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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 17, 2024 0:27:34 GMT -5
Just saw it on Facebook and I think I read a sixth round pick with conditions to be a fourth with playing time LOL
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 17, 2024 0:28:58 GMT -5
Shit we could have done that .. đ±đ±đ±
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Post by SG88 on Mar 17, 2024 0:49:16 GMT -5
Shit we could have done that .. đ±đ±đ± Maybe the GM kept his word that he was going to do right by Fields? IDK man. I just hope that this team is done with 8 and his demoralizing ass a lot sooner than later.
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Post by ratbastich on Mar 17, 2024 6:30:09 GMT -5
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Post by hadenough on Mar 17, 2024 7:52:24 GMT -5
Good for the SteelersâŠthatâs how you do it. Get 2 potential starting QBs for $5mil total and it buys you another couple years to locate a QB.
We are paying $52mil for 2 similar QBs.
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Post by te88 on Mar 17, 2024 8:03:07 GMT -5
Good for the SteelersâŠthatâs how you do it. Get 2 potential starting QBs for $5mil total and it buys you another couple years to locate a QB. We are paying $52mil for 2 similar QBs. Ours are worse. Jones doesnât compare to Wilson. Unique situation with Wilson though.
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Post by cdngfan on Mar 17, 2024 8:10:35 GMT -5
The trouble with Fields this year is the trouble with DJ in 22â.
If he plays well youâre gonna have to pay him. Yeah you can tag him afterwards but that Pitt team has pieces and an amazing coach. So if he plays well in 24â, you tag him in 25â and he plays well again, youâre paying him $60 a year probably (accounting for 2 years of QB inflation).
Maybe by then heâs worth $60. The comp for him is low because youâre renting him for a year.
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Post by te88 on Mar 17, 2024 8:21:44 GMT -5
The trouble with Fields this year is the trouble with DJ in 22â. If he plays well youâre gonna have to pay him. Yeah you can tag him afterwards but that Pitt team has pieces and an amazing coach. So if he plays well in 24â, you tag him in 25â and he plays well again, youâre paying him $60 a year probably (accounting for 2 years of QB inflation). Maybe by then heâs worth $60. The comp for him is low because youâre renting him for a year. Doubt he gets to play unless Wilson is hurt. He is now a backup QB.
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Post by vinnie on Mar 17, 2024 8:22:46 GMT -5
When I saw this I was pretty poâd we didnât do it. Iâd rather give up a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick for a QB that possibly still has a lot of upside rather than pay a known scrub in Lock. Let Fields and Jones duke it out for the starting position or if Fields starts and plays well, keep him in and franchise him next year. It would have taken a lot of pressure off of drafting a QB this year and possibly next year.
Again, not giving up on Schoen yet but this was another huge miss along with Waller and every move heâs made with the O line (so far).
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 17, 2024 8:30:37 GMT -5
When I saw this I was pretty poâd we didnât do it. Iâd rather give up a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick for a QB that possibly still has a lot of upside rather than pay a known scrub in Lock. Let Fields and Jones duke it out for the starting position or if Fields starts and plays well, keep him in and franchise him next year. It would have taken a lot of pressure off of drafting a QB this year and possibly next year. Again, not giving up on Schoen yet but this was another huge miss along with Waller and every move heâs made with the O line (so far). Iâm not sure how good or bad Fields is but what a move a move by Pittsburgh. Nobody saw this coming once Wilson was there. League wide, it was proven you need QB depth b/c 17 games is a long time. And Rooney, he said it best and wants to win. âWe've had enough of this," Rooney said, via Brooke Pryor of ESPN.com. "It's time to get some wins; it's time to take these next steps."
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 17, 2024 9:12:56 GMT -5
These are the things that annoy me unless they asked Fields as the Giants asked Williams where he wanted to go why aren't they in on stuff like this.
Giants have a really good chance of being the odd man out with the QB situation that has 4 solid 1st rounders and had 2 pretty good options in the secondary market in Wilson and Fields.
I like the trade for Burns but he like Thibs is not strong against the run and a QB should have been a top priority the last couple days the Viking and Steelers made sure they were gonna have the best options possible for their franchises to fill the most important position on the field and in sports.
If they come away with Daniel Jones and Drew Lock at the end of this offseason cycle thats a problem especially the way they willing to be aggressive and trade for an edge who is good but not top 5.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 17, 2024 9:18:10 GMT -5
When I saw this I was pretty poâd we didnât do it. Iâd rather give up a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick for a QB that possibly still has a lot of upside rather than pay a known scrub in Lock. Let Fields and Jones duke it out for the starting position or if Fields starts and plays well, keep him in and franchise him next year. It would have taken a lot of pressure off of drafting a QB this year and possibly next year. Again, not giving up on Schoen yet but this was another huge miss along with Waller and every move heâs made with the O line (so far). Iâm not sure how good or bad Fields is but what a move a move by Pittsburgh. Nobody saw this coming once Wilson was there. League wide, it was proven you need QB depth b/c 17 games is a long time. And Rooney, he said it best and wants to win. âWe've had enough of this," Rooney said, via Brooke Pryor of ESPN.com. "It's time to get some wins; it's time to take these next steps." If this were Gettlemen or Reese after Minnesota did there pre draft prep and now the Steelers come in and take the 2 best options in the secondary market in Wilson and Fields giants need some wake up drops our pryor GMs would be on a spit right now being roasted.
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 17, 2024 9:22:42 GMT -5
Low risk.. High reward. The Steelers whose biggest flops are our greatest hits.. Prove yet again why theyâre playing chess with their pieces.. As we are still stuck on go fish with ours. Two players that arenât making jack shit while Denver and Chicago are still licking their wounds. Pittsburgh is holding all the cards while two players battle it out for supremacy.
Wilson who is at the twilight of his career.. is playing on a one year deal looking for that last extension. Fields who has a fifth year option looming over their head, wonât have it picked up with a crane. So another player who will be playing for a new contract. That makes two players who are polar opposites on the field that have the same goals off it. The Steelers are banking on the competition will bring the best out of them.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 17, 2024 10:38:36 GMT -5
The trouble with Fields this year is the trouble with DJ in 22â. If he plays well youâre gonna have to pay him. Yeah you can tag him afterwards but that Pitt team has pieces and an amazing coach. So if he plays well in 24â, you tag him in 25â and he plays well again, youâre paying him $60 a year probably (accounting for 2 years of QB inflation). Maybe by then heâs worth $60. The comp for him is low because youâre renting him for a year. makes sense and especially since the Bears are in position to reset the market. My brother and several cousins and schoolmates are Bears and we've been talking all since mid to late season how crazy they would be to get rid of Fields and especially for Caleb willim if that's who they select, watch how they'll be regretting both Ways him over Fields and him over Jayden Daniels......
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 17, 2024 10:39:47 GMT -5
When I saw this I was pretty poâd we didnât do it. Iâd rather give up a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick for a QB that possibly still has a lot of upside rather than pay a known scrub in Lock. Let Fields and Jones duke it out for the starting position or if Fields starts and plays well, keep him in and franchise him next year. It would have taken a lot of pressure off of drafting a QB this year and possibly next year. Again, not giving up on Schoen yet but this was another huge miss along with Waller and every move heâs made with the O line (so far). 1,000 % agree..........
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 17, 2024 10:41:33 GMT -5
When I saw this I was pretty poâd we didnât do it. Iâd rather give up a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick for a QB that possibly still has a lot of upside rather than pay a known scrub in Lock. Let Fields and Jones duke it out for the starting position or if Fields starts and plays well, keep him in and franchise him next year. It would have taken a lot of pressure off of drafting a QB this year and possibly next year. Again, not giving up on Schoen yet but this was another huge miss along with Waller and every move heâs made with the O line (so far). Iâm not sure how good or bad Fields is but what a move a move by Pittsburgh. Nobody saw this coming once Wilson was there. League wide, it was proven you need QB depth b/c 17 games is a long time. And Rooney, he said it best and wants to win. âWe've had enough of this," Rooney said, via Brooke Pryor of ESPN.com. "It's time to get some wins; it's time to take these next steps." well Mr Rooney you've been winning a lot more than us lol and making the playoffs and always having a winning record during Tomlin's tenure ect ect. I guess he means getting back to getting close to and to SB's.....
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 17, 2024 10:43:46 GMT -5
These are the things that annoy me unless they asked Fields as the Giants asked Williams where he wanted to go why aren't they in on stuff like this. Giants have a really good chance of being the odd man out with the QB situation that has 4 solid 1st rounders and had 2 pretty good options in the secondary market in Wilson and Fields. I like the trade for Burns but he like Thibs is not strong against the run and a QB should have been a top priority the last couple days the Viking and Steelers made sure they were gonna have the best options possible for their franchises to fill the most important position on the field and in sports. If they come away with Daniel Jones and Drew Lock at the end of this offseason cycle thats a problem especially the way they willing to be aggressive and trade for an edge who is good but not top 5. hey the way they were talking about him it sounded like top 5 lol. Unless he is so close to being in the top 5 like swap a few guys or so or flip a coin ish......
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Post by TEM on Mar 17, 2024 10:44:15 GMT -5
The moral to the story
OSU QBs = Mediocre
Troy Smith Art Schlichter Terrelle Pryor Craig Krenzel Cardale Jones Bobby Hoying Dwayne Haskins Kent Graham Joe Germaine Justin Fields John Borton Dave Leggett Tom Tupa
1 Joe Burrow That is 7.7% success rate.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 17, 2024 10:47:03 GMT -5
Low risk.. High reward. The Steelers whose biggest flops are our greatest hits.. Prove yet again why theyâre playing chess with their pieces.. As we are still stuck on go fish with ours. Two players that arenât making jack shit while Denver and Chicago are still licking their wounds. Pittsburgh is holding all the cards while two players battle it out for supremacy. Wilson who is at the twilight of his career.. is playing on a one year deal looking for that last extension. Fields who has a fifth year option looming over their head, wonât have it picked up with a crane. So another player who will be playing for a new contract. That makes two players who are polar opposites on the field that have the same goals off it. The Steelers are banking on the competition will bring the best out of them. and I bet it will. Just look how they looked with bums at qb last year lol and still almost made the playoffs. I'm banking on them to do big big things this year. You talk about the meaning of super motivated and chips on the shoulder...............
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Post by Analyst on Mar 17, 2024 10:47:33 GMT -5
The moral to the story OSU QBs = Mediocre Troy Smith Art Schlichter Terrelle Pryor Craig Krenzel Cardale Jones Bobby Hoying Dwayne Haskins Kent Graham Joe Germaine Justin Fields Joe Burrow John Borton Dave Leggett Tom Tupa Joe Burrow is mediocre? He was LSU though, he didnt do anything at Ohio St. How about CJ Stroud though? Until he came up last year, I would have agreed. Fields isnt that good. He is just an exciting athlete like Kyler Murray and Daniel Jones.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 17, 2024 10:49:09 GMT -5
The moral to the story OSU QBs = Mediocre Troy Smith Art Schlichter Terrelle Pryor Craig Krenzel Cardale Jones Bobby Hoying Dwayne Haskins Kent Graham Joe Germaine Justin Fields John Borton Dave Leggett Tom Tupa 1 Joe Burrow That is 7.7% success rate. and the moral of the Usc story is and from what I've seen from Willams, he isn't that guy and I can't wait for all those who think he is Maholmes esk and will be anyone's savoir to be throwing up lmfao........
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Post by TEM on Mar 17, 2024 10:49:56 GMT -5
The moral to the story OSU QBs = Mediocre Troy Smith Art Schlichter Terrelle Pryor Craig Krenzel Cardale Jones Bobby Hoying Dwayne Haskins Kent Graham Joe Germaine Justin Fields Joe Burrow John Borton Dave Leggett Tom Tupa Joe Burrow is mediocre? He was LSU though, he didnt do anything at Ohio St. How about CJ Stroud though? Until he came up last year, I would have agreed. Fields isnt that good. He is just an exciting athlete like Kyler Murray and Daniel Jones. I hit the send button before I Showed Joe was the only one that played for OSU. 7.7% success. That sucks from a top 10 school.
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Post by McCherry on Mar 17, 2024 10:50:28 GMT -5
The trouble with Fields this year is the trouble with DJ in 22â. If he plays well youâre gonna have to pay him. Yeah you can tag him afterwards but that Pitt team has pieces and an amazing coach. So if he plays well in 24â, you tag him in 25â and he plays well again, youâre paying him $60 a year probably (accounting for 2 years of QB inflation). Maybe by then heâs worth $60. The comp for him is low because youâre renting him for a year. It's high risk, no reward.... Fans here complain about DJ's contract and the injury clause... but they're ok taking on another big contract with Fields, as well as giving up picks instead of just drafting a QB? That's a Gettleman move.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 17, 2024 10:50:36 GMT -5
The moral to the story OSU QBs = Mediocre Troy Smith Art Schlichter Terrelle Pryor Craig Krenzel Cardale Jones Bobby Hoying Dwayne Haskins Kent Graham Joe Germaine Justin Fields Joe Burrow John Borton Dave Leggett Tom Tupa Joe Burrow is mediocre? He was LSU though, he didnt do anything at Ohio St. How about CJ Stroud though? Until he came up last year, I would have agreed. Fields isnt that good. He is just an exciting athlete like Kyler Murray and Daniel Jones. CJ definitely bucked the trend lol...... dude is a Beaaaast..........
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Post by TEM on Mar 17, 2024 10:50:42 GMT -5
The moral to the story OSU QBs = Mediocre Troy Smith Art Schlichter Terrelle Pryor Craig Krenzel Cardale Jones Bobby Hoying Dwayne Haskins Kent Graham Joe Germaine Justin Fields John Borton Dave Leggett Tom Tupa 1 Joe Burrow That is 7.7% success rate. and the moral of the Usc story is and from what I've seen from Willams, he isn't that guy and I can't wait for all those who think he is Maholmes esk and will be anyone's savoir to be throwing up lmfao........ I have my own issues with Williams.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Mar 17, 2024 10:56:05 GMT -5
Pittsburgh is an example of a well run NFL franchise, what the Giants were under Wellington Mara.
Their worst seasons are pretty much better than the Giants best seasons the last 10 years. They seem to never have a bad year, typically don't have top 10 draft picks every year like the Giants, and still win.
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Post by vinnie on Mar 17, 2024 11:05:38 GMT -5
The trouble with Fields this year is the trouble with DJ in 22â. If he plays well youâre gonna have to pay him. Yeah you can tag him afterwards but that Pitt team has pieces and an amazing coach. So if he plays well in 24â, you tag him in 25â and he plays well again, youâre paying him $60 a year probably (accounting for 2 years of QB inflation). Maybe by then heâs worth $60. The comp for him is low because youâre renting him for a year. It's high risk, no reward.... Fans here complain about DJ's contract and the injury clause... but they're ok taking on another big contract with Fields, as well as giving up picks instead of just drafting a QB? That's a Gettleman move. What big contract are they taking on with Fields?
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Post by McCherry on Mar 17, 2024 11:08:45 GMT -5
It's high risk, no reward.... Fans here complain about DJ's contract and the injury clause... but they're ok taking on another big contract with Fields, as well as giving up picks instead of just drafting a QB? That's a Gettleman move. What big contract are they taking on with Fields? As cdngfan said, the one you give him if he plays well for you.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 17, 2024 11:13:18 GMT -5
Pittsburgh is an example of a well run NFL franchise, what the Giants were under Wellington Mara. Their worst seasons are pretty much better than the Giants best seasons the last 10 years. They seem to never have a bad year, typically don't have top 10 draft picks every year like the Giants, and still win. agree and this move for Fields is foresight to the 2025 draft in which their are few, if any, QBs. Pitt now has two QBs to chose from. and Philly, they took Pickett and theyâll see if he further develops. They always seem to have a backup plan. Our pathetic Giants backup plan was a kid who lives at home, calling the Broncos QB coach and getting Pugh off the couch. Ridiculous
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Post by vinnie on Mar 17, 2024 11:23:30 GMT -5
What big contract are they taking on with Fields? As cdngfan said, the one you give him if he plays well for you. In our position, whatâs more risky, taking an unknown QB with the 6th overall pick (or giving up future draft assets to move up) or giving up a 4th or 6th round pick, starting Fields (which he most likely would) and if he plays well keep Jones on the bench which prevents him from getting his injury clause (which I think is ~25 million if he gets hurt) and tag Fields in 2025 which will probably cost ~40 million? Iâll take the chance with Fields, if he doesnât play well this year we lose a 4th round pick at most, if he does, we potentially gain a franchise QB. I also think thereâs a decent probability DJ will get hurt so if Fields did play well and Jones never saw the field, the franchise tag would only âpotentiallyâ be 15 million if you think Jones would rob the Giants one last time which I do. Iâm not saying Fields will be anything more than a backup but I would risk a 4th round pick over paying Lock and if he does do well then we save a 6th overall risk pick (possibly more) on drafting a QB this year or next. I get the whole QB on a rookie contract thing but I also know how many QBâs turn out to be busts. I would take a 4th round pick in Fields for a test drive and draft a WR with the 6th. If he doesnât work out, get your QB next year which we may be doing anyways which would also be dumb at this point IMO since we only have Jones and Lock who we are certain suck and now Jones is a legit injury risk.
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