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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 22, 2023 18:37:59 GMT -5
Going deep to Hyatt and taking those shots is obviously something we need to do more of. Getting Wan'Dale involved short-mid range, early, is clearly going to produce results. He's shifty af as a runner. Hyatt, Waller and Robinson are a dangerous trio. Imagine how they would look with a highly talented QB in the prime of his career. Good thing Tyrod is like the "NFL Good Luck Chuck", our next QB after Ty is gonna cook Hope your right I'm worried we have some bad teams coming up they might win their way out of the top 1-5 think this QB class is more Bark than bight.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 22, 2023 18:56:23 GMT -5
The fact is this team needs average or better OL play for either one of the QBs to produce once the pressure started the Giants offense stalled. I don't know if there is a guy that can help them in the draft it sure seems like all of them will need a lot of developing. I don't know about Jones fan boys what I know is if you want your team to be good you are rotting hard for the QB to grow into a winning QB. If your rooting against it then you might have other reasons. Most fans are off Jones because it is year 5 sure the OL could and needed to be better. He showed no sign of grasping more of the more complicated playbook and had no answers when he wasn't pressured. They drafted him top 10 you give that chance to develop, it's on the Giants for not getting enough around him the first 3 years to get a good picture of what he could and could not handle. WAS' DL is one of the best in the NFL. They were going up against our back ups and back up back ups. All things considered the OL and Taylor did just fine. I didn't mention Taylor and Washingtons DL has been bad giving up a ton of run yards and and not great against the pass. I do give the makeshift OL and TT credit the OL was decent for a half plenty of time to pass room to escape Taylor made some nice throws, after Barkley scored that TD it all turned tho TT missed some important throws for conversions and the OL didn't give him chance either. All I'm saying is why would a fan quit on Jones before they got all the info unless they have some other reason. The info is in and it is time to move on when they get a chance. The reason Jones got a contract is because he played well down the stretch the reason it is structured the way it is less Guaranteed money and more like a 2year contract was to protect the team he only had 1 decent year. Just don't get the fan boy crapolla fans want the teams draft picks to do well his first 3 years he played with hot garbage then they gave him a middling OL and he gave them a reason to believe, from what I have seen he got more of the play book and is struggling with that as much as the pressure thats why it's time to move on
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Post by Danke Schoen on Oct 22, 2023 18:59:55 GMT -5
WAS' DL is one of the best in the NFL. They were going up against our back ups and back up back ups. All things considered the OL and Taylor did just fine. I didn't mention Taylor and Washingtons DL has been bad giving up a ton of run yards and and not great against the pass. I do give the makeshift OL and TT credit the OL was decent for a half plenty of time to pass room to escape Taylor made some nice throws, after Barkley scored that TD it all turned tho TT missed some important throws for conversions and the OL didn't give him chance either. All I'm saying is why would a fan quit on Jones before they got all the info unless they have some other reason. The info is in and it is time to move on when they get a chance. The reason Jones got a contract is because he played well down the stretch the reason it is structured the way it is less Guaranteed money and more like a 2year contract was to protect the team he only had 1 decent year. Just don't get the fan boy crapolla fans want the teams draft picks to do well his first 3 years he played with hot garbage then they gave him a middling OL and he gave them a reason to believe, from what I have seen he got more of the play book and is struggling with that as much as the pressure thats why it's time to move on You absolutely mentioned Taylor unless I wasn't aware that Danny Devito played today, "...either one of the QBs to produce once the pressure started the Giants offense stalled."
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 22, 2023 19:06:00 GMT -5
Right now he looks real a more real than who we run out there either one taken hits still making throws when they need them in the second half. You mean he’s not shell shocked even though he’s taken more hits and sacks than Jones? I don’t believe it! Did they win the game no with an excellent WR room and good RBs, proves the point his OL is failing him and when the competition gets tougher it's gonna get harder to score points. Giants are the JV saw what happened to them against the Bills lol they have the AFC east on deck along with the Beagles altho they play them well and 2 with then Terds.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 22, 2023 19:13:39 GMT -5
I didn't mention Taylor and Washingtons DL has been bad giving up a ton of run yards and and not great against the pass. I do give the makeshift OL and TT credit the OL was decent for a half plenty of time to pass room to escape Taylor made some nice throws, after Barkley scored that TD it all turned tho TT missed some important throws for conversions and the OL didn't give him chance either. All I'm saying is why would a fan quit on Jones before they got all the info unless they have some other reason. The info is in and it is time to move on when they get a chance. The reason Jones got a contract is because he played well down the stretch the reason it is structured the way it is less Guaranteed money and more like a 2year contract was to protect the team he only had 1 decent year. Just don't get the fan boy crapolla fans want the teams draft picks to do well his first 3 years he played with hot garbage then they gave him a middling OL and he gave them a reason to believe, from what I have seen he got more of the play book and is struggling with that as much as the pressure thats why it's time to move on You absolutely mentioned Taylor unless I wasn't aware that Danny Devito played today, "...either one of the QBs to produce once the pressure started the Giants offense stalled." Your right but that wasn't the gist but if thats what you want it to be enjoy. Has more to do with what happened once the OL was not holding up anymore at the end of the day Washington tried their asses off to give this game to the Giants. It took a defensive stand to Finnish it. Do you want me to declare Taylor should be the starter thats fine with me I'm about the Giants being better even tho right now better might not be what this team needs they need a QB.
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Post by vinnie on Oct 22, 2023 19:37:29 GMT -5
my only takeaway from this game is that WFT sucks really badly. Still nice to get a win. Nope this win is nice but it doesn't have me excited now if they could have pulled the buffalo game out I might of felt differently. I dunno Dog, Buffalo is kind of getting exposed, they lost to the 1-5 Pats today and almost lost to us. Not sure what to think of them, if they don’t get their shit together they’ll be an early exit in the playoffs if they even make it.
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Post by Nite on Oct 22, 2023 19:43:35 GMT -5
Nope this win is nice but it doesn't have me excited now if they could have pulled the buffalo game out I might of felt differently. I dunno Dog, Buffalo is kind of getting exposed, they lost to the 1-5 Pats today and almost lost to us. Not sure what to think of them, if they don’t get their shit together they’ll be an early exit in the playoffs if they even make it. You heard it here first: Miami Vs Seattle in the SB ..place ur bets!!
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Post by moecoastie on Oct 22, 2023 19:45:12 GMT -5
Just got home...watching the game now.
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Post by Nite on Oct 22, 2023 19:45:40 GMT -5
My god we won! holy sh*t another win, can barely contain my excitement!! (I also a drive a Pontiac)
Amazing what a little D and some pro executing by a NFL QB can do eh?
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 22, 2023 19:56:40 GMT -5
I dunno Dog, Buffalo is kind of getting exposed, they lost to the 1-5 Pats today and almost lost to us. Not sure what to think of them, if they don’t get their shit together they’ll be an early exit in the playoffs if they even make it. You heard it here first: Miami Vs Seattle in the SB ..place ur bets!! I’ll take action right now that it ain’t those two teams. What are you offering?
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Post by Nite on Oct 22, 2023 20:06:19 GMT -5
You heard it here first: Miami Vs Seattle in the SB ..place ur bets!! I’ll take action right now that it ain’t those two teams. What are you offering? 1) Half used can of Lysol patchouli scented 2) Joe Namath's (somewhat) used Rams Jersey.... 3) A very used 1975 AMC pacer lime green (at least thats what I think the color is) Guaranteed to start within 45 minutes 4) John Mara's unauthorized biography with preliminary title: "An Owners Life - my struggle to get the fans to love me" There is a few more but I don't want to get too crazy
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 22, 2023 20:11:43 GMT -5
Nope this win is nice but it doesn't have me excited now if they could have pulled the buffalo game out I might of felt differently. I dunno Dog, Buffalo is kind of getting exposed, they lost to the 1-5 Pats today and almost lost to us. Not sure what to think of them, if they don’t get their shit together they’ll be an early exit in the playoffs if they even make it. Agree I didn't watch today but it looks like what happens to most teams that struggle they are getting beaten in the trenches. I mean being 3-4 in the NFC you have a shot your still playing meaningful ball.
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Post by Fletch842 on Oct 22, 2023 20:20:56 GMT -5
Nope this win is nice but it doesn't have me excited now if they could have pulled the buffalo game out I might of felt differently. I dunno Dog, Buffalo is kind of getting exposed, they lost to the 1-5 Pats today and almost lost to us. Not sure what to think of them, if they don’t get their shit together they’ll be an early exit in the playoffs if they even make it. Ravens are looking like the team to beat in the afc
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Post by vinnie on Oct 22, 2023 20:30:28 GMT -5
I dunno Dog, Buffalo is kind of getting exposed, they lost to the 1-5 Pats today and almost lost to us. Not sure what to think of them, if they don’t get their shit together they’ll be an early exit in the playoffs if they even make it. Agree I didn't watch today but it looks like what happens to most teams that struggle they are getting beaten in the trenches. I mean being 3-4 in the NFC you have a shot your still playing meaningful ball. Hard for me to care about meaningful ball, I saw what happens when we play the true playoff contenders and I don’t see that changing this year or even next year. This could be like last year all over again, beat the shitty teams, maybe beat a decent team because every good team loses to a bad team at least knce a year, then get squashed again by a better team. I’m not interested in playoff participation trophies like last year. What I want to see is overall improvement on both sides of the ball against the GOOD teams. We don’t even have to win, just start looking competent and competitive. Beating Vegas, NE, GB, NO, etc don’t do much for me at all. I’d rather lose a close game to Philthy than beat the hapless Raiders.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Oct 22, 2023 20:31:49 GMT -5
Our defense played an exceptional game. Dex, and Banks were one man gangs on defense. And Leo was prominant with big plays all game. A sack and a blocked FG. Tyrod throws nice long passes. Receivers can run under them. Tyrod should be called "Tyrod Dimes". Should I say it, Oh hell someone will "We Have a QB Controversy". Saquon gutted it out, hope that arm isn't serious. All of a sudden the last 2 games the Giant defense looks magnificent. Like Night and Day. The OL made it work vs a damn good D Line, Tyrod makes it work behind this OL. Saquon has been running in Tyrod's offense in all fairness. This game had more twists than a pretzel. A good thin Washington is as inept as we are. A lot to talk about this week. They didn't in the second half. McLaurin destroyed the secondary, and I guarantee nobody here thought Washington wouldn't score at the end. We made a couple plays when we needed to, but we're lucky we were playing who we were. Yea your right, I was just so thrilled with a victory I got a little carried away. Were lucky Washington is as inept as we are. But the defense did save the day. Their OL is as porous as ours. Dex owned the middle of their OL. Their Center was Gates and Dex just ran over him all day. Washington kept shooting themselves in the foot with penalties and mistakes all day.
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Post by McCherry on Oct 22, 2023 20:37:59 GMT -5
They didn't in the second half. McLaurin destroyed the secondary, and I guarantee nobody here thought Washington wouldn't score at the end. We made a couple plays when we needed to, but we're lucky we were playing who we were. Yea your right, I was just so thrilled with a victory I got a little carried away. Were lucky Washington is as inept as we are. But the defense did save the day. Their OL is as porous as ours. Dex owned the middle of their OL. Their Center was Gates and Dex just ran over him all day. Washington kept shooting themselves in the foot with penalties and mistakes all day. Having let it sink in, I don't mean to take away your enthusiasm or anything from the D. The Shep fumble really changed momentum, and the D has showed up big for 2 weeks and made the play at the end zone when they needed to.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 22, 2023 20:38:50 GMT -5
Agree I didn't watch today but it looks like what happens to most teams that struggle they are getting beaten in the trenches. I mean being 3-4 in the NFC you have a shot your still playing meaningful ball. Hard for me to care about meaningful ball, I saw what happens when we play the true playoff contenders and I don’t see that changing this year or even next year. This could be like last year all over again, beat the shitty teams, maybe beat a decent team because every good team loses to a bad team at least knce a year, then get squashed again by a better team. I’m not interested in playoff participation trophies like last year. What I want to see is overall improvement on both sides of the ball against the GOOD teams. We don’t even have to win, just start looking competent and competitive. Beating Vegas, NE, GB, NO, etc don’t do much for me at all. I’d rather lose a close game to Philthy than beat the hapless Raiders. I used to say that all the time that the team needs to be competitive first they shredded me here lol but I don't care what people think they deserve their own opinions I just know till we can go toe to toe with some of these teams nothing really matters. I don't agree completely tho if they can get into the playoffs they learn the intensity and the attention to detail thats needed to win there and what it takes to get there. That said they need some really good draft capital wether it is top 5 or top 10just not sure what they will do with it stay and pick or trade and build.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Oct 22, 2023 20:51:49 GMT -5
Yea your right, I was just so thrilled with a victory I got a little carried away. Were lucky Washington is as inept as we are. But the defense did save the day. Their OL is as porous as ours. Dex owned the middle of their OL. Their Center was Gates and Dex just ran over him all day. Washington kept shooting themselves in the foot with penalties and mistakes all day. Having let it sink in, I don't mean to take away your enthusiasm or anything from the D. The Shep fumble really changed momentum, and the D has showed up big for 2 weeks and made the play at the end zone when they needed to. And MC I wrote in another thread that when our offense scored 2 TD's in the 1st half I almost needed oxygen. lol
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 22, 2023 21:00:31 GMT -5
Can we get him? Listen to the whole response.
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Post by vinnie on Oct 22, 2023 21:05:51 GMT -5
Hard for me to care about meaningful ball, I saw what happens when we play the true playoff contenders and I don’t see that changing this year or even next year. This could be like last year all over again, beat the shitty teams, maybe beat a decent team because every good team loses to a bad team at least knce a year, then get squashed again by a better team. I’m not interested in playoff participation trophies like last year. What I want to see is overall improvement on both sides of the ball against the GOOD teams. We don’t even have to win, just start looking competent and competitive. Beating Vegas, NE, GB, NO, etc don’t do much for me at all. I’d rather lose a close game to Philthy than beat the hapless Raiders. I used to say that all the time that the team needs to be competitive first they shredded me here lol but I don't care what people think they deserve their own opinions I just know till we can go toe to toe with some of these teams nothing really matters. I don't agree completely tho if they can get into the playoffs they learn the intensity and the attention to detail thats needed to win there and what it takes to get there. That said they need some really good draft capital wether it is top 5 or top 10just not sure what they will do with it stay and pick or trade and build. Well they apparently skipped the playoff lesson last year because they haven’t learned shit. Schoen definitely needs to hit on next years draft and pick up some above average FA’s…and a new QB.
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Post by vinnie on Oct 22, 2023 21:07:31 GMT -5
Can we get him? Listen to the whole response. Lol, I read his quote. Based on what he said, I don’t think he would feel any different here. He wants to play for a legit playoff team, we would be an almost lateral move for him.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 22, 2023 21:10:08 GMT -5
I used to say that all the time that the team needs to be competitive first they shredded me here lol but I don't care what people think they deserve their own opinions I just know till we can go toe to toe with some of these teams nothing really matters. I don't agree completely tho if they can get into the playoffs they learn the intensity and the attention to detail thats needed to win there and what it takes to get there. That said they need some really good draft capital wether it is top 5 or top 10just not sure what they will do with it stay and pick or trade and build. Well they apparently skipped the playoff lesson last year because they haven’t learned shit. Schoen definitely needs to hit on next years draft and pick up some above average FA’s…and a new QB. I think they got something out of it they certainly are not quitters also some of the draft licks are stating to get going another good draft is needed.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 22, 2023 22:41:25 GMT -5
Can we get him? Listen to the whole response. He should come over to the dark side
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 22, 2023 22:43:59 GMT -5
I’ll take action right now that it ain’t those two teams. What are you offering? 1) Half used can of Lysol patchouli scented 2) Joe Namath's (somewhat) used Rams Jersey.... 3) A very used 1975 AMC pacer lime green (at least thats what I think the color is) Guaranteed to start within 45 minutes 4) John Mara's unauthorized biography with preliminary title: "An Owners Life - my struggle to get the fans to love me" There is a few more but I don't want to get too crazy I'm in! I'll put $50 American dollars against that.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 22, 2023 22:45:50 GMT -5
Can we get him? Listen to the whole response. He should come over to the dark side I wish. Rivera is punching the clock. And every time he does it goes.......ka-ching!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 7:50:45 GMT -5
Can we get him? Listen to the whole response. He should come over to the dark side I would love to acquire any of their front 4. After signing Duron Payne to an extension I don't see them trading him away but Montez Sweat, Jonathan Allen and Chase Young are all for sale if this season doesn't go the way they plan. Chase Young may be had at a discount too....
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 23, 2023 8:32:57 GMT -5
He should come over to the dark side I would love to acquire any of their front 4. After signing Duron Payne to an extension I don't see them trading him away but Montez Sweat, Jonathan Allen and Chase Young are all for sale if this season doesn't go the way they plan. Chase Young may be had at a discount too.... Don't know if they would do a deal with a interdivisional rival but in freeagency maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 8:36:06 GMT -5
I would love to acquire any of their front 4. After signing Duron Payne to an extension I don't see them trading him away but Montez Sweat, Jonathan Allen and Chase Young are all for sale if this season doesn't go the way they plan. Chase Young may be had at a discount too.... Don't know if they would do a deal with a interdivisional rival but in freeagency maybe. If the Commanders continue losing it's possible new ownership fires Rivera & staff mid season. No better time to take advantage of a new owner.
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Post by jb456 on Oct 23, 2023 8:36:25 GMT -5
The Danny fanboys should all go into hiding. For the record, Tyrod is not the answer and he's not even a good QB. He's a borderline starter to a good backup. However he has shown us DJ is a fraud. Danny crimes has stolen enough money and should retire. DJ could have been better if he was given a chance. The guy is shell shocked and it's time to move on. This is a serious thing, look into his eyes and he actually looks scared out there. DJ has been David Carred. Looking ahead, it would be better that the Giants loose every game 0 to 3, defense improves and draft a top QB. DJ can backup in 2024 and cur loose in 2025.
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Post by jb456 on Oct 23, 2023 8:38:43 GMT -5
Can we get him? Listen to the whole response. I like people like Allen, they tell it like it is. He doesn't tip toe around things.
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