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Post by TheAnalyst on Feb 11, 2021 14:51:30 GMT -5
Round 1 - Pick 1 Justin Herbert QB NFL DRAFT • 6'6" / 236 LBS The Offensive Rookie of the Year lands in Cincinnati. His All-Pro upside is too enticing for him not to be the top pick. Round 1 - Pick 2 Chase Young EDGE NFL DRAFT • 6'5" / 264 LBS Even with some quarterbacks on the board, the Football Team is completely content selecting Young again. Round 1 - Pick 3 Justin Jefferson WR NFL DRAFT • 6'1" / 202 LBS The Lions have to revamp the receiver corps, and they don't hesitate to pick Jefferson this early. Round 1 - Pick 4 Tristan Wirfs OL NFL DRAFT • 6'5" / 320 LBS The Giants get another opportunity to pick the best offensive tackle in the class. Round 1 - Pick 5 Joe Burrow QB NFL DRAFT • 6'4" / 221 LBS The Dolphins don't think twice about picking Burrow here. Round 1 - Pick 17 Antoine Winfield Jr. S NFL DRAFT • 5'9" / 203 LBS Winfield was a striking force in run support and as a blitzer while holding his own in coverage for the Buccaneers as a rookie. He's the type of player the Cowboys desperately need. Round 1 - Pick 21 Tee Higgins WR NFL DRAFT • 6'4" / 215 LBS The Eagles need to add receiving weaponry to their roster, and Higgins quietly had a strong rookie campaign in Cincinnati. Round 1 - Pick 32 Andrew Thomas OL NFL DRAFT • 6'5" / 315 LBS Thomas' strong play down the stretch and Kansas City's need on the offensive line is enough for the former Georgia star to sneak into Round 1. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/could-russell-wilson-be-traded-theres-one-clear-landing-spot-and-it-could-reignite-a-franchise/
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Post by GameTime on Feb 11, 2021 14:53:30 GMT -5
wow..
more hindsight BS.
what is this good for again?
to show that some teams have a crystal ball?
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Post by hadenough on Feb 11, 2021 15:15:30 GMT -5
I watched Wirfs a lot in the playoffs....I don't see much difference between him and Thomas. If Thomas can do what he did the last half of the season...he'll be fine. The first half was bad though.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Feb 11, 2021 15:17:57 GMT -5
wow.. more hindsight BS. what is this good for again? to show that some teams have a crystal ball? Its an exercise they put together using hindsight. For fun? They do this all the time after a year or 2 or 3.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 11, 2021 15:18:37 GMT -5
Wirfs is also a career RT as well,he prefers that side anyway Either way 1 year out this is stupid Wonder how far everyone's draft crush Simmons fell.
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Post by McCherry on Feb 11, 2021 16:39:44 GMT -5
I know fans here think they know more than Mel Kiper, but he was on Rannaan’s podcast today. Projects Waddle or Pitts as targets for us at 11, but both could be gone. Says Pitts should be viewed as a receiver. The opt outs will fall in the draft so teams should get steals in the later rounds. Grades 41 receivers in the first 6 rounds, there are some talented WR’s in the second round but the top 3 are a league above the rest. Draft is deep at WR bit empty on edge rushers.
Also grades Jones higher than all the QB’s except Lawrence. Still thinks Jones has a future but admits this is the year he needs to prove it.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 11, 2021 16:57:16 GMT -5
Wirfs is also a career RT as well,he prefers that side anyway Either way 1 year out this is stupid Wonder how far everyone's draft crush Simmons fell. next year he will be a steal at 32 lol these redrafts are stupid. 4 years out it is interesting if they have context of what the player was expected to be and what the mocks thought of him. After one year on an ankle that needed surgery kind of dumb
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Post by jaymas on Feb 11, 2021 17:14:16 GMT -5
"Andrew Thomas has strong second half of the year..." sneaks into first round.
Logic there is really solid.
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Post by TEM on Feb 11, 2021 17:50:11 GMT -5
Who cares what the after the fact experts say or think?
Here is my re-mock of the 2000 Draft .Tom Brady is draft by the Cleveland Browns with the first over all pick. Wow it did not change history.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 11, 2021 17:51:00 GMT -5
I know fans here think they know more than Mel Kiper, but he was on Rannaan’s podcast today. Projects Waddle or Pitts as targets for us at 11, but both could be gone. Says Pitts should be viewed as a receiver. The opt outs will fall in the draft so teams should get steals in the later rounds. Grades 41 receivers in the first 6 rounds, there are some talented WR’s in the second round but the top 3 are a league above the rest. Draft is deep at WR bit empty on edge rushers. Also grades Jones higher than all the QB’s except Lawrence. Still thinks Jones has a future but admits this is the year he needs to prove it. Except trying to convert Pitts into a fulltime outside X reciever will turn him into Devin Funchess Does not have outside WR speed nor the skillsets to get seperation against starting Corners...you don't see any 6'6 240 lb WRs for this reason He is an inside dynamic big bodied slot /hybrid H back playmaker than can probably block good enough in a secondary role to be a chess piece moved around all over the place for mismatches and to pull players out of the box
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 11, 2021 17:54:58 GMT -5
Wirfs is also a career RT as well,he prefers that side anyway Either way 1 year out this is stupid Wonder how far everyone's draft crush Simmons fell. The right tackle spot has become just as important as the left tackle. No shame in being a “career right tackle.” Judging off one year Wirfs and Becton have the brightest future. Thomas needs to prove a hell lot more than just a half of a season of good play.
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 11, 2021 18:02:29 GMT -5
Who cares what the after the fact experts say or think? Here is my re-mock of the 2000 Draft .Tom Brady is draft by the Cleveland Browns with the first over all pick. Wow it did not change history. It’s the offseason. Time of the year when stories are slim pickings. For Gods sake, we have two threads about our Mr. Bean quarterback.
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Post by McCherry on Feb 11, 2021 18:08:35 GMT -5
I know fans here think they know more than Mel Kiper, but he was on Rannaan’s podcast today. Projects Waddle or Pitts as targets for us at 11, but both could be gone. Says Pitts should be viewed as a receiver. The opt outs will fall in the draft so teams should get steals in the later rounds. Grades 41 receivers in the first 6 rounds, there are some talented WR’s in the second round but the top 3 are a league above the rest. Draft is deep at WR bit empty on edge rushers. Also grades Jones higher than all the QB’s except Lawrence. Still thinks Jones has a future but admits this is the year he needs to prove it. Except trying to convert Pitts into a fulltime outside X reciever will turn him into Devin Funchess Does not have outside WR speed nor the skillsets to get seperation against starting Corners...you don't see any 6'6 240 lb WRs for this reason He is an inside dynamic big bodied slot /hybrid H back playmaker than can probably block good enough in a secondary role to be a chess piece moved around all over the place for mismatches and to pull players out of the box Not an outside WR. In Florida he lined up mostly as the Y. Kiper's point was that you shouldn't compare him to traditional TE's. He's not going to be doing alot of blocking, which is why he fits the Giants where we utilize multiple TE's.
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Post by GameTime on Feb 11, 2021 18:15:58 GMT -5
judging draft picks performance is one thing. I get that even after one year.
readjusting their position in the draft is ****ing ridiculous. Its not fun nor does it prove anything constructive what so ever
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Post by GameTime on Feb 11, 2021 18:17:03 GMT -5
Who cares what the after the fact experts say or think? Here is my re-mock of the 2000 Draft .Tom Brady is draft by the Cleveland Browns with the first over all pick. Wow it did not change history. It’s the offseason. Time of the year when stories are slim pickings. For Gods sake, we have two threads about our Mr. Bean quarterback. you think Wirfs or Becton would have done as well as they did if they were on the NYGs? Or what if Thomas was on the Bucs as their rookie RT.
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Post by DJones19 on Feb 11, 2021 18:17:40 GMT -5
I know fans here think they know more than Mel Kiper, but he was on Rannaan’s podcast today. Projects Waddle or Pitts as targets for us at 11, but both could be gone. Says Pitts should be viewed as a receiver. The opt outs will fall in the draft so teams should get steals in the later rounds. Grades 41 receivers in the first 6 rounds, there are some talented WR’s in the second round but the top 3 are a league above the rest. Draft is deep at WR bit empty on edge rushers. Also grades Jones higher than all the QB’s except Lawrence. Still thinks Jones has a future but admits this is the year he needs to prove it. Except trying to convert Pitts into a fulltime outside X reciever will turn him into Devin Funchess Does not have outside WR speed nor the skillsets to get seperation against starting Corners...you don't see any 6'6 240 lb WRs for this reason He is an inside dynamic big bodied slot /hybrid H back playmaker than can probably block good enough in a secondary role to be a chess piece moved around all over the place for mismatches and to pull players out of the box Maybe Pitts can turn in to this guy.
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 11, 2021 18:18:56 GMT -5
Except trying to convert Pitts into a fulltime outside X reciever will turn him into Devin Funchess Does not have outside WR speed nor the skillsets to get seperation against starting Corners...you don't see any 6'6 240 lb WRs for this reason He is an inside dynamic big bodied slot /hybrid H back playmaker than can probably block good enough in a secondary role to be a chess piece moved around all over the place for mismatches and to pull players out of the box Maybe Pitts can turn in to this guy. He’s going to turn into a pentagon?
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Post by DJones19 on Feb 11, 2021 18:19:46 GMT -5
Maybe Pitts can turn in to this guy. He’s going to turn into a pentagon? Plaxico Burress 6'5-6'6 - 235lb
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 11, 2021 18:23:10 GMT -5
It’s the offseason. Time of the year when stories are slim pickings. For Gods sake, we have two threads about our Mr. Bean quarterback. you think Wirfs or Becton would have done as well as they did if they were on the NYGs? Or what if Thomas was on the Bucs as their rookie RT. Becton played on a varsity high school offense with the Jets. If his body can hold up he’s going to be great. As for Wirfs, he would have done just as well with us. Offensive line play can translate around the league. Now, the way they’re coached is something else. We had a revolving door at the position. This isn’t to discredit Thomas. But, let’s be fair when discussing those other players.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 11, 2021 18:23:52 GMT -5
"Andrew Thomas has strong second half of the year..." sneaks into first round. Logic there is really solid. At least he didn't get hip tossed by Mack lol
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 11, 2021 18:31:49 GMT -5
Wirfs is also a career RT as well,he prefers that side anyway Either way 1 year out this is stupid Wonder how far everyone's draft crush Simmons fell. The right tackle spot has become just as important as the left tackle. No shame in being a “career right tackle.” Judging off one year Wirfs and Becton have the brightest future. Thomas needs to prove a hell lot more than just a half of a season of good play. So Thomas playing on an ankle that had to be repaired surgically. and Becton already missing games with a sore knee I think he will be greta if he can stay healthy. I'm not saying Thomas is the best of them but I will take the guy who puts the team first.
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Post by DJones19 on Feb 11, 2021 18:33:23 GMT -5
Maybe Pitts can turn in to this guy. He’s going to turn into a pentagon? Looks like a spider chart that Gettleman would fall in love with. Some others prefer Waddle...I really don't care who we go with as long as they turn out good.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 11, 2021 18:39:41 GMT -5
Wirfs is also a career RT as well,he prefers that side anyway Either way 1 year out this is stupid Wonder how far everyone's draft crush Simmons fell. The right tackle spot has become just as important as the left tackle. No shame in being a “career right tackle.” Judging off one year Wirfs and Becton have the brightest future. Thomas needs to prove a hell lot more than just a half of a season of good play. We needed either side I wouldn't of had a problem with them going RT in the first at the same time I have no problem with them gong LT first we needed both and they got both jury is out but Peart showed some promise and Thomas was a man the second half.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 11, 2021 18:53:31 GMT -5
He’s going to turn into a pentagon? Plaxico Burress 6'5-6'6 - 235lb Bad equivalency Burress could run NFL caliber outside routes and even he was limited with his precision. Pitts is not an NFL outside WR and should not be attempted to be converted into one Think Marquis Coleston witb more athletic ability and hight and blocking ability for a comparison that will be bad mismatches inside and against whomever follows him outside...
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 11, 2021 18:56:25 GMT -5
He’s going to turn into a pentagon? Looks like a spider chart that Gettleman would fall in love with. Some others prefer Waddle...I really don't care who we go with as long as they turn out good. A.slug Looks like a spider chart half of BBV would fall in love with if taken day 3 and they go all defense early because that's how the Bucs beat a high powered fancy modern NFL team in the Super Bowl
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Post by GameTime on Feb 11, 2021 19:33:53 GMT -5
you think Wirfs or Becton would have done as well as they did if they were on the NYGs? Or what if Thomas was on the Bucs as their rookie RT. Becton played on a varsity high school offense with the Jets. If his body can hold up he’s going to be great. As for Wirfs, he would have done just as well with us. Offensive line play can translate around the league. Now, the way they’re coached is something else. We had a revolving door at the position. This isn’t to discredit Thomas. But, let’s be fair when discussing those other players. wasnt meaning you were discredited Thomas.
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Feb 12, 2021 2:36:04 GMT -5
Round 1 - Pick 1 Justin Herbert QB NFL DRAFT • 6'6" / 236 LBS The Offensive Rookie of the Year lands in Cincinnati. His All-Pro upside is too enticing for him not to be the top pick. Round 1 - Pick 2 Chase Young EDGE NFL DRAFT • 6'5" / 264 LBS Even with some quarterbacks on the board, the Football Team is completely content selecting Young again. Round 1 - Pick 3 Justin Jefferson WR NFL DRAFT • 6'1" / 202 LBS The Lions have to revamp the receiver corps, and they don't hesitate to pick Jefferson this early. Round 1 - Pick 4 Tristan Wirfs OL NFL DRAFT • 6'5" / 320 LBS The Giants get another opportunity to pick the best offensive tackle in the class. Round 1 - Pick 5 Joe Burrow QB NFL DRAFT • 6'4" / 221 LBS The Dolphins don't think twice about picking Burrow here. Round 1 - Pick 17 Antoine Winfield Jr. S NFL DRAFT • 5'9" / 203 LBS Winfield was a striking force in run support and as a blitzer while holding his own in coverage for the Buccaneers as a rookie. He's the type of player the Cowboys desperately need. Round 1 - Pick 21 Tee Higgins WR NFL DRAFT • 6'4" / 215 LBS The Eagles need to add receiving weaponry to their roster, and Higgins quietly had a strong rookie campaign in Cincinnati. Round 1 - Pick 32 Andrew Thomas OL NFL DRAFT • 6'5" / 315 LBS Thomas' strong play down the stretch and Kansas City's need on the offensive line is enough for the former Georgia star to sneak into Round 1. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/could-russell-wilson-be-traded-theres-one-clear-landing-spot-and-it-could-reignite-a-franchise/If Joe Burrow was available at our Pick I would have taken him.
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Post by TEM on Feb 12, 2021 8:32:20 GMT -5
Round 1 - Pick 1 Justin Herbert QB NFL DRAFT • 6'6" / 236 LBS The Offensive Rookie of the Year lands in Cincinnati. His All-Pro upside is too enticing for him not to be the top pick. Round 1 - Pick 2 Chase Young EDGE NFL DRAFT • 6'5" / 264 LBS Even with some quarterbacks on the board, the Football Team is completely content selecting Young again. Round 1 - Pick 3 Justin Jefferson WR NFL DRAFT • 6'1" / 202 LBS The Lions have to revamp the receiver corps, and they don't hesitate to pick Jefferson this early. Round 1 - Pick 4 Tristan Wirfs OL NFL DRAFT • 6'5" / 320 LBS The Giants get another opportunity to pick the best offensive tackle in the class. Round 1 - Pick 5 Joe Burrow QB NFL DRAFT • 6'4" / 221 LBS The Dolphins don't think twice about picking Burrow here. Round 1 - Pick 17 Antoine Winfield Jr. S NFL DRAFT • 5'9" / 203 LBS Winfield was a striking force in run support and as a blitzer while holding his own in coverage for the Buccaneers as a rookie. He's the type of player the Cowboys desperately need. Round 1 - Pick 21 Tee Higgins WR NFL DRAFT • 6'4" / 215 LBS The Eagles need to add receiving weaponry to their roster, and Higgins quietly had a strong rookie campaign in Cincinnati. Round 1 - Pick 32 Andrew Thomas OL NFL DRAFT • 6'5" / 315 LBS Thomas' strong play down the stretch and Kansas City's need on the offensive line is enough for the former Georgia star to sneak into Round 1. www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/could-russell-wilson-be-traded-theres-one-clear-landing-spot-and-it-could-reignite-a-franchise/If Joe Burrow was available at our Pick I would have taken him. I am just curious . Why would you draft QBs in consecutive drafts with a top 10 pick? Just say we drafted Burrow as you say and Lawrence is available with our pick this year. Would you draft him as well? At what point do you give the QB you drafted year 2 , year 3.... before you throw him in the scrap heap? Or do you just keep drafting QBs until you get a pro-bowl caliber or all pro in their rookie year?
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 12, 2021 9:03:45 GMT -5
If Joe Burrow was available at our Pick I would have taken him. I am just curious . Why would you draft QBs in consecutive drafts with a top 10 pick? Just say we drafted Burrow as you say and Lawrence is available with our pick this year. Would you draft him as well? At what point do you give the QB you drafted year 2 , year 3.... before you throw him in the scrap? heap? Or do you just keep drafting QBs until you get a pro-bowl caliber or all pro in their rookie year?That's apparently what the instant gratification crowd wants,while changing coaching staffs like underwear at the same time
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Post by Fletch842 on Feb 12, 2021 9:15:56 GMT -5
I am just curious . Why would you draft QBs in consecutive drafts with a top 10 pick? Just say we drafted Burrow as you say and Lawrence is available with our pick this year. Would you draft him as well? At what point do you give the QB you drafted year 2 , year 3.... before you throw him in the scrap? heap? Or do you just keep drafting QBs until you get a pro-bowl caliber or all pro in their rookie year?That's apparently what the instant gratification crowd wants,while changing coaching staffs like underwear at the same time keeps things new and fresh, lol.
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