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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 13:07:16 GMT -5
I was totally on board with Robinson as our #2 cb, but he wasn't looking too hot before injury. Now after injury I'm less confident in him taking over as #2. Our 1st 4 picks have to be some combo of CB, WR, OG, and ILB I think OG is becoming more clear Bredeson was grading above average before injury and EZ is getting better every time out his athleticism is exceptional for the position, it takes top 5 picks a year or 2 to develop. My hope is we will be good there. I think WR / CB / ILB are 1a b and c. Actually the last couple games before injury Robinson settled down my thought here is he goes to the slot because think this is year 4 for Holmes and we draft a natural Boundary Corner. What do you guys think on this. Resign Moreau as the #2 since he has earned it. I'm not in a agreement the Giants higher needs are at the perimeter. Someone with great skills as a Center/Guard.. Inside LBer with sideline to sideline skills.. A pure pass rusher is always a priority..
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 26, 2022 13:36:46 GMT -5
I think OG is becoming more clear Bredeson was grading above average before injury and EZ is getting better every time out his athleticism is exceptional for the position, it takes top 5 picks a year or 2 to develop. My hope is we will be good there. I think WR / CB / ILB are 1a b and c. Actually the last couple games before injury Robinson settled down my thought here is he goes to the slot because think this is year 4 for Holmes and we draft a natural Boundary Corner. What do you guys think on this. Resign Moreau as the #2 since he has earned it. I'm not in a agreement the Giants higher needs are at the perimeter. Someone with great skills as a Center/Guard.. Inside LBer with sideline to sideline skills.. A pure pass rusher is always a priority.. Moreau fits Winks system for sure. ILB is way high on the list. I think Thibs is gonna get there as a pass rusher he was held a ton and still got there. We will see come March who the coaches and front office decides to extend and who gets to walk.
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Post by TEM on Nov 26, 2022 13:39:28 GMT -5
You do realize he red font-ed it (a joke) All kidding aside. You know what needs to go, imitation anything. Imitation Vanella WTF is that? Imitation chocolate syrup. Who the hell want to put that in their milk? The biggest is Imitation meat. F That S###. Impossible burger. It is called that for a reason because there is no substitution for the real thing. What's your take on cellular agriculture and cellular aquaculture? I'm all for it. And no doubt it is the future of meat. Cellular Agriculture? is that growing weed in your basement? Just kidding I would never eat lab grown meat. There is too much latitude for nefarious elements to be placed into it. Mary Shelly gave us a warning not to circumvent Mother nature's laws. To me it is Bad enough with all the hormones and Antibiotics that is placed into the non-organic meat
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Post by TEM on Nov 26, 2022 13:48:34 GMT -5
Cellular Agriculture? is that growing weed in your basement? No but what's your take on that? lol It's taking cells from, say a cow, and growing meat from it using precision fermentation and other technologies. If someone puts that piece of meat on your plate without you knowing it (think Sanka commercials) you'd never know the difference. On a cellular/DNA level it is meat from a cow. Read my edit.
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Post by lt56 on Nov 26, 2022 13:49:14 GMT -5
get rid of Big Dex?
what trolling Jackass is suggesting that with the year he is having
by the way enough of drafting Lineman please! you have the Bookends now you have to find Interior which is suppose to be easier to do and NO it shouldn't take another 1st round pick to find a Guard and/or Center. Have to develop Ezeudu at Left Guard then you can draft a Center in the Middle Rounds
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 13:49:58 GMT -5
I’m not going to interact on this thread. This is for other’s opinions and I will listen. I’m pretty sure everyone here knows I’m a Jones guy and would love to have him stay. I want to leave him out of the conversation. I mostly want to focus on the Offensive Line, Defensive Line, LBs and Secondary. We know where we stand with WRs, RBs, TE, etc. So, who stays and who goes? Let me know what you think. I’m pretty sure we wanna get rid of Peart and Lemieux…obvious reasons. What else can you guys tell me? Anyone want to get rid of Lawrence? I really don’t but I’ve heard some on here killing him. Let’s go…you guys have the floor. What’s wrong? I don’t want to get rid of Lawrence. I remember reading posts from others saying they do. Like I said I’d like to find out why.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 14:02:12 GMT -5
What’s wrong? I don’t want to get rid of Lawrence. I remember reading posts from others saying they do. Like I said I’d like to find out why. Please provide so we can ridicule said posters
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 15:22:02 GMT -5
What’s wrong? I don’t want to get rid of Lawrence. I remember reading posts from others saying they do. Like I said I’d like to find out why. Please provide so we can ridicule said posters I’m at my mother in laws frying a turkey right now.😋Look back in some archives you’ll see. And they want to get rid of Williams too. Stupid idea.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 15:23:34 GMT -5
Please provide so we can ridicule said posters I’m at my mother in laws frying a turkey right now.😋Look back in some archives you’ll see. And they want to get rid of Williams too. Stupid idea. Keeping Williams at $32 million is stupid..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 15:40:04 GMT -5
I’m at my mother in laws frying a turkey right now.😋Look back in some archives you’ll see. And they want to get rid of Williams too. Stupid idea. Keeping Williams at $32 million is stupid.. Like I said…not debating anyone.I want to here what you all figure.
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Post by McCherry on Nov 26, 2022 16:03:27 GMT -5
Barkley, Jones, Love and Gates are the only Giants free agents I would prioritize. Everyone else is replaceable.
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Post by TEM on Nov 26, 2022 16:28:13 GMT -5
Cellular Agriculture? is that growing weed in your basement? Just kidding I would never eat lab grown meat. There is too much latitude for nefarious elements to be placed into it. Mary Shelly gave us a warning not to circumvent Mother nature's laws. To me it is Bad enough with all the hormones and Antibiotics that is placed into the non-organic meat That's an image... your steak coming alive on your plate and attacking you. I've been researching it a lot and as with every other product in our supply chain there will be companies that do it right and others that don't. There's no doubt that this is the future of our meat industry. And the companies that do it right will product meat that you'd never know the difference if it weren't for the label disclosures. Not a fan of Lab food.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 17:36:00 GMT -5
Keeping Williams at $32 million is stupid.. Like I said…not debating anyone.I want to here what you all figure.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Nov 26, 2022 18:53:53 GMT -5
OK, First I think and agree with just about everyone that we need a powerful Guard on our OL. I would love to see a big strong OT and move him to Guard just so we have depth incase one of our bookend OT's go down like this year.
If were playing Gates at C or G we still need a player to fill the other spot. I would also keep Feliciano and EZ cause they might be starters as well.
A top notch CB especially in Winks defense cause they play so much man defense. A big fast Corner with good hands as long as were wishful thinking.
ILB maybe 2 of them. I do like Jaylon Smith, I don't know if Azees can play inside and be effective possibly worth trying if we want to go OLB that can pass rush. At the very least we could use the depth.
WR without a doubt, how many could we get ? 1 in FA and 1 in the draft, plus re-sign Slayton.
I still think we could win with DJ and SQB. But we could use another strong RB. Don't think that's Dabol's style though.
Perhaps another DE to go with Dex and Leo
Dare I even bring up a PR-KR with hands and speed.
I would also like to re-sign Love.
That should be enough for us to have a winning team next year in the NFL.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 26, 2022 19:03:57 GMT -5
I’m not going to interact on this thread. This is for other’s opinions and I will listen. I’m pretty sure everyone here knows I’m a Jones guy and would love to have him stay. I want to leave him out of the conversation. I mostly want to focus on the Offensive Line, Defensive Line, LBs and Secondary. We know where we stand with WRs, RBs, TE, etc. So, who stays and who goes? Let me know what you think. I’m pretty sure we wanna get rid of Peart and Lemieux…obvious reasons. What else can you guys tell me? Anyone want to get rid of Lawrence? I really don’t but I’ve heard some on here killing him. Let’s go…you guys have the floor. Who has been killing Lawrence!?!?! Dude is having a STELLAR season yes but for some reason I think he was doing much better when Leo was out
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 26, 2022 19:07:50 GMT -5
I will say these fans need to go..USMCVET miggs kerryisdaman If I missed someone I'm sorry.. GO GIANTS!! lmbo
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 26, 2022 19:12:34 GMT -5
I’m at my mother in laws frying a turkey right now.😋Look back in some archives you’ll see. And they want to get rid of Williams too. Stupid idea. Keeping Williams at $32 million is stupid.. yeah i'm not seeing Williams be as destructive this year IMO and when he was out it seemed Dex was more destructive so idk man. If he takes a pay cut then sure and if we think he's worth even what number they come up with
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Post by TEM on Nov 26, 2022 19:39:30 GMT -5
Understandable. But given the insane amount of resources it takes to grow 1 lbs of meat and the inevitable fresh water crisis, lab food is the future. I do see it that way. I make the drive down 81 to Blacksburg. All beef farms.
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Post by McCherry on Nov 26, 2022 20:38:06 GMT -5
Barkley, Jones, Love and Gates are the only Giants free agents I would prioritize. Everyone else is replaceable. I'd easily argue Lawrence is more of a priority over everyone you listed. Except Lawrence is not a free agent this year.
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Post by giantsalmon on Nov 27, 2022 9:59:21 GMT -5
I see Lawrence a foundational piece. I also see Love and Gates this way. As for Williams they will need to get him to take a pay cut or restructure. He can continue strong play but no doubt is benefiting from that beast next to him. When it all shakes out I don't think we will end up extending Barkley. It will be a tag or he will take the highest offer. I am in agreement that Lemieux and Peart cannot keep roster spots just because of low cost. Beane/Schoen grew to have a reputation of building good depth at reasonable cost. I think we are seeing some of that with NYG already and will see more in the future. By this time last season NYG had become unwatchable and laughing stocks. I now eagerly look forward to each game even with the added challenges they have been facing. Trust the process. Yes, sometimes that means shedding some talent along the way because they don't fit their character/team concept. I'm very cool with this.
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Post by miggs on Nov 27, 2022 10:16:17 GMT -5
I will say these fans need to go..USMCVET miggs kerryisdaman If I missed someone I'm sorry.. GO GIANTS!! So you want posters who said the Giants would do well at the beginning of the season to leave? We're here for you bro.
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 27, 2022 13:29:58 GMT -5
Who has been killing Lawrence!?!?! Dude is having a STELLAR season yes but for some reason I think he was doing much better when Leo was out That's crazy, how would that make sense. LW is 1 of the best in the league at his position
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 27, 2022 13:34:43 GMT -5
I was totally on board with Robinson as our #2 cb, but he wasn't looking too hot before injury. Now after injury I'm less confident in him taking over as #2. Our 1st 4 picks have to be some combo of CB, WR, OG, and ILB I think OG is becoming more clear Bredeson was grading above average before injury and EZ is getting better every time out his athleticism is exceptional for the position, it takes top 5 picks a year or 2 to develop. My hope is we will be good there. I think WR / CB / ILB are 1a b and c. Actually the last couple games before injury Robinson settled down my thought here is he goes to the slot because think this is year 4 for Holmes and we draft a natural Boundary Corner. What do you guys think on this. I can't wait to see more of EZ, it would be awesome if we didn't have to use a high draft pick on the OL. Still not sure about Bredeson, he's better than what we have out there now, but that doesn't say much.. Then again, he's only been in the league 2yrs. I was a fan of Aaron Robinson and actually thought he might be the answer, but until his injury week 2, he was getting exposed, so who knows what we got. A natural outside cb would be tremendous for this defense, Wink loves leaving his guys in single coverage on the outside
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 27, 2022 14:24:56 GMT -5
I think OG is becoming more clear Bredeson was grading above average before injury and EZ is getting better every time out his athleticism is exceptional for the position, it takes top 5 picks a year or 2 to develop. My hope is we will be good there. I think WR / CB / ILB are 1a b and c. Actually the last couple games before injury Robinson settled down my thought here is he goes to the slot because think this is year 4 for Holmes and we draft a natural Boundary Corner. What do you guys think on this. I can't wait to see more of EZ, it would be awesome if we didn't have to use a high draft pick on the OL. Still not sure about Bredeson, he's better than what we have out there now, but that doesn't say much.. Then again, he's only been in the league 2yrs. I was a fan of Aaron Robinson and actually thought he might be the answer, but until his injury week 2, he was getting exposed, so who knows what we got. A natural outside cb would be tremendous for this defense, Wink loves leaving his guys in single coverage on the outside Bredeson was grading out pretty nicely after the first few games, when they traded for him he was one of the highest graded Guards that preseason. I think EZ has a bright future gotta see how it goes tho lots of guys with great traits bust, I think having him settle in at one position will help a ton, they moved him all over the place at NC sometimes multiple spots in the same game.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 27, 2022 14:29:47 GMT -5
yes but for some reason I think he was doing much better when Leo was out That's crazy, how would that make sense. LW is 1 of the best in the league at his position No one is crushing Lawrence we are getting killed off tackle between the DE and the OLB 5 to 7 holes are killing this defense it cropped up in the Jags game and teams have been going after it since. when you watch the ILBs on tape their is hesitation a lot they are good guard to guard most of the time getting out to tackle inside or out not so much.
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 27, 2022 15:21:00 GMT -5
That's crazy, how would that make sense. LW is 1 of the best in the league at his position No one is crushing Lawrence we are getting killed off tackle between the DE and the OLB 5 to 7 holes are killing this defense it cropped up in the Jags game and teams have been going after it since. when you watch the ILBs on tape their is hesitation a lot they are good guard to guard most of the time getting out to tackle inside or out not so much. A stud LB that can play sideline to sideline and cover would be HUUUUUUUGE. We have like nobody at ILB I DID like Beavers at ILB til he got injured
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Post by thetruth on Nov 27, 2022 15:40:02 GMT -5
No one is crushing Lawrence we are getting killed off tackle between the DE and the OLB 5 to 7 holes are killing this defense it cropped up in the Jags game and teams have been going after it since. when you watch the ILBs on tape their is hesitation a lot they are good guard to guard most of the time getting out to tackle inside or out not so much. A stud LB that can play sideline to sideline and cover would be HUUUUUUUGE. We have like nobody at ILB I DID like Beavers at ILB til he got injured agreed, i think ILB and CB are both bigger needs than WR and not close. We literally dont have any talent at ILB
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 27, 2022 18:07:42 GMT -5
A stud LB that can play sideline to sideline and cover would be HUUUUUUUGE. We have like nobody at ILB I DID like Beavers at ILB til he got injured agreed, i think ILB and CB are both bigger needs than WR and not close. We literally dont have any talent at ILB I guess it just depends on the best player available. We can't go wrong with any of those 3 positions
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 27, 2022 19:53:47 GMT -5
yes but for some reason I think he was doing much better when Leo was out That's crazy, how would that make sense. LW is 1 of the best in the league at his position yeah he is though now I don't see him making much noise numbers wise but maybe affecting in other ways. And still I personally believe Lawrence was wreaking major major having and his name was getting called often when Leo was out...........
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 7:33:31 GMT -5
That's crazy, how would that make sense. LW is 1 of the best in the league at his position yeah he is though now I don't see him making much noise numbers wise but maybe affecting in other ways. And still I personally believe Lawrence was wreaking major major having and his name was getting called often when Leo was out........... He was crushing it without Williams in there..
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