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Post by giantbob71 on Mar 19, 2024 23:54:45 GMT -5
Cutting him now would bring an almost $70MM cap hit. We'd have to cut a crapload of players and still wouldn't have enough to sign our draft picks. They have no choice but to wait until 2025. My bad... you're right. Send him home and treat him like the Raiders treated Derek Carr. He just cant get hurt participating in team activities.
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Post by giantbob71 on Mar 20, 2024 0:03:53 GMT -5
The best thing to do is cut DJ now and swallow your loses...you made the bed now lie in it. If DJ sticks around and starts it will only get worse. You think Giants are a punching bag right now, it will be rock bottom when DJ stinks up the joint next year before getting hurt again. Not if, but when. it’s a risk he gets I injured and your’re on the hook yet if he does play decent the Giants could move him next off-season. It might be a Fields return yet looking at that early 2025 QB class, somebody may want him. Everything would need to go right and he is an injury risk. Rough spot DJ has a $41.6 and $58.6 million cap hits in 2025 and 2026. The reason Fields was desirable was because he was only owed $3.2 million to whoever traded for him,and it was basically a 1 year deal. No team is going to want to pick up DJ 4th year cap hit or renegotiate off that salary ($47+ million)...that's where the Cowgirls are right now. It's crazy how bad the DJ contract is...he's overpaid, a cap killer, it rewards injury, is basically unmoveable trade-wise, and also gets so expensive...makes keeping him after next year, impossible, no matter how well he plays. He'd have to play like Mahomes to make his 4th year palatable.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 20, 2024 8:12:32 GMT -5
it’s a risk he gets I injured and your’re on the hook yet if he does play decent the Giants could move him next off-season. It might be a Fields return yet looking at that early 2025 QB class, somebody may want him. Everything would need to go right and he is an injury risk. Rough spot DJ has a $41.6 and $58.6 million cap hits in 2025 and 2026. The reason Fields was desirable was because he was only owed $3.2 million to whoever traded for him,and it was basically a 1 year deal. No team is going to want to pick up DJ 4th year cap hit or renegotiate off that salary ($47+ million)...that's where the Cowgirls are right now. It's crazy how bad the DJ contract is...he's overpaid, a cap killer, it rewards injury, is basically unmoveable trade-wise, and also gets so expensive...makes keeping him after next year, impossible, no matter how well he plays. He'd have to play like Mahomes to make his 4th year palatable. It’s rough when you get practically 0% return on investment which has been the Giants way with way too many players. Even if the Giants sign a FA for dollars another walks out the door. Literally got nothing out of Jones, Waller and Neal with whomever was at Guard did nothing. Now Barkley walks along with McKinney so even though Burns is here to fill a hole two more appeared. It’s a very poorly run organization. They’re riding the coattails of yesterday and have done an absolutely horrendous job.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 20, 2024 8:35:11 GMT -5
Cutting him now would bring an almost $70MM cap hit. We'd have to cut a crapload of players and still wouldn't have enough to sign our draft picks. They have no choice but to wait until 2025. My bad... you're right. Send him home and treat him like the Raiders treated Derek Carr. That is definitely a viable option.
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 20, 2024 9:27:49 GMT -5
My bad... you're right. Send him home and treat him like the Raiders treated Derek Carr. That is definitely a viable option. Raiders did that towards the end of the season, not the whole magilla. I'm guessing that if he's recovered, DJ will be our starter week 1, but who knows where he'll be. While ACL replacement has come a long way, not everyone heals at the same speed.
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Post by miggs on Mar 21, 2024 11:36:38 GMT -5
The word is that Jones won't be able to pass a physical. If true, and if that was known for sometime, I wish we would have leaned about this earlier. The Giants going after a QB as a top priority now makes sense. season is not likely to go well without Jones at the helm. but one can hope.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 21, 2024 14:33:40 GMT -5
The word is that Jones won't be able to pass a physical. If true, and if that was known for sometime, I wish we would have leaned about this earlier. The Giants going after a QB as a top priority now makes sense. season is not likely to go well without Jones at the helm. but one can hope. "The word?" What word is that?
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 21, 2024 14:46:02 GMT -5
The word is that Jones won't be able to pass a physical. If true, and if that was known for sometime, I wish we would have leaned about this earlier. The Giants going after a QB as a top priority now makes sense. season is not likely to go well without Jones at the helm. but one can hope. You needed somebody to tell you? lol. We know you don’t watch football but something else is missing being this is new news to you. Hello???!
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Post by miggs on Mar 21, 2024 15:54:21 GMT -5
The word is that Jones won't be able to pass a physical. If true, and if that was known for sometime, I wish we would have leaned about this earlier. The Giants going after a QB as a top priority now makes sense. season is not likely to go well without Jones at the helm. but one can hope. You needed somebody to tell you? lol. We know you don’t watch football but something else is missing being this is new news to you. Hello???! I'm sure you'll be very upset if he doesn't pass his physical.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 21, 2024 17:09:03 GMT -5
You needed somebody to tell you? lol. We know you don’t watch football but something else is missing being this is new news to you. Hello???! I'm sure you'll be very upset if he doesn't pass his physical. I’m sure you will be shocked in two weeks when somebody tells you Spring arrived
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Post by mendy on Mar 21, 2024 17:14:16 GMT -5
The word is that Jones won't be able to pass a physical. If true, and if that was known for sometime, I wish we would have leaned about this earlier. The Giants going after a QB as a top priority now makes sense. season is not likely to go well without Jones at the helm. but one can hope. LOL, I think we should wait till July to cry the sky is falling.
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Post by DandyDon on Mar 21, 2024 19:44:06 GMT -5
The word is that Jones won't be able to pass a physical. If true, and if that was known for sometime, I wish we would have leaned about this earlier. The Giants going after a QB as a top priority now makes sense. season is not likely to go well without Jones at the helm. but one can hope. The only person who might know if DJ can pass a physical 7 months from now is God. And that's...... let's just say not you. 😁 I will admit he probably wouldn't pass one now.
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Post by miggs on Mar 21, 2024 20:08:00 GMT -5
The word is that Jones won't be able to pass a physical. If true, and if that was known for sometime, I wish we would have leaned about this earlier. The Giants going after a QB as a top priority now makes sense. season is not likely to go well without Jones at the helm. but one can hope. The only person who might know if DJ can pass a physical 7 months from now is God. And that's...... let's just say not you. 😁 I will admit he probably wouldn't pass one now. I don't know either, but doctors might.
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Post by Modog on Mar 21, 2024 20:22:42 GMT -5
The word is that Jones won't be able to pass a physical. If true, and if that was known for sometime, I wish we would have leaned about this earlier. The Giants going after a QB as a top priority now makes sense. season is not likely to go well without Jones at the helm. but one can hope. Where is this "word" coming from? Are you Dan Jones? That would make a lot of sense. As for "season is not likely to go well without Jones"... Sure went well with him last season. 1-5 record, 2 TDs 6 INTs, 151 passing yds avg. How will we ever replace his production??
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Post by DandyDon on Mar 21, 2024 20:43:14 GMT -5
The only person who might know if DJ can pass a physical 7 months from now is God. And that's...... let's just say not you. 😁 I will admit he probably wouldn't pass one now. I don't know either, but doctors might. If you don't know, why did you post that he wouldn't pass a physical?
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Post by DandyDon on Mar 21, 2024 20:44:43 GMT -5
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 21, 2024 20:48:34 GMT -5
season is not likely to go well without Jones at the helm. Jones at the helm: 22-37-1 You don’t even get something correct accidentally.
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Post by Modog on Mar 21, 2024 21:03:47 GMT -5
Tends to happen when you have too many cooks in the kitchen. GMs change, but one thing remains constant, things get leaked. I blame ownership
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Post by miggs on Mar 22, 2024 3:16:20 GMT -5
season is not likely to go well without Jones at the helm. Jones at the helm: 22-37-1 You don’t even get something correct accidentally. You have a very myopic view. Arguing with you is hopeless.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 22, 2024 4:52:23 GMT -5
Jones at the helm: 22-37-1 You don’t even get something correct accidentally. You have a very myopic view. Arguing with you is hopeless. lol, good one Miggs. You got your ass handed to you (surprise surprise) for being so myopic in my thread laying out long term logic.
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