
I thought trading down was the best option, but if DG couldn't find a dance partner, Barkley had to be the pick.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 16:38:40 GMT -5
In my heart I wanted Saquon but my head said we should have taken the QB, what say you? Barkley was $1,000 worth of scratch-offs. Rosen/Darnold/Allen were $1,000 put into an IRA. Sure, you might hit 10 grand instantly with the $1,000 worth of scratch-offs...but, probably not. Meanwhile, barring a market collapse...the $1,000 put in the IRA should pay dividends for years to come. |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 19, 2018 16:41:12 GMT -5
In my heart I wanted Saquon but my head said we should have taken the QB, what say you? Barkley was $1,000 worth of scratch-offs. Rosen/Darnold/Allen were $1,000 put into an IRA. Sure, you might hit 10 grand instantly with the $1,000 worth of scratch-offs...but, probably not. Meanwhile, barring a market collapse...the $1,000 put in the IRA should pay dividends for years to come. Bronx, I already know how you feel about this and I cant say tnat I disagree... |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 17:04:35 GMT -5
Barkley was $1,000 worth of scratch-offs. Rosen/Darnold/Allen were $1,000 put into an IRA. Sure, you might hit 10 grand instantly with the $1,000 worth of scratch-offs...but, probably not. Meanwhile, barring a market collapse...the $1,000 put in the IRA should pay dividends for years to come. Bronx, I already know how you feel about this and I cant say tnat I disagree... The high school kid who rides his bike to his after-school job so that he can use the money he makes for college instead often times gets laughed at by the kids whizzing past him in their hot rods. Ten years later, though, that kid has a Lexus AND a future while the other kids' best years are in the rear-view mirror of their Camaros. The Barkettes have been running amok on the boards the past few weeks, taunting a number of us who have serious reservations about passing on a quarterback. I hope I'm proven wrong. I want Barkley to become the next Barry Sanders, 'cuz that probably means the Giants are winning. But I have a sneaking suspicion that I'm not. And you better BELIEVE I'm going to say, "I told you so" to a few on here if that proves to be the case. All we can do now is wait and see. |
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Post by Speedman on May 19, 2018 18:19:46 GMT -5
Bronx, I already know how you feel about this and I cant say tnat I disagree... The high school kid who rides his bike to his after-school job so that he can use the money he makes for college instead often times gets laughed at by the kids whizzing past him in their hot rods. Ten years later, though, that kid has a Lexus AND a future while the other kids' best years are in the rear-view mirror of their Camaros. The Barkettes have been running amok on the boards the past few weeks, taunting a number of us who have serious reservations about passing on a quarterback. I hope I'm proven wrong. I want Barkley to become the next Barry Sanders, 'cuz that probably means the Giants are winning. But I have a sneaking suspicion that I'm not. And you better BELIEVE I'm going to say, "I told you so" to a few on here if that proves to be the case. All we can do now is wait and see. If what proves to be the case? |
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Post by TEM on May 19, 2018 18:41:06 GMT -5
Bronx, I already know how you feel about this and I cant say tnat I disagree... The high school kid who rides his bike to his after-school job so that he can use the money he makes for college instead often times gets laughed at by the kids whizzing past him in their hot rods. Ten years later, though, that kid has a Lexus AND a future while the other kids' best years are in the rear-view mirror of their Camaros. The Barkettes have been running amok on the boards the past few weeks, taunting a number of us who have serious reservations about passing on a quarterback. I hope I'm proven wrong. I want Barkley to become the next Barry Sanders, 'cuz that probably means the Giants are winning. But I have a sneaking suspicion that I'm not. And you better BELIEVE I'm going to say, "I told you so" to a few on here if that proves to be the case. All we can do now is wait and see. How does picking a QB in any way equate in any to getting an education in order to be prepared for life's challenges. Picking a QB is a hit or miss proposition. An Education gives you the ability to see outside the box. You have an education for the rest of your life. A draft pick is fleeting . I fail to see the comparison. As a friend I told you so is a double edged sword. I never have use or would use it to minimize what others believe.. If anything the only thing it accomplishes is proving you are condescending. The next time you may be wrong and it may come back at you twice as hard. We all will be right and wrong with our views. We are not here to point that out at the expense of others when or views are proven to be correct . We had enough of that on the old board. We need to keep this as easy as possible for Rosey to Admin this site. Just some friendly advice.  |
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Post by goldenratio on May 19, 2018 18:46:51 GMT -5
Barkley was $1,000 worth of scratch-offs. Rosen/Darnold/Allen were $1,000 put into an IRA. Sure, you might hit 10 grand instantly with the $1,000 worth of scratch-offs...but, probably not. Meanwhile, barring a market collapse...the $1,000 put in the IRA should pay dividends for years to come. Bronx, I already know how you feel about this and I cant say tnat I disagree... |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 18:49:08 GMT -5
The high school kid who rides his bike to his after-school job so that he can use the money he makes for college instead often times gets laughed at by the kids whizzing past him in their hot rods. Ten years later, though, that kid has a Lexus AND a future while the other kids' best years are in the rear-view mirror of their Camaros. The Barkettes have been running amok on the boards the past few weeks, taunting a number of us who have serious reservations about passing on a quarterback. I hope I'm proven wrong. I want Barkley to become the next Barry Sanders, 'cuz that probably means the Giants are winning. But I have a sneaking suspicion that I'm not. And you better BELIEVE I'm going to say, "I told you so" to a few on here if that proves to be the case. All we can do now is wait and see. If what proves to be the case? That I was right about taking one of the QBs. I realize I could have worded that more eloquently. |
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Post by goldenratio on May 19, 2018 18:50:14 GMT -5
Are not scratch offs gambling? Would it not have been a larger gamble to take a QB with the number 2 overall choice in the draft? BTW, regarding your other post with the college education metaphor, college educations are a dime a dozen and completely overrated these days. Everybody I know who did not go to college pretty much has fared better than those that went into student loan hell. Your metaphors are as "scwewy" as bugs bunny Mr. Bronx! See now that is a metaphor!. ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 18:52:55 GMT -5
The high school kid who rides his bike to his after-school job so that he can use the money he makes for college instead often times gets laughed at by the kids whizzing past him in their hot rods. Ten years later, though, that kid has a Lexus AND a future while the other kids' best years are in the rear-view mirror of their Camaros. The Barkettes have been running amok on the boards the past few weeks, taunting a number of us who have serious reservations about passing on a quarterback. I hope I'm proven wrong. I want Barkley to become the next Barry Sanders, 'cuz that probably means the Giants are winning. But I have a sneaking suspicion that I'm not. And you better BELIEVE I'm going to say, "I told you so" to a few on here if that proves to be the case. All we can do now is wait and see. How does picking a QB in any way equate in any to getting an education in order to be prepared for life's challenges. Picking a QB is a hit or miss proposition. An Education gives you the ability to see outside the box. You have an education for the rest of your life. A draft pick is fleeting . I fail to see the comparison. As a friend I told you so is a double edged sword. I never have use or would use it to minimize what others believe.. If anything the only thing it accomplishes is proving you are condescending. The next time you may be wrong and it may come back at you twice as hard. We all will be right and wrong with our views. We are not here to point that out at the expense of others when or views are proven to be correct . We had enough of that on the old board. We need to keep this as easy as possible for Rosey to Admin this site. Just some friendly advice.  Thanks, TEM, for the advice, but...I didn't actually say I told you so. I said I WILL down the road. And only to the ones who have belittled my concerns about taking a running back with the #2 pick at a time when we needed to be drafting Eli's successor. |
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Post by TEM on May 19, 2018 19:04:13 GMT -5
How does picking a QB in any way equate in any to getting an education in order to be prepared for life's challenges. Picking a QB is a hit or miss proposition. An Education gives you the ability to see outside the box. You have an education for the rest of your life. A draft pick is fleeting . I fail to see the comparison. As a friend I told you so is a double edged sword. I never have use or would use it to minimize what others believe.. If anything the only thing it accomplishes is proving you are condescending. The next time you may be wrong and it may come back at you twice as hard. We all will be right and wrong with our views. We are not here to point that out at the expense of others when or views are proven to be correct . We had enough of that on the old board. We need to keep this as easy as possible for Rosey to Admin this site. Just some friendly advice. Thanks, TEM, for the advice, but...I didn't actually say I told you so. I said I WILL down the road. And only to the ones who have belittled my concerns about taking a running back with the #2 pick at a time when we needed to be drafting Eli's successor. I was not implying you did . If they needed to belittle you to make a point. Look at the source . Do you want to reduce yourself to their diminished lack of self control? |
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Post by fifthavephil on May 19, 2018 19:07:05 GMT -5
Last year( old board ) we all marvel about Barkley talent. After making the playoffs in 2016. No one envision the Giants having a chance to draft Barkley.
Knowing full well he would be a top five pick.
Fast Forward, fortunately
we have him. No looking back.
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Post by EliQB10 on May 19, 2018 20:00:56 GMT -5
It really isn't that complicated ..some feel that we should have taken a QB to possibly be Eli's successor..some feel that we should have taken the best player availble which was Barkley and some feel that we should have traded down to amass more picks. At the end of the day this is just our opinions and we will just have to wait and see how the careers of those drafted pan out. So let's continue to have fun and see what happens..With that being said I'm excited to see what Barkley brings to the table! Go Giants!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 21:39:02 GMT -5
I won’t say “should have” but I am on record having wanted Sam Darnold. He was he only QB I wanted though.
But I also think Barkley was a great pick.
People put too much stock in the draft. It’s about getting good players and nothing more. It’s cliche but I believe the draft is about “hitting doubles” rather than “home runs” .
Barkley was a double: has a high floor, unanimously the top player on the Giants board (and many other boards). One of only two prospects the GM has graded at the level he did (9) in his entire career. I can’t fault the pick one bit.
Trying to get a franchise QB short of a Peyton Manning-like prospect being here for the taking, is swinging for the fences. You are likely to strike out
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 21:43:17 GMT -5
In my heart I wanted Saquon but my head said we should have taken the QB, what say you? Barkley was $1,000 worth of scratch-offs. Rosen/Darnold/Allen were $1,000 put into an IRA. Sure, you might hit 10 grand instantly with the $1,000 worth of scratch-offs...but, probably not. Meanwhile, barring a market collapse...the $1,000 put in the IRA should pay dividends for years to come. I actually think it’s the opposite. The QBs were the gamble. You strike out on QBs most of the time. A prospect like Barkley has a high floor and was “safer” in the context of the 2018 draft |
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Post by jerseyrattler on May 20, 2018 8:53:30 GMT -5
Last year( old board ) we all marvel about Barkley talent. After making the playoffs in 2016. No one envision the Giants having a chance to draft Barkley. Knowing full well he would be a top five pick. Fast Forward, fortunately we have him. No looking back. True, can't go back now but some just can't let go |
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Post by Speedman on May 20, 2018 9:25:10 GMT -5
If what proves to be the case? That I was right about taking one of the QBs. I realize I could have worded that more eloquently. What will you say if the Giants make the playoffs this season? |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 9:42:49 GMT -5
That I was right about taking one of the QBs. I realize I could have worded that more eloquently. What will you say if the Giants make the playoffs this season? I don't know if you saw my statement about the contrast between buying scratch-offs and putting the money into an IRA, but...I guess like when you win $20 on a scratch-off, I'd say, "Woo hoo!" But when we enter into quarterback hell and for years can't find our way to 8-8, let alone the playoffs...will that "Woo hoo!" sustain me? |
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Post by Speedman on May 20, 2018 10:29:54 GMT -5
What will you say if the Giants make the playoffs this season? I don't know if you saw my statement about the contrast between buying scratch-offs and putting the money into an IRA, but...I guess like when you win $20 on a scratch-off, I'd say, "Woo hoo!" But when we enter into quarterback hell and for years can't find our way to 8-8, let alone the playoffs...will that "Woo hoo!" sustain me? You really need to let go of this QB thing. The FO made the decision and we have to live with it whether good or bad. |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 20, 2018 10:33:38 GMT -5
I don't know if you saw my statement about the contrast between buying scratch-offs and putting the money into an IRA, but...I guess like when you win $20 on a scratch-off, I'd say, "Woo hoo!" But when we enter into quarterback hell and for years can't find our way to 8-8, let alone the playoffs...will that "Woo hoo!" sustain me? You really need to let go of this QB thing. The FO made the decision and we have to live with it whether good or bad. +1 |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 10:59:54 GMT -5
I don't know if you saw my statement about the contrast between buying scratch-offs and putting the money into an IRA, but...I guess like when you win $20 on a scratch-off, I'd say, "Woo hoo!" But when we enter into quarterback hell and for years can't find our way to 8-8, let alone the playoffs...will that "Woo hoo!" sustain me? You really need to let go of this QB thing. The FO made the decision and we have to live with it whether good or bad. So...in a thread titled "How many of you feel that we should have taken a QB at #2?", I can't express my opinion that we should have? |
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Post by EliQB10 on May 20, 2018 12:07:22 GMT -5
You really need to let go of this QB thing. The FO made the decision and we have to live with it whether good or bad. So...in a thread titled "How many of you feel that we should have taken a QB at #2?", I can't express my opinion that we should have? Bronx, let it go man, we all know how you feel already...you certainly have the right to express your opinion but maybe spare us some of your long analogies...🤣 |
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