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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 2, 2024 13:07:52 GMT -5
Think Rich just said JJ are in at around 220. If I heard that right that will lift him into the top 10 possibly.
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Post by piddy283 on Mar 2, 2024 13:55:58 GMT -5
Good news, if true. At his age and with his frame he should be able to bulk up a decent bit.
Daniels has me a bit worried. I've seen him listed at 215lbs on some sites, but he barely looks 200lbs soaking wet. At his age, I don't know how much bulking up he can do.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 2, 2024 14:01:11 GMT -5
Good news, if true. At his age and with his frame he should be able to bulk up a decent bit. Daniels has me a bit worried. I've seen him listed at 215lbs on some sites, but he barely looks 200lbs soaking wet. At his age, I don't know how much bulking up he can do. They said he looked rail thin when he came in.
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Post by piddy283 on Mar 2, 2024 14:41:32 GMT -5
Good news, if true. At his age and with his frame he should be able to bulk up a decent bit. Daniels has me a bit worried. I've seen him listed at 215lbs on some sites, but he barely looks 200lbs soaking wet. At his age, I don't know how much bulking up he can do. They said he looked rail thin when he came in. Yea, that scares me. He takes a lot of hits. When it comes down to it I I have a hard time believing he's going to last.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 2, 2024 14:50:34 GMT -5
Giants hanging out with JJ (on combine TV)
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 2, 2024 14:50:54 GMT -5
They said he looked rail thin when he came in. Yea, that scares me. He takes a lot of hits. When it comes down to it I I have a hard time believing he's going to last. This is gonna be interesting to say the least I want aQB but I do not want to reach. This is such a good draft class at the top, they can't afford to reach and lose out on this type of talent schoen and company need to be on their game they can help this team in a big way if they can change the Giants slump when it comes to impact type player to me that is All Pro's
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 2, 2024 14:52:12 GMT -5
Giants hanging out with JJ (on combine TV) They better watch out some one will Jump them lol if he is bigger he will rise fast from mid first to top 10
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 2, 2024 15:09:00 GMT -5
JJ came in at 219lbs Also measured taller than expected Not running or doing jumps because of tight hammyās
Talk is some reps already see him in as the 3rd best QB
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 2, 2024 15:09:55 GMT -5
Giants hanging out with JJ (on combine TV) Saw that - they were having a good chat.
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 2, 2024 15:12:42 GMT -5
Good news, if true. At his age and with his frame he should be able to bulk up a decent bit. Daniels has me a bit worried. I've seen him listed at 215lbs on some sites, but he barely looks 200lbs soaking wet. At his age, I don't know how much bulking up he can do. They said he looked rail thin when he came in. JJ has never been rail thin. That was Tom Brady. Heās rail thin compared to Joe Milton but JJ beat out Milton at Michigan so no biggie.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 2, 2024 15:21:20 GMT -5
Giants hanging out with JJ (on combine TV) They better watch out some one will Jump them lol if he is bigger he will rise fast from mid first to top 10 I think he is going top 10. Hoping Atlanta gets Fields from Chicago so we have less to worry about.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 2, 2024 15:26:35 GMT -5
They better watch out some one will Jump them lol if he is bigger he will rise fast from mid first to top 10 I think he is going top 10. Hoping Atlanta gets Fields from Chicago so we have less to worry about. Yea no doubt now he came in at 219 now it is what they see on tape and what he ddi on the board last his arm if he throws it 65 or 70 yards in the air thats plenty.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 2, 2024 15:31:18 GMT -5
They said he looked rail thin when he came in. JJ has never been rail thin. That was Tom Brady. Heās rail thin compared to Joe Milton but JJ beat out Milton at Michigan so no biggie. Talking about Daniels no JJ. JJ came in at 219 he will be a top 10 pick if the Giants like him they better watch out picks 4 and 5 will be for sale at the right price Atlanta will be lurking.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 2, 2024 15:39:11 GMT -5
I think he is going top 10. Hoping Atlanta gets Fields from Chicago so we have less to worry about. Yea no doubt now he came in at 219 now it is what they see on tape and what he ddi on the board last his arm if he throws it 65 or 70 yards in the air thats plenty. itās a supply/demand thing too imo. 17 Games!! so nobody is safe. With 2025 not looking too hot for QBs there is limited supply. If Atlanta is out of the way I cannot see Harbaugh making a trade with either division rivals (Vegas or Denver) so they can land a QB. Itās Chargers vs Chiefs until either of those teams get a QB. Dropping back to Minny or the Saints is a long way. Meanwhile, I see the Cards going Harrison. Otherwise, they drop a bit beyond the top receivers.
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 2, 2024 17:22:56 GMT -5
Analysts described McCarthyās day at the combine as outstanding.
Was also viewed as the most pro ready QB at the combine. Apparently Harbaugh was not exaggerating.
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Post by bluebuddha on Mar 2, 2024 17:25:23 GMT -5
Analysts described McCarthyās day at the combine as outstanding. Was also viewed as the most pro ready QB at the combine. Apparently Harbaugh was not exaggerating. Any links I can read?
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Post by fifthavephil on Mar 2, 2024 17:29:33 GMT -5
Do not be surprised if the New England Patriots take McCarthy. Former Michigan and Irish decent, he fits Boston and Kraft former QB ( TB )
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 2, 2024 17:43:15 GMT -5
Do not be surprised if the New England Patriots take McCarthy. Former Michigan and Irish decent, he fits Boston and Kraft former QB ( TB ) he met with 11 teams.
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Post by Aris on Mar 13, 2024 21:40:06 GMT -5
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 14, 2024 7:31:21 GMT -5
That was a pretty good overview but some obvious close minded kinks. The criticism about the Bowling Green game. Second game of the year and he was definitely a bit off. He threw 4 interceptions all year 3 vs Bowling Green but only 1 the next 13 games. The complaint about missing open WRās. Michiganās WRās were underwhelming. JJ had one good target Roman Wilson. Wilson was a 4* recruit. The remainder of the WR cast was nothing to write home about. On a decent percentage of those misses the WR made the wrong decision on how the play was supposed to be executed. JJ throws the ball before the receiver makes the break so a lot of that has to do with cohesiveness between the quarterback and wide receiver. As I said Michiganās wide receivers were very middle of the road. He had great tight ends though and I donāt recall him blatantly missing one of those throws?. JJ does miss throws though but who doesnāt. Lastly the sucks at long throws comment. Michigan did not ask JJ to throw the ball down field very much and when he did he was at times off target. With more reps with top end wide receivers I donāt see it being a problem at all. Iām a fan of JJ McCarthy but wonāt have my heart broken if we donāt select him. The main reason I stick up for him is because of all the boneheaded comments about him when the draft and quarterbacks started being discussed. Heās a great kid - great competitor - class guy would be a perfect face of the franchise. I do however understand the skeptical part for those that are unfamiliar with him compared to me. I still believe when all is said and done he will be the best quarterback coming out of this draft. If you disagree with me thatās fine I get that too. Thanks for postingš
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 14, 2024 7:38:03 GMT -5
Former Michigan and Irish decent, he fits Boston Sounds like he would fit NY, OR Chicago as well
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Post by ratbastich on Mar 14, 2024 7:38:12 GMT -5
JJ has never been rail thin. That was Tom Brady. Heās rail thin compared to Joe Milton but JJ beat out Milton at Michigan so no biggie. Talking about Daniels no JJ. JJ came in at 219 he will be a top 10 pick if the Giants like him they better watch out picks 4 and 5 will be for sale at the right price Atlanta will be lurking. Daniels came in at 6'4" and 210. Heavier than expected as many of the talking heads suspected him to be more around the 190 range. At 210 he still has a thin build but I would not be averse to him of course.
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Post by Aris on Mar 14, 2024 7:40:59 GMT -5
That was a pretty good overview but some obvious close minded kinks. The criticism about the Bowling Green game. Second game of the year and he was definitely a bit off. He threw 4 interceptions all year 3 vs Bowling Green but only 1 the next 13 games. The complaint about missing open WRās. Michiganās WRās were underwhelming. JJ had one good target Roman Wilson. Wilson was a 4* recruit. The remainder of the WR cast was nothing to write home about. On a decent percentage of those misses the WR made the wrong decision on how the play was supposed to be executed. JJ throws the ball before the receiver makes the break so a lot of that has to do with cohesiveness between the quarterback and wide receiver. As I said Michiganās wide receivers were very middle of the road. He had great tight ends though and I donāt recall him blatantly missing one of those throws? JJ throws the ball before the receiver makes the break so a lot of that has to do with cohesiveness between the quarterback and wide receiver. As I said Michiganās wide receivers were very middle of the road. JJ does miss throws though but who doesnāt. Lastly the sucks at long throws comment. Michigan did not ask JJ to throw the ball down field very much and when he did he was at times off target. With more reps with top end wide receivers I donāt see it being a problem at all. Iām a fan of JJ McCarthy but wonāt have my heart broken if we donāt select him. The main reason I stick up for him is because of all the boneheaded comments about him when the draft and quarterbacks started being discussed. Heās a great kid - great competitor - class guy would be a perfect face of the franchise. I do however understand the skeptical part for those that are unfamiliar with him compared to me. I still believe when all is said and done he will be the best quarterback coming out of this draft. If you disagree with me thatās fine I get that too. Thanks for postingš I like JJ and would not freak out if we took him at 6...at all. His pocket presence, the awareness....looking off safeties and linebackers and throwing on the run with his eyes always downfield you can't coach. The long throws and the accuracy yeah, some crazy off stuff....it's why we have the handsome bald level headed guy that makes QB's like Maye and Daniels great. He's very young, likable and most important ...coachable. The issues he has are correctible, and if corrected, we have a top notch franchise QB.
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Post by fifthavephil on Mar 14, 2024 7:44:08 GMT -5
Former Michigan and Irish decent, he fits Boston Sounds like he would fit NY, OR Chicago as well Yes; but New England has the third pick in the draft.
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 14, 2024 7:46:19 GMT -5
Sounds like he would fit NY, OR Chicago as well Yes;Ā but New England has theĀ thirdĀ pick in the draft.Ā OK? Chicago has the 1st, and we have the 6th...
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 14, 2024 8:09:08 GMT -5
That was a pretty good overview but some obvious close minded kinks. The criticism about the Bowling Green game. Second game of the year and he was definitely a bit off. He threw 4 interceptions all year 3 vs Bowling Green but only 1 the next 13 games. The complaint about missing open WRās. Michiganās WRās were underwhelming. JJ had one good target Roman Wilson. Wilson was a 4* recruit. The remainder of the WR cast was nothing to write home about. On a decent percentage of those misses the WR made the wrong decision on how the play was supposed to be executed. JJ throws the ball before the receiver makes the break so a lot of that has to do with cohesiveness between the quarterback and wide receiver. As I said Michiganās wide receivers were very middle of the road. He had great tight ends though and I donāt recall him blatantly missing one of those throws? JJ throws the ball before the receiver makes the break so a lot of that has to do with cohesiveness between the quarterback and wide receiver. As I said Michiganās wide receivers were very middle of the road. JJ does miss throws though but who doesnāt. Lastly the sucks at long throws comment. Michigan did not ask JJ to throw the ball down field very much and when he did he was at times off target. With more reps with top end wide receivers I donāt see it being a problem at all. Iām a fan of JJ McCarthy but wonāt have my heart broken if we donāt select him. The main reason I stick up for him is because of all the boneheaded comments about him when the draft and quarterbacks started being discussed. Heās a great kid - great competitor - class guy would be a perfect face of the franchise. I do however understand the skeptical part for those that are unfamiliar with him compared to me. I still believe when all is said and done he will be the best quarterback coming out of this draft. If you disagree with me thatās fine I get that too. Thanks for postingš I like JJ and would not freak out if we took him at 6...at all. His pocket presence, the awareness....looking off safeties and linebackers and throwing on the run with his eyes always downfield you can't coach. The long throws and the accuracy yeah, some crazy off stuff....it's why we have the handsome bald level headed guy that makes QB's like Maye and Daniels great. He's very young, likable and most important ...coachable. The issues he has are correctible, and if corrected, we have a top notch franchise QB. Thanks for the response. I used a poor choice of words when I said if āyouā disagree. I should of said if a āfanā disagrees. It didnāt enter my mind you posted it to show the negatives about JJ - which there are few. You have been pretty open minded about the kid while others have just wanted to slice him down for ā only handing the ball off ā. Those are the out of touch who think they know a prospect but when they open their mouth it becomes apparent they donāt. āš»
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Post by fifthavephil on Mar 14, 2024 8:24:11 GMT -5
Yes; but New England has the third pick in the draft. OK? Chicago has the 1st, and we have the 6th... Chicago, needs an immediate impact at QB . Chicago will take one of the other three QB's.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 14, 2024 8:37:42 GMT -5
Talking about Daniels no JJ. JJ came in at 219 he will be a top 10 pick if the Giants like him they better watch out picks 4 and 5 will be for sale at the right price Atlanta will be lurking. Daniels came in at 6'4" and 210. Heavier than expected as many of the talking heads suspected him to be more around the 190 range. At 210 he still has a thin build but I would not be averse to him of course. That is a good thing for him I read up on him a little more he has more development to do wondering if the NFL people feel the same some feel he runs to run not to create.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 14, 2024 8:58:15 GMT -5
That was a pretty good overview but some obvious close minded kinks. The criticism about the Bowling Green game. Second game of the year and he was definitely a bit off. He threw 4 interceptions all year 3 vs Bowling Green but only 1 the next 13 games. The complaint about missing open WRās. Michiganās WRās were underwhelming. JJ had one good target Roman Wilson. Wilson was a 4* recruit. The remainder of the WR cast was nothing to write home about. On a decent percentage of those misses the WR made the wrong decision on how the play was supposed to be executed. JJ throws the ball before the receiver makes the break so a lot of that has to do with cohesiveness between the quarterback and wide receiver. As I said Michiganās wide receivers were very middle of the road. He had great tight ends though and I donāt recall him blatantly missing one of those throws? JJ throws the ball before the receiver makes the break so a lot of that has to do with cohesiveness between the quarterback and wide receiver. As I said Michiganās wide receivers were very middle of the road. JJ does miss throws though but who doesnāt. Lastly the sucks at long throws comment. Michigan did not ask JJ to throw the ball down field very much and when he did he was at times off target. With more reps with top end wide receivers I donāt see it being a problem at all. Iām a fan of JJ McCarthy but wonāt have my heart broken if we donāt select him. The main reason I stick up for him is because of all the boneheaded comments about him when the draft and quarterbacks started being discussed. Heās a great kid - great competitor - class guy would be a perfect face of the franchise. I do however understand the skeptical part for those that are unfamiliar with him compared to me. I still believe when all is said and done he will be the best quarterback coming out of this draft. If you disagree with me thatās fine I get that too. Thanks for postingš I like JJ and would not freak out if we took him at 6...at all. His pocket presence, the awareness....looking off safeties and linebackers and throwing on the run with his eyes always downfield you can't coach. The long throws and the accuracy yeah, some crazy off stuff....it's why we have the handsome bald level headed guy that makes QB's like Maye and Daniels great. He's very young, likable and most important ...coachable. The issues he has are correctible, and if corrected, we have a top notch franchise QB. The question is do they pull the trigger at 6 knowing they can have a full year or how ever long within the year to teach and grow him. As I have looked at this big picture with JJ, think from his film has some things that Jones still doesn't have, he has a good head on his shoulders and is a real hard worker we need a QB and WR 1 to go with him and help him. Whats coming first I don't know. Is JJ as far as value talent wise go as high on their board as Odunze Nabers Alt or Harrison if he falls to 6 it will be interesting to see how this goes I think JJ is a good prospect JJ probably graded lower than those guys but does positional value trump the talent value I think yes thats why X and SQB they let them walk because of positional value.
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Post by Nite on Mar 14, 2024 9:10:28 GMT -5
I get a similar reaction..
But in a different forum
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