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Post by knixknation on Feb 3, 2024 14:06:12 GMT -5
Don’t know if anyone is watching. Not great with names, so bear with me.
TCU RB Bailey: Really stands out. Runs hard and fast. Nice hands too.
Tenn QB Milton: Cannon of an arm. Not good with touch passes. Not making great decisions.
Gamecocks QB Rattler threw a long TD.
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Post by knixknation on Feb 3, 2024 14:55:27 GMT -5
Miss State LB Nathaniel Watson is blowing people up. Wish I could find the video where he laid out an OL 80lbs heavier. Seems to show up on every tackle.
UNC WR Walker: great size and crazy fast. Not a great route runner and not the best hands.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 3, 2024 15:06:06 GMT -5
Don’t know if anyone is watching. Not great with names, so bear with me. TCU RB Bailey: Really stands out. Runs hard and fast. Nice hands too. Tenn QB Milton: Cannon of an arm. Not good with touch passes. Not making great decisions. Gamecocks QB Rattler threw a long TD. Will add as I watch more. So far Penix has not played yet Rattler was best QB with Nix right behind him. If I were the Giants if they can't get one of the big 3 by trade or if one falls to them, I would grab one of the top tackles and the next pick I would draft the highest rated CB and my other second rounder I would grab a WR next Guard. would wait till later draft either Rattler or Milton and develop who ever we get give them a year even 2 sitting and learning. We have so many holes taking a chance on one of these guys you can miss out on some really nice talent this draft is Deep at CB and WR we need both and we need OL.
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Post by knixknation on Feb 3, 2024 15:11:16 GMT -5
Don’t know if anyone is watching. Not great with names, so bear with me. TCU RB Bailey: Really stands out. Runs hard and fast. Nice hands too. Tenn QB Milton: Cannon of an arm. Not good with touch passes. Not making great decisions. Gamecocks QB Rattler threw a long TD. Will add as I watch more. So far Penix has not played yet Rattler was best QB with Nix right behind him. If I were the Giants if they can't get one of the big 3 by trade or if one falls to them, I would grab one of the top tackles and the next pick I would draft the highest rated CB and my other second rounder I would grab a WR next Guard. would wait till later draft either Rattler or Milton and develop who ever we get give them a year even 2 sitting and learning. We have so many holes taking a chance on one of these guys you can miss out on some really nice talent this draft is Deep at CB and WR we need both and we need OL. Penix not dressed. On the sideline cheerleading.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 3, 2024 15:21:09 GMT -5
So far Penix has not played yet Rattler was best QB with Nix right behind him. If I were the Giants if they can't get one of the big 3 by trade or if one falls to them, I would grab one of the top tackles and the next pick I would draft the highest rated CB and my other second rounder I would grab a WR next Guard. would wait till later draft either Rattler or Milton and develop who ever we get give them a year even 2 sitting and learning. We have so many holes taking a chance on one of these guys you can miss out on some really nice talent this draft is Deep at CB and WR we need both and we need OL. Penix not dressed. On the sideline cheerleading. Pretty disappointed wanted to see him, all these QBs had a rocky week down there thats why I am on the wait till later and develop a traits guy. This draft is strong in matching our positions of need WR / CB / OL
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Post by Aris on Feb 4, 2024 5:02:19 GMT -5
Penix not dressed. On the sideline cheerleading. Pretty disappointed wanted to see him, all these QBs had a rocky week down there thats why I am on the wait till later and develop a traits guy. This draft is strong in matching our positions of need WR / CB / OLI've went over tape of the OL, and we might have 11- 13 top 50 offensive linemen, and 8 tackles. That's insane. With a draft as deep as the OL there is no need to spend 2nd contract free agent money on one. This area needs to be addressed first, and then we can worry about long routes runners, in an also very deep class. Weak defensive side on a whole, especially front 7. Secondary has decent talent. What free agents we have out there as edge? Oh my my... JOSH ALLEN, DANIELLE HUNTER, BRYCE HUFF and BRIAN BURNS?
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Post by Modog on Feb 4, 2024 5:58:47 GMT -5
Senior bowl is a joke.. best players come out as juniors.. id rather watch the junior bowl if it existed.
Can you name me a senior bowl MVP QB who amounted to anything in the NFL? Justin Herbert is an outlier, he could have been drafted first overall had he come out his junior year, but he decided to stay at Oregon one more year just to play with his brother.
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Post by Aris on Feb 4, 2024 6:16:40 GMT -5
Senior Bowl participants that had okay careers. 75 for the 75th I see a few hall of famers ...19 this year....of the 56 total throughout In each of the past three years, the Reese’s Senior Bowl has had 100 or more players drafted and over 40 percent of the entire draft class, which are both record-setting figures for any all-star game.QUARTERBACK Dan Marino Pittsburgh ‘83 Dolphins Brett Favre Southern Miss ‘91 Packers, Jets, Vikings RUNNING BACK LaDainian Tomlinson TCU ‘01 Chargers, Jets Thurman Thomas Oklahoma State ‘88 Bills Curtis Martin Pittsburgh ‘95 Patriots, Jets Shaun Alexander Alabama ‘00 Seahawks, Commanders FULLBACK Kyle Juszczyk Harvard ‘13 49ers TIGHT END Jimmy Graham Miami ‘10 Saints, Seahawks, Packers, Bears WIDE RECEIVER Terrell Owens UT-Chattanooga ‘96 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys, Bills, Bengals, Seahawks Reggie Wayne Miami ‘01 Colts Torry Holt North Carolina State ‘99 Rams, Jaguars, Patriots Hines Ward Georgia ‘98 Steelers TACKLE Joe Staley Central Michigan ‘07 49ers Terron Armstead Arkansas Pine-Bluff ‘13 Saints, Dolphins Lane Johnson Oklahoma ‘13 Eagles GUARD Larry Allen Sonoma State ‘94 Cowboys, 49ers Steve Hutchinson Michigan ‘01 Seahawks, Vikings, Titans Zack Martin Notre Dame ‘14 Cowboys CENTER Dermontti Dawson Kentucky ‘88 Steelers Kevin Mawae LSU ‘94 Seahawks, Jets, Titans DEFENSIVE TACKLE Aaron Donald Pittsburgh ‘14 Rams Bryant Young Notre Dame ‘94 49ers Geno Atkins Georgia ‘10 Bengals DEFENSIVE END DeMarcus Ware Troy ‘05 Cowboys, Broncos Michael Strahan Texas Southern ‘93 Giants Jason Taylor Akron ‘07 Dolphins, Commanders, Jets OUTSIDE LINEBACKER Von Miller Texas A&M ‘11 Broncos, Rams, Bills Cornelius Bennett Alabama ‘87 Colts, Bills, Falcons INSIDE LINEBACKER Derrick Brooks Florida State ‘95 Buccaneers Brian Urlacher New Mexico ‘00 Bears Patrick Willis Ole Miss ‘07 49ers Bobby Wagner Utah State ‘12 Seahawks, Rams SAFETY Brian Dawkins Clemson ‘96 Eagles, Broncos Bob Sanders Iowa ‘04 Colts, Chargers LeRoy Butler Florida State ‘90 Packers CORNERBACK Richard Sherman Stanford ‘11 Seahawks, 49ers, Buccaneers Patrick Surtain, Sr. Southern Miss ‘98 Dolphins, Chiefs Aeneas Williams Southern ‘91 Cardinals, Rams KICKER Phil Dawson Texas ‘98 Raiders, Patriots, Browns, 49ers, Cardinals PUNTER Pat McAfee West Virginia ‘09 Colts RETURN SPECIALIST Darren Sproles Kansas State ‘05 Chargers, Saints, Eagles
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 10:40:34 GMT -5
Pretty disappointed wanted to see him, all these QBs had a rocky week down there thats why I am on the wait till later and develop a traits guy. This draft is strong in matching our positions of need WR / CB / OLI've went over tape of the OL, and we might have 11- 13 top 50 offensive linemen, and 8 tackles. That's insane. With a draft as deep as the OL there is no need to spend 2nd contract free agent money on one. This area needs to be addressed first, and then we can worry about long routes runners, in an also very deep class. Weak defensive side on a whole, especially front 7. Secondary has decent talent. What free agents we have out there as edge? Oh my my... JOSH ALLEN, DANIELLE HUNTER, BRYCE HUFF and BRIAN BURNS? You have a much better grasp on it than I do really do appreciate it tho from what I'm getting digging around OL / WR and CB are pretty deep especially OL and WR. Thye can make some $$$$$ in this draft get a lot of talent on rookie deals .
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 10:45:04 GMT -5
Senior bowl is a joke.. best players come out as juniors.. id rather watch the junior bowl if it existed. Can you name me a senior bowl MVP QB who amounted to anything in the NFL? Justin Herbert is an outlier, he could have been drafted first overall had he come out his junior year, but he decided to stay at Oregon one more year just to play with his brother. Juniors have been added to the roster starting this year a lot of kids went back because of the Money now thye can earn from what I have read this is like a 5 round draft 6th and 7th rounder will be guys that are usually UDFAs. Thats why the Senior bowl mistaking juniors.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 10:53:00 GMT -5
Senior Bowl participants that had okay careers. 75 for the 75th I see a few hall of famers ...19 this year....of the 56 total throughout In each of the past three years, the Reese’s Senior Bowl has had 100 or more players drafted and over 40 percent of the entire draft class, which are both record-setting figures for any all-star game.QUARTERBACK Dan Marino Pittsburgh ‘83 Dolphins Brett Favre Southern Miss ‘91 Packers, Jets, Vikings RUNNING BACK LaDainian Tomlinson TCU ‘01 Chargers, Jets Thurman Thomas Oklahoma State ‘88 Bills Curtis Martin Pittsburgh ‘95 Patriots, Jets Shaun Alexander Alabama ‘00 Seahawks, Commanders FULLBACK Kyle Juszczyk Harvard ‘13 49ers TIGHT END Jimmy Graham Miami ‘10 Saints, Seahawks, Packers, Bears WIDE RECEIVER Terrell Owens UT-Chattanooga ‘96 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys, Bills, Bengals, Seahawks Reggie Wayne Miami ‘01 Colts Torry Holt North Carolina State ‘99 Rams, Jaguars, Patriots Hines Ward Georgia ‘98 Steelers TACKLE Joe Staley Central Michigan ‘07 49ers Terron Armstead Arkansas Pine-Bluff ‘13 Saints, Dolphins Lane Johnson Oklahoma ‘13 Eagles GUARD Larry Allen Sonoma State ‘94 Cowboys, 49ers Steve Hutchinson Michigan ‘01 Seahawks, Vikings, Titans Zack Martin Notre Dame ‘14 Cowboys CENTER Dermontti Dawson Kentucky ‘88 Steelers Kevin Mawae LSU ‘94 Seahawks, Jets, Titans DEFENSIVE TACKLE Aaron Donald Pittsburgh ‘14 Rams Bryant Young Notre Dame ‘94 49ers Geno Atkins Georgia ‘10 Bengals DEFENSIVE END DeMarcus Ware Troy ‘05 Cowboys, Broncos Michael Strahan Texas Southern ‘93 Giants Jason Taylor Akron ‘07 Dolphins, Commanders, Jets OUTSIDE LINEBACKER Von Miller Texas A&M ‘11 Broncos, Rams, Bills Cornelius Bennett Alabama ‘87 Colts, Bills, Falcons INSIDE LINEBACKER Derrick Brooks Florida State ‘95 Buccaneers Brian Urlacher New Mexico ‘00 Bears Patrick Willis Ole Miss ‘07 49ers Bobby Wagner Utah State ‘12 Seahawks, Rams SAFETY Brian Dawkins Clemson ‘96 Eagles, Broncos Bob Sanders Iowa ‘04 Colts, Chargers LeRoy Butler Florida State ‘90 Packers CORNERBACK Richard Sherman Stanford ‘11 Seahawks, 49ers, Buccaneers Patrick Surtain, Sr. Southern Miss ‘98 Dolphins, Chiefs Aeneas Williams Southern ‘91 Cardinals, Rams KICKER Phil Dawson Texas ‘98 Raiders, Patriots, Browns, 49ers, Cardinals PUNTER Pat McAfee West Virginia ‘09 Colts RETURN SPECIALIST Darren Sproles Kansas State ‘05 Chargers, Saints, Eagles Thought this year they accepted Juniors because so many kids were going back for year 6 because of the NIL money and coved eligibility. Some crazy stuff Naggy was saying the draft is actually gonna be short on true draftable guys he was saying teams might be trying to trade their 6th and 7th round picks for future capital. If this is true Giants with any trade downs need to keep it in the top 5 rounds.
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Post by fifthavephil on Feb 4, 2024 11:13:41 GMT -5
The Giants have drafted Davis Webb, Luefafela and Daniel Jones all Senior Bowl MVP. So, will the Giants draft Spencer Rattler this year ?
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Post by Aris on Feb 4, 2024 11:15:31 GMT -5
Senior Bowl participants that had okay careers. 75 for the 75th I see a few hall of famers ...19 this year....of the 56 total throughout In each of the past three years, the Reese’s Senior Bowl has had 100 or more players drafted and over 40 percent of the entire draft class, which are both record-setting figures for any all-star game.QUARTERBACK Dan Marino Pittsburgh ‘83 Dolphins Brett Favre Southern Miss ‘91 Packers, Jets, Vikings RUNNING BACK LaDainian Tomlinson TCU ‘01 Chargers, Jets Thurman Thomas Oklahoma State ‘88 Bills Curtis Martin Pittsburgh ‘95 Patriots, Jets Shaun Alexander Alabama ‘00 Seahawks, Commanders FULLBACK Kyle Juszczyk Harvard ‘13 49ers TIGHT END Jimmy Graham Miami ‘10 Saints, Seahawks, Packers, Bears WIDE RECEIVER Terrell Owens UT-Chattanooga ‘96 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys, Bills, Bengals, Seahawks Reggie Wayne Miami ‘01 Colts Torry Holt North Carolina State ‘99 Rams, Jaguars, Patriots Hines Ward Georgia ‘98 Steelers TACKLE Joe Staley Central Michigan ‘07 49ers Terron Armstead Arkansas Pine-Bluff ‘13 Saints, Dolphins Lane Johnson Oklahoma ‘13 Eagles GUARD Larry Allen Sonoma State ‘94 Cowboys, 49ers Steve Hutchinson Michigan ‘01 Seahawks, Vikings, Titans Zack Martin Notre Dame ‘14 Cowboys CENTER Dermontti Dawson Kentucky ‘88 Steelers Kevin Mawae LSU ‘94 Seahawks, Jets, Titans DEFENSIVE TACKLE Aaron Donald Pittsburgh ‘14 Rams Bryant Young Notre Dame ‘94 49ers Geno Atkins Georgia ‘10 Bengals DEFENSIVE END DeMarcus Ware Troy ‘05 Cowboys, Broncos Michael Strahan Texas Southern ‘93 Giants Jason Taylor Akron ‘07 Dolphins, Commanders, Jets OUTSIDE LINEBACKER Von Miller Texas A&M ‘11 Broncos, Rams, Bills Cornelius Bennett Alabama ‘87 Colts, Bills, Falcons INSIDE LINEBACKER Derrick Brooks Florida State ‘95 Buccaneers Brian Urlacher New Mexico ‘00 Bears Patrick Willis Ole Miss ‘07 49ers Bobby Wagner Utah State ‘12 Seahawks, Rams SAFETY Brian Dawkins Clemson ‘96 Eagles, Broncos Bob Sanders Iowa ‘04 Colts, Chargers LeRoy Butler Florida State ‘90 Packers CORNERBACK Richard Sherman Stanford ‘11 Seahawks, 49ers, Buccaneers Patrick Surtain, Sr. Southern Miss ‘98 Dolphins, Chiefs Aeneas Williams Southern ‘91 Cardinals, Rams KICKER Phil Dawson Texas ‘98 Raiders, Patriots, Browns, 49ers, Cardinals PUNTER Pat McAfee West Virginia ‘09 Colts RETURN SPECIALIST Darren Sproles Kansas State ‘05 Chargers, Saints, Eagles Thought this year they accepted Juniors because so many kids were going back for year 6 because of the NIL money and coved eligibility. Some crazy stuff Naggy was saying the draft is actually gonna be short on true draftable guys he was saying teams might be trying to trade their 6th and 7th round picks for future capital. If this is true Giants with any trade downs need to keep it in the top 5 rounds. Yeah I posted that in a earlier post That was supposed to be a reply that the senior bowl and their drills is a joke post ...guess I sent it on an Island.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 11:19:29 GMT -5
Pretty disappointed wanted to see him, all these QBs had a rocky week down there thats why I am on the wait till later and develop a traits guy. This draft is strong in matching our positions of need WR / CB / OLI've went over tape of the OL, and we might have 11- 13 top 50 offensive linemen, and 8 tackles. That's insane. With a draft as deep as the OL there is no need to spend 2nd contract free agent money on one. This area needs to be addressed first, and then we can worry about long routes runners, in an also very deep class. Weak defensive side on a whole, especially front 7. Secondary has decent talent. What free agents we have out there as edge? Oh my my... JOSH ALLEN, DANIELLE HUNTER, BRYCE HUFF and BRIAN BURNS? LOL hey what did you think of the UConn kid Christian Haines telling the LSU DT something about if this is too tough for you maybe go to church after he ripped Haines helmet off out of frustration. That was an excellent 1 on 1 the 1 before it he body slammed his match up there are some nasty OLs in this class for sure that just caught my eye lol.
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Post by Aris on Feb 4, 2024 11:20:01 GMT -5
The Giants have drafted Davis Webb, Luefafela and Daniel Jones all Senior Bowl MVP. So, will the Giants draft Spencer Rattler this year ? If a QB is gonna be an early 1st round, they usually declare after their junior season and not risk injury or a bad senior year in college. Of those horrible picks lol.....only Daniel Jones chosen at pick 6 and thought of as franchise.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 11:23:37 GMT -5
The Giants have drafted Davis Webb, Luefafela and Daniel Jones all Senior Bowl MVP. So, will the Giants draft Spencer Rattler this year ? If so in teh 4th round hopefully I end of think he has a chance if he is coachable has the tools. If they have a chance they need to get up and get one of the top 3 if they can't then they should load the roster and try again next year. Might not see another OL class like this for a while or WR and also CB thye can improve this roster big time through the draft this year 3 premium position groups are pretty stacked up.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 11:24:55 GMT -5
The Giants have drafted Davis Webb, Luefafela and Daniel Jones all Senior Bowl MVP. So, will the Giants draft Spencer Rattler this year ? If a QB is gonna be an early 1st round, they usually declare after their junior season and not risk injury or a bad senior year in college. Of those horrible picks lol.....only Daniel Jones chosen at pick 6 and thought of as franchise. They need one bad but they can't force it.
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Post by Aris on Feb 4, 2024 11:35:00 GMT -5
I've went over tape of the OL, and we might have 11- 13 top 50 offensive linemen, and 8 tackles. That's insane. With a draft as deep as the OL there is no need to spend 2nd contract free agent money on one. This area needs to be addressed first, and then we can worry about long routes runners, in an also very deep class. Weak defensive side on a whole, especially front 7. Secondary has decent talent. What free agents we have out there as edge? Oh my my... JOSH ALLEN, DANIELLE HUNTER, BRYCE HUFF and BRIAN BURNS? LOL hey what did you think of the UConn kid Christian Haines telling the LSU DT something about if this is too tough for you maybe go to church after he ripped Haines helmet off out of frustration. That was an excellent 1 on 1 the 1 before it he body slammed his match up there are some nasty OLs in this class for sure that just caught my eye lol. I thought Haines did well enough the entire process to move into day 2. Nasty offensive linemen give coaches a warm fuzzy feeling. Offensive line is truly talented and deep. Giants need to draft out of the strengths of the class of prospects, which oddly is our needs. OL 2x and WR 1x. CB 1X ...I'm looking for a talented edge in free agency.
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Post by Aris on Feb 4, 2024 11:38:19 GMT -5
The Giants have drafted Davis Webb, Luefafela and Daniel Jones all Senior Bowl MVP. So, will the Giants draft Spencer Rattler this year ? If so in teh 4th round hopefully I end of think he has a chance if he is coachable has the tools. If they have a chance they need to get up and get one of the top 3 if they can't then they should load the roster and try again next year. Might not see another OL class like this for a while or WR and also CB thye can improve this roster big time through the draft this year 3 premium position groups are pretty stacked up. Best I can remember....gotta draft 2 of our first 3 picks on tackles that can play guard or guards that can play tackle. Such talent .... we can't get these picks wrong.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 11:46:43 GMT -5
If so in teh 4th round hopefully I end of think he has a chance if he is coachable has the tools. If they have a chance they need to get up and get one of the top 3 if they can't then they should load the roster and try again next year. Might not see another OL class like this for a while or WR and also CB thye can improve this roster big time through the draft this year 3 premium position groups are pretty stacked up. Best I can remember....gotta draft 2 of our first 3 picks on tackles that can play guard or guards that can play tackle. Such talent .... we can't get these picks wrong. this draft can really alter the direction they go good if they hit bad if they miss they need to be thorough and leave no stone unturned when digging in on these kids.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 11:50:12 GMT -5
LOL hey what did you think of the UConn kid Christian Haines telling the LSU DT something about if this is too tough for you maybe go to church after he ripped Haines helmet off out of frustration. That was an excellent 1 on 1 the 1 before it he body slammed his match up there are some nasty OLs in this class for sure that just caught my eye lol. I thought Haines did well enough the entire process to move into day 2. Nasty offensive linemen give coaches a warm fuzzy feeling. Offensive line is truly talented and deep. Giants need to draft out of the strengths of the class of prospects, which oddly is our needs. OL 2x and WR 1x. CB 1X ...I'm looking for a talented edge in free agency. I think price range wise Hough or Hunter because his age and connection to Andre Peterson would work
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Post by Aris on Feb 4, 2024 12:07:31 GMT -5
I thought Haines did well enough the entire process to move into day 2. Nasty offensive linemen give coaches a warm fuzzy feeling. Offensive line is truly talented and deep. Giants need to draft out of the strengths of the class of prospects, which oddly is our needs. OL 2x and WR 1x. CB 1X ...I'm looking for a talented edge in free agency. I think price range wise Hough or Hunter because his age and connection to Andre Peterson would work Yeah, and Josh Allen will at least tagged in Jacksonville....you don't let 17.5 sacks and a pro bowl just leave
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Post by Aris on Feb 4, 2024 12:09:40 GMT -5
If a QB is gonna be an early 1st round, they usually declare after their junior season and not risk injury or a bad senior year in college. Of those horrible picks lol.....only Daniel Jones chosen at pick 6 and thought of as franchise. They need one bad but they can't force it. haha,,,read somewhere Harbaugh said JJ will be the 1st QB taken. Not sure about that, but no chance in hell he makes it out of the first round
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 12:23:27 GMT -5
They need one bad but they can't force it. haha,,,read somewhere Harbaugh said JJ will be the 1st QB taken. Not sure about that, but no chance in hell he makes it out of the first round He seems like a mid to late round kid being an X QB as his coach JJ seems to have a lot more developing to do. Not sure with the Giants roster needing as much as it needs and after the top 3 I don't think this is a strong QB class at all. Who knows maybe they draft him or someone like him with an eye towards developing him not what I would do in the first RD this year with all the talent stacked nicely aligned with our needs bucket. You do a lot of scouting I don't see a huge difference if you wait till rounds 3 or 4 for Rattler or maybe even 5 concerning Joe Milton how much better is JJ or Penix or Nix for that matter, they will all need developing. Just my observation from looking it some stuff and seeing each play I can handle being wrong just not sure if I am tho.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 12:25:36 GMT -5
I think price range wise Hough or Hunter because his age and connection to Andre Peterson would work Yeah, and Josh Allen will at least tagged in Jacksonville....you don't let 17.5 sacks and a pro bowl just leave Oh absolutely thats why I didn't mention him if he hits the market someone will pay up big time
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Post by Aris on Feb 4, 2024 13:01:28 GMT -5
haha,,,read somewhere Harbaugh said JJ will be the 1st QB taken. Not sure about that, but no chance in hell he makes it out of the first round He seems like a mid to late round kid being an X QB as his coach JJ seems to have a lot more developing to do. Not sure with the Giants roster needing as much as it needs and after the top 3 I don't think this is a strong QB class at all. Who knows maybe they draft him or someone like him with an eye towards developing him not what I would do in the first RD this year with all the talent stacked nicely aligned with our needs bucket. You do a lot of scouting I don't see a huge difference if you wait till rounds 3 or 4 for Rattler or maybe even 5 concerning Joe Milton how much better is JJ or Penix or Nix for that matter, they will all need developing. Just my observation from looking it some stuff and seeing each play I can handle being wrong just not sure if I am tho.This is a tough board to be wrong on I'm biased against Nix because he kept Ty Thompson QB with rocket arm on the Duck bench, and we played him when he was a Junior in high school and just marveled at his 5 star arm. Been doing high school coach assistant for a while on and off....and it's not something you see or play against very often, if ever. Pro style drop back QB and throws lasers. Our own players were so down at half..."did you see that throw?...you cover him then" But in reality, Nix improved quite a bit, but I'm not wasting a 2 day pick unless I am 100% sure the QB will be more then a senior bowl MVP. IMHO, some say JJ did not help himself championship game day, but I seen some lasers while he was off platform and running...right on target. He also rarely makes dumb plays, something Nix was known for in Auburn. DJ compared him to Alex Smith. I can live with Alex Smith on my ream...JJ is only 20. We can grab a receiver, 2 plug and play guys for OL...some good tackles on defense...maybe like Ranger13 suggests..change the front 7. I do know on thing...if the Giants sign average OL free agent talent and overpay in free agency with this deep of a OL class, we've lost our way.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 4, 2024 19:19:53 GMT -5
He seems like a mid to late round kid being an X QB as his coach JJ seems to have a lot more developing to do. Not sure with the Giants roster needing as much as it needs and after the top 3 I don't think this is a strong QB class at all. Who knows maybe they draft him or someone like him with an eye towards developing him not what I would do in the first RD this year with all the talent stacked nicely aligned with our needs bucket. You do a lot of scouting I don't see a huge difference if you wait till rounds 3 or 4 for Rattler or maybe even 5 concerning Joe Milton how much better is JJ or Penix or Nix for that matter, they will all need developing. Just my observation from looking it some stuff and seeing each play I can handle being wrong just not sure if I am tho.This is a tough board to be wrong on I'm biased against Nix because he kept Ty Thompson QB with rocket arm on the Duck bench, and we played him when he was a Junior in high school and just marveled at his 5 star arm. Been doing high school coach assistant for a while on and off....and it's not something you see or play against very often, if ever. Pro style drop back QB and throws lasers. Our own players were so down at half..."did you see that throw?...you cover him then" But in reality, Nix improved quite a bit, but I'm not wasting a 2 day pick unless I am 100% sure the QB will be more then a senior bowl MVP. IMHO, some say JJ did not help himself championship game day, but I seen some lasers while he was off platform and running...right on target. He also rarely makes dumb plays, something Nix was known for in Auburn. DJ compared him to Alex Smith. I can live with Alex Smith on my ream...JJ is only 20. We can grab a receiver, 2 plug and play guys for OL...some good tackles on defense...maybe like Ranger13 suggests..change the front 7. I do know on thing...if the Giants sign average OL free agent talent and overpay in free agency with this deep of a OL class, we've lost our way. I agree thanks for the opinion I actually know the feeling Back in the day Steve Young played football for a few years in Greenwich CT I played in Norwalk a neighboring town when we played them they were always good but when he moved there it became a different level of good, on the field it was more like awe struck than anything never seen a talent like that on a high school field in our league. Later on many years later John Sullivan played at Greenwhich the Notredame center and Minnesota Vikings long time center watched him play high school new from the first day he was gonna be special started for ND from the Jump and had a long stellar career with the Vikings. Out there you see some pretty good high school talent quite a bit, pretty cool you get to coach and help these kids learn. Maybe JJ can be what we need i went back and forth and kind of got off of him but he is young and seems like he has some of Jones good qualities as far as work ethic smarts and toughness hopefully he has some of the those unteachable things thats DJ doesn't have
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Post by Nite on Feb 4, 2024 23:03:03 GMT -5
The Giants have drafted Davis Webb, Luefafela and Daniel Jones all Senior Bowl MVP. So, will the Giants draft Spencer Rattler this year ? Jisms don't give them any ideas...
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Post by imgrate on Feb 5, 2024 9:10:20 GMT -5
Pretty disappointed wanted to see him, all these QBs had a rocky week down there thats why I am on the wait till later and develop a traits guy. This draft is strong in matching our positions of need WR / CB / OLI've went over tape of the OL, and we might have 11- 13 top 50 offensive linemen, and 8 tackles. That's insane. With a draft as deep as the OL there is no need to spend 2nd contract free agent money on one. This area needs to be addressed first, and then we can worry about long routes runners, in an also very deep class. Weak defensive side on a whole, especially front 7. Secondary has decent talent. What free agents we have out there as edge? Oh my my... JOSH ALLEN, DANIELLE HUNTER, BRYCE HUFF and BRIAN BURNS? Yea Daniel Jeremiah has 11 OL in his top 50… 7 in his top 18. The 7 in the top 18 he has listed as all OTs, though many are RTs in his mind. I dont like the idea of paying an edge in FA, since they’re sooo expensive. I wanted Burns the year he came out, went a pick before us, I think.. wanted Josh Allen, too. Out of that list, I havent watched huff much at all. Allen worries me because he wasnt anything great until his contract year. Hunter is about to be on wrong side of 30… Burns, it is
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Post by knixknation on Feb 5, 2024 12:27:04 GMT -5
Senior bowl is a joke.. best players come out as juniors.. id rather watch the junior bowl if it existed. Can you name me a senior bowl MVP QB who amounted to anything in the NFL? Justin Herbert is an outlier, he could have been drafted first overall had he come out his junior year, but he decided to stay at Oregon one more year just to play with his brother. Puka Nacua last year.
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