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Post by leonperry on Aug 22, 2021 9:31:56 GMT -5
The season is approaching quickly so it's the perfect time to get some predictions going. Let's get this thread bookmarked so we can all revisit after week 18. The template is simple. Passing Yards, TDs, INTs, Completion %, Rushing Yards & Rushing TDs Passing Yards: 4600 Yards Passing TDs: 36 TDs Passing INTs: 11 INTs Completion %: 63% Rushing Yards: 450 Yards Rushing TDs: 4 TDs What are your predictions? I think that we would all be thrilled withers numbers like these ...and if it came to pass like this & the D lives up to it's promise to be even better than last yr than I'll PM you to comp me some SB tix
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Post by Jomo on Aug 22, 2021 9:37:28 GMT -5
The reason why I don't see him putting up big numbers is because I expect a run heavy offense. It is hard to expect a run heavy offense with all the money we spent in FA at WR and what we did in the draft at WR. I don't think a team behaves that way to fake out their opponents.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 9:37:49 GMT -5
The reason why I don't see him putting up big numbers is because I expect a run heavy offense. We are going to be a "whatever tbe team gives us "offense ... Modern NFL offenses are pass first and if we are run heavy its unfortunate because they see things that tell us they aren't confident in Jones going foward We didn't spend 70 million on Gollidsay and spend the 20th overall pick on Tomey to be a run heavy offense
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 9:39:56 GMT -5
4250 in the air (that's 250 a game..similar to 2019 ) 31 TDs 13 ints 400 on the ground 66% completion
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 9:44:49 GMT -5
We allowed Eli to grow but we want Jones to be great year 1 week 1 lol
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Post by GameTime on Aug 22, 2021 9:48:17 GMT -5
We allowed Eli to grow but we want Jones to be great year 1 week 1 lol Its different now and its year 3 and in week one we want to see he is taking the needed steps
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 9:52:49 GMT -5
We allowed Eli to grow but we want Jones to be great year 1 week 1 lol Its different now and its year 3 and in week one we want to see he is taking the needed steps So far he's trending upward. From year one to year two his completion percentage went up.. ints & Fumbles went down all while being sacked 48 times (4th in NFL) and having less talent around.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 10:00:12 GMT -5
I would like Jones to be a game manager who is helping the team win games.. If he ever develops into a top tier QB then it's a bonus that should be expected from a player selected in the top of draft..
So far it's too many turnovers and not enough scoring..
Numbers can be very misleading when a team is always behind while the opponent goes into prevent which is why stats are very difficult to use in this sport..
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Post by GameTime on Aug 22, 2021 10:01:43 GMT -5
Its different now and its year 3 and in week one we want to see he is taking the needed steps So far he's trending upward. From year one to year two his completion percentage went up.. ints & Fumbles went down all while being sacked 48 times (4th in NFL) and having less talent around. stats are what they are. I think Jones has what it takes to be a legit franchise QB. For me his biggest hurdles are reading the field better/quicker and protecting the ball as things break down around him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 10:04:53 GMT -5
I would like Jones to be a game manager who is helping the team win games.. If he ever develops into a top tier QB then it's a bonus that should be expected from a player selected in the top of draft.. So far it's too many turnovers and not enough scoring..
Numbers can be very misleading when a team is always behind while the opponent goes into prevent which is why stats are very difficult to use in this sport.. 🤔 🤔 I'm pretty sure that's called irony
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 10:08:34 GMT -5
I would like Jones to be a game manager who is helping the team win games.. If he ever develops into a top tier QB then it's a bonus that should be expected from a player selected in the top of draft.. So far it's too many turnovers and not enough scoring..
Numbers can be very misleading when a team is always behind while the opponent goes into prevent which is why stats are very difficult to use in this sport.. 🤔 🤔 I'm pretty sure that's called irony Look who's doubling down showing that you don't really understand this sport..
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 13:54:56 GMT -5
The only problem witb this is what if they do this despite Jones to where he is relegated to basically a game manager because he hasn't taken that next step,add in his injuries,and they barely win these games playing a goober style prevent offense that can't come back from any deficit despite the O line and WRs not the problem? A 10 will season and even a playoff spot and one and done with Jones not progressing puts is square in QB hell and not nearly enough ammo to trade up for a young draft pick that would be a QB away.. no way they win 10+ despite poor QB play I know the game has changed a bit since 2011 but the Broncos made the playoffs despite Tebow..(and Elway realized this to the horror of every Gator redneck in Florida and brought in Manning,which we probably would have to do something similar if we get in like them)
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 22, 2021 14:16:49 GMT -5
We allowed Eli to grow but we want Jones to be great year 1 week 1 lol You don't remember the boards in 2004 05 06 then. The old old boards. Besides, Eli was the next great Manning. #1 pick. Much longer leash. Jones was by all means a reach pick that not many had going that early (not that it matters that much).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 14:18:21 GMT -5
We allowed Eli to grow but we want Jones to be great year 1 week 1 lol You don't remember the boards in 2004 05 06 then. The old old boards. Besides, Eli was the next great Manning. #1 pick. Much longer leash. Jones was by all means a reach pick that not many had going that early (not that it matters that much). And you have a choice to believe that narrative
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 14:37:57 GMT -5
You don't remember the boards in 2004 05 06 then. The old old boards. Besides, Eli was the next great Manning. #1 pick. Much longer leash. Jones was by all means a reach pick that not many had going that early (not that it matters that much). And you have a choice to believe that narrative The actual fact is Shurmur all but handpicked Jones because he saw him as the perfect fit for his offense Looked that way his rookie year as well...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 14:39:09 GMT -5
How do you get 0 blockers around on that smh
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 14:39:36 GMT -5
And you have a choice to believe that narrative The actual fact is Shurmur all but handpicked Jones because he saw him as the perfect fit for his offense Looked that way his rookie year as well... Maybe he's just good overall
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 14:42:03 GMT -5
The actual fact is Shurmur all but handpicked Jones because he saw him as the perfect fit for his offense Looked that way his rookie year as well... Maybe he's just good overall That too( remember I was on tbs Jones Train lats 2018 so i saw enough to like)
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 22, 2021 14:44:44 GMT -5
Did you guys get this crazy about pocket awareness when Eli fumbled 52 times along with 88 INTs in his first 6 seasons? Asking for a friend Probably not. Can’t imagine why anyone would think it constructive to compare those two players yet.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 22, 2021 14:49:25 GMT -5
We allowed Eli to grow but we want Jones to be great year 1 week 1 lol The only person I see saying that is you. If the fans were actually allowed to influence decisions this team would have been and would remain 3-13 for decades
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 22, 2021 14:51:36 GMT -5
We allowed Eli to grow but we want Jones to be great year 1 week 1 lol You don't remember the boards in 2004 05 06 then. The old old boards. Besides, Eli was the next great Manning. #1 pick. Much longer leash. Jones was by all means a reach pick that not many had going that early (not that it matters that much). In fairness, what the media thinks is not relevant.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 14:54:40 GMT -5
We allowed Eli to grow but we want Jones to be great year 1 week 1 lol The only person I see saying that is you. If the fans were actually allowed to influence decisions this team would have been and would remain 3-13 for decades Shhhhh... I got dinged for 33% warning the last time I said that because I triggered someone who felt he should be making the decisions as a part time gig to his fulltims janitor job
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 22, 2021 14:57:04 GMT -5
The only person I see saying that is you. If the fans were actually allowed to influence decisions this team would have been and would remain 3-13 for decades Shhhhh... I got dinged for 33% warning the last time I said that because I triggered someone who felt he should be making the decisions as a part time gig to his fulltims janitor job Now, now Everyone here sometimes confuses him/herself with an actual NFL personnel guy.
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Post by wtfjjk on Aug 22, 2021 15:23:25 GMT -5
The reason why I don't see him putting up big numbers is because I expect a run heavy offense. It is hard to expect a run heavy offense with all the money we spent in FA at WR and what we did in the draft at WR. I don't think a team behaves that way to fake out their opponents. We have a lot invested in run offense maulers who are weak on pass pro. We are also heavily invested in arguably the best RB in the game.
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Post by wtfjjk on Aug 22, 2021 15:24:59 GMT -5
The reason why I don't see him putting up big numbers is because I expect a run heavy offense. We are going to be a "whatever tbe team gives us "offense ... Modern NFL offenses are pass first and if we are run heavy its unfortunate because they see things that tell us they aren't confident in Jones going foward We didn't spend 70 million on Gollidsay and spend the 20th overall pick on Tomey to be a run heavy offense I bet you what the defense gives us is 8 in the box. Then we can see what he's made of.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 15:26:02 GMT -5
It is hard to expect a run heavy offense with all the money we spent in FA at WR and what we did in the draft at WR. I don't think a team behaves that way to fake out their opponents. We have a lot invested in run offense maulers who are weak on pass pro. We are also heavily invested in arguably the best RB in the game. But that still doesn't change the fact that they invested in a ton of weapons to be able to have a modern explosive air attack and to be able to get a full idea what Jones is. They didn't do all this to make their 6th overall pick a game manager Game managers don't win championships
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 15:28:05 GMT -5
We are going to be a "whatever tbe team gives us "offense ... Modern NFL offenses are pass first and if we are run heavy its unfortunate because they see things that tell us they aren't confident in Jones going foward We didn't spend 70 million on Gollidsay and spend the 20th overall pick on Tomey to be a run heavy offense I bet you what the defense gives us is 8 in the box. Then we can see what he's made of. Which means we need to throw it to put the feat factor into defenses to have to defend the entire field It's a pass to set up the run league ans even the run heavy teams do this
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Post by wtfjjk on Aug 22, 2021 15:35:57 GMT -5
We have a lot invested in run offense maulers who are weak on pass pro. We are also heavily invested in arguably the best RB in the game. But that still doesn't change the fact that they invested in a ton of weapons to be able to have a modern explosive air attack and to be able to get a full idea what Jones is. They didn't do all this to make their 6th overall pick a game manager Game managers don't win championships What is that saying? Everyone has a gameplan until you get hit in the face? A few punches to the face and this will be a Saquon led offense. It's just a hunch though. I hope I am dead wrong and he's Eli part deux but I don't see the same gamebreaker in Jones that I did when Eli was young and struggling.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 22, 2021 15:39:14 GMT -5
But that still doesn't change the fact that they invested in a ton of weapons to be able to have a modern explosive air attack and to be able to get a full idea what Jones is. They didn't do all this to make their 6th overall pick a game manager Game managers don't win championships What is that saying? Everyone has a gameplan until you get hit in the face? A few punches to the face and this will be a Saquon led offense. It's just a hunch though. I hope I am dead wrong and he's Eli part deux but I don't see the same gamebreaker in Jones that I did when Eli was young and struggling. Agree to disagree about Jones not being the answer until he shows he isn't the answer But if we have to resort to a goober style game manager hide the qb style offense because the worst fears do happen witb Jones we probably write off 2021 as another development year while we figure out how to get a franchise qb because we aren't winning Jack shit otherwise
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Post by TheAnalyst on Aug 26, 2021 8:49:15 GMT -5
Hypothetically, if Jones struggles this year to a point where he looks like last year, even with weapons, are you guys ok with looking for a QB next year in the draft or FA?
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