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Post by FBomb on Dec 2, 2021 22:02:43 GMT -5
Now, bear in mind, I learned all I know about trading from Draft Day. So, if this is crazy, blame Kevin Costner.
If we are going to use one of our picks on this QB class AND we are looking to shed weight....how about a #1, Jones and Barkley for Trevor Lawrence? Are you kidding me? That hair in NY?? Come on. I would even throw in EE to sweeten the pot.
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Post by FBomb on Dec 2, 2021 22:19:33 GMT -5
Also, I probably shouldn't have drank all that cough syrup.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 2, 2021 22:26:59 GMT -5
Well, Jones and Barkley are headed toward two significant paydays so that price tag combined might flirt with $40 million per for two so/so players. Add in a #1 and that’s nice
Lawrence is at a minimal cost for 3 more years and then the 5th year option. Plus, his upside is greater than the players traded.
I’ll take it as a Giants fan
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Post by FBomb on Dec 2, 2021 22:31:10 GMT -5
Well, Jones and Barkley are headed toward two significant paydays so that price tag combined might flirt with $40 million per for two so/so players. Add in a #1 and that’s nice Lawrence is at a minimal cost for 3 more years and then the 5th year option. Plus, his upside is greater than the players traded. I’ll take it as a Giants fan I'm also hoping the Jags are as crazy as it seems
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 2, 2021 22:54:35 GMT -5
Jags would not do that in a million years. Think about what they get. An oft injured RB (undrafted RB James Robinson is better) and QB who is still questionable as a starter. And a 1st rounder that might be pick 7 or 8?
Trevor Lawrence is still one of the best young QBs in the game despite the stats. Jags just suck.
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Post by FBomb on Dec 2, 2021 22:58:52 GMT -5
Jags would not do that in a million years. Think about what they get. An oft injured RB (undrafted RB James Robinson is better) and QB who is still questionable as a starter. And a 1st rounder that might be pick 7 or 8? Trevor Lawrence is still one of the best young QBs in the game despite the stats. Jags just suck. You mean despite having 9 TDs and 10 int so far? With a better run game?.....hmmmmm
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Post by Martin on Dec 2, 2021 22:59:47 GMT -5
I would take that trade but the Jags won't. No, the Giants are sitting in a hot bowl of schitt!
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Post by Eazy E on Dec 2, 2021 23:06:51 GMT -5
More like for Russell Wilson. Throw in Dexter Lawrence, and a 1st. Multiple potential contracts that can either be extended or passed on. Before anybody shoots it down, we got rid of OBJ, JPP, Olivier Vernon, etc. Anything is possible. Heck somebody might even bite on Golladay. You never know. Some teams do some dumb things.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 2, 2021 23:10:01 GMT -5
Jags would not do that in a million years. Think about what they get. An oft injured RB (undrafted RB James Robinson is better) and QB who is still questionable as a starter. And a 1st rounder that might be pick 7 or 8? Trevor Lawrence is still one of the best young QBs in the game despite the stats. Jags just suck. You mean despite having 9 TDs and 10 int so far? With a better run game?.....hmmmmm Yes. The Jags are awful. Their OL is worse than ours. Their WRs are worse than ours. I've watched a few of their games this year. They are pathetic around a rookie QB. There is no a doubt in my mind if he was on the Pats, he would be crushing it.
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Post by FBomb on Dec 2, 2021 23:11:19 GMT -5
You mean despite having 9 TDs and 10 int so far? With a better run game?.....hmmmmm Yes. The Jags are awful. Their OL is worse than ours. Their WRs are worse than ours. I've watched a few of their games this year. They are pathetic around a rookie QB. There is no a doubt in my mind if he was on the Pats, he would be crushing it. So..."excuses" then?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 2, 2021 23:14:21 GMT -5
Yes. The Jags are awful. Their OL is worse than ours. Their WRs are worse than ours. I've watched a few of their games this year. They are pathetic around a rookie QB. There is no a doubt in my mind if he was on the Pats, he would be crushing it. So...excuses then? All I will say is if you can bare it, watch a Jags game in its entirety. Unlike our 3rd year QB, Lawrence doesn't stare down WRs he throws to. Sure he makes rookie mistakes, but the talent is undoubtedly there to be a great QB with the right supporting cast. No way the Jags are dumb enough to make this trade.
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Post by FBomb on Dec 2, 2021 23:16:22 GMT -5
All I will say is if you can bare it, watch a Jags game in its entirety. Unlike our 3rd year QB, Lawrence doesn't stare down WRs he throws to. Sure he makes rookie mistakes, but the talent us undoubtedly there to be a great QB with the right supporting cast. So, he needs better players surrounding him to play well?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 2, 2021 23:28:04 GMT -5
All I will say is if you can bare it, watch a Jags game in its entirety. Unlike our 3rd year QB, Lawrence doesn't stare down WRs he throws to. Sure he makes rookie mistakes, but the talent us undoubtedly there to be a great QB with the right supporting cast. So, he needs better players surrounding him to play well? Obviously it would help. And coaches more importantly. But he is a rookie and his experience will help as well. I find it amazing you think the Jags would make that trade or even think about it.
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Post by hogmollies on Dec 2, 2021 23:36:10 GMT -5
So, he needs better players surrounding him to play well? Obviously it would help. And coaches more importantly. But he is a rookie and his experience will help as well. I find it amazing you think the Jags would make that trade or even think about it. If the Jags were even considering a Trevor for DJ swap (including Barkley) we'd have to give up our 2 first rounders to make it happen plus 2 future 1sts. No way.
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Post by FBomb on Dec 2, 2021 23:36:40 GMT -5
So, he needs better players surrounding him to play well? Obviously it would help. And coaches more importantly. But he is a rookie and his experience will help as well. I find it amazing you think the Jags would make that trade or even think about it. Yeah....that wasn't really the point of this thread.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 2, 2021 23:38:21 GMT -5
Obviously it would help. And coaches more importantly. But he is a rookie and his experience will help as well. I find it amazing you think the Jags would make that trade or even think about it. Yeah....that wasn't really the point of this thread. cough syrup
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 2, 2021 23:42:33 GMT -5
Obviously it would help. And coaches more importantly. But he is a rookie and his experience will help as well. I find it amazing you think the Jags would make that trade or even think about it. Yeah....that wasn't really the point of this thread. ? Huh? That's the entirety of what the thread is about.
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Post by FBomb on Dec 2, 2021 23:42:38 GMT -5
Yeah....that wasn't really the point of this thread. cough syrup It wasn't. It's all going to click soon.
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Post by FBomb on Dec 2, 2021 23:45:48 GMT -5
Yeah....that wasn't really the point of this thread. ? Huh? That's the entirety of what the thread is about. That was a ruse.
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Post by mendy on Dec 3, 2021 6:49:21 GMT -5
Now, bear in mind, I learned all I know about trading from Draft Day. So, if this is crazy, blame Kevin Costner. If we are going to use one of our picks on this QB class AND we are looking to shed weight....how about a #1, Jones and Barkley for Trevor Lawrence? Are you kidding me? That hair in NY?? Come on. I would even throw in EE to sweeten the pot. A #1 , Jones ,EE for Justin Herbert of the Chargers . "come on ....you pancake eating mother"..............
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 3, 2021 7:04:17 GMT -5
Now, bear in mind, I learned all I know about trading from Draft Day. So, if this is crazy, blame Kevin Costner. If we are going to use one of our picks on this QB class AND we are looking to shed weight....how about a #1, Jones and Barkley for Trevor Lawrence? Are you kidding me? That hair in NY?? Come on. I would even throw in EE to sweeten the pot. A #1 , Jones ,EE for Justin Herbert of the Chargers . "come on ....you pancake eating mother".............. Herbert ended up in a great situation Lawrence ended up in a worse situation than us,he litterally looks like our generation's Archie Manning
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Post by FBomb on Dec 3, 2021 7:28:07 GMT -5
Wow...late night thread creating after taking prescription drugs.
I think the point of this thread was people who call DJs obstacles excuses will use them to defend other QBs.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 3, 2021 7:34:29 GMT -5
Wow...late night thread creating after taking prescription drugs. I think the point of this thread was people who call DJs obstacles excuses will use them to defend other QBs. Strange huh Also the point of this thread is to show that using major resources right now to upgrade the qb position would only put another qb in a horrible situation because said resources (and possible cap crushing salary )would still not improve the team much if any because we don't have those resources to improve the areas we STILL need a huge influx of talent at (pass rush and O line )
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Post by FBomb on Dec 3, 2021 7:41:12 GMT -5
Cool. I'm glad someone coukd make sense of this drug induced word maze.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Dec 3, 2021 7:41:47 GMT -5
I have to admit, I'm not a believer in Trevor Lawrence, I never have been. I don't know why, and I'm probably wrong lol.
A friend of mine whose opinion on football I respect more than anyone I've ever met, for a number of valid reasons, flat out said he will be a bust.
He's probably wrong too...I guess we will see.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 3, 2021 7:44:19 GMT -5
Wow...late night thread creating after taking prescription drugs. I think the point of this thread was people who call DJs obstacles excuses will use them to defend other QBs. a few modern day members post from 6am through 2am. Sharing
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 3, 2021 7:46:19 GMT -5
I have to admit, I'm not a believer in Trevor Lawrence, I never have been. I don't know why, and I'm probably wrong lol. A friend of mine whose opinion on football I respect more than anyone I've ever met, for a number of valid reasons, flat out said he will be a bust. Why? What do you not see in him?
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Post by coughlinscorner on Dec 3, 2021 8:40:39 GMT -5
Now, bear in mind, I learned all I know about trading from Draft Day. So, if this is crazy, blame Kevin Costner. If we are going to use one of our picks on this QB class AND we are looking to shed weight....how about a #1, Jones and Barkley for Trevor Lawrence? Are you kidding me? That hair in NY?? Come on. I would even throw in EE to sweeten the pot. Throw in a lap dance and Urban would probably make the deal.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 3, 2021 8:41:21 GMT -5
Now, bear in mind, I learned all I know about trading from Draft Day. So, if this is crazy, blame Kevin Costner. If we are going to use one of our picks on this QB class AND we are looking to shed weight....how about a #1, Jones and Barkley for Trevor Lawrence? Are you kidding me? That hair in NY?? Come on. I would even throw in EE to sweeten the pot. Throw in a lap dance and Urban would probably make the deal. Hee hee
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 3, 2021 8:58:52 GMT -5
Wow...late night thread creating after taking prescription drugs. I think the point of this thread was people who call DJs obstacles excuses will use them to defend other QBs. Big difference IMO Daniel Jones - 3rd year QB making rookie mistakes Trevor Lawrence - Rookie making rookie mistakes If Trevor looks as bad as DJ in year 3, then we can have this conversation. Daniel Jones looks to be like Sam Darnold or Johnathan Goff. Just not that good. End up a backup somewhere else. I cant say the same for Lawrence yet. Too early.
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