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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 31, 2024 10:32:47 GMT -5
I have only heard of him interviewing with Jacksonville maybe he has a shot in Dallas if Quinn moves on but this situation with him and Daboll seems to have damaged both men.they handled it well inside the building.
But the childish back and forth starting with leaking info mid year and on seems to have screwed both guys up.
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Post by cdngfan on Jan 31, 2024 10:43:56 GMT -5
It’s sorta like a game of Jenga right now.
That Seattle HC job may shift the market completely.
It will also let us know what the real fallout is from the Dabs/Wink hissy fit.
If Quinn gets the gig does Wink go to Dallas, and does Kafka start looking for a new OC gig.
One or both could happen.
But it’s still telling for me that Wink doesn’t have a gig. I don’t think we have a DC because we’re competing for a guy who has multiple suitors. I think Joe laid it out that we’ll know this week which signals either his confidence in finishing a deal or his determination to not be someone’s consolidation prize.
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Post by mendy on Jan 31, 2024 10:56:41 GMT -5
I have only heard of him interviewing with Jacksonville maybe he has a shot in Dallas if Quinn moves on but this situation with him and Daboll seems to have damaged both men.they handled it well inside the building. But the childish back and forth starting with leaking info mid year and on seems to have screwed both guys up. Frankly I have seen any proof (IMO)of it damaging Daboll while Wink and his assistants still don't have jobs. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 31, 2024 11:42:44 GMT -5
I have only heard of him interviewing with Jacksonville maybe he has a shot in Dallas if Quinn moves on but this situation with him and Daboll seems to have damaged both men.they handled it well inside the building. But the childish back and forth starting with leaking info mid year and on seems to have screwed both guys up. What back and forth?
Eagles were reportedly interested, that's not happening and they never interviewed him. Guess there wasn't that much interest. Seems when you piss off two head coaches and burn enough bridges while having a 27th ranked defense teams are a little leery of hiring you.
We won't know the impact on Daboll, but certainly doesn't seem to be much.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 31, 2024 11:51:00 GMT -5
I have only heard of him interviewing with Jacksonville maybe he has a shot in Dallas if Quinn moves on but this situation with him and Daboll seems to have damaged both men.they handled it well inside the building. But the childish back and forth starting with leaking info mid year and on seems to have screwed both guys up. What back and forth?
Eagles were reportedly interested, that's not happening and they never interviewed him. Guess there wasn't that much interest. Seems when you piss off two head coaches and burn enough bridges while having a 27th ranked defense teams are a little leery of hiring you.
We won't know the impact on Daboll, but certainly doesn't seem to be much.
I think Daboll gave as good as he took after the fact the morning of the presser he was sure to state how Wink always referred to the Giants as a destination and such, sure he turned the screws in this little war they had going on. I don't think he was the cause of it his coaching style is his way, I have worked construction my whole life and seen guys have to take shit some times and things get nasty, man up and do what the boss wants and do a better job. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 31, 2024 11:54:28 GMT -5
It’s sorta like a game of Jenga right now. That Seattle HC job may shift the market completely. It will also let us know what the real fallout is from the Dabs/Wink hissy fit. If Quinn gets the gig does Wink go to Dallas, and does Kafka start looking for a new OC gig. One or both could happen. But it’s still telling for me that Wink doesn’t have a gig. I don’t think we have a DC because we’re competing for a guy who has multiple suitors. I think Joe laid it out that we’ll know this week which signals either his confidence in finishing a deal or his determination to not be someone’s consolidation prize. I saw an interview with Kafka on Giants huddle he seems like he is preparing to be here if he doesn't get the Seattle gig, talking about having our GM there where he is coaching an allstar games and excited to get back. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 31, 2024 12:27:08 GMT -5
That’s what happens when you get your doors blown off from the hinges.. Our offense got top billing of this shit show.. As the defense got casted out.. We gave up so many yards that offenses started getting frequent flyer miles. Pathetic seasons come with a hefty price.. and he’s paying for it with blood.
No team wants to be saddled with a coach who beats to his own drum. Unless you have head in front of your job title.. you ain’t shit. He also did himself no favors trying to punk his old team and putting them on blast with a twelve gauge shotgun to the face. This is a fraternity.. where friends are your lifeline. Burn them, and you’ll find yourself working a lemonade stand.
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Post by Modog on Jan 31, 2024 12:40:26 GMT -5
I was worried he would end up on Eagles staff. So much for that. He will get a DC job somewhere, but it looks like he's not as sought after as we thought
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Post by landetamustache on Jan 31, 2024 17:47:18 GMT -5
They started 2-8. Finished 4-3. That’s not a team That quit on their coach. Screw that flat brimmed hat wearing defensive coordinator
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Post by inconvenientruth on Jan 31, 2024 17:57:01 GMT -5
I have only heard of him interviewing with Jacksonville maybe he has a shot in Dallas if Quinn moves on but this situation with him and Daboll seems to have damaged both men.they handled it well inside the building. But the childish back and forth starting with leaking info mid year and on seems to have screwed both guys up. Oh definitely. Which big name candidate is interviewing for the Giants DC? We will also shortly be hiring a OC. This offseasons just begun for Daboll, so far, I'm not exactly impressed with the names presented Wink is no longer relevant for us Giants fans. He can still retired for all I care. But he was a damn good DC. Let's see who Daboll can find that will for sure be better |
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 31, 2024 18:13:12 GMT -5
They started 2-8. Finished 4-3. That’s not a team That quit on their coach. Screw that flat brimmed hat wearing defensive coordinator And other than the Saints game they were fighting tooth and nail until the final gun and could have easily been 6-1 to finish. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 31, 2024 20:18:39 GMT -5
I think Daboll gave as good as he took after the fact the morning of the presser he was sure to state how Wink always referred to the Giants as a destination and such, sure he turned the screws in this little war they had going on. I don't think he was the cause of it his coaching style is his way, I have worked construction my whole life and seen guys have to take shit some times and things get nasty, man up and do what the boss wants and do a better job. I have no idea what you're talking about but there certainly was not a public back and forth from what I can tell. Seems every bit of info leaking to the press is crapping on Daboll as if Wink was a perfect little angel. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 31, 2024 20:39:34 GMT -5
I think Daboll gave as good as he took after the fact the morning of the presser he was sure to state how Wink always referred to the Giants as a destination and such, sure he turned the screws in this little war they had going on. I don't think he was the cause of it his coaching style is his way, I have worked construction my whole life and seen guys have to take shit some times and things get nasty, man up and do what the boss wants and do a better job. I have no idea what you're talking about but there certainly was not a public back and forth from what I can tell. Seems every bit of info leaking to the press is crapping on Daboll as if Wink was a perfect little angel. I agree 100% and it is still going actually more aimed at the franchise, I'm not sure but I do think Daboll more than likely shot back in private but maybe not. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 31, 2024 20:44:39 GMT -5
I have only heard of him interviewing with Jacksonville maybe he has a shot in Dallas if Quinn moves on but this situation with him and Daboll seems to have damaged both men.they handled it well inside the building. But the childish back and forth starting with leaking info mid year and on seems to have screwed both guys up. Oh definitely. Which big name candidate is interviewing for the Giants DC? We will also shortly be hiring a OC. This offseasons just begun for Daboll, so far, I'm not exactly impressed with the names presented Wink is no longer relevant for us Giants fans. He can still retired for all I care. But he was a damn good DC. Let's see who Daboll can find that will for sure be better Million dollar question we will see |
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Post by sickntired on Jan 31, 2024 20:49:53 GMT -5
Could care less about Wink or his defense. Every week I would see them make a play here and there but got torched for huge yardage on multiple plays and it became predictable when it was going to happen. **** him. I want to start seeing three and outs. You need that to win games. He couldn’t get it done.
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Post by IrishMike on Jan 31, 2024 21:08:50 GMT -5
I have no idea what you're talking about but there certainly was not a public back and forth from what I can tell. Seems every bit of info leaking to the press is crapping on Daboll as if Wink was a perfect little angel. I agree 100% and it is still going actually more aimed at the franchise, I'm not sure but I do think Daboll more than likely shot back in private but maybe not. Yeah his fiery little bald head doesn't seem like the type to get screamed at and just sit there. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 31, 2024 21:15:18 GMT -5
I agree 100% and it is still going actually more aimed at the franchise, I'm not sure but I do think Daboll more than likely shot back in private but maybe not. Yeah his fiery little bald head doesn't seem like the type to get screamed at and just sit there. LOL I don't think so I think he is as serious as a heart attack his dream job is on the line. From hiring Kafka's interviews seem he is set to stay for this year anyway so there is one guy thats not afraid and plans to improve this offense. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 31, 2024 21:17:06 GMT -5
Could care less about Wink or his defense. Every week I would see them make a play here and there but got torched for huge yardage on multiple plays and it became predictable when it was going to happen. **** him. I want to start seeing three and outs. You need that to win games. He couldn’t get it done. Been a while some forget what that was like when the Giants were a tough outfit that beat QBs down and made teams work for 1st downs . |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 31, 2024 21:20:46 GMT -5
They started 2-8. Finished 4-3. That’s not a team That quit on their coach. Screw that flat brimmed hat wearing defensive coordinator And other than the Saints game they were fighting tooth and nail until the final gun and could have easily been 6-1 to finish. The most important people the players seem to like Daboll it's his coaches I guess he needs to lighten up on to me thats Kind of P#$%y Have seen guys in my line of work get tore apart and they don't make millions lol. |
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Post by sickntired on Jan 31, 2024 21:27:05 GMT -5
Could care less about Wink or his defense. Every week I would see them make a play here and there but got torched for huge yardage on multiple plays and it became predictable when it was going to happen. **** him. I want to start seeing three and outs. You need that to win games. He couldn’t get it done. Been a while some forget what that was like when the Giants were a tough outfit that beat QBs down and made teams work for 1st downs . 3 and outs damn it! Multiple times a game! That’s what I want. I don’t care if you have to get penalized to scare the shit out of somebody. One or two bangs on that QB will rattle his nuts. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 31, 2024 21:34:22 GMT -5
Been a while some forget what that was like when the Giants were a tough outfit that beat QBs down and made teams work for 1st downs . 3 and outs damn it! Multiple times a game! That’s what I want. I don’t care if you have to get penalized to scare the shit out of somebody. One or two bangs on that QB will rattle his nuts. They need a little more edge help and to get that attitude they pay for every yard they gain |
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Post by sickntired on Jan 31, 2024 23:22:41 GMT -5
3 and outs damn it! Multiple times a game! That’s what I want. I don’t care if you have to get penalized to scare the shit out of somebody. One or two bangs on that QB will rattle his nuts. They need a little more edge help and to get that attitude they pay for every yard they gain Thibs isn’t cutting it for me. A lot of guys here may like him. Guess what….not me. |
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Post by jaymas on Feb 1, 2024 0:15:58 GMT -5
I have only heard of him interviewing with Jacksonville maybe he has a shot in Dallas if Quinn moves on but this situation with him and Daboll seems to have damaged both men.they handled it well inside the building. But the childish back and forth starting with leaking info mid year and on seems to have screwed both guys up. Oh definitely. Which big name candidate is interviewing for the Giants DC? We will also shortly be hiring a OC. This offseasons just begun for Daboll, so far, I'm not exactly impressed with the names presented Wink is no longer relevant for us Giants fans. He can still retired for all I care. But he was a damn good DC. Let's see who Daboll can find that will for sure be better His last three seasons as a defensive coordinator, he has had the 25th ranked defense or worse. He has now left two teams after apparently feuding with the head coach and has not been hired even though there are openings. As much as I appreciated turnover-fest for 7 weeks, paired with improved play, and the fact his 3rd down defense was always solid, he couldn't even replicate his good Baltimore run defenses here even though we have the best nose in the league paired with Leonard Williams throughout most of his tenure. Add to that sloppy tackling for much of his two seasons. We gotta get this guy off a pedestal. No idea if the next guy will be better, but I don't think acting like we lost Dick LaBeau makes a lot of sense either. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Feb 1, 2024 8:15:43 GMT -5
I have only heard of him interviewing with Jacksonville maybe he has a shot in Dallas if Quinn moves on but this situation with him and Daboll seems to have damaged both men.they handled it well inside the building. But the childish back and forth starting with leaking info mid year and on seems to have screwed both guys up. Frankly I have seen any proof (IMO)of it damaging Daboll while Wink and his assistants still don't have jobs. Since you don’t find the information that was leaked damaging, how would you describe it? |
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Post by mendy on Feb 1, 2024 8:38:51 GMT -5
Frankly I have seen any proof (IMO)of it damaging Daboll while Wink and his assistants still don't have jobs. Since you don’t find the information that was leaked damaging, how would you describe it? Annoying . Had it not happen in Baltimore all so then it might have been(damaging) but now it's just annoying. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Feb 1, 2024 9:17:31 GMT -5
Since you don’t find the information that was leaked damaging, how would you describe it? Annoying . Had it not happen in Baltimore all so then it might have been(damaging) but now it's just annoying. It sounds as if you're describing your personal feelings and not the feelings of Brian Daboll and the front office.
Being overly emotional during the game is not exactly what I'd want from my HC.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 1, 2024 9:36:09 GMT -5
They need a little more edge help and to get that attitude they pay for every yard they gain Thibs isn’t cutting it for me. A lot of guys here may like him. Guess what….not me. I wanna see how does after last year now the book is out on him think the Giants need to draft edge the way Accorsi did you never have too many. |
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Post by jaymas on Feb 1, 2024 9:38:07 GMT -5
Since you don’t find the information that was leaked damaging, how would you describe it? Annoying . Had it not happen in Baltimore all so then it might have been(damaging) but now it's just annoying. To be fair, it seems like it was definitely happening in Baltimore to a degree, but for sure looks worse here. There was no public blowup with Baltimore. Just a fair amount of reports (with validity) that some of these things, thematically speaking, were also happening there. But Harbaugh is one of the best coaches in the NFL and Daboll clearly has some work to do, so that's not surprising. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Feb 1, 2024 10:45:14 GMT -5
Annoying . Had it not happen in Baltimore all so then it might have been(damaging) but now it's just annoying. It sounds as if you're describing your personal feelings and not the feelings of Brian Daboll and the front office.
Being overly emotional during the game is not exactly what I'd want from my HC.
I thought Daboll did a prettey good job containing his outburst in the latter part of the season, we'll see pretty quickly this year if it was truly the case or just circumstances... |
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Post by Roosevelt on Feb 1, 2024 11:29:29 GMT -5
It sounds as if you're describing your personal feelings and not the feelings of Brian Daboll and the front office. Being overly emotional during the game is not exactly what I'd want from my HC.
I thought Daboll did a prettey good job containing his outburst in the latter part of the season, we'll see pretty quickly this year if it was truly the case or just circumstances... Sometimes I've suspected he's more focused on his feelings then the football game. |
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