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Post by odellhasfun on Jul 5, 2023 11:32:17 GMT -5
8-9
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Jul 5, 2023 11:38:27 GMT -5
10-7/11-6. Team is looking to be on the upswing but tougher schedule and injuries probably keep them around the same record as last year. Should be enough to make the playoffs again. That would be the first time the giants made the playoffs back to back since what? 08?
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Post by SG88 on Jul 5, 2023 11:48:01 GMT -5
. Better is better. I get all the (valid) "tough schedule argument" blah blah blah. If the team is better they will have a better record than last season. The schedule is tough but they are supposed to take steps forward. 10-7 You are what your record says you are. -Bill ParcellsTell that to last season's Minnesota Vikings. Lol, they had a negative point differential with their 13-4 record. It was the weirdest 13 win team I've ever seen play.
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Post by SG88 on Jul 5, 2023 11:49:55 GMT -5
11-6 and an NFC Championship appearance. Anything less would be a disappointment. We're supposed to move forward, not stay in neutral or fall back.
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Post by McCherry on Jul 5, 2023 12:11:02 GMT -5
You are what your record says you are. -Bill ParcellsTell that to last season's Minnesota Vikings. Lol, they had a negative point differential with their 13-4 record. It was the weirdest 13 win team I've ever seen play. Can't argue there. Definitely an exception to that rule.
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Post by BlueReign on Jul 6, 2023 17:31:30 GMT -5
10-7ish.
Giants are on the upswing, but not a guaranteed playoff team.
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Post by Jomo on Jul 6, 2023 18:35:50 GMT -5
This is a tough one given the schedule. Roster is stronger than last year but the schedule is tougher as well. To get to the 12/13 win range in wins we need to finish the OL, draft another shut down corner, another pass rusher and a WR that actually scares people.
9-11 wins this year is my best guess.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Jul 7, 2023 11:26:41 GMT -5
11-6
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Post by presumablygunner on Aug 30, 2023 19:09:11 GMT -5
Now that the roster is set let's revisit this thread.
Anyone have a change of heart or first time prediction?
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Post by cdngfan on Aug 31, 2023 6:22:27 GMT -5
10-7 would be a great season with this schedule.
Dallas and Philly have a head start measured in years of competent development. We’ve had 1 1/2.
We may split with Dallas but barring big injuries we’re still not at Philly’s level.
And while I think our starting lineups are significantly better than last year, we’re paper thin. A couple non-QB key injuries and we won’t get to 10-7.
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Post by inthezone on Aug 31, 2023 6:39:34 GMT -5
8-9 I hope I'm wrong and that 1st game is extremely important to get the win.
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Post by TEM on Aug 31, 2023 6:49:04 GMT -5
EDIT 7-10 wins. If we stay healthy. We lack depth in key areas of the team. (rotation may be shaky). Will be less if just a few keystone players miss significant time. The next man up model is no different than a roll of the dice.
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Post by miggs on Aug 31, 2023 7:15:31 GMT -5
An optimistic Giants base! You've come a long way! New York, New York!
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Post by GameTime on Aug 31, 2023 7:20:52 GMT -5
8-9 I hope I'm wrong and that 1st game is extremely important to get the win. no doubt. For few reasons too. Bottom line is **** dallas...lol
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Post by armyvet2023 on Aug 31, 2023 7:25:25 GMT -5
I think the first 6 games is going to set the tone for the season. If we finish 500 or better, I say 11-6
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Post by inthezone on Aug 31, 2023 7:34:09 GMT -5
I think the first 6 games is going to set the tone for the season. If we finish 500 or better, I say 11-6 Going 8-3 the rest of the way will be a challenge but I do think being 3-3 after 6 games will be very encouraging they have improved enough to make run at the playoffs.
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Post by idkaname on Aug 31, 2023 8:35:08 GMT -5
You are what your record says you are. -Bill ParcellsTell that to last season's Minnesota Vikings. Lol, they had a negative point differential with their 13-4 record. It was the weirdest 13 win team I've ever seen play. like they're the first 12/13 win team to get bounced round 1?
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Post by idkaname on Aug 31, 2023 8:36:19 GMT -5
EDIT 7-10 wins. If we stay healthy. We lack depth in key areas of the team. (rotation may be shaky). Will be less if just a few keystone players miss significant time. The next man up model is no different than a roll of the dice. if you're going to go the depth/injury route...you gotta apply that to every team lol
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Post by TEM on Aug 31, 2023 9:17:16 GMT -5
EDIT 7-10 wins. If we stay healthy. We lack depth in key areas of the team. (rotation may be shaky). Will be less if just a few keystone players miss significant time. The next man up model is no different than a roll of the dice. if you're going to go the depth/injury route...you gotta apply that to every team lol Our cap spending is unbalanced. That is true metric of lack of depth on the roster. (I posted that spending breakdown yesterday.)
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Post by landetamustache on Aug 31, 2023 9:21:22 GMT -5
7-10
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Post by SG88 on Aug 31, 2023 11:01:21 GMT -5
Now that the roster is set let's revisit this thread. Anyone have a change of heart or first time prediction? No change of heart here. NFC Championship or bust. Balls to the wall
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Post by presumablygunner on Aug 31, 2023 11:03:22 GMT -5
Yup, especially injuries, in which we seem to lead the league. Especially in preseason. Not sure how making a prediction makes sense at this point. New turf = less injuries. turned out to be true
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Post by SG88 on Aug 31, 2023 11:04:17 GMT -5
Tell that to last season's Minnesota Vikings. Lol, they had a negative point differential with their 13-4 record. It was the weirdest 13 win team I've ever seen play. like they're the first 12/13 win team to get bounced round 1? No they're not. The Saints I think were 12-4 when they lost to the Seahawks in that wild card game a while ago. The Marshawn Lynch play. The negative point differential and the amount of close games they were in made them weird. At least to me.
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Post by SG88 on Aug 31, 2023 11:04:50 GMT -5
New turf = less injuries. turned out to be true Knock on wood.
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Post by SG88 on Aug 31, 2023 11:15:24 GMT -5
There's actually a lot to like about the Giants. They have a better roster and this head coach is something special. Yes, it is not a finished product, but I will say that this team is nowhere near the pushover it was 2 years ago. I am all in on Brian Daboll and all in on this team making that jump to the NFC Championship (barring any significant injuries). I find the predictions of being under .500 funny. As fans, we need to raise the bar instead of expecting middling results and then using the schedule as an excuse for that kind of prediction.
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Post by Nick6475 on Aug 31, 2023 11:28:18 GMT -5
There's actually a lot to like about the Giants. They have a better roster and this head coach is something special. Yes, it is not a finished product, but I will say that this team is nowhere near the pushover it was 2 years ago. I am all in on Brian Daboll and all in on this team making that jump to the NFC Championship (barring any significant injuries). I find the predictions of being under .500 funny. As fans, we need to raise the bar instead of expecting middling results and then using the schedule as an excuse for that kind of prediction. There is a fine line between "excuse" and logical reason. "The New York Giants tallied nine wins last season, and their over/under for 2023 is set at 7.5 victories. The New York Giants' current odds to win the Super Bowl (+5280) rank them 20th in the NFL. Bookmakers have given them +163 odds to advance to the playoffs."
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Post by presumablygunner on Aug 31, 2023 11:30:49 GMT -5
There's actually a lot to like about the Giants. They have a better roster and this head coach is something special. Yes, it is not a finished product, but I will say that this team is nowhere near the pushover it was 2 years ago. I am all in on Brian Daboll and all in on this team making that jump to the NFC Championship (barring any significant injuries). I find the predictions of being under .500 funny. As fans, we need to raise the bar instead of expecting middling results and then using the schedule as an excuse for that kind of prediction. I'm convinced some posters are nihilist and operate better on the board when things are a shitshow. They had a good 10 year run of negativity, now their run is up. I'm not sure they can cope with success any longer.
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Post by myronguyton on Aug 31, 2023 11:32:01 GMT -5
if you're going to go the depth/injury route...you gotta apply that to every team lol Our cap spending is unbalanced. That is true metric of lack of depth on the roster. (I posted that spending breakdown yesterday.) Or maybe it's a true metric of a young team. We have a lot of starters playing on rookie contracts. Isaiah Hodgins Evan Neal John Michael Schmitz Tre Hawkins Deonte Banks Kayvon Thibodeaux Xavier McKinney Darius Slayton Jaylin Hyatt Ben Bredeson Mark Glowinski Paris Campbell Sterling Shepherd Wan'dale Robinson Jihad Ward Azeez Ojulari Isiah Simmons Jason Pinnock These are all key players who are either on rookie contracts or are playing on relatively inexpensive contracts. I dont think your argument about cap balance relating to a lack of depth holds up. Furthermore, depth players shouldn't be eating up a ton of csp space anyway. Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding your point?
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Post by presumablygunner on Aug 31, 2023 11:32:59 GMT -5
There's actually a lot to like about the Giants. They have a better roster and this head coach is something special. Yes, it is not a finished product, but I will say that this team is nowhere near the pushover it was 2 years ago. I am all in on Brian Daboll and all in on this team making that jump to the NFC Championship (barring any significant injuries). I find the predictions of being under .500 funny. As fans, we need to raise the bar instead of expecting middling results and then using the schedule as an excuse for that kind of prediction. There is a fine line between "excuse" and logical reason. "The New York Giants tallied nine wins last season, and their over/under for 2023 is set at 7.5 victories. The New York Giants' current odds to win the Super Bowl (+5280) rank them 20th in the NFL. Bookmakers have given them +163 odds to advance to the playoffs." Last year's odds was also 7.5 games. Easy money this year.
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Post by TEM on Aug 31, 2023 11:37:02 GMT -5
Our cap spending is unbalanced. That is true metric of lack of depth on the roster. (I posted that spending breakdown yesterday.) Or maybe it's a true metric of a young team. We have a lot of starters playing on rookie contracts. Unproven question marks.
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