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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2022 11:04:22 GMT -5
I’m not going to interact on this thread. This is for other’s opinions and I will listen. I’m pretty sure everyone here knows I’m a Jones guy and would love to have him stay. I want to leave him out of the conversation. I mostly want to focus on the Offensive Line, Defensive Line, LBs and Secondary. We know where we stand with WRs, RBs, TE, etc. So, who stays and who goes? Let me know what you think. I’m pretty sure we wanna get rid of Peart and Lemieux…obvious reasons. What else can you guys tell me? Anyone want to get rid of Lawrence? I really don’t but I’ve heard some on here killing him. Let’s go…you guys have the floor.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Nov 25, 2022 11:19:55 GMT -5
I’m not going to interact on this thread. This is for other’s opinions and I will listen. I’m pretty sure everyone here knows I’m a Jones guy and would love to have him stay. I want to leave him out of the conversation. I mostly want to focus on the Offensive Line, Defensive Line, LBs and Secondary. We know where we stand with WRs, RBs, TE, etc. So, who stays and who goes? Let me know what you think. I’m pretty sure we wanna get rid of Peart and Lemieux…obvious reasons. What else can you guys tell me? Anyone want to get rid of Lawrence? I really don’t but I’ve heard some on here killing him. Let’s go…you guys have the floor. We need 2-3 OL. We need to see how high Bellingers ceiling is. Can het get to a Andrews type level? We need 4 WR. We need LB's that can stop the run. We need a shut down CB. We need a KR/PR that can go yard or break a long one. We do not have a threat back there. We could also use a way to keep our punts from going in the endzone.
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Post by 3days on Nov 25, 2022 11:23:27 GMT -5
I think it is a bit early for this, and I am hoping we get some of our guys back for a playoff push (a man can dream right). That said I do feel like we have learned a few things this year about some key players. Ignoring QB, I will start at RB, I think, sadly, this will be our last year with Barkley. He is a great player but I believe that we can’t pay him what he will likely get with his injury history. It is a shame, I think he is a great teammate and quality. At WR, I think we have all been impressed with Slayton. I would like to see signed now. On the line, my view is that all EZ is developing well, so we really need to focus on upgrading our other guard or the Center. If we can get 2 new starters in then we will actually have a good line with real depth.
On defense, please keep our Dline intact! My main focus is on blowing out our ILBs, we do not have a starter at this position. I would prioritize this over our DBs as I am assuming that they will return to health and Flott is developing well. That would leave my last concern on the pass rush. Will OJ ever return and be reliable, and if so will he play like he did last year. If so, he and Thibs should be a great duo next year.
Last word, I believe all of our rookies are developing very well and it may be the best draft we have had in over a decade….If Wan‘ Dale can return and keep developing.
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Post by hadenough on Nov 25, 2022 11:37:30 GMT -5
I don’t think they’re that far off.
Offense: Need a good interior OL. Need a good WR. Even though I like Barkley…you can always seem to find a capable RB. I’m a fan of the 2 RB system like Bradshaw/Jacobs, Pollard/Zeke.
Defense: They still need a true speed rusher for 3rd down. Need ILB
Im sure there will be other areas of upgrades, but I’m fine with what the Giants have everywhere else and just look to upgrade those spots.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Nov 25, 2022 11:38:04 GMT -5
I think it is a bit early for this, and I am hoping we get some of our guys back for a playoff push (a man can dream right). That said I do feel like we have learned a few things this year about some key players. Ignoring QB, I will start at RB, I think, sadly, this will be our last year with Barkley. He is a great player but I believe that we can’t pay him what he will likely get with his injury history. It is a shame, I think he is a great teammate and quality. At WR, I think we have all been impressed with Slayton. I would like to see signed now. On the line, my view is that all EZ is developing well, so we really need to focus on upgrading our other guard or the Center. If we can get 2 new starters in then we will actually have a good line with real depth. On defense, please keep our Dline intact! My main focus is on blowing out our ILBs, we do not have a starter at this position. I would prioritize this over our DBs as I am assuming that they will return to health and Flott is developing well. That would leave my last concern on the pass rush. Will OJ ever return and be reliable, and if so will he play like he did last year. If so, he and Thibs should be a great duo next year. Last word, I believe all of our rookies are developing very well and it may be the best draft we have had in over a decade….If Wan‘ Dale can return and keep developing. I do not know if our draft is doing as well as I hoped in large part due to injuries. #5 Thibs showing some good stuff but not in the running for ROY #7 Neal some good and bad as a rookie. Injury did not help. Hopefully establishes himself in his 2nd year. 2nd round Wandale some good stuff but a small guy coming off knee injury? Time will tell. 3rd round EZ some good run blocking. Inconsistent run blocking. 3rd round Cordale Flott looking like a rookie. 4th round Bellinger Good blocking. Some nice pass catching. What is his ceiling? 4th round Dane Belton. Some up and down like many rookies. 5th round Micah McFadden is he a long time starter? 5th round DJ Davidson (injured) 5th round Marcus McKethan (injured) 6th round Darrian Beavers (injured)
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 25, 2022 12:33:59 GMT -5
I’m not going to interact on this thread. This is for other’s opinions and I will listen. I’m pretty sure everyone here knows I’m a Jones guy and would love to have him stay. I want to leave him out of the conversation. I mostly want to focus on the Offensive Line, Defensive Line, LBs and Secondary. We know where we stand with WRs, RBs, TE, etc. So, who stays and who goes? Let me know what you think. I’m pretty sure we wanna get rid of Peart and Lemieux…obvious reasons. What else can you guys tell me? Anyone want to get rid of Lawrence? I really don’t but I’ve heard some on here killing him. Let’s go…you guys have the floor. Who has been killing Lawrence!?!?! Dude is having a STELLAR season
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 25, 2022 12:40:17 GMT -5
Areas of need: WR, WR, OG, ILB, CB
If we believe Ezeudu is the future moving forward, and Gates is our Center, we still need a RG.
Neal had his share of ups and downs, but lets hope hes our guy.
Slayton is a FA and I feel like someone will over pay for him. WanRob showed promise, but he just blew up his knee. For a player who's game is quick cuts and agility, this could be bad.
We have a huge hole at ILB, Beavers looked AWESOME early on, but after the injury who knows what we have. We need an LB that can stop the run, we also need 1 who can cover, and play sideline to sideline. With the DL we have a decent ILB could FEAST.
Our CBs are definitely an area of need. Rodarious Williams and Cordale Flott played as expected, but both show promise. The way the league is going, you need 2 strong outside CBs because every team worth a damn have at least 2 strong WRs.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 25, 2022 12:42:17 GMT -5
Areas of need: WR, WR, OG, ILB, CB If we believe Ezeudu is the future moving forward, and Gates is our Center, we still need a RG. Neal had his share of ups and downs, but lets hope hes our guy. Slayton is a FA and I feel like someone will over pay for him. WanRob showed promise, but he just blew up his knee. For a player who's game is quick cuts and agility, this could be bad. We have a huge hole at ILB, Beavers looked AWESOME early on, but after the injury who knows what we have. We need an LB that can stop the run, we also need 1 who can cover, and play sideline to sideline. With the DL we have a decent ILB could FEAST. Our CBs are definitely an area of need. Rodarious Williams and Cordale Flott played as expected, but both show promise. The way the league is going, you need 2 strong outside CBs because every team worth a damn have at least 2 strong WRs.Then there is us
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 25, 2022 12:46:31 GMT -5
Areas of need: WR, WR, OG, ILB, CB If we believe Ezeudu is the future moving forward, and Gates is our Center, we still need a RG. Neal had his share of ups and downs, but lets hope hes our guy. Slayton is a FA and I feel like someone will over pay for him. WanRob showed promise, but he just blew up his knee. For a player who's game is quick cuts and agility, this could be bad. We have a huge hole at ILB, Beavers looked AWESOME early on, but after the injury who knows what we have. We need an LB that can stop the run, we also need 1 who can cover, and play sideline to sideline. With the DL we have a decent ILB could FEAST. Our CBs are definitely an area of need. Rodarious Williams and Cordale Flott played as expected, but both show promise. The way the league is going, you need 2 strong outside CBs because every team worth a damn have at least 2 strong WRs.Then there is us That's why we need to... -Re-sign Slayton, sign another FA WR, and draft 1 more -Re-sign Slayton and draft 2 more WRs -Sign FA WR and draft 2
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Post by kerryisdaman on Nov 25, 2022 12:48:53 GMT -5
Areas of need: WR, WR, OG, ILB, CB If we believe Ezeudu is the future moving forward, and Gates is our Center, we still need a RG.Neal had his share of ups and downs, but lets hope hes our guy. Slayton is a FA and I feel like someone will over pay for him. WanRob showed promise, but he just blew up his knee. For a player who's game is quick cuts and agility, this could be bad. We have a huge hole at ILB, Beavers looked AWESOME early on, but after the injury who knows what we have. We need an LB that can stop the run, we also need 1 who can cover, and play sideline to sideline. With the DL we have a decent ILB could FEAST. Our CBs are definitely an area of need. Rodarious Williams and Cordale Flott played as expected, but both show promise. The way the league is going, you need 2 strong outside CBs because every team worth a damn have at least 2 strong WRs. Is it just me or has Glow been regressing a lot?
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Post by McCherry on Nov 25, 2022 12:50:11 GMT -5
Peart and Lemieux are under contract next year at the vet minimum. They’re not going anywhere.
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 25, 2022 12:51:48 GMT -5
Areas of need: WR, WR, OG, ILB, CB If we believe Ezeudu is the future moving forward, and Gates is our Center, we still need a RG.Neal had his share of ups and downs, but lets hope hes our guy. Slayton is a FA and I feel like someone will over pay for him. WanRob showed promise, but he just blew up his knee. For a player who's game is quick cuts and agility, this could be bad. We have a huge hole at ILB, Beavers looked AWESOME early on, but after the injury who knows what we have. We need an LB that can stop the run, we also need 1 who can cover, and play sideline to sideline. With the DL we have a decent ILB could FEAST. Our CBs are definitely an area of need. Rodarious Williams and Cordale Flott played as expected, but both show promise. The way the league is going, you need 2 strong outside CBs because every team worth a damn have at least 2 strong WRs. Is it just me or has Glow been regressing a lot? I was expecting average quality play, what we are getting is another Lemieux. At this point he is making me miss John Jerry, LOL
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 25, 2022 12:52:43 GMT -5
Peart and Lemieux are under contract next year at the vet minimum. They’re not going anywhere. I don't want to give up on Peart just yet... I feel like he could show something at OG. At worst he is a depth player next season
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 25, 2022 12:52:53 GMT -5
Peart and Lemieux are under contract next year at the vet minimum. They’re not going anywhere. I don't want to give up on Peart just yet... I feel like he could show something at OG. At worst he is a depth player next season
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Post by fifthavephil on Nov 25, 2022 12:59:56 GMT -5
Areas of need: WR, WR, OG, ILB, CB If we believe Ezeudu is the future moving forward, and Gates is our Center, we still need a RG. Neal had his share of ups and downs, but lets hope hes our guy. Slayton is a FA and I feel like someone will over pay for him. WanRob showed promise, but he just blew up his knee. For a player who's game is quick cuts and agility, this could be bad. We have a huge hole at ILB, Beavers looked AWESOME early on, but after the injury who knows what we have. We need an LB that can stop the run, we also need 1 who can cover, and play sideline to sideline. With the DL we have a decent ILB could FEAST. Our CBs are definitely an area of need. Rodarious Williams and Cordale Flott played as expected, but both show promise. The way the league is going, you need 2 strong outside CBs because every team worth a damn have at least 2 strong WRs. Agree, on WR and CB. Can not rely on Wandale and Aaron Robinson. To return 100% early in the season. Giants first two pick should be WR / CB. IIllinois, CB Witherspoon like his aggressiveness and coverage.
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 25, 2022 13:04:15 GMT -5
Areas of need: WR, WR, OG, ILB, CB If we believe Ezeudu is the future moving forward, and Gates is our Center, we still need a RG. Neal had his share of ups and downs, but lets hope hes our guy. Slayton is a FA and I feel like someone will over pay for him. WanRob showed promise, but he just blew up his knee. For a player who's game is quick cuts and agility, this could be bad. We have a huge hole at ILB, Beavers looked AWESOME early on, but after the injury who knows what we have. We need an LB that can stop the run, we also need 1 who can cover, and play sideline to sideline. With the DL we have a decent ILB could FEAST. Our CBs are definitely an area of need. Rodarious Williams and Cordale Flott played as expected, but both show promise. The way the league is going, you need 2 strong outside CBs because every team worth a damn have at least 2 strong WRs. Agree, on WR and CB. Can not rely on Wandale and Aaron Robinson. To return 100% early in the season. Giants first two pick should be WR / CB. IIllinois, CB Witherspoon like his aggressiveness and coverage. I was totally on board with Robinson as our #2 cb, but he wasn't looking too hot before injury. Now after injury I'm less confident in him taking over as #2. Our 1st 4 picks have to be some combo of CB, WR, OG, and ILB
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 25, 2022 13:07:19 GMT -5
The remaining games will be a true testament weather Roddy Will or Cordale can be anything more than depth.
I was big on Williams coming out of college so it would be nice to see him succeed
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Post by hadenough on Nov 25, 2022 13:09:11 GMT -5
Peart and Lemieux are under contract next year at the vet minimum. They’re not going anywhere. I don't want to give up on Peart just yet... I feel like he could show something at OG. At worst he is a depth player next season I always liked Pearts skill, but there were rumblings last year he wasn’t into it. I think both he and Lemiuex are gone. There’s no indication they can help this team. They save like $2 mil by cutting them.
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Post by miggs on Nov 25, 2022 13:09:35 GMT -5
Giants didn't throw to Robinson much before his injury. Bad mistake.
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Post by Bigjeep on Nov 26, 2022 7:54:47 GMT -5
I think we have something like 28 FA after this year! Most will be gone. Most of this roster are fill ins because of the cap mess Gettleman left us! We are at the bottom of the rebuild and most likely will pick in the middle of the draft next year, not good. I'm sure there will be a few players that we might want to keep if we can. Once they get on the merry-go-round, no one knows where they will get off!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 8:02:52 GMT -5
I will say these fans need to go..
USMCVET miggs kerryisdaman
If I missed someone I'm sorry..
GO GIANTS!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 8:26:49 GMT -5
I will say these fans need to go..USMCVET miggs kerryisdaman If I missed someone I'm sorry.. GO GIANTS!! You ain’t no good
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Post by TEM on Nov 26, 2022 9:05:58 GMT -5
I will say these fans need to go..USMCVET miggs kerryisdaman If I missed someone I'm sorry.. GO GIANTS!! You ain’t no good You do realize he red font-ed it (a joke) All kidding aside. You know what needs to go, imitation anything. Imitation Vanella WTF is that? Imitation chocolate syrup. Who the hell want to put that in their milk? The biggest is Imitation meat. F That S###. Impossible burger. It is called that for a reason because there is no substitution for the real thing.
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Post by Nite on Nov 26, 2022 9:18:13 GMT -5
You do realize he red font-ed it (a joke) All kidding aside. You know what needs to go, imitation anything. Imitation Vanella WTF is that? Imitation chocolate syrup. Who the hell want to put that in their milk? The biggest is Imitation meat. F That S###. Impossible burger. It is called that for a reason because there is no substitution for the real thing. Yeah and I hate all those fake heart attack and strokes too. Also prefer the real thing.... Jest kidding TEM hope u r not one of those who goes to pieces so fast that bystanders get hurt by the shrapnel...
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Post by TEM on Nov 26, 2022 9:49:30 GMT -5
You do realize he red font-ed it (a joke) All kidding aside. You know what needs to go, imitation anything. Imitation Vanella WTF is that? Imitation chocolate syrup. Who the hell want to put that in their milk? The biggest is Imitation meat. F That S###. Impossible burger. It is called that for a reason because there is no substitution for the real thing. Yeah and I hate all those fake heart attack and strokes too. Also prefer the real thing.... Jest kidding TEM hope u r not one of those who goes to pieces so fast that bystanders get hurt by the shrapnel... Na, I have had so much adversity in my life with my Wife's mother's assisted living facility over the past 2 years. We both feel the trivial has become a welcome friend as opposed as the adversary some see it as.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 26, 2022 10:40:39 GMT -5
Agree, on WR and CB. Can not rely on Wandale and Aaron Robinson. To return 100% early in the season. Giants first two pick should be WR / CB. IIllinois, CB Witherspoon like his aggressiveness and coverage. I was totally on board with Robinson as our #2 cb, but he wasn't looking too hot before injury. Now after injury I'm less confident in him taking over as #2. Our 1st 4 picks have to be some combo of CB, WR, OG, and ILB I think OG is becoming more clear Bredeson was grading above average before injury and EZ is getting better every time out his athleticism is exceptional for the position, it takes top 5 picks a year or 2 to develop. My hope is we will be good there. I think WR / CB / ILB are 1a b and c. Actually the last couple games before injury Robinson settled down my thought here is he goes to the slot because think this is year 4 for Holmes and we draft a natural Boundary Corner. What do you guys think on this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 11:07:48 GMT -5
You do realize he red font-ed it (a joke) All kidding aside. You know what needs to go, imitation anything. Imitation Vanella WTF is that? Imitation chocolate syrup. Who the hell want to put that in their milk? The biggest is Imitation meat. F That S###. Impossible burger. It is called that for a reason because there is no substitution for the real thing. Yeah I know. I don’t use red font. I just type.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 12:28:03 GMT -5
You do realize he red font-ed it (a joke) All kidding aside. You know what needs to go, imitation anything. Imitation Vanella WTF is that? Imitation chocolate syrup. Who the hell want to put that in their milk? The biggest is Imitation meat. F That S###. Impossible burger. It is called that for a reason because there is no substitution for the real thing. Yeah I know. I don’t use red font. I just type. Red fonts are not cherry flavored....hell, they aren't even crayons
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Post by McCherry on Nov 26, 2022 12:29:59 GMT -5
Agree, on WR and CB. Can not rely on Wandale and Aaron Robinson. To return 100% early in the season. Giants first two pick should be WR / CB. IIllinois, CB Witherspoon like his aggressiveness and coverage. I was totally on board with Robinson as our #2 cb, but he wasn't looking too hot before injury. Now after injury I'm less confident in him taking over as #2. Our 1st 4 picks have to be some combo of CB, WR, OG, and ILB He just had a breakout game before the injury. I don’t have questions about his ability, durability is another thing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 12:36:44 GMT -5
I’m not going to interact on this thread. This is for other’s opinions and I will listen. I’m pretty sure everyone here knows I’m a Jones guy and would love to have him stay. I want to leave him out of the conversation. I mostly want to focus on the Offensive Line, Defensive Line, LBs and Secondary. We know where we stand with WRs, RBs, TE, etc. So, who stays and who goes? Let me know what you think. I’m pretty sure we wanna get rid of Peart and Lemieux…obvious reasons. What else can you guys tell me? Anyone want to get rid of Lawrence? I really don’t but I’ve heard some on here killing him. Let’s go…you guys have the floor.
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