te88
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Post by te88 on Dec 15, 2021 22:02:28 GMT -5
We call out Mara here every other thread. We know of his meddling and lay the entire demise of the Giants at his feet. The problem is, he's the owner and there isn't anything we as fans can do about it. He has to recognize that he is at fault instead of all the GMs and HCs he brings in or fires. Just my opinion, the Mara’s didn’t want to fire Reese, McAdoo, or Garrett when they did. I have no evidence of it other than stories of those hires being greatly favoured by ownership and that the Giants signal all the time that the see mid season firings as panicked management. It certainly doesn’t make any strategic sense to fire mid season other than virtue signalling that they hear the outcry. The more fans talk about how the Mara’s stepping back could help the franchise, the higher the probability it works. Other than supporting the Coughlin hire (who we certainly can’t call a beloved coach like Parcells) John Mara has literally no success hiring a GM or HC. This breaks down to a probability argument for me. Does Mara hire a winner before he realizes he can’t? I think he comes to his senses before he hires a winner. Pfffft I wouldn’t even give him that. Coughlin was Wellingtons guy. Everyone else at the time including Ernie was vehemently against it.
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Post by cdngfan on Dec 15, 2021 22:40:33 GMT -5
Just my opinion, the Mara’s didn’t want to fire Reese, McAdoo, or Garrett when they did. I have no evidence of it other than stories of those hires being greatly favoured by ownership and that the Giants signal all the time that the see mid season firings as panicked management. It certainly doesn’t make any strategic sense to fire mid season other than virtue signalling that they hear the outcry. The more fans talk about how the Mara’s stepping back could help the franchise, the higher the probability it works. Other than supporting the Coughlin hire (who we certainly can’t call a beloved coach like Parcells) John Mara has literally no success hiring a GM or HC. This breaks down to a probability argument for me. Does Mara hire a winner before he realizes he can’t? I think he comes to his senses before he hires a winner. Pfffft I wouldn’t even give him that. Coughlin was Wellingtons guy. Everyone else at the time including Ernie was vehemently against it. I feel the same way but I know I’m biased. I read an article where Ernie was insistent that coughlin was his and John’s choice. Trying to balance my opinion by giving him the benefit of that hire.
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Post by Martin on Dec 15, 2021 22:44:08 GMT -5
I know in theory that's the case but this Giants organization seems to run ass backwards so I don't know what real authority a Giants GM really has to make big personnel changes.
I should have said that "of course the GM can remove any scout not related to the Mara's or Tisch's."
LOL! yes we need to be specific.
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 15, 2021 23:23:52 GMT -5
We call out Mara here every other thread. We know of his meddling and lay the entire demise of the Giants at his feet. The problem is, he's the owner and there isn't anything we as fans can do about it. He has to recognize that he is at fault instead of all the GMs and HCs he brings in or fires. Just my opinion, the Mara’s didn’t want to fire Reese, McAdoo, or Garrett when they did. I have no evidence of it other than stories of those hires being greatly favoured by ownership and that the Giants signal all the time that the see mid season firings as panicked management. It certainly doesn’t make any strategic sense to fire mid season other than virtue signalling that they hear the outcry. The more fans talk about how the Mara’s stepping back could help the franchise, the higher the probability it works. Other than supporting the Coughlin hire (who we certainly can’t call a beloved coach like Parcells) John Mara has literally no success hiring a GM or HC. This breaks down to a probability argument for me. Does Mara hire a winner before he realizes he can’t? I think he comes to his senses before he hires a winner. From your keyboard to God's ears.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 16, 2021 0:14:48 GMT -5
Pfffft I wouldn’t even give him that. Coughlin was Wellingtons guy. Everyone else at the time including Ernie was vehemently against it. I feel the same way but I know I’m biased. I read an article where Ernie was insistent that coughlin was his and John’s choice. Trying to balance my opinion by giving him the benefit of that hire. I had heard Acorsi actually wanted Saban
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Post by mendy on Dec 16, 2021 4:29:00 GMT -5
Hire Urban Meyer thread in ...3,2,1................
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 16, 2021 7:11:45 GMT -5
Hire Urban Meyer thread in ...3,2,1................ lol, you beat me to it!! Can you imagine!!
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