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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 19:08:47 GMT -5
Would you trade:
Daniel Jones ... Saquon Barkley ... Dexter Lawrence
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Deshaun Watson
Texans say they want three 1st round picks, well there you go. Purely for message board content. Don't take yourself too seriously. 😉
In my opinion this is a good trade for both franchises. Giants get a proven prime QB and the Texans shave 2 years off a rebuild regardless if Jones works out. This is something you seriously think about if both sides are willing to deal.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 21, 2021 19:42:07 GMT -5
LMAO. Hell no.
On a side note I really do enjoy these types of threads.
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Post by Delicreep on Jan 21, 2021 19:42:27 GMT -5
Would you trade: Daniel Jones ... Saquon Barkley ... Dexter Lawrence for Deshaun Watson Texans say they want three 1st round picks, well there you go. Purely for message board content. Don't take yourself too seriously. 😉 In my opinion this is a good trade for both franchises. Giants get a proven prime QB and the Texans shave 2 years off a rebuild regardless if Jones works out. This is something you seriously think about if both sides are willing to deal. In the spirit of the thread...in a heartbeat. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 19:45:05 GMT -5
Would you trade: Daniel Jones ... Saquon Barkley ... Dexter Lawrence for Deshaun Watson Texans say they want three 1st round picks, well there you go. Purely for message board content. Don't take yourself too seriously. 😉 In my opinion this is a good trade for both franchises. Giants get a proven prime QB and the Texans shave 2 years off a rebuild regardless if Jones works out. This is something you seriously think about if both sides are willing to deal. In the spirit of the thread...in a heartbeat. Me too i would say Yes asap. Sorry Jones I still love you! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 19:45:59 GMT -5
LMAO. Hell no. On a side note I really do enjoy these types of threads. What makes you say no, your confidence in Jones? The current state of the process? Or not wanting to lose homegrown talent? |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jan 21, 2021 20:18:16 GMT -5
Losing Lawrence would suck but if this scenario means we keep Williams and Tomlinson, I say hell yeah.
Instantly better.
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Post by jimmieray on Jan 21, 2021 20:34:02 GMT -5
Losing Lawrence would suck but if this scenario means we keep Williams and Tomlinson, I say hell yeah. Instantly better. I imagine Watson will get more than the 3 players we give up combined, for consideration now. So that would create a bigger issue with retaining Williams. But eventually those players could each command a significant contract, looking further down the road. |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 21, 2021 20:36:49 GMT -5
LMAO. Hell no. On a side note I really do enjoy these types of threads. Me too, this makes me LMAO. Some of the same peeps here who believe a QB needs to be able to "carry" his team, now want a QB who has achieved nothing, "carried" nothing, and is acting like a diva after accomplishing nothing. You can't make this stuff up. 🙄 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 20:36:55 GMT -5
Losing Lawrence would suck but if this scenario means we keep Williams and Tomlinson, I say hell yeah. Instantly better. I imagine Watson will get more than the 3 players we give up combined, for consideration now. So that would create a bigger issue with retaining Williams. But eventually those players could each command a significant contract, looking further down the road. If Jones becomes elite his 2nd contract will be worth more than Watson's extension. I like your forward vision. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 20:41:05 GMT -5
LMAO. Hell no. On a side note I really do enjoy these types of threads. Me too, this makes me LMAO. Some of the same peeps here who believe a QB needs to be able to "carry" his team, now want a QB who has achieved nothing, "carried" nothing, and is acting like a diva after accomplishing nothing. You can't make this stuff up. 🙄 There you go taking yourself seriously Watson 2020: 4823yds 33tds 7ints 70.2% completion percentage All of this while leading a 4-12 team. This will be a great time to change your opinion... ps no leverage to see here 😴 |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 21, 2021 20:46:04 GMT -5
Me too, this makes me LMAO. Some of the same peeps here who believe a QB needs to be able to "carry" his team, now want a QB who has achieved nothing, "carried" nothing, and is acting like a diva after accomplishing nothing. You can't make this stuff up. 🙄 There you go taking yourself seriously Watson 2020: 4823yds 33tds 7ints 70.2% completion percentage All of this while leading a 4-12 team. This will be a great time to change your opinion... ps no leverage to see here 😴 Yes Watson sells jerseys and goes to Pro Bowls, but what has he ever won? You don't think Jones could have as many playoff wins after 4 years? |
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Post by jimmieray on Jan 21, 2021 20:46:08 GMT -5
I imagine Watson will get more than the 3 players we give up combined, for consideration now. So that would create a bigger issue with retaining Williams. But eventually those players could each command a significant contract, looking further down the road. If Jones becomes elite his 2nd contract will be worth more than Watson's extension. I like your forward vision. I think this league will be looking at a severe competent QB shortage for the near future, and I'm also concerned about a division rival acquiring Watson. Jones won't even need to be anywhere near elite, to stick around somewhere and still collect on the continually rising QB contracts. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 21:02:22 GMT -5
There you go taking yourself seriously Watson 2020: 4823yds 33tds 7ints 70.2% completion percentage All of this while leading a 4-12 team. This will be a great time to change your opinion... ps no leverage to see here 😴 Yes Watson sells jerseys and goes to Pro Bowls, but what has he ever won? You don't think Jones could have as many playoff wins after 4 years? They've been reverse building his team since he was drafted. Traded Hopkins, let Mathieu walk, whos the RB??, and are constantly trading away draft picks. Can you blame him for wanting to get out of there? |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 21, 2021 21:06:13 GMT -5
Me too, this makes me LMAO. Some of the same peeps here who believe a QB needs to be able to "carry" his team, now want a QB who has achieved nothing, "carried" nothing, and is acting like a diva after accomplishing nothing. You can't make this stuff up. 🙄 There you go taking yourself seriously Watson 2020: 4823yds 33tds 7ints 70.2% completion percentage All of this while leading a 4-12 team. This will be a great time to change your opinion... ps no leverage to see here 😴 I dont take myself so seriously. I think you would know that if you've read my posts. You seem to be a very young person who believes individual stats are important. They are in a way for $$$, but it depends on what you watch the NFL for. If you like it for big contracts, Watson is for you. If you like it for building a team that can win a ring, Watson isnt for you. I'm a pretty old person who will bet Watson is making a mistake here. Time will tell who is right. |
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Post by McCherry on Jan 21, 2021 21:14:56 GMT -5
If Jones becomes elite his 2nd contract will be worth more than Watson's extension. I like your forward vision. I think this league will be looking at a severe competent QB shortage for the near future, and I'm also concerned about a division rival acquiring Watson. Jones won't even need to be anywhere near elite, to stick around somewhere and still collect on the continually rising QB contracts. Imagine him in Washington? That’s the team that should be putting together an offer. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 21:22:13 GMT -5
There you go taking yourself seriously Watson 2020: 4823yds 33tds 7ints 70.2% completion percentage All of this while leading a 4-12 team. This will be a great time to change your opinion... ps no leverage to see here 😴 I dont take myself so seriously. I think you would know that if you've read my posts. You seem to be a very young person who believes individual stats are important. They are in a way for $$$, but it depends on what you watch the NFL for. If you like it for big contracts, Watson is for you. If you like it for building a team that can win a ring, Watson isnt for you. I'm a pretty old person who will bet Watson is making a mistake here. Time will tell who is right. No disrespect my apologies.. If an elite QB shows me he still plays at a high level with minimal talent im willing to work around the cap to try to win something with him (ie Rodgers). Watson showed the NFL he can put up MVP numbers on a 4-12 team. Who wouldn't take that risk? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 21, 2021 22:49:23 GMT -5
Possibly
We would need to extend him to fit him under the cap 2 extra years
Where do we replace a starting DT along with the dire need for at least 1 dynamic reciever... and we would need a decent back ..
We would have to resign both Williams and Tomlinson.
Can't sign a FA WR or FA anything
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 23:15:20 GMT -5
Possibly We would need to extend him to fit him under the cap 2 extra years Where do we replace a starting DT along with the dire need for at least 1 dynamic reciever... and we would need a decent back .. We would have to resign both Williams and Tomlinson. Can't sign a FA WR or FA anything Playing devil's advocate here, I would say you still have BJ Hill & Gallman on the roster along with your 2021 draft picks. There are also a few contracts that can be cleared for cap space. You then bet on your GM and make things happen in the draft with your picks and lower tier FAs. This is the type of thought process when you have an established franchise QB, imo. Try to make it work by any means necessary. It's definitely not easy though. The Packers were lucky (or skilled enough) to get Aaron Jones in the 5th and having Adams under contract while hitting on WR Valdes-Scantling & TE Tonyan. |
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Post by SG88 on Jan 21, 2021 23:19:36 GMT -5
I would do it. You have to get the QB position right before you get anything else right. There is a real possibility that Jones won't even get a 2nd contract here.
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Post by SG88 on Jan 21, 2021 23:22:39 GMT -5
There you go taking yourself seriously Watson 2020: 4823yds 33tds 7ints 70.2% completion percentage All of this while leading a 4-12 team. This will be a great time to change your opinion... ps no leverage to see here 😴 Yes Watson sells jerseys and goes to Pro Bowls, but what has he ever won? You don't think Jones could have as many playoff wins after 4 years? Giants fans crack me up when they talk shit about other players to boost up their own. At least Watson's teams actually make the playoffs less last year. Jones had more turnovers than TDs in an offense friendly league. |
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Post by SG88 on Jan 21, 2021 23:23:54 GMT -5
LMAO. Hell no. On a side note I really do enjoy these types of threads. They're cool threads to be honest. I just don't get it when our fans crack on other good or great players on other teams to boost up our own guys. |
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Post by lasion2 on Jan 21, 2021 23:26:12 GMT -5
I’m game. But instead of Dex, I’d give up rds 2,3,5,6, and 7 this year. Take 2 shots in the draft for wr. Cut the dead weight contracts on the offense and try to sign all the defensive guys, see what they can do with a 28 ppg offense.
That even legal?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 23:53:02 GMT -5
I’m game. But instead of Dex, I’d give up rds 2,3,5,6, and 7 this year. Take 2 shots in the draft for wr. Cut the dead weight contracts on the offense and try to sign all the defensive guys, see what they can do with a 28 ppg offense. That even legal? You get points for even trying to facilitate a top 3 QB into the mix. By any means necessary is my rule when you have that type of talent at any position 💪🏿 People forget we hit on Jacobs in the 4th, Bradshaw in the 7th, Kevin Boss in the 5th, Madison at CB & Mitchell at LB in FA, and James Butler as an UDFA to build around Eli, our offensive line and Plax leading up to our 2007 superbowl. It takes the entire draft and being smart in FA to build a Superbowl team. Multiple ways to make it happen too. |
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Post by GameTime on Jan 22, 2021 6:36:01 GMT -5
if the Texans want 3 first round picks do they mean past players or from the 2021, 22, 23 draft? I may not want to mortgage the future like that. Althoguh not having to pay 3 future 1st round picks can have its advantages as well.
To answer the threads question yes I would make that trade. As much as want Jones to be the guy for the NYGs you can't deny Watson's talent. Football is a team game so all this what has "he won" is kind of silly. Think of the excuses for the QB if Hopkins was a Giant and was let go!!
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Post by wtfjjk on Jan 22, 2021 6:48:38 GMT -5
Would you trade: Daniel Jones ... Saquon Barkley ... Dexter Lawrence for Deshaun Watson Texans say they want three 1st round picks, well there you go. Purely for message board content. Don't take yourself too seriously. 😉 In my opinion this is a good trade for both franchises. Giants get a proven prime QB and the Texans shave 2 years off a rebuild regardless if Jones works out. This is something you seriously think about if both sides are willing to deal. In a heartbeat. Watson is an instant upgrade to an MVP level at QB. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 7:06:45 GMT -5
I would make this trade in a heart beat..
Don't have any idea where this leaves them cap wise which I think matters in situations like this..
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Post by Eazy E on Jan 22, 2021 9:11:19 GMT -5
Deshaun has a National Championship, 3 Pro Bowls in 5 years, Age 25, only 1 1000 yd rusher in 4 years (Carlos Hyde). He has been sacked 174 times in his career with only 36 INTs in 4 seasons. What would he do with an Oline and running game? The sky is the limit.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 22, 2021 9:15:43 GMT -5
I would do that trade in a heartbeat. I like DJ, but I think Watson is significantly better, at least at this juncture. DJ could evolve into a top end QB, but he has some serious warts to freeze off, as has been discussed ad nauseum.
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 22, 2021 9:49:26 GMT -5
I dont take myself so seriously. I think you would know that if you've read my posts. You seem to be a very young person who believes individual stats are important. They are in a way for $$$, but it depends on what you watch the NFL for. If you like it for big contracts, Watson is for you. If you like it for building a team that can win a ring, Watson isnt for you. I'm a pretty old person who will bet Watson is making a mistake here. Time will tell who is right. No disrespect my apologies.. If an elite QB shows me he still plays at a high level with minimal talent im willing to work around the cap to try to win something with him (ie Rodgers). Watson showed the NFL he can put up MVP numbers on a 4-12 team. Who wouldn't take that risk? And you would be willing to basically decimate the team that is being built here so we could go 4 and 12 next year with an exciting QB? |
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 22, 2021 10:05:06 GMT -5
just take a look at where the Texans are right now with Watson, he is not making a difference so what would he do for the Giants, we might make this deal and go absolutely no where because we stink and lose a lot of assets we already have, just say no to this deal...
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