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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 5, 2021 16:10:09 GMT -5
Watch the Giants postgame show. Shines a light on how bad Joe judge is We have heard the same B.S. I need to look at the tape. We keep fighting we play hard…. We don’t make excuses letting you know to look beyond his bad coaching
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Post by Martin on Dec 5, 2021 16:10:28 GMT -5
Our offense (other than Thomas) seem like a bunch of limp dick incel cucks. I at least hope they're embarrassed after games like these Engram came to play. Everyone else needs to be kicked in the balls repeatedly. Engram did have a good game today. I have been very harsh on the guy but he deserves praise.
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Post by houndstoothhat on Dec 5, 2021 16:10:35 GMT -5
This team was never of championship caliber but even in the 70’s they were not this poor. What’s up Mara?
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 16:10:55 GMT -5
Have they The starting offense was supposed to be Thomas,Lemieux,Gates,Hernandez,Solder/Thomas.. Golladay/Shep/toney/Slayton is a formidable 4 some.... When have we had even half of this? It’s nonstop excuses. The offense is literally never good. Also, what nfl is fully healthy? It’s not like they’re crippled, they’re flat out terrible even when healthy. You didn't answer the question When has this team even been half healthy on offense (which includes no lingering things) Once...Saints game .... And...
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 16:11:31 GMT -5
Engram came to play. Everyone else needs to be kicked in the balls repeatedly. Engram did have a good game today. I have been very harsh on the guy but he deserves praise. and Thomas ...
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Post by gmen21 on Dec 5, 2021 16:12:34 GMT -5
It’s nonstop excuses. The offense is literally never good. Also, what nfl is fully healthy? It’s not like they’re crippled, they’re flat out terrible even when healthy. You didn't answer the question When has this team even been half healthy on offense (which includes no lingering things) Once...Saints game .... And... I didn’t know it was a question! But yeah we’re not healthy. 😂 The first excuse for the offense sucking was Jason Garret, now it’s the injuries
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Post by giantsalmon on Dec 5, 2021 16:15:34 GMT -5
Some great effort by guys on defense. Congrats to the Lions--they play hard.
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 5, 2021 16:15:49 GMT -5
It’s nonstop excuses. The offense is literally never good. Also, what nfl is fully healthy? It’s not like they’re crippled, they’re flat out terrible even when healthy. You didn't answer the question When has this team even been half healthy on offense (which includes no lingering things) Once...Saints game .... And... Didn’t the team have 10 points until mid-way through the 4th quarter of the Saints game?
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Post by myronguyton on Dec 5, 2021 16:16:08 GMT -5
I know Garrett was bad but I think Jones sucks it looks about the same with Glennon except with less accurate passes. I don’t think the blame should go on any of these quarterbacks given the state of the offensive line, that provides absolutely no protection or holes in the running game. A QB could not be put in a worse environment especially given that they can’t seem to scheme any plays either. The pressure these QBs are under and with no help from receivers with their dropped passes is incredible. We should spend all of next year’s draft on O-line, exclusively. Because as these past five years have proven, you’re going nowhere without a good O-line. The oline sucks, but this excuse is getting old. There were a number of plays today where Glennon had all day to throw and he either misfired, didn't find the open receiver, or no one got open. Point is, I've seen worse olines on offenses that have been way more productive than ours. We're not getting good enough play at quarterback.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 16:17:45 GMT -5
You didn't answer the question When has this team even been half healthy on offense (which includes no lingering things) Once...Saints game .... And... I didn’t know it was a question! But yeah we’re not healthy. 😂 The first excuse for the offense sucking was Jason Garret, now it’s the injuries The injuries have been season long Garrett's huge issue was stagnant one size fits all schemes no matter who the receivers were. Kitchens is already an improvement if you watch things besides how the play ends up Kitchens running a bunch of mesh type patterns to scheme guys open,Garrett didn't do any of this (Ross was wide open on that one bad pass,Jones hits that throws 99.9% of the time in that situation and on target for Ross to get a lot more post catch) More screens and play designs to get playmakers in space with the ball in their hands Problem is that many of these plays are designed for guys that have been in street clothing the past 2 weeks.... Barkley has become the 2021 Enigma unfortunately as he has had a lot of things schemed for him and he has not taken advantage..
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 16:18:29 GMT -5
You didn't answer the question When has this team even been half healthy on offense (which includes no lingering things) Once...Saints game .... And... Didn’t the team have 10 points until mid-way through the 4th quarter of the Saints game? And then they took off..... Dunno what got in the water but boom
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Post by gmen21 on Dec 5, 2021 16:19:03 GMT -5
You didn't answer the question When has this team even been half healthy on offense (which includes no lingering things) Once...Saints game .... And... Didn’t the team have 10 points until mid-way through the 4th quarter of the Saints game? Yes. It was a juggernaut performance. The offense has scored 3 tds in the last 4 games. It’s the “injuries” though…lol
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 5, 2021 16:20:19 GMT -5
Didn’t the team have 10 points until mid-way through the 4th quarter of the Saints game? And then they took off..... Dunno what got in the water but boom Took off? They scored 21 points in regulation
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 16:21:02 GMT -5
I don’t think the blame should go on any of these quarterbacks given the state of the offensive line, that provides absolutely no protection or holes in the running game. A QB could not be put in a worse environment especially given that they can’t seem to scheme any plays either. The pressure these QBs are under and with no help from receivers with their dropped passes is incredible. We should spend all of next year’s draft on O-line, exclusively. Because as these past five years have proven, you’re going nowhere without a good O-line. The oline sucks, but this excuse is getting old. There were a number of plays today where Glennon had all day to throw and he either misfired, didn't find the open receiver, or no one got open. Point is, I've seen worse olines on offenses that have been way more productive than ours. We're not getting good enough play at quarterback. This is a game where if Jones was in we probably win and the offense looks better.. Lots of inaccurate passes Jones usually hits. Also we lost his run threat,no RPO.. That 2nd sack on Glennon when he held it for over 5 seconds there were nice running lanes Jones would have taken advantage of...
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 5, 2021 16:22:25 GMT -5
I didn’t know it was a question! But yeah we’re not healthy. 😂 The first excuse for the offense sucking was Jason Garret, now it’s the injuries The injuries have been season long Garrett's huge issue was stagnant one size fits all schemes no matter who the receivers were. Kitchens is already an improvement if you watch things besides how the play ends up Kitchens running a bunch of mesh type patterns to scheme guys open,Garrett didn't do any of this (Ross was wide open on that one bad pass,Jones hits that throws 99.9% of the time in that situation and on target for Ross to get a lot more post catch) More screens and play designs to get playmakers in space with the ball in their hands Problem is that many of these plays are designed for guys that have been in street clothing the past 2 weeks.... Barkley has become the 2021 Enigma unfortunately as he has had a lot of things schemed for him and he has not taken advantage.. unfortunately, our execution still sucks ass.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 16:23:02 GMT -5
The injuries have been season long Garrett's huge issue was stagnant one size fits all schemes no matter who the receivers were. Kitchens is already an improvement if you watch things besides how the play ends up Kitchens running a bunch of mesh type patterns to scheme guys open,Garrett didn't do any of this (Ross was wide open on that one bad pass,Jones hits that throws 99.9% of the time in that situation and on target for Ross to get a lot more post catch) More screens and play designs to get playmakers in space with the ball in their hands Problem is that many of these plays are designed for guys that have been in street clothing the past 2 weeks.... Barkley has become the 2021 Enigma unfortunately as he has had a lot of things schemed for him and he has not taken advantage.. unfortunately, our execution still sucks ass. Starts up front,especially the right side..
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 5, 2021 16:23:16 GMT -5
Injuries…blah blah blah! Even when healthy this offense sucks Have they The starting offense was supposed to be Thomas,Lemieux,Gates,Hernandez,Solder/Thomas.. Golladay/Shep/toney/Slayton is a formidable 4 some.... When have we had even half of this? One thing gave me maybe a glimmer of hope this week Kitchens got guys in open spaces either the OL and or Glennon just couldn't deliver, for me I thought it was Glennon he started off good tailed right off. the OL was better then usual.
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Post by mj312 on Dec 5, 2021 16:23:46 GMT -5
Who is Joe Judges next scapegoat firing? If I was Judge I’d fire myself just to get away from this embarrassment .. I can’t believe this is the Ny Giants
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 16:24:38 GMT -5
And then they took off..... Dunno what got in the water but boom Took off? They scored 21 points in regulation They also moved the ball up and down the field once Garrett decided to stop running it up the middle every 1st and 10 under center and in a tight formation.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 16:25:45 GMT -5
Have they The starting offense was supposed to be Thomas,Lemieux,Gates,Hernandez,Solder/Thomas.. Golladay/Shep/toney/Slayton is a formidable 4 some.... When have we had even half of this? One thing gave me maybe a glimmer of hope this week Kitchens got guys in open spaces either the OL and or Glennon just couldn't deliver, for me I thought it was Glennon he started off good tailed right off. the OL was better then usual. Lots of open receivers in space... Right side of O line makes it impossible to use entire playbook
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Post by mj312 on Dec 5, 2021 16:28:00 GMT -5
My favorite post in this thread is "if Jones were playing, we would have 13 points." LOL, picking between Jones and Glennon is like picking either the electric chair or lethal injection. This team is absolutely hopeless on offense. Adding these receivers is like putting new rims on a Ford pinto. There’s nothing even close to electric chair about either one of them .. it’s more like choosing a death penalty by getting pecked to death by small birds or getting paper cuts till you bleed out .. they are both torture .
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Post by gmen21 on Dec 5, 2021 16:29:32 GMT -5
Who is Joe Judges next scapegoat firing? If I was Judge I’d fire myself just to get away from this embarrassment .. I can’t believe this is the Ny Giants Yeah man, this is pretty bad.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Dec 5, 2021 16:30:07 GMT -5
This team was never of championship caliber but even in the 70’s they were not this poor. What’s up Mara? This offense does not feel anywhere near as bad as they felt in the Joe Pisarcik years. The Fumble still makes me shake my head.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 5, 2021 16:30:08 GMT -5
I didn’t know it was a question! But yeah we’re not healthy. 😂 The first excuse for the offense sucking was Jason Garret, now it’s the injuries The injuries have been season long Garrett's huge issue was stagnant one size fits all schemes no matter who the receivers were. Kitchens is already an improvement if you watch things besides how the play ends up Kitchens running a bunch of mesh type patterns to scheme guys open,Garrett didn't do any of this (Ross was wide open on that one bad pass,Jones hits that throws 99.9% of the time in that situation and on target for Ross to get a lot more post catch) More screens and play designs to get playmakers in space with the ball in their hands Problem is that many of these plays are designed for guys that have been in street clothing the past 2 weeks.... Barkley has become the 2021 Enigma unfortunately as he has had a lot of things schemed for him and he has not taken advantage.. Agree 1st problem and fact is this team hadn't been healthy from the jump. Johnston on the broadcast said now that the OL was getting healthy it's like they aren't 2 starters aren't coming back and Solder should be considered a back up filling in.
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Post by yoho on Dec 5, 2021 16:31:12 GMT -5
I don’t think the blame should go on any of these quarterbacks given the state of the offensive line, that provides absolutely no protection or holes in the running game. A QB could not be put in a worse environment especially given that they can’t seem to scheme any plays either. The pressure these QBs are under and with no help from receivers with their dropped passes is incredible. We should spend all of next year’s draft on O-line, exclusively. Because as these past five years have proven, you’re going nowhere without a good O-line. The oline sucks, but this excuse is getting old. There were a number of plays today where Glennon had all day to throw and he either misfired, didn't find the open receiver, or no one got open. Point is, I've seen worse olines on offenses that have been way more productive than ours. We're not getting good enough play at quarterback. I get it Glennon or Jones are not great QBs, but if you have a running game, it makes it a lot easier to get receivers open in the intermediate passing game, and if they could protect, deeper pass plays could develop. Many of the throws today, as is typical these days were under duress.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Dec 5, 2021 16:33:42 GMT -5
It’s nonstop excuses. The offense is literally never good. Also, what nfl is fully healthy? It’s not like they’re crippled, they’re flat out terrible even when healthy. You didn't answer the question When has this team even been half healthy on offense (which includes no lingering things) Once...Saints game .... And... You are 100% right about the injuries but I think you may be overrating KG, Lemieux, and Solder. We miss Gates. We miss Sheppard. We miss KT. I just do not think our wr were nearly as good as you think even when healthy. I think if healthy our Oline was still in the lower 3rd of the league. I think if healthy our receivers were still middle of the pack at best.
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Post by yoho on Dec 5, 2021 16:33:59 GMT -5
Have they The starting offense was supposed to be Thomas,Lemieux,Gates,Hernandez,Solder/Thomas.. Golladay/Shep/toney/Slayton is a formidable 4 some.... When have we had even half of this? One thing gave me maybe a glimmer of hope this week Kitchens got guys in open spaces either the OL and or Glennon just couldn't deliver, for me I thought it was Glennon he started off good tailed right off. the OL was better then usual. I don’t know what O-line you are watching, but I saw no push, running backs getting met in the backfield, and a QB under constant duress.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 16:34:36 GMT -5
The oline sucks, but this excuse is getting old. There were a number of plays today where Glennon had all day to throw and he either misfired, didn't find the open receiver, or no one got open. Point is, I've seen worse olines on offenses that have been way more productive than ours. We're not getting good enough play at quarterback. I get it Glennon or Jones are not great QBs, but if you have a running game, it makes it a lot easier to get receivers open in the intermediate passing game, and if they could protect, deeper pass plays could develop. Many of the throws today, as is typical these days were under duress. Modern offenses have playmakers that can threaten every blade of grass which opens everything up,and at least an average O line.. When you can't even run it into a 6 man box and your backs have one or 2 guys staring them down in their gaps it defeats all of this .... We can't even run against light boxes.......
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 5, 2021 16:35:51 GMT -5
One thing gave me maybe a glimmer of hope this week Kitchens got guys in open spaces either the OL and or Glennon just couldn't deliver, for me I thought it was Glennon he started off good tailed right off. the OL was better then usual. I don’t know what O-line you are watching, but I saw no push, running backs getting met in the backfield, and a QB under constant duress. Teams are giving us the run even witb Barkley....that is a horrific indictment on the o line....
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 5, 2021 16:36:45 GMT -5
One thing gave me maybe a glimmer of hope this week Kitchens got guys in open spaces either the OL and or Glennon just couldn't deliver, for me I thought it was Glennon he started off good tailed right off. the OL was better then usual. Lots of open receivers in space... Right side of O line makes it impossible to use entire playbook Think the Giants still have a lot of work do on the offensive side of the ball in the trenches and should invest in another playmaker probably at TE. the Washington gam they were on their way to an easy 34 to 41 points, the wheels keep falling of with dumb mistakes both penalty and assignment football.
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