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Post by JoeyCush on Mar 24, 2021 15:51:42 GMT -5
I dont know if Houston had anything to do with this. Besides the fact it could ruin the Franchise (somehow even more than currently) but if they ultimately have to trade him, they will get not nearly what they would have gotten even just a month ago.
I know we often give superstar athletes the benefit of the doubt but many of them are pretty sh*tty human beings. Is Deshaun one of them? Not sure but its not looking good for him.
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Post by JoeyCush on Mar 24, 2021 15:55:58 GMT -5
Hi Rosie, do you think an athlete could accidentally shoot an unlicensed gun in NYC today and not go to jail? I actually have no idea but I always thought the city was crazy strict. They may be but it wasn’t as if Plaxico intentionally pulled the trigger. It was an accident and one he paid for dearly while clearly being at fault. i just thought at the time that if there was a moment to cut an athlete some slack, that seemed like the time to do it. Plaxico's punishment never really sat well with me. Donte Stallworth killed somebody in Florida while driving drunk and served 24 days in jail. Different rules, different city/state sure but 2 years for accidentally shooting yourself? Meh
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 24, 2021 16:06:18 GMT -5
my problem with this whole Watson mess is why is the media allowed to publish his name but not the names of the people accusing him, at this point he is innocent but he is being treated as if he were guilty..the legal system here in Houston can be a very scary thing, repeat offender murderers are being released on bond back on the streets and commit murder again and this happens all too frequently and nothing is done to correct it so Houston can be a scary place to be put into the legal system, Watson has a good lawyer and he's going to need him, guilty or not...
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 24, 2021 16:12:13 GMT -5
They may be but it wasn’t as if Plaxico intentionally pulled the trigger. It was an accident and one he paid for dearly while clearly being at fault. i just thought at the time that if there was a moment to cut an athlete some slack, that seemed like the time to do it. Plaxico's punishment never really sat well with me. Donte Stallworth killed somebody in Florida while driving drunk and served 24 days in jail. Different rules, different city/state sure but 2 years for accidentally shooting yourself? Meh The Stallworth case was a bit more complicated. he was driving while impaired, but the accident really had nothing to do with that. He even flashed his lights to get the man to move who was evidently lying in the street.
It seems there were a lot of extenuating circumstances in that case. Of course I wasn't there, but these are things I came to understand about that case.
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Post by jb456 on Mar 24, 2021 16:16:44 GMT -5
Hi Rosie, do you think an athlete could accidentally shoot an unlicensed gun in NYC today and not go to jail? I actually have no idea but I always thought the city was crazy strict. They may be but it wasn’t as if Plaxico intentionally pulled the trigger. It was an accident and one he paid for dearly while clearly being at fault. i just thought at the time that if there was a moment to cut an athlete some slack, that seemed like the time to do it. I definitely agree and at the time I was pissed. That whole situation derailed the Giants superbowl campaign. I guess we can't really complain because I didn't spend 20 months in jail and lose out of millions in salary.
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 24, 2021 22:44:29 GMT -5
16 lawsuits being filed. He's screwed and most likely should be. This many cases is not some fabricated BS I hate to be that guy, but I sometimes am. I still think that until it gets into a real court, and we have more than statements and a lawyer, we really don't know what's what.
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 24, 2021 22:46:18 GMT -5
You know. The same way the Giants helped Plaxico when Bloomberg decided to make an example of him. I seriously doubt Bloomberg would do the same thing today given today’s racial climate. Hi Rosie, do you think an athlete could accidentally shoot an unlicensed gun in NYC today and not go to jail? I actually have no idea but I always thought the city was crazy strict. It is very strict on handguns. I think with those same circumstances, you're getting what Plax got.
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 24, 2021 22:48:43 GMT -5
Hi Rosie, do you think an athlete could accidentally shoot an unlicensed gun in NYC today and not go to jail? I actually have no idea but I always thought the city was crazy strict. They may be but it wasn’t as if Plaxico intentionally pulled the trigger. It was an accident and one he paid for dearly while clearly being at fault. i just thought at the time that if there was a moment to cut an athlete some slack, that seemed like the time to do it. I agree, I felt similarly. Bloomberg was a prick about that stuff. And big sodas and cigarettes.
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Post by JoeyCush on Mar 24, 2021 23:25:19 GMT -5
Plaxico's punishment never really sat well with me. Donte Stallworth killed somebody in Florida while driving drunk and served 24 days in jail. Different rules, different city/state sure but 2 years for accidentally shooting yourself? Meh The Stallworth case was a bit more complicated. he was driving while impaired, but the accident really had nothing to do with that. He even flashed his lights to get the man to move who was evidently lying in the street.
It seems there were a lot of extenuating circumstances in that case. Of course I wasn't there, but these are things I came to understand about that case.
Definitely more complex case than it was on the surface but for Plax, I didnt think the punishment fit the crime. Driving while over the legal limit is illegal just as carrying an unlicensed firearm (licensed in FL but not in NY) and in Stallworths case, somebody unfortunately lost their life. Plax shoots himself and not only that but loses 2 years of his life because the Mayor pushed for the book to be thrown at him, 9 months after helping bring NY/NJ a world title. Seeing an athlete do 30-60 days for an offense like that would have done the job but I dont make the rules. Its also not like shootings in NYC dropped drastically after people saw Plaxico's sentence Lol
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 31, 2021 8:29:08 GMT -5
Just heard Albert Breer of SI interview Nick Casserio on his podcast and he gave Casserio every chance to say that Watson was his starting QB and wouldn't be traded, and all Casserio would say is that the roster is "fluid" right now. Sounds like Watson will eventually be gone.
SI's article on these allegations is telling. I have no idea what actually happened, but the allegations are too numerous and too similar not to take notice. Also, Watson has only denied "forcing" anyone to do anything sexual … he hasn't denied that anything sexual occurred. Sounds like he has some type of weird fetish.
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Post by nyg2 on Mar 31, 2021 12:22:51 GMT -5
How many massage therapists does this guy have?
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Post by nyg2 on Mar 31, 2021 12:24:36 GMT -5
Just heard Albert Breer of SI interview Nick Casserio on his podcast and he gave Casserio every chance to say that Watson was his starting QB and wouldn't be traded, and all Casserio would say is that the roster is "fluid" right now. Sounds like Watson will eventually be gone. SI's article on these allegations is telling. I have no idea what actually happened, but the allegations are too numerous and too similar not to take notice. Also, Watson has only denied "forcing" anyone to do anything sexual … he hasn't denied that anything sexual occurred. Sounds like he has some type of weird fetish. Banging a massage therapist is a fetish. Never heard of that one before.
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 31, 2021 12:37:45 GMT -5
Just heard Albert Breer of SI interview Nick Casserio on his podcast and he gave Casserio every chance to say that Watson was his starting QB and wouldn't be traded, and all Casserio would say is that the roster is "fluid" right now. Sounds like Watson will eventually be gone. SI's article on these allegations is telling. I have no idea what actually happened, but the allegations are too numerous and too similar not to take notice. Also, Watson has only denied "forcing" anyone to do anything sexual … he hasn't denied that anything sexual occurred. Sounds like he has some type of weird fetish. Banging a massage therapist is a fetish. Never heard of that one before. He's not accused of banging them. Maybe educate yourself before you post … you won't look as foolish
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Post by DandyDon on Mar 31, 2021 13:09:27 GMT -5
They may be but it wasn’t as if Plaxico intentionally pulled the trigger. It was an accident and one he paid for dearly while clearly being at fault. i just thought at the time that if there was a moment to cut an athlete some slack, that seemed like the time to do it. Plaxico's punishment never really sat well with me. Donte Stallworth killed somebody in Florida while driving drunk and served 24 days in jail. Different rules, different city/state sure but 2 years for accidentally shooting yourself? Meh Gun charges are no BS in NY. There are mandatory minimums, fair or not. You have to be an idiot to stuff one down your pants in a NYC club. Doubly so when you are a rich mature athlete.
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Post by nyg2 on Mar 31, 2021 13:30:41 GMT -5
Banging a massage therapist is a fetish. Never heard of that one before. He's not accused of banging them. Maybe educate yourself before you post … you won't look as foolish It was sarcasm...lol
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 31, 2021 13:34:42 GMT -5
He's not accused of banging them. Maybe educate yourself before you post … you won't look as foolish It was sarcasm...lol Not sure you know what sarcasm means .. maybe educate yourself on that one as well.
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Post by nyg2 on Mar 31, 2021 13:44:20 GMT -5
Not sure you know what sarcasm means .. maybe educate yourself on that one as well. Ouch. Who hurt you?
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Post by JoeyCush on Mar 31, 2021 17:28:07 GMT -5
How many massage therapists does this guy have? That was honestly my first reaction to this. I'm not exactly sure claiming his 18 Vs their 21 accusers is the greatest defense for Watson. I think it was a mistake to put this out there. Somebody made a good point on Twitter. When asked why somebody would have 40+ massage therapists, someone responded saying "I would think its probably difficult to get a second appointment when you are being unprofessional and sexually harassing one of the therapists".
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Mar 31, 2021 19:54:00 GMT -5
To me the SI piece with the lady who isnt currently suing and tells a tale, supported by old texts she shared with friends and family is pretty incriminating. It’s hard to describe his actions beyond the word “Pervy” for me. Just kind of like why? Not sure if his acts are criminal but they certainly aren’t ok either.
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Post by jb456 on Mar 31, 2021 22:07:21 GMT -5
To me the SI piece with the lady who isnt currently suing and tells a tale, supported by old texts she shared with friends and family is pretty incriminating. It’s hard to describe his actions beyond the word “Pervy” for me. Just kind of like why? Not sure if his acts are criminal but they certainly aren’t ok either. If this is true and it doesn't look good. When I first heard that he had a chance to settle for 100k, I thought it could be a shakedown. With this many coming forward and not just instagram models, it seems like he has a problem. Why in the living F did he not settle if he was doing all this creepy crap? He may have crapped his career down the toilet to save $100k. He could have given them all 100k to save his reputation. He could have saved his $200M career for $100k. His lawyers are either dumb as shit, he lied to them or he didn't take their advice....
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 1, 2021 7:49:41 GMT -5
To me the SI piece with the lady who isnt currently suing and tells a tale, supported by old texts she shared with friends and family is pretty incriminating. It’s hard to describe his actions beyond the word “Pervy” for me. Just kind of like why? Not sure if his acts are criminal but they certainly aren’t ok either. If this is true and it doesn't look good. When I first heard that he had a chance to settle for 100k, I thought it could be a shakedown. With this many coming forward and not just instagram models, it seems like he has a problem. Why in the living F did he not settle if he was doing all this creepy crap? He may have crapped his career down the toilet to save $100k. He could have given them all 100k to save his reputation. He could have saved his $200M career for $100k. His lawyers are either dumb as shit, he lied to them or he didn't take their advice.... There is an awful lot of smoke now, still not sure if we have fire, but its looking like it may be on the verge of combustion.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 1, 2021 10:10:12 GMT -5
I hope this story has a happy ending .....
lol
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Post by JoeyCush on Apr 1, 2021 10:35:49 GMT -5
I hope this story has a happy ending ..... lol
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Post by snyder55 on Apr 1, 2021 15:59:15 GMT -5
too many victims all coming out at the same time, it could be true and some of it might be but it seems like an ambulance chasing Lawyer working his thing to me. If Watson is guilty it will come out but somehow this is looking like a setup to me and if so there should be some serious complications for this lawyer...
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Post by snyder55 on Apr 1, 2021 16:02:01 GMT -5
Where there is smoke... One or two could be dismissed, but 9? Young football player wants happy ending.
Who'd ever believe it besides Robert Kraft?
I love it..
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Post by snyder55 on Apr 1, 2021 16:12:30 GMT -5
this attorney is a known sleeze bag in the Houston area, another Whiplash Willie...
Are you saying all these women are lying? I'm not saying that because I don't know, but something seems suspicious ...
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Post by snyder55 on Apr 1, 2021 16:23:33 GMT -5
All civil. What strikes me is there wasn't a single hint until he didn't want to stay with the Texans then all hell broke lose, just strange . Keeping 24 women quiet all at the same time is impossible to do, it just is. The attorney is looking to have a grand injury decide if criminal charges are appropriate.
I'd say it's pretty common that once one woman comes forward, it empowers others to do so as well.
It's pretty obvious with the response from his attorney that this was an issue for him.
Maybe he would have been better served to just play football instead of pushing for a voice in front office and coaching matters?
I wonder how much of this story would have come out if Watson had just paid the money.
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