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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 27, 2024 17:05:35 GMT -5
Won't this kick up tonight after the draft we'll start hearing names signing tonight? Has Josh Hartman or Taulia been drafted if they don't get drafted they could be options at QB who would you guys rather have at QB Devito, Lock, Taulia, or Hartman? Supposing Jones isn't ready for the season or gets hurt or looks really bad. Look how long it took Kyler Murray to come back same injury he was out most of the year.
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Post by bavarobeast on Apr 27, 2024 17:42:38 GMT -5
Devito looks like a QB you sign when there is a player strike. He stinks.
I do think Lock has potential to surprise.
Taulia I know you’ve liked. He’s got talent but doesn’t make the best decisions or throws with pressure on or crunch time. He’s athletic and can make plays and he’s also accurate. I would take Hartman or Taulia as a FA and hope we struck….if not gold silver.DJ is a tarnished Bronze. Hartman looked good playing all ACC teams then competition got harder at Notre Dame where he didn’t shine so bright.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 27, 2024 17:54:24 GMT -5
Devito looks like a QB you sign when there is a player strike. He stinks. I do think Lock has potential to surprise. Taulia I know you’ve liked. He’s got talent but doesn’t make the best decisions or throws with pressure on or crunch time. He’s athletic and can make plays and he’s also accurate. I would take Hartman or Taulia as a FA and hope we struck….if not gold silver.DJ is a tarnished Bronze. Hartman looked good playing all ACC teams then competition got harder at Notre Dame where he didn’t shine so bright. Which QB would you prefer from the same team in the same season? QB A. 6 starts. W/L....1-5. 909 yards. 2 TD's. 6 Int's. QB B. 6 starts. W/L.. 3-3. 1101 yards. 8 TD's. 3 Int's. I kinda like QB B. What about you?
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Post by sickntired on Apr 27, 2024 18:40:37 GMT -5
I ain’t scared…after the shit we put up with all these years? I’ll put DeVito in there. He threw a couple tds.
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Post by Analyst on Apr 27, 2024 18:45:43 GMT -5
Devito looks like a QB you sign when there is a player strike. He stinks. I do think Lock has potential to surprise. Taulia I know you’ve liked. He’s got talent but doesn’t make the best decisions or throws with pressure on or crunch time. He’s athletic and can make plays and he’s also accurate. I would take Hartman or Taulia as a FA and hope we struck….if not gold silver.DJ is a tarnished Bronze. Hartman looked good playing all ACC teams then competition got harder at Notre Dame where he didn’t shine so bright. Which QB would you prefer from the same team in the same season? QB A. 6 starts. W/L....1-5. 909 yards. 2 TD's. 6 Int's. QB B. 6 starts. W/L.. 3-3. 1101 yards. 8 TD's. 3 Int's. I kinda like QB B. What about you? I'm amazed at how much people hate an unfrafted rookie on a shit team that put up those kinda stats. Is he a savior? No. But he was a serviceable backup coming in with zero expectations. And he outperformed our $40m starter. I guess DJ should thank him though as he saved us from drafting Maye.
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Post by inthezone on Apr 27, 2024 18:55:07 GMT -5
Devito looks like a QB you sign when there is a player strike. He stinks. I do think Lock has potential to surprise. Taulia I know you’ve liked. He’s got talent but doesn’t make the best decisions or throws with pressure on or crunch time. He’s athletic and can make plays and he’s also accurate. I would take Hartman or Taulia as a FA and hope we struck….if not gold silver.DJ is a tarnished Bronze. Hartman looked good playing all ACC teams then competition got harder at Notre Dame where he didn’t shine so bright. Which QB would you prefer from the same team in the same season? QB A. 6 starts. W/L....1-5. 909 yards. 2 TD's. 6 Int's. QB B. 6 starts. W/L.. 3-3. 1101 yards. 8 TD's. 3 Int's. I kinda like QB B. What about you? This is great!
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Post by southerner on Apr 27, 2024 18:55:27 GMT -5
Which QB would you prefer from the same team in the same season? QB A. 6 starts. W/L....1-5. 909 yards. 2 TD's. 6 Int's. QB B. 6 starts. W/L.. 3-3. 1101 yards. 8 TD's. 3 Int's. I kinda like QB B. What about you? I'm amazed at how much people hate an unfrafted rookie on a shit team that put up those kinda stats. Is he a savior? No. But he was a serviceable backup coming in with zero expectations. And he outperformed our $40m starter. I guess DJ should thank him though as he saved us from drafting Maye. Yeah, DeVito just might be a great backup QB like Hostetler.
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Post by southerner on Apr 27, 2024 19:07:01 GMT -5
Which QB would you prefer from the same team in the same season? QB A. 6 starts. W/L....1-5. 909 yards. 2 TD's. 6 Int's. QB B. 6 starts. W/L.. 3-3. 1101 yards. 8 TD's. 3 Int's. I kinda like QB B. What about you? This is great! A lot of truth in this, but look at who QB A played against, versus QB B…..look at the offensive line playing when A played versus B……it is no wonder that QB A has a permanent suite in the local hospital.
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Post by Analyst on Apr 27, 2024 19:09:52 GMT -5
This is great! A lot of truth in this, but look at who QB A played against, versus QB B…..look at the offensive line playing when A played versus B……it is no wonder that QB A has a permanent suite in the local hospital. QB B played a hell of a game with a game winning drive through the air vs the GB Packers who had a solid defense and were on fire at the time with the hottest QB in the NFL. QB B also did something QB A hasn't done since 2019 his rookie year, throw 3 TDs in a game and win player of the week. QB B also costs 40x less.
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Post by inthezone on Apr 27, 2024 19:10:20 GMT -5
This is great! A lot of truth in this, but look at who QB A played against, versus QB B…..look at the offensive line playing when A played versus B……it is no wonder that QB A has a permanent suite in the local hospital. I get all that and really hate when stats are used this way due to what you noticed also.
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Post by southerner on Apr 27, 2024 19:10:27 GMT -5
The Giant offensive line gave up 85 sacks last year……..the second highest in post merger history.
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Post by Analyst on Apr 27, 2024 19:11:46 GMT -5
The Giant offensive line gave up 85 sacks last year……..the second highest in post merger history. That why we drafted a couple to help out..... oh.
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 27, 2024 19:12:16 GMT -5
Devito looks like a QB you sign when there is a player strike. He stinks. I do think Lock has potential to surprise. Taulia I know you’ve liked. He’s got talent but doesn’t make the best decisions or throws with pressure on or crunch time. He’s athletic and can make plays and he’s also accurate. I would take Hartman or Taulia as a FA and hope we struck….if not gold silver.DJ is a tarnished Bronze. Hartman looked good playing all ACC teams then competition got harder at Notre Dame where he didn’t shine so bright. Which QB would you prefer from the same team in the same season? QB A. 6 starts. W/L....1-5. 909 yards. 2 TD's. 6 Int's. QB B. 6 starts. W/L.. 3-3. 1101 yards. 8 TD's. 3 Int's. I kinda like QB B. What about you? I assume these are Jones's and Devito's numbers? Devito was a rookie how about how he looked in that string of wins. Care to share Eli's rookie numbers? How did that turn out?
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 27, 2024 19:17:20 GMT -5
I believe the game before Devito's 3 wins he looked promising so all things considered he looked good in 4 games. A better offensive line should help all the QBs
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Post by Nite on Apr 27, 2024 19:18:41 GMT -5
The Giant offensive line gave up 85 sacks last year……..the second highest in post merger history. That why we drafted a couple to help out..... oh. Ugh......sigh
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Post by SG88 on Apr 27, 2024 19:33:26 GMT -5
That why we drafted a couple to help out..... oh. Ugh......sigh The neglect of the oline at this draft was certainly a head scratcher.
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 27, 2024 19:34:08 GMT -5
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Post by robl on Apr 27, 2024 19:36:27 GMT -5
See they got a guard. Everyone happy now?
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 27, 2024 19:40:47 GMT -5
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Post by robl on Apr 27, 2024 19:41:41 GMT -5
They're building the trenches!
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 27, 2024 19:43:56 GMT -5
The neglect of the oline at this draft was certainly a head scratcher. I think it more let's see what the new oline coach can do before we give up on our draft picks. We have invested quite a bit of early draft on the oline group. Either Joe schoen and his scouting department suck at scouting olinemen , which would be a big problem. Or our oline coach is not getting through to the players we are drafting. How we haven't just blindly hit on a olinmen yet these last 5 years is astonishing. Something is fundamentally off. I also think a QB with better pocket presence and QB instincts can help the group. How a QB repeatedly cannot see a free man rushing him 5 years into his pro career after the protections are set and he reads the defense is mind boggling. He got sacked alot at Duke too. I really think JS and Dabs wanted Maye. That presser after the first pick speaks volumes. Compared to yesterday and today.
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 27, 2024 19:47:39 GMT -5
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Post by robl on Apr 27, 2024 19:54:35 GMT -5
Asante is a native of Jersey City.
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Post by Analyst on Apr 27, 2024 19:55:12 GMT -5
The neglect of the oline at this draft was certainly a head scratcher. I think it more let's see what the new oline coach can do before we give up on our draft picks. We have invested quite a bit of early draft on the oline group. Either Joe schoen and his scouting department suck at scouting olinemen , which would be a big problem. Or our oline coach is not getting through to the players we are drafting. How we haven't just blindly hit on a olinmen yet these last 5 years is astonishing. Something is fundamentally off. I also think a QB with better pocket presence and QB instincts can help the group. How a QB repeatedly cannot see a free man rushing him 5 years into his pro career after the protections are set and he reads the defense is mind boggling. He got sacked alot at Duke too. I really think JS and Dabs wanted Maye. That presser after the first pick speaks volumes. Compared to yesterday and today. Why did they draft defense then? Why not let the new defensive coordinator work with the guys we have and see what he can do? Lol
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Post by Analyst on Apr 27, 2024 19:56:19 GMT -5
Any QBs yet?
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 27, 2024 19:57:19 GMT -5
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Post by robl on Apr 27, 2024 20:00:44 GMT -5
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 27, 2024 20:01:03 GMT -5
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Post by DonnieYen on Apr 27, 2024 20:02:03 GMT -5
Casey is a defensive tackle
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Post by bluebuddha on Apr 27, 2024 20:13:36 GMT -5
I think it more let's see what the new oline coach can do before we give up on our draft picks. We have invested quite a bit of early draft on the oline group. Either Joe schoen and his scouting department suck at scouting olinemen , which would be a big problem. Or our oline coach is not getting through to the players we are drafting. How we haven't just blindly hit on a olinmen yet these last 5 years is astonishing. Something is fundamentally off. I also think a QB with better pocket presence and QB instincts can help the group. How a QB repeatedly cannot see a free man rushing him 5 years into his pro career after the protections are set and he reads the defense is mind boggling. He got sacked alot at Duke too. I really think JS and Dabs wanted Maye. That presser after the first pick speaks volumes. Compared to yesterday and today. Why did they draft defense then? Why not let the new defensive coordinator work with the guys we have and see what he can do? Lol He is a coordinator so I am pretty sure his defense is run differently than Winks.Plus we need a safety and a corner. I don't believe we are changing offensive philosophies. We addressed the oline in previous drafts and even got the new coach some guys in free agency. At this point why even draft your oline just buy known commodities if that is you biggest weak link. Just because the FO didn't get the guy your favorite talking g head raved about doesn't mean we missed out on anything. The FOMO on this board makes team building views so myopic and dystopian.
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