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Post by GameTime on Mar 7, 2023 17:50:49 GMT -5
only 82 mil guaranteed. Over 4 years thats not much. Come on vinnie....its a good deal. !!! I guess its never a good deal if you didnt want him either way I never said it wasn’t unless he doesn’t improve, just have to wait and see. you are a hater...
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Post by FBomb on Mar 7, 2023 17:54:08 GMT -5
I'm hoping the next move is to resign OBJ. Just to see southerner's head explode
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Post by babybulls on Mar 7, 2023 17:54:52 GMT -5
Please no, no OBJ.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 17:55:56 GMT -5
I'm hoping the next move is to resign OBJ. Just to see southerner's head explode I just got excited again 😂 "Sign OBJ" and that was before the dinner date (if you all don't remember)
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Post by FBomb on Mar 7, 2023 17:56:59 GMT -5
His reaction would be totally worth it
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 17:58:09 GMT -5
I doubt I'm far off. That is if you believe the $19MM cap hit report. The bonus has to be around $40MM. not sure how the "structure" is setup right now, but if the contract is signed it's a good deal for both parties and the numbers should make sense. Isn't that what we ALL wanted? Regardless of how it's structured, I think this deal could end up hurting us in the end. he needs to get better to make this deal work for the team. After 4 years, can we really expect that?
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Post by Speedman on Mar 7, 2023 17:59:16 GMT -5
His reaction would be totally worth it He will probably disappear for a while.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 18:02:04 GMT -5
not sure how the "structure" is setup right now, but if the contract is signed it's a good deal for both parties and the numbers should make sense. Isn't that what we ALL wanted? Regardless of how it's structured, I think this deal could end up hurting us in the end. he needs to get better to make this deal work for the team. After 4 years, can we really expect that? I believe in Schoen. Speculation period is over. They know what they are doing at this point. Imo of course.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 7, 2023 18:02:14 GMT -5
We all do. He got paid like the player he was vs Minnesota. Once the smoke settles on this contract, Ill have my final say. I think we spent too much for his talents, but the details will say a lot. So far I see Year 1 - $19M 82 guaranteed. That aint much in the NFL. But yes....will be interested to see the clauses etc Also have to keep in mind the cap went up $16 mill to $224.8 for 2023 and is expected to go up to $256 for 2024.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Mar 7, 2023 18:07:38 GMT -5
His reaction would be totally worth it He will probably disappear for a while. into a blazing cloud of anger.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 18:08:31 GMT -5
82 guaranteed. That aint much in the NFL. But yes....will be interested to see the clauses etc Also have to keep in mind the cap went up $16 mill to $224.8 for 2023 and is expected to go up to $256 for 2024. I think we'll see a big jump in Jones' salary in 2024 for that reason. Plus we can get Golladay and Leo off the books. 2023 is a bit tight capwise but 2024 looks pretty good.
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Post by DonnieYen on Mar 7, 2023 18:12:38 GMT -5
I am very happy about this Jones has the potential to be a very good franchise QB he is exactly as advertised on draft night a hybrid of Peyton Manning and Eli except he can run he is an athlete! He is kind of like Lamar Jackson!
As for Saquon we have till July so 4 months to sign him to a deal I'm not worried if not a team can offer two first round picks for him or he signs a one year tender to play one year for us!
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 7, 2023 18:13:10 GMT -5
I am happy DJ and SB remain on the team. I hope it produces Rings. We all do. He got paid like the player he was vs Minnesota. Once the smoke settles on this contract, Ill have my final say. I think we spent too much for his talents, but the details will say a lot. So far I see Year 1 - $19MThat's all I'm interested in. Maybe they still bump the remaining cap number up by getting Barkley a more year 1 friendly deal than the tag. Add in a potential Leonard Williams restructure and maybe we can improve the cap space to be in the 30-35 mill range. That's more than enough to do some nice things ahead of the draft.
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Post by piddy283 on Mar 7, 2023 18:13:25 GMT -5
Based on everything I’m hearing this is a pretty good deal for the Giants. Both sides, actually.
The fact we only guaranteed $82M, to me, is a win for the team. Sounds pretty cheap over four years.
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Post by DonnieYen on Mar 7, 2023 18:14:27 GMT -5
yeah cause i wana know how much money of the 55 we'll have left to spend For now it is 45 million since Saquon is franchise tagged. Subtracting Daniel Jones' guaranteed 2023 money is next to figure out. us fans always get the cap stuff wrong and we keep signing guys!
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Post by Speedman on Mar 7, 2023 18:15:14 GMT -5
Also have to keep in mind the cap went up $16 mill to $224.8 for 2023 and is expected to go up to $256 for 2024. I think we'll see a big jump in Jones' salary in 2024 for that reason. Plus we can get Golladay and Leo off the books. 2023 is a bit tight capwise but 2024 looks pretty good. You want to get rid of LW?
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 18:16:36 GMT -5
I think we'll see a big jump in Jones' salary in 2024 for that reason. Plus we can get Golladay and Leo off the books. 2023 is a bit tight capwise but 2024 looks pretty good. You want to get rid of LW? After 2023? In a heartbeat. He isn't close to worth that kind of money.
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 7, 2023 18:16:49 GMT -5
For now it is 45 million since Saquon is franchise tagged. Subtracting Daniel Jones' guaranteed 2023 money is next to figure out. us fans always get the cap stuff wrong and we keep signing guys! True! All I care about is Jones in 2023 gets 19 mill and so far Saquon gets 10 mill. Better than I was hoping for honestly. Worry about next year then! Looking forward to free agency and the draft!
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Post by DonnieYen on Mar 7, 2023 18:19:30 GMT -5
us fans always get the cap stuff wrong and we keep signing guys! True! All I care about is Jones in 2023 gets 19 mill and so far Saquon gets 10 mill. Better than I was hoping for honestly. Worry about next year then! Looking forward to free agency and the draft! wasn't Saquon franchise tagged? We still have to sign him...
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Post by Speedman on Mar 7, 2023 18:20:40 GMT -5
I am happy DJ and SB remain on the team. I hope it produces Rings. We all do. He got paid like the player he was vs Minnesota. Once the smoke settles on this contract, Ill have my final say. I think we spent too much for his talents, but the details will say a lot. So far I see Year 1 - $19M You think that $94M guaranteed is a bad contract?
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Post by Turbo on Mar 7, 2023 18:21:57 GMT -5
we made the playoffs with practice squad guys. It’s not as difficult as it seems. Especially with a competent front office & scouting department Are you calling Daniel Jones a practice squad guy? That's harsh.
No, he’s calling Dec a PS guy
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Post by Speedman on Mar 7, 2023 18:23:33 GMT -5
You want to get rid of LW? After 2023? In a heartbeat. He isn't close to worth that kind of money. His cap hits are because of the restructures. He played hurt in 2022. If he goes back to playing like 2021 I would like to keep him.
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Post by FBomb on Mar 7, 2023 18:27:40 GMT -5
His reaction would be totally worth it He will probably disappear for a while. Even better
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 7, 2023 18:32:36 GMT -5
True! All I care about is Jones in 2023 gets 19 mill and so far Saquon gets 10 mill. Better than I was hoping for honestly. Worry about next year then! Looking forward to free agency and the draft! wasn't Saquon franchise tagged? We still have to sign him... Right that's why I said "so far." They can bump up cap space by getting a more year 1 friendly deal as an alternative to the tag.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 18:33:01 GMT -5
After 2023? In a heartbeat. He isn't close to worth that kind of money. His cap hits are because of the restructures. He played hurt in 2022. If he goes back to playing like 2021 I would like to keep him. Well regardless, he's a free agent after next year. So no matter what, he's off the books in 2024.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Mar 7, 2023 18:34:04 GMT -5
Daniel Jones is officially our Franchise QB (for a minimum of 3 more years).
The first one we have had since Eli in his waning days.
Time to step up Mr Franchise.
Figure out how to beat the Eagles and Cowboys.
Take over games.
Lets Go!
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Post by allnygin on Mar 7, 2023 18:35:13 GMT -5
honestly, I think an OBJ return is on the horizon as well. Hopefully he's got stuff left in the tank.
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Post by nyg2 on Mar 7, 2023 18:35:55 GMT -5
I am happy DJ and SB remain on the team. I hope it produces Rings. We all do. He got paid like the player he was vs Minnesota. Once the smoke settles on this contract, Ill have my final say. I think we spent too much for his talents, but the details will say a lot. So far I see Year 1 - $19M As the saying goes “only a fool learns from his own mistakes. The wise man learns from the mistakes of others.”. Let’s hope that Jones hasn’t peaked and is able to turn into an elite QB, because if history is any indicator and he doesn’t, all this finessing of his cap number would’ve been for nothing and he will have set this team back years.
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Post by DandyDon on Mar 7, 2023 18:53:12 GMT -5
I'm glad they got a deal done. This is for MY selfish reasons.
They can backload the contract and free up money to improve the team sooner rather than later. And it freed up the tag to use on SB. If they had to tag DJ it would have been $32 mill against the cap next season with no options, and SB would be gone.
I'd be interested to see what the guaranteed money is, but given the current QB market, it's the best outcome for me as a Giants fan.
Only a DJ hater would hate this result.
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Post by DandyDon on Mar 7, 2023 18:55:50 GMT -5
honestly, I think an OBJ return is on the horizon as well. Hopefully he's got stuff left in the tank. Lol. Obj is never going to be a giant again. Nor should he.
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