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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 28, 2022 19:52:32 GMT -5
Can we revisit the premise of this thread? We can but we might be getting third degree burns from the hot take. Incoming OP that hates the word hot take even though it's the epitome of one
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 29, 2022 9:21:07 GMT -5
I like Webb. Always have. I think there is a very good chance he sees the field this season. Yeah, he’ll see the field from the stands.
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Post by scoostraw on Aug 29, 2022 9:23:29 GMT -5
Don't be so sure.
The 2 QBs ahead of him on the depth chart are not made of rubber like Eli was.
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 29, 2022 9:34:25 GMT -5
Don't be so sure. The 2 QBs ahead of him on the depth chart are not made of rubber like Eli was. The offensive line, and wide receiver positions have been ravaged by injuries so far. Those two positions need able bodies for the long grueling season. Granted, Jones is an injury waiting to happen. And Taylor is still looking for his pelvis after that hit. However, depending on Taylor’s injury. We need most of our resources in those two positions.
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Post by cdngfan on Aug 29, 2022 10:10:48 GMT -5
Honestly its been difficult to gauge this team up to this point. D. Jones for sure has more potential then TT but only time will tell. Meaning you got to play him to see where your future will be. TT can make plays but he's not the future and would be the road to picking a QB in the next draft. I will say this, the team overall looks respectable as a functioning team based on me watching the last 5 years of Giants preseason. It seems a little different in terms of coaching, play calling and players in the right position. We've all been down this road before so we get ready to rumble. Let the regular season begin! Word for word my thoughts. I don’t know if it translates into more wins immediately. It should. Regardless it’s clearly different. So many years watching the offense in the preseason look like it literally can’t function at all. And hanging onto “it’s just preseason” but seeing identical play in the regular season. This is different. The play calling is different. It just “feels” different. You see skills now. Players that situationally get the ball have a chance to demonstrate something. There is a huge lack of talent that runs through this team like the marbling in ice cream. Touches almost every position group. So I’m under no “9 win” delusion. Can they over deliver? Absolutely. But 6 wins won’t mean this isn’t working.
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Post by miggs on Aug 29, 2022 14:32:44 GMT -5
The titled of this thread is starting to look humorous.
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Post by DJones19 on Aug 29, 2022 14:43:07 GMT -5
The titled of this thread is starting to look humorous. Well...The NFL Network said Tyrod was "playing well" before the injury. His stats going into that play were 1 for 3 with an INT. They also said Jones led the league in fumbles last year which is completed false...he had 7, 3 lost... Dak Prescott had 14. Jones is far from perfect - might be his last year wearing blue but was 2nd to last in fumbles - he he started all 17 games he'd be somewhere in the middle. If I only watched analysis on the NFL Network and not the games I feel I'd have a completely different opinion on most things.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 14:55:41 GMT -5
But, are either of these guys as good as...Carson Strong?
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Post by GameTime on Aug 29, 2022 14:57:27 GMT -5
But, are either of these guys as good as...Carson Strong? he is in the open market!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 15:00:07 GMT -5
But, are either of these guys as good as...Carson Strong? he is in the open market!!! Strong>Jones>Taylor>Webb
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 29, 2022 15:56:17 GMT -5
he is in the open market!!! Strong>Jones>Taylor>Webb Strong > Brady > Montana
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Post by SG88 on Aug 29, 2022 16:02:45 GMT -5
The only thing that has remained from the preseason about this is that the Giants are still very questionable at the most important position in American Sports. Neither of these guys jumped out of the screen. Taylor is a good player, but this is Jones' job to lose.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 29, 2022 16:10:18 GMT -5
The titled of this thread is starting to look humorous. you think a few possessions with back ups is gong to tell us anything? I am going by the performances of both players for their careers. the reason Jones is the starter is that he has a better upside. But right now, Daniel Jones has done nothing in the NFL. That needs to change. We already know what Tyrod Taylor is. He's actually won games in this league.
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Post by SG88 on Aug 29, 2022 16:20:59 GMT -5
The titled of this thread is starting to look humorous. you think a few possessions with back ups is gong to tell us anything? I am going by the performances of both players for their careers. the reason Jones is the starter is that he has a better upside. But right now, Daniel Jones has done nothing in the NFL. That needs to change. We already know what Tyrod Taylor is. He's actually won games in this league. I kind of understand why Jones fans have prematurely blown their loads. They want this young man to work out for us so badly that anything that he does good will be massively overstated. IMO, Jones didn't do anything to lose his job in the preseason nor did he totally grab it by the throat. The Titans are actually a really good team even without AJ Brown. We will see how it goes. This QB situation is far from squared away at the moment.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 29, 2022 16:24:46 GMT -5
you think a few possessions with back ups is gong to tell us anything? I am going by the performances of both players for their careers. the reason Jones is the starter is that he has a better upside. But right now, Daniel Jones has done nothing in the NFL. That needs to change. We already know what Tyrod Taylor is. He's actually won games in this league. I kind of understand why Jones fans have prematurely blown their loads. They want this young man to work out for us so badly that anything that he does good will be massively overstated. IMO, Jones didn't do anything to lose his job in the preseason nor did he totally grab it by the throat. The Titans are actually a really good team even without AJ Brown. We will see how it goes. This QB situation is far from squared away at the moment. We all want Daniel Jones to work out.
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Post by Speedman on Aug 29, 2022 16:39:30 GMT -5
Taylor is/has never been more than a decent backup QB.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 29, 2022 16:42:02 GMT -5
you think a few possessions with back ups is gong to tell us anything? I am going by the performances of both players for their careers. the reason Jones is the starter is that he has a better upside. But right now, Daniel Jones has done nothing in the NFL. That needs to change. We already know what Tyrod Taylor is. He's actually won games in this league. I kind of understand why Jones fans have prematurely blown their loads. They want this young man to work out for us so badly that anything that he does good will be massively overstated. IMO, Jones didn't do anything to lose his job in the preseason nor did he totally grab it by the throat. The Titans are actually a really good team even without AJ Brown. We will see how it goes. This QB situation is far from squared away at the moment. There are possibly 5 or 6 fans in the tri-state area who think Jones is lock to be a franchise. Jones doesnt even think he is a lock...lol His mistakes get overstated as well but I guess he has earned some of that. I liked what he didn in preseason. KG blew a TD and the other games he was good. In control seemed decisive. Of course the reg season is a whole new ball game. He will make mistakes that will suck but most QBs mess up. Hopefully its not too often. Titans is a good first game. A very good team but beatable. I am still Hopeless but getting excited none the less
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Post by SG88 on Aug 29, 2022 16:42:56 GMT -5
I kind of understand why Jones fans have prematurely blown their loads. They want this young man to work out for us so badly that anything that he does good will be massively overstated. IMO, Jones didn't do anything to lose his job in the preseason nor did he totally grab it by the throat. The Titans are actually a really good team even without AJ Brown. We will see how it goes. This QB situation is far from squared away at the moment. We all want Daniel Jones to work out. Absolutely. We are all Giants fans, right? I'm pretty sure that it is preferable for us to proceed forward with a franchise QB in tow than have to start all over again at the position.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 29, 2022 16:44:15 GMT -5
We all want Daniel Jones to work out. Absolutely. We are all Giants fans, right? I'm pretty sure that it is preferable for us to proceed forward with a franchise QB in tow than have to start all over again at the position. I am sure Schoen and Daboll feel the same way. The whole "he isnt their guy" thing is overblown IMO.
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Post by SG88 on Aug 29, 2022 16:48:34 GMT -5
Absolutely. We are all Giants fans, right? I'm pretty sure that it is preferable for us to proceed forward with a franchise QB in tow than have to start all over again at the position. I am sure Schoen and Daboll feel the same way. The whole "he isnt their guy" thing is overblown IMO. I agree with that. They're basically giving him a chance to prove that he can be. I have my doubts, but would love to be wrong.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 29, 2022 17:21:18 GMT -5
Taylor is/has never been more than a decent backup QB. And what has Daniel Jones been?
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 29, 2022 17:22:24 GMT -5
I am sure Schoen and Daboll feel the same way. The whole "he isnt their guy" thing is overblown IMO. I agree with that. They're basically giving him a chance to prove that he can be. I have my doubts, but would love to be wrong. I hate to say it but they are giving him a chance because they have no other choice. Dave saw to that.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 29, 2022 17:26:15 GMT -5
I agree with that. They're basically giving him a chance to prove that he can be. I have my doubts, but would love to be wrong. I hate to say it but they are giving him a chance because they have no other choice. Dave saw to that. I know you are down on DJ but I say give him a chance. Think of how many people wanted Phil Simms gone. Maybe DJ can surprise you. If not you get a new guy next season.
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Post by SG88 on Aug 29, 2022 18:10:09 GMT -5
I agree with that. They're basically giving him a chance to prove that he can be. I have my doubts, but would love to be wrong. I hate to say it but they are giving him a chance because they have no other choice. Dave saw to that. IMO, they would have taken Malik Willis if they had a ton of doubt. They believe in Jones enough to pass on him. That's the guy that will make them look foolish if he pans out. I really don't care about preseason football, but that young man's speed, arm, and athleticism jumped through the screen. I liked Pickett too (even more), but the Giants were not using either of those first rounders on him.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 29, 2022 18:55:52 GMT -5
I am sure Schoen and Daboll feel the same way. The whole "he isnt their guy" thing is overblown IMO. I agree with that. They're basically giving him a chance to prove that he can be. I have my doubts, but would love to be wrong. Most have significant doubt and most are rooting hard for the kid
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Post by Speedman on Aug 29, 2022 20:09:21 GMT -5
Taylor is/has never been more than a decent backup QB. And was has Daniel Jones been? A starter.
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Post by Speedman on Aug 29, 2022 20:12:40 GMT -5
Taylor is/has never been more than a decent backup QB. And was has Daniel Jones been? I just went back and looked and you started this stupid thread. Now I understand why you are still propping up Taylor.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 29, 2022 22:37:41 GMT -5
I hate to say it but they are giving him a chance because they have no other choice. Dave saw to that. I know you are down on DJ but I say give him a chance. Think of how many people wanted Phil Simms gone. Maybe DJ can surprise you. If not you get a new guy next season. I already said that I support the decision to start him. And I hope you're right.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 29, 2022 22:38:14 GMT -5
And was has Daniel Jones been? I just went back and looked and you started this stupid thread. Now I understand why you are still propping up Taylor. Taylor is a good backup QB....that's all.
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Post by thetruth on Aug 30, 2022 3:20:45 GMT -5
I just went back and looked and you started this stupid thread. Now I understand why you are still propping up Taylor. Taylor is a good backup QB....that's all. I’m catching up now but I wouldn’t be too upset with your take The giants have 3 backups at the QB position. Two really good ones. Jones is better than Taylor but in the same tier
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