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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 30, 2022 19:33:46 GMT -5
-Geno Smith
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Post by te88 on Oct 30, 2022 19:37:49 GMT -5
Haha oh boy.
Good for Geno honestly.
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Post by bigbluebrazil on Oct 30, 2022 19:39:13 GMT -5
Meh, McAdoo wanted to make the change, he should have directed It at ownership.
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Post by drew on Oct 30, 2022 19:41:37 GMT -5
Meh, McAdoo wanted to make the change, he should have directed It at ownership. I believe that's the point he's making. Reese and McAdoo wanted to move off Eli. But John Mara, the same moron who handed the keys to the franchise to Dave Gettleman, got upset because his baby boy had to ride the bench.
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Post by te88 on Oct 30, 2022 19:42:37 GMT -5
Meh, McAdoo wanted to make the change, he should have directed It at ownership. Actually ownership signed off on it and then pussed out when the fans balked.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 19:42:47 GMT -5
Meh, McAdoo wanted to make the change, he should have directed It at ownership. I’ll admit I for one was ready for the change. Long overdue.
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Post by bigbluebrazil on Oct 30, 2022 19:43:23 GMT -5
Meh, McAdoo wanted to make the change, he should have directed It at ownership. I believe that's the point he's making. Reese and McAdoo wanted to move off Eli. But John Mara, the same moron who handed the keys to the franchise to Dave Gettleman, got upset because his baby boy had to ride the bench. Good point, you changed my mind!
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Post by bigbluebrazil on Oct 30, 2022 19:46:27 GMT -5
Meh, McAdoo wanted to make the change, he should have directed It at ownership. I’ll admit I for one was ready for the change. Long overdue. I admit that I was angry at first, out of sheer loyalty to Chad Powers, but It was time. And to be fair to Geno, he did not play bad @oakland, despite the loss.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 30, 2022 19:47:37 GMT -5
Oh Please.
Geno isn't saying this shit if they lose the game. He's making this win way more than it is. Seattle ain't extending him beyond this year and they won't do shit in the playoffs.
Good for Geno sticking around the NFL when most guys would fizzle after the career he had, but this little "revenge" tour he thinks he's on is all in his head.
Giants fans never wanted him. Jets fans never wanted him. We didn't want him then. We don't want him now. He ran into a team with 2 elite WRs and a solid running game. More power to Carroll for building a style of play that suits him.
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Post by Fletch842 on Oct 30, 2022 19:54:30 GMT -5
that was many years ago, let it die....
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 30, 2022 20:05:57 GMT -5
that was many years ago, let it die.... This is his first good season. He can't. I wonder what Davis Webb thinks...
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Post by giantsalmon on Oct 30, 2022 20:18:16 GMT -5
Honestly he sealed his fate as a future NYG QB when he used his one presser as a Giant starter to bash Rex Ryan. Just not how NYG likes to have their QBs operate.
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Post by DJones19 on Oct 30, 2022 20:25:12 GMT -5
It can be refreshing to hear players not sound like robots in interviews all the time.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 30, 2022 20:49:43 GMT -5
LOL Geno was not that guy at the Jets or here but leave it to Jordo to come up with something stupid to say. MacAdoo and Reese have had so much success since
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Post by moecoastie on Oct 30, 2022 21:00:17 GMT -5
Geno earned the right to say what he wants
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Post by grayphoenix on Oct 30, 2022 21:18:16 GMT -5
Meh, McAdoo wanted to make the change, he should have directed It at ownership. I believe that's the point he's making. Reese and McAdoo wanted to move off Eli. But John Mara, the same moron who handed the keys to the franchise to Dave Gettleman, got upset because his baby boy had to ride the bench. So he's actually saying it in appreciation of those two then?
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Post by jaymas on Oct 30, 2022 21:21:49 GMT -5
Happy for Geno, always had ability...this is dramatic, and as someone else said, I don't get the pseudo revenge tour thing.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 30, 2022 21:27:51 GMT -5
I believe that's the point he's making. Reese and McAdoo wanted to move off Eli. But John Mara, the same moron who handed the keys to the franchise to Dave Gettleman, got upset because his baby boy had to ride the bench. So he's actually saying it in appreciation of those two then? That's the way I see it. McAdoo and Reese gave him the opportunity.
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Post by thetruth on Oct 30, 2022 21:39:06 GMT -5
love the shade! Also big JR fan, so salute.
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Post by nick030567 on Oct 30, 2022 21:40:05 GMT -5
I just thought it was lame how they both scapegoated Eli. Geno would've failed just like Eli because it was a bad TEAM with a BAD scheme. Post-TC Mac had a one dimensional offense..that was on him. He couldn't scheme open receivers like they did with Preston Parker when Coughlin was HC...
Reese and his scouting staff screwed this team towards the last few years.
Where was next wave of pass rushers and solid O-linemen? Took until recent years to build that to where it is now.
That offense was all Eli and Odell. Reese had to buy a defense and all of those egos blew up the locker room in 2017
Honestly, as a fan, I am very grateful for all Reese did with the giants
But he was just as bad as Gettleman after 2009. Lots of bad picks. very bad injury luck didn't help either
I see him as a huge positive in giants history. But I just think he had some big faults that some fans overlook
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Post by thetruth on Oct 30, 2022 21:40:37 GMT -5
So he's actually saying it in appreciation of those two then? That's the way I see it. McAdoo and Reese gave him the opportunity. 100%
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Post by thetruth on Oct 30, 2022 21:43:57 GMT -5
I just thought it was lame how they both scapegoated Eli. Geno would've failed just like Eli because it was a bad TEAM with a BAD scheme. Post-TC Mac had a one dimensional offense..that was on him. He couldn't scheme open receivers like they did with Preston Parker when Coughlin was HC... Reese and his scouting staff screwed this team towards the last few years. Reese was skittish with the press so he LOVED playing the blame game. Where was next wave of pass rushers and solid O-linemen? Took until recent years to build that to where it is now. Honestly, that offense was all Eli and Odell. Reese had to buy a defense and all of those egos blew up the locker room in 2017 Honestly, as a fan, I am very grateful for all Reese did with the giants But he was just as bad as Gettleman after 2009. Lots of bad picks, and very bad injury luck didn't help JR is a legend. Gettlemen is a bum, can't compare the two. End of career Eli is someone JR knew we should moved on from, but emotional fans got in the way, literally. Mara folded like a little wimp he is and the rest is history. JR has two rings, everything you are saying is just sour grapes. Rather strange sour grapes. His 2007 draft class pick at the picking END of the draft completely changed the Giants trajectory, he also drafted JPP in 2010 and again, Giants had a meltdown, referencing linebackers and a fella named Sean Weatherspoon as to who we "Should" have drafted. How did that work out? Its about time the getty homers come out of the woodworks and show some respect, 2007/2011 will likely be your best sports years for the rest of your life and you have JR to thank for it
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Post by thetruth on Oct 30, 2022 21:49:04 GMT -5
Oh Please. Geno isn't saying this shit if they lose the game. He's making this win way more than it is. Seattle ain't extending him beyond this year and they won't do shit in the playoffs. Good for Geno sticking around the NFL when most guys would fizzle after the career he had, but this little "revenge" tour he thinks he's on is all in his head. Giants fans never wanted him. Jets fans never wanted him. We didn't want him then. We don't want him now. He ran into a team with 2 elite WRs and a solid running game. More power to Carroll for building a style of play that suits him. And nows hes a better QB than the first round selections the Jets/Giants made after they got rid of him Who could have guessed that one? Looks like Genos laughing last.
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Post by nick030567 on Oct 30, 2022 21:50:27 GMT -5
I just thought it was lame how they both scapegoated Eli. Geno would've failed just like Eli because it was a bad TEAM with a BAD scheme. Post-TC Mac had a one dimensional offense..that was on him. He couldn't scheme open receivers like they did with Preston Parker when Coughlin was HC... Reese and his scouting staff screwed this team towards the last few years. Reese was skittish with the press so he LOVED playing the blame game. Where was next wave of pass rushers and solid O-linemen? Took until recent years to build that to where it is now. Honestly, that offense was all Eli and Odell. Reese had to buy a defense and all of those egos blew up the locker room in 2017 Honestly, as a fan, I am very grateful for all Reese did with the giants But he was just as bad as Gettleman after 2009. Lots of bad picks, and very bad injury luck didn't help JR is a legend. Gettlemen is a bum, can't compare the two. JR has two rings, everything you are saying is just sour grapes. Rather strange sour grapes. His 2007 draft class pick at the END of the draft completely changed the Giants trajectory, he also drafted JPP in 2010 and again, Giants had a meltdown, referencing linebackers and a fella named Sean Weatherspoon as to who we "Should" have drafted. Have some respect, 2007/2011 will likely be your best sports years for the rest of your life and you have JR to thank for it Lmao they both assembled that core team from 2004-2011 For every JPP I can name Rhett Bomar, Adrien Robinson, Travis Beckum, Ryan Nassib, Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple...do you really have to make me go on? So many bad examples after 2009. Linval was a good pick in 2010. Who else? I can't recall any from that year. Eli Apple alone..at the time such a bad pick. How about someone to scare QBs or protect your clutch franchise QB who was coming off a career year in 2015, and then showing up in the playoffs in 2016 when the rest of the team had their heads up their asses?? I see them as near equals. Reese has two Super bowls as GM. Gettleman was there and played his part..then had success in Carolina Did you forget that Reese put the giants in cap hell multiple times with bloated, long FA contracts? Including most egregiously 2016, which actually hamstrung Gettleman?
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Post by nick030567 on Oct 30, 2022 21:55:49 GMT -5
I just thought it was lame how they both scapegoated Eli. Geno would've failed just like Eli because it was a bad TEAM with a BAD scheme. Post-TC Mac had a one dimensional offense..that was on him. He couldn't scheme open receivers like they did with Preston Parker when Coughlin was HC... Reese and his scouting staff screwed this team towards the last few years. Reese was skittish with the press so he LOVED playing the blame game. Where was next wave of pass rushers and solid O-linemen? Took until recent years to build that to where it is now. Honestly, that offense was all Eli and Odell. Reese had to buy a defense and all of those egos blew up the locker room in 2017 Honestly, as a fan, I am very grateful for all Reese did with the giants But he was just as bad as Gettleman after 2009. Lots of bad picks, and very bad injury luck didn't help JR is a legend. Gettlemen is a bum, can't compare the two. End of career Eli is someone JR knew we should moved on from, but emotional fans got in the way, literally. Mara folded like a little wimp he is and the rest is history. JR has two rings, everything you are saying is just sour grapes. Rather strange sour grapes. His 2007 draft class pick at the picking END of the draft completely changed the Giants trajectory, he also drafted JPP in 2010 and again, Giants had a meltdown, referencing linebackers and a fella named Sean Weatherspoon as to who we "Should" have drafted. How did that work out? Its about time the getty homers come out of the woodworks and show some respect, 2007/2011 will likely be your best sports years for the rest of your life and you have JR to thank for it I pretty much said Reese was one of the best figures in giants history lol. But I'm not gonna sugarcoat his obvious failures. Especially when he would throw others under the bus in the media. Others who helped him achieve those super bowls. I just think 2007 and JPP went to his head. His best drafts was 2007. And it was so good that it helps you ignore 2011-2017. Those are a lot of drafts to rebuild your lines. He didn't
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Post by thetruth on Oct 30, 2022 21:58:08 GMT -5
JR is a legend. Gettlemen is a bum, can't compare the two. JR has two rings, everything you are saying is just sour grapes. Rather strange sour grapes. His 2007 draft class pick at the END of the draft completely changed the Giants trajectory, he also drafted JPP in 2010 and again, Giants had a meltdown, referencing linebackers and a fella named Sean Weatherspoon as to who we "Should" have drafted. Have some respect, 2007/2011 will likely be your best sports years for the rest of your life and you have JR to thank for it Lmao they both assembled that core team from 2004-2011 For every JPP I can name Rhett Bomar, Adrien Robinson, Travis Beckum, Ryan Nassib, Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple...do you really have to make me go on? So many bad examples after 2009. Linval was a good pick in 2010. Who else? I can't recall any from that year. Eli Apple alone..at the time such a bad pick. How about someone to scare QBs or protect your clutch franchise QB who was coming off a career year in 2015, and then showing up in the playoffs in 2016 when the rest of the team had their heads up their asses?? I see them as near equals. Reese has two Super bowls as GM. Gettleman was there and played his part..then had success in Carolina Did you forget that Reese put the giants in cap hell multiple times with bloated, long FA contracts? Including most egregiously 2016, which actually hamstrung Gettleman? Ereck Flowers and Eli Apple are his worst picks and both are currently average starters in the NFL. Flowers being an above average LG, Eli Apple a starting CB on the Bengals. Adrien Robinson (4th round), Rhett Bomar(really? 5th round), Travis Beckham (3rd round), and Ryan Nassib (4th round) are your next best examples. Want to do better? Why not Andre Woodson?? (5th round?) why stop at these mid rounders? Near equals? in which way? one is the best GM in Giants history, the other the worst.. care to explain? JR drafted WR's, fantastic ones every other year. A long with DTs (2nd round picks) without every overpaying for one. His first/second round picks are almost all hits, the mid-rounders were in Marc Ross's hands and yes, bad hire. Can't let him run the draft (you know, how JR made Accorsi's drafts respectable, Ross couldn't do the same for JR) Help me breakdown Gettlemens FA which are at almost 0%, compare that with Jerry Reese. Also help me understand why we didn't get more from Gettlemens draft classes? the average pick was ~10th, JR's 20th. JR drafted two legitimate Stars despite this in OBJ and JPP. What on earth has Gettlemen done? 10 spots better draft selection, for, what he do with it? Do you people even know the history of the team you support? Man. Not smart, just emotional. Check your facts and come back to me. And please be better
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 30, 2022 22:02:22 GMT -5
Geno earned the right to say what he wants Giants fans didnt believe in him , Macadoo did......
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Post by nick030567 on Oct 30, 2022 22:03:16 GMT -5
Lmao they both assembled that core team from 2004-2011 For every JPP I can name Rhett Bomar, Adrien Robinson, Travis Beckum, Ryan Nassib, Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple...do you really have to make me go on? So many bad examples after 2009. Linval was a good pick in 2010. Who else? I can't recall any from that year. Eli Apple alone..at the time such a bad pick. How about someone to scare QBs or protect your clutch franchise QB who was coming off a career year in 2015, and then showing up in the playoffs in 2016 when the rest of the team had their heads up their asses?? I see them as near equals. Reese has two Super bowls as GM. Gettleman was there and played his part..then had success in Carolina Did you forget that Reese put the giants in cap hell multiple times with bloated, long FA contracts? Including most egregiously 2016, which actually hamstrung Gettleman? Ereck Flowers and Eli Apple are his worst picks and both are currently average starters in the NFL. Flowers being an above average LG, Eli Apple a starting CB on the Bengals. Adrien Robinson (4th round), Rhett Bomar(really? 5th round), Travis Beckham (3rd round), and Ryan Nassib (4th round) are your next best examples. Want to do better? Why not Andre Woodson?? (5th round?) why stop at these mid rounders? Near equals? in which way? one is the best GM in Giants history, the other the worst.. care to explain? Help me breakdown Gettlemens FA which are at almost 0%, compare that with Jerry Reese. Also help me understand why we didn't get more from Gettlemens draft classes? the average pick was ~10th, JR's 20th. JR drafted two legitimate Stars despite this in OBJ and JPP. What on earth has Gettlemen done? Do you people even know the history of the team you support? Man. Not smart Lmao Flowers was supposed to be Andrew Thomas I'm naming guys. You need your middle and laye round picks to produce. Just like they did in 2007 and 2008.. I can name a number of good Reese pick ups. Even guys like Will Hill. Too bad that never worked out. But he was a baller. I even defended him on th David Wilson, who was actually kinda similar to Barkley. Gettleman, Reese and Accorsi played crucial roles in building those Super Bowl winners. It's why I say they are NEAR equals. Without Gettleman you don't get players like O'Hara. I felt like Reese inherited a great structure and kinda squandered it away after a few years But hey, he is definitely one of the all time best in giants history. No doubt! But I am just balanced. Gettleman had plenty of **** ups. But he also inherited a giant mess. And he did help acquire good players for those super bowl winners. And he did help the Panthers get to a super bowl.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 30, 2022 22:04:06 GMT -5
Meh, McAdoo wanted to make the change, he should have directed It at ownership. Actually ownership signed off on it and then pussed out when the fans balked. its a shame those many fans will not admit they were wrong and Eli stayed too long . we needed a more mobile qb in todays nfl with dl guys running a 4.5
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 30, 2022 22:09:16 GMT -5
Meh, McAdoo wanted to make the change, he should have directed It at ownership. I’ll admit I for one was ready for the change. Long overdue. The whole point was they were told to let the younger QBs play that was from Mara they wanted to see Webb I believe, don't think Geno was in the plans. were the Giants supposed to wait another 5 years for him the dude found it at age 30. Good for him.
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