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Post by McCherry on Mar 18, 2024 12:29:26 GMT -5
I would rather take shots at McCarthy, Nix and Penix over Fields. We also can't rule out a move-up to the top 3. I've seen Fields, he's not impressive. I think the draft compensation the Bears received reflects that. If Fields was in some offensive no man’s land, I’d wonder more. But that o line of his was decent and he had some weapons. Having to make another call based on a 6 month try out (before you have to commit big or walk), no thanks. I’m with you. If we’re going to take the risk, the risk of the unknown is better in this situation. And I think about what Packers players said last year. "If we keep Fields in the pocket, we're winning the game".
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Post by jaymas on Mar 18, 2024 12:29:29 GMT -5
Justin Fields is worse than Daniel Jones at seeing the field. You know this how? I've seen plenty of video from Dan Orlovsky that says differently. This also isn't about Fields over Jones it's all about Fields over Lock. Just one example. But there are countless ones
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Post by Nick6475 on Mar 18, 2024 12:58:16 GMT -5
They both average 1 passing TD per game, Fields has never been over 200 passing yds/game in his three years, he is a slightly better runner. They both rely on their legs too much (which we know is not sustainable) and have struggled to maintain a consistent passing game. Still not the same player and using stats for discussion of football players should be outlawed! Fields will throw down field with anticipation and we've never seen Jones do that so there is one important difference. Yeah, stats are for losers, especially if they don't support your argument.
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Post by inthezone on Mar 18, 2024 14:12:57 GMT -5
You know this how? I've seen plenty of video from Dan Orlovsky that says differently. This also isn't about Fields over Jones it's all about Fields over Lock. Just one example. But there are countless ones Just like there are some now that show his improvement in this area especially at the end of his 3rd season. Jones has had 5 seasons and actually looked worse his 5th year. We will eventually find out if Fields ends up better than Jones since I think it's premature to say Fields hasn't improved from his 1st couple of years. BTW.. there aren't a lot of these extremely negative videos put out there for Jones? Could it be impossible to know who sees the field the worse?
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Post by inthezone on Mar 18, 2024 14:15:34 GMT -5
Still not the same player and using stats for discussion of football players should be outlawed! Fields will throw down field with anticipation and we've never seen Jones do that so there is one important difference. Yeah, stats are for losers, especially if they don't support your argument. Perfect. I didn't think you understood all the variables with this game and now you've confirmed it. Thanks for the response and please continue to think you understand the game because of the numbers!
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Post by jaymas on Mar 18, 2024 16:02:05 GMT -5
Just one example. But there are countless ones Just like there are some now that show his improvement in this area especially at the end of his 3rd season. Jones has had 5 seasons and actually looked worse his 5th year. We will eventually find out if Fields ends up better than Jones since I think it's premature to say Fields hasn't improved from his 1st couple of years. BTW.. there aren't a lot of these extremely negative videos put out there for Jones? Could it be impossible to know who sees the field the worse? You're barking up the wrong tree, I'm no Jones supporter. We need to move on. My point is, that nothing about Justin Fields is an upgrade, and going into his 4th year, it's probably not going to get better outside of fleeting moments (just like DJ). Whatever chance either of them had to develop the necessary processing speed and recognition + throwing with anticipation is probably gone (if they ever could develop it, to begin with). I prefer Drew Lock over Fields as a backup.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 18, 2024 16:03:37 GMT -5
These are the things that annoy me unless they asked Fields as the Giants asked Williams where he wanted to go why aren't they in on stuff like this. Giants have a really good chance of being the odd man out with the QB situation that has 4 solid 1st rounders and had 2 pretty good options in the secondary market in Wilson and Fields. I like the trade for Burns but he like Thibs is not strong against the run and a QB should have been a top priority the last couple days the Viking and Steelers made sure they were gonna have the best options possible for their franchises to fill the most important position on the field and in sports. If they come away with Daniel Jones and Drew Lock at the end of this offseason cycle thats a problem especially the way they willing to be aggressive and trade for an edge who is good but not top 5. That is not what I heard about Burns. Heard he is solid against run as well. Not just a pass rusher and he may not quite be top 5 but he is very close. With a better supporting cast I think he surely will be top 5. He's a good pass rusher that sometimes disappears for stretch's this is from a Carolina guy who likes him but as he said he isn't a set the edge type of edge player he will have to win with speed wether rushing the passer or defending the edge. In his words because he isn't a edge setter and has lapses from time to time he will never be a Nick Bosa / Joey Bosa but he will be a good player that will make plays for you. I'm hoping he's wrong and he becomes a top 5 guys with some help Thibs and Dexter.
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Post by inthezone on Mar 18, 2024 16:20:18 GMT -5
Just like there are some now that show his improvement in this area especially at the end of his 3rd season. Jones has had 5 seasons and actually looked worse his 5th year. We will eventually find out if Fields ends up better than Jones since I think it's premature to say Fields hasn't improved from his 1st couple of years. BTW.. there aren't a lot of these extremely negative videos put out there for Jones? Could it be impossible to know who sees the field the worse? You're barking up the wrong tree, I'm no Jones supporter. We need to move on. My point is, that nothing about Justin Fields is an upgrade, and going into his 4th year, it's probably not going to get better outside of fleeting moments (just like DJ). Whatever chance either of them had to develop the necessary processing speed and recognition + throwing with anticipation is probably gone (if they ever could develop it, to begin with). I prefer Drew Lock over Fields as a backup. It seems we agree that they both have been underwhelming. I would like Fields over Lock who's been in the league for 4 years with minimal playing time.
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