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Post by TEM on Nov 10, 2022 15:29:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the Giants' memories.
Good luck in life after Football
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 10, 2022 15:49:13 GMT -5
That injury knocked the thump out of him. He was never the same afterwards, and it probably made him reflect on things. Best to get out while your brain is still intact.
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 10, 2022 18:01:34 GMT -5
He was a good player, had a nice career, shortened by injury. Wish him well in his next adventure.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 11, 2022 17:59:36 GMT -5
Kind of validation for us asking him to take a pay cut in the fact that I think a lot of us probably wanted to retain him and thought you know he could get back to forum. But I guess in the grand scheme of things they knew what was best overall for the organization and maybe they could have kept him at the right price or something only.
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Post by shocknaweny on Nov 15, 2022 11:11:43 GMT -5
I liked him a lot... one of the very few players I enjoyed watching during the Joe Judge years
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Post by moecoastie on Nov 16, 2022 2:46:58 GMT -5
Kind of validation for us asking him to take a pay cut in the fact that I think a lot of us probably wanted to retain him and thought you know he could get back to forum. But I guess in the grand scheme of things they knew what was best overall for the organization and maybe they could have kept him at the right price or something only. They saved pennies releasing him. Don't think it was about money. Still think it was a mistake and who knows if he would have retired if still on the team
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 16, 2022 7:26:15 GMT -5
Kind of validation for us asking him to take a pay cut in the fact that I think a lot of us probably wanted to retain him and thought you know he could get back to forum. But I guess in the grand scheme of things they knew what was best overall for the organization and maybe they could have kept him at the right price or something only. They saved pennies releasing him. Don't think it was about money. Still think it was a mistake and who knows if he would have retired if still on the team interesting
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 19, 2022 19:45:36 GMT -5
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 5, 2023 17:17:26 GMT -5
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 6, 2023 8:27:09 GMT -5
saw that in the news, pretty sad.
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Post by TEM on Aug 6, 2023 9:01:29 GMT -5
Big deal. He engaged in Capitalism and gave 20 individuals a job. He took advantage of some idiots who bought a card with a fictitious character on it. Who is the real moron?
Not a scam... He provided a non-counterfeit item for a price that was agreed to by the buyer.
"A fool and his money are easily parted." Dr. John Bridges 1587
Anyone who pays 672K for a 25-cent card is a moron's moron.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 6, 2023 10:58:37 GMT -5
Big deal. He engaged in Capitalism and gave 20 individuals a job. He took advantage of some idiots who bought a card with a fictitious character on it. Who is the real moron? Not a scam... He provided a non-counterfeit item for a price that was agreed to by the buyer. "A fool and his money are easily parted."Dr. John Bridges 1587 Anyone who pays 672K for a 25-cent card is a moron's moron. Don't know if that is the full story. They were livestreaming one thing and providing another. Even Blake admits what went down looks shady. https://www.reddit.com/r/whatnotapp/comments/15d4wjv/pokesnee_breaks_silence_on_blakesbreaks_scandal/
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Post by TEM on Aug 6, 2023 11:14:37 GMT -5
Big deal. He engaged in Capitalism and gave 20 individuals a job. He took advantage of some idiots who bought a card with a fictitious character on it. Who is the real moron? Not a scam... He provided a non-counterfeit item for a price that was agreed to by the buyer. "A fool and his money are easily parted."Dr. John Bridges 1587 Anyone who pays 672K for a 25-cent card is a moron's moron. Don't know if that is the full story. They were livestreaming one thing and providing another. Even Blake admits what went down looks shady. https://www.reddit.com/r/whatnotapp/comments/15d4wjv/pokesnee_breaks_silence_on_blakesbreaks_scandal/ Yeah reddit us a creditable source. Lets post a video anyone could have made. I stick to what I say Only idiots buy cartoon cards for more than a quarter. Thermos not even a word for the stupidity of spending 672K on one.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 6, 2023 11:25:42 GMT -5
Big deal. He engaged in Capitalism and gave 20 individuals a job. He took advantage of some idiots who bought a card with a fictitious character on it. Who is the real moron? Not a scam... He provided a non-counterfeit item for a price that was agreed to by the buyer. "A fool and his money are easily parted."Dr. John Bridges 1587 Anyone who pays 672K for a 25-cent card is a moron's moron. Actually, ripping off people, no matter how stupid you think they are, is a big deal and is certainly not capitalism
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Post by TEM on Aug 6, 2023 11:48:38 GMT -5
Big deal. He engaged in Capitalism and gave 20 individuals a job. He took advantage of some idiots who bought a card with a fictitious character on it. Who is the real moron? Not a scam... He provided a non-counterfeit item for a price that was agreed to by the buyer. "A fool and his money are easily parted."Dr. John Bridges 1587 Anyone who pays 672K for a 25-cent card is a moron's moron. Actually, ripping off people, no matter how stupid you think they are, is a big deal and is certainly not capitalism Buying any card for an exuberant amount of money is being scammed. It does not matter if it is Sotheby's or trench coat Billy in the back ally conducting the rip-off. It is just how well the deception of scam is conducted, Only the credibility of who is conducting swindle is the conceive the legitimacy of the value of the item. That is the only difference. The concept is the same. A fool and his money are easily parted. It is capitalism "profiteering" Sell for more than the value to produce it.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 6, 2023 11:55:14 GMT -5
Don't know if that is the full story. They were livestreaming one thing and providing another. Even Blake admits what went down looks shady. https://www.reddit.com/r/whatnotapp/comments/15d4wjv/pokesnee_breaks_silence_on_blakesbreaks_scandal/ Yeah reddit us a creditable source. Lets post a video anyone could have made. I stick to what I say Only idiots buy cartoon cards for more than a quarter. Thermos not even a word for the stupidity of spending 672K on one. I agree with you about the cards and value for many "collectables" but that should not excuse shady or fraudulent behavior imo. Capitalism and fraud are not the same thing. Blakes company was removed for a reason and Blake has apologized for a reason. Its not something just made up.
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Post by TEM on Aug 6, 2023 12:06:11 GMT -5
Yeah reddit us a creditable source. Lets post a video anyone could have made. I stick to what I say Only idiots buy cartoon cards for more than a quarter. Thermos not even a word for the stupidity of spending 672K on one. I agree with you about the cards and value for many "collectables" but that should not excuse shady or fraudulent behavior imo. Capitalism and fraud are not the same thing. Blakes company was removed for a reason and Blake has apologized for a reason. Its not something just made up. Are they? Why are some cars sold for thousands over sticker. I do not see the car manufacturers having a problem with dealerships doing that? The line between what fraud and what is not. Is based upon perception. The blame for the propagation of the legitimacy of value of any given item, service or access. Always falls upon the buyer.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 6, 2023 12:14:14 GMT -5
I agree with you about the cards and value for many "collectables" but that should not excuse shady or fraudulent behavior imo. Capitalism and fraud are not the same thing. Blakes company was removed for a reason and Blake has apologized for a reason. Its not something just made up. Are they? Why are some cars sold for thousands over sticker. I do not see the car manufacturers having a problem with dealerships doing that? The line between what fraud and what is not. Is based upon perception. The blame for the propagation of the legitimacy of value of any given item, service or access. Always falls upon the buyer. When somebody buys a Ford Taurus for thousands above sticker they see the sticker. They know what they are paying and they know the car they are getting. They are not shown a bunch of Honda Accords and then end up with a Ford Taurus. Fraud is illegal. Bait and switch is illegal. Capitalism is not. I just bought some brown mulch this morning. I knew when I bought it I was not paying just for the cost of the mulch. I was paying for the cost, labor, transportation, and a small profit margin. I was not shown brown mulch on a website then get newspaper delivered instead. There are millions of good capitalist transactions a day that are not fraudulent.
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Post by TEM on Aug 6, 2023 12:23:14 GMT -5
Are they? Why are some cars sold for thousands over sticker. I do not see the car manufacturers having a problem with dealerships doing that? The line between what fraud and what is not. Is based upon perception. The blame for the propagation of the legitimacy of value of any given item, service or access. Always falls upon the buyer. When somebody buys a Ford Taurus for thousands above sticker they see the sticker. They know what they are paying and they know the car they are getting. They are not shown a bunch of Honda Accords and then end up with a Ford Taurus. Fraud is illegal. Bait and switch is illegal. Capitalism is not. I just bought some brown mulch this morning. I knew when I bought it I was not paying just for the cost of the mulch. I was paying for the cost, labor, transportation, and a small profit margin. I was not shown brown mulch on a website then get newspaper delivered instead. There are millions of good capitalist transactions a day that are not fraudulent. Where is the proof? Where are the counterfeit cards? What I see is a bunch of morons that bought mass produced printed pictures for way more than they should have spent. Now are complaining and ignoring that own lack of mental equity. It is very easy to find morons. They are like herd animals. .They hang together. Am I showing cold indifference. Yes. But no one learns anything if mistakes go unchallenged.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 6, 2023 13:53:01 GMT -5
Actually, ripping off people, no matter how stupid you think they are, is a big deal and is certainly not capitalism Buying any card for an exuberant amount of money is being scammed. It does not matter if it is Sotheby's or trench coat Billy in the back ally conducting the rip-off. It is just how well the deception of scam is conducted, Only the credibility of who is conducting swindle is the conceive the legitimacy of the value of the item. That is the only difference. The concept is the same. A fool and his money are easily parted. It is capitalism "profiteering" Sell for more than the value to produce it. You should google fraud and learn the difference between people placing different values than you do on certain things and a person who values something based upon a misrepresentation of the seller intended to dupe them To be clear, I don’t know if he committed fraud or not … and neither do you
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Post by TEM on Aug 6, 2023 14:27:42 GMT -5
Buying any card for an exuberant amount of money is being scammed. It does not matter if it is Sotheby's or trench coat Billy in the back ally conducting the rip-off. It is just how well the deception of scam is conducted, Only the credibility of who is conducting swindle is the conceive the legitimacy of the value of the item. That is the only difference. The concept is the same. A fool and his money are easily parted. It is capitalism "profiteering" Sell for more than the value to produce it. You should google fraud and learn the difference between people placing different values than you do on certain things and a person who values something based upon a misrepresentation of the seller intended to dupe them To be clear, I don’t know if he committed fraud or not … and neither do you Why I say he was indulging in capitalism. Profiteering. I will say it again fraud is based upon perception. Only a moron grossly overpays for a mass-produced printed picture.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Aug 6, 2023 20:09:47 GMT -5
Actually, ripping off people, no matter how stupid you think they are, is a big deal and is certainly not capitalism Buying any card for an exuberant amount of money is being scammed. It does not matter if it is Sotheby's or trench coat Billy in the back ally conducting the rip-off. It is just how well the deception of scam is conducted, Only the credibility of who is conducting swindle is the conceive the legitimacy of the value of the item. That is the only difference. The concept is the same. A fool and his money are easily parted. It is capitalism "profiteering" Sell for more than the value to produce it. The Mona Lisa probably only cost about $0.30 in poplar wood and oil paint.
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Post by TEM on Aug 6, 2023 20:21:27 GMT -5
Buying any card for an exuberant amount of money is being scammed. It does not matter if it is Sotheby's or trench coat Billy in the back ally conducting the rip-off. It is just how well the deception of scam is conducted, Only the credibility of who is conducting swindle is the conceive the legitimacy of the value of the item. That is the only difference. The concept is the same. A fool and his money are easily parted. It is capitalism "profiteering" Sell for more than the value to produce it. The Mona Lisa probably only cost about $0.30 in poplar wood and oil paint. That is why value is an illusion. It is all based on who will pay what. Technically dogs playing poker is the same, canvas, wood and paint. Just in a different configuration that makes it of lesser value in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Aug 6, 2023 23:09:45 GMT -5
The Mona Lisa probably only cost about $0.30 in poplar wood and oil paint. That is why value is an illusion. It is all based on who will pay what. Technically dogs playing poker is the same, canvas, wood and paint. Just in a different configuration that makes it of lesser value in the eye of the beholder. Value isn't an illusion. It's literally a value set. What you see as oil on wood, others see as incredibly value. It almost seems like you are being intentionally stubborn with this one. I've seen your posts a lot. You're clearly intelligent enough to understand what collectibles are.
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Post by TEM on Aug 7, 2023 7:20:15 GMT -5
That is why value is an illusion. It is all based on who will pay what. Technically dogs playing poker is the same, canvas, wood and paint. Just in a different configuration that makes it of lesser value in the eye of the beholder. Value isn't an illusion. It's literally a value set. What you see as oil on wood, others see as incredibly value. It almost seems like you are being intentionally stubborn with this one. I've seen your posts a lot. You're clearly intelligent enough to understand what collectibles are. I do see and know what they are. For me I just do not see them as a tangible asset. More often than not. They are an impulsive fad more so than hard value. Throughout history there has only been a hand full of value retaining items, Shelter / Land, Food, Tools, Live stock, Gems gold sliver, Weapons, transportation (Horses cars....). And, I hate to say it. (Slaves). Empires and societies have been developed and collapsed. Those few items are still the corners stone of how they are built. Even in our modern world these items are seen as value everywhere. And, yes there is still a thriving slave trade in every country. Yeah, I can agree it is very binary in my thought process. But history has proven this to be true.
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Post by jimmieray on Aug 7, 2023 7:41:58 GMT -5
Big deal. He engaged in Capitalism and gave 20 individuals a job. He took advantage of some idiots who bought a card with a fictitious character on it. Who is the real moron? Not a scam... He provided a non-counterfeit item for a price that was agreed to by the buyer. "A fool and his money are easily parted."Dr. John Bridges 1587 Anyone who pays 672K for a 25-cent card is a moron's moron. Actually, ripping off people, no matter how stupid you think they are, is a big deal and is certainly not capitalism While this is true, I can't feel an ounce of pity for these fools. They pretty much deserve it, and there should be a lesson learned here for others.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Aug 7, 2023 8:16:08 GMT -5
Actually, ripping off people, no matter how stupid you think they are, is a big deal and is certainly not capitalism While this is true, I can't feel an ounce of pity for these fools. They pretty much deserve it, and there should be a lesson learned here for others. So if I’m buying gold to invest in and it turns out to be counterfeit, I’m a fool and deserve it? What about tools? I use (and am addicted to collecting) tools. Someone counterfeits a vintage Blackhawk and I buy it…I’m a fool and deserve it?
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Post by jimmieray on Aug 7, 2023 8:43:44 GMT -5
While this is true, I can't feel an ounce of pity for these fools. They pretty much deserve it, and there should be a lesson learned here for others. So if I’m buying gold to invest in and it turns out to be counterfeit, I’m a fool and deserve it? What about tools? I use (and am addicted to collecting) tools. Someone counterfeits a vintage Blackhawk and I buy it…I’m a fool and deserve it? But we're talking about some stupid sissy cards that should be an embarrassment to have in one's possession. Gold has long been a commodity of trade worldwide since people began wearing clothing. Tools are necessary and older ones can be a work of craftsmanship in themselves. Speaking of which, I have a retro enjoyment of Rat Fink related stuff, but wouldn't pay more than 5 bucks for a tool box sticker.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Aug 7, 2023 8:56:26 GMT -5
So if I’m buying gold to invest in and it turns out to be counterfeit, I’m a fool and deserve it? What about tools? I use (and am addicted to collecting) tools. Someone counterfeits a vintage Blackhawk and I buy it…I’m a fool and deserve it? But we're talking about some stupid sissy cards that should be an embarrassment to have in one's possession. Gold has long been a commodity of trade worldwide since people began wearing clothing. Tools are necessary and older ones can be a work of craftsmanship in themselves. Speaking of which, I have a retro enjoyment of Rat Fink related stuff, but wouldn't pay more than 5 bucks for a tool box sticker. You see them as “stupid sissy cards that should be an embarrassment to own.” That’s your value set and beliefs. Not everyone else’s. I collected sports cards. Is that acceptable to you?
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Post by Nite on Aug 7, 2023 10:03:29 GMT -5
Big deal. He engaged in Capitalism and gave 20 individuals a job. He took advantage of some idiots who bought a card with a fictitious character on it. Who is the real moron? Not a scam... He provided a non-counterfeit item for a price that was agreed to by the buyer. "A fool and his money are easily parted."Dr. John Bridges 1587 Anyone who pays 672K for a 25-cent card is a moron's moron. How about someone who pays $0.50 for a Mickey Mantle rookie card and then forgets she had it in a shoebox in her mother's hallway closet. The mother then forgets that it is immensely valuable and throws it away during a spring cleaning? I won't tell you about the original issue mint condition wonder woman comic that mom (same mother) traded for candy and a movie ticket. I think she has forgiven her by now.. (maybe)
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