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Post by infinite420 on Apr 11, 2020 9:31:44 GMT -5
P4 Andrew Thomas. OT P36 Denzel Mims. WR P99 Matt Hennessy. C P110 Troy Dye. LB P150 Colby Parkinson. TE P183 Calvin Throckmorton. G P218 Jordan Fuller. S P238 Michael Divinty Jr. LB P247 Isaiah Wright. WR P255 Jalen Elliot S Ouch And I mean this in a pleasurable way. This offense is a top 10 offense by the end of 2021 if not a top 7 once they gell.. Adding Wright to arguably one of the 2 best special teams units in the league... If you win 2 out of the 3 phases of the game you win 70% of your games.. People don't sleep on Michael Divinity JR...he was a starter before he basically got wally pipped with a relatively minor injury early in the year by Queen..this guy is going to be a steal You could not ask for a better draft with no trades (and the areas these players were selected look logical) Fuller would compliment what we have at S, was also C at OSU, Jersey kid. Throckmorton can play anywhere, dude has Giants written all over him. Parkinson gives us an ability to make Engram a trade chip in 2020, if there is one. My favorite part of this was we went OT, WR, C in that order. The tackle dropoff after the Fab 4 is huge, were in position to land oor future LT for the next decade, OT all day at 4. The rush on QBs, Ts, CBs, usually pushes elite WR talent to the end of the 1st/Top 2nd, thats where Im pulling the trigger on WR, there will be a bunch of quality there. And there should be 2-3 quality options when we pick at tbe end of the 3rd round for a decent center.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 6:47:54 GMT -5
A blessed Easter to all NY Giant fans...may you people all find happiness and joy in your lives. Remember people, if you draft a running back at 2, the road to happiness shall take at least 5 years, but have faith people, while thunder thighs may drop passes, miss blocking assignments and fail to have vision between the tackles, we shall now give him lanes to burst through. Yes you people that are all alike, we shall "make" a Barkley with this draft. Sure, I might argue any top NFL running back should be able to churn yards behind a solid line and creative play calling, but remember...we are always a jump cut away from a class act touchdown and a new poster bought for the wall. Speaking of people, why are some people...okay certain posters...claiming now, we need more talent on this defense, yet...were so happy to fire Bettcher, as the sole reason the defense was brutal. I suggested, IMHO, with fact...it was indeed not his fault, and this defense was not only lacking talent, it was young...with that all, shot down as blasphemy. Now, certain posters on board with the Bettcher firing, are now suggesting the same lack of talent I and a few others were spouting... as they yearn for a Simmons, and say 30th in defense, 17th in offense and the stat ...such a limited stat of course, but cherry picking stats, and bully clique herding of the nerding seems to be par for course on the Giants board. Let me say it again... We lacked talent last year, defense and OL...and the defense was NOT Bettcher's fault. And when I was watching and mocking Simmons to the Giants before 99% of any poster knew who he even was, I always suggested...a perfect Bettcher type play...Bettcher, ahead of his time at Arizona...using those interchangeable Swiss army knives. NY Giants...a mess with Dave Gettleman. Some UK fun with trades and a weak big board. 12: R1P12 OT TRISTEN WIRFSIOWA Jason Peters or there next great guard...high ceiling, high floor 19: R1P19 OT JEDRICK WILLS JR.ALABAMA Left tackle, right tackle...day 1 starter. Pass blocking master 45: R2P13 S JEREMY CHINNS. ILLINOIS Simmons clone....linebackers can be had all over this draft, as can safeties that can cover and tackle...no need to waste a 4 pick on Simmons as the "Chinn" can do it all as well....sorry Simmons people76: R3P12 WR/RB/QB/ST LYNN BOWDEN JR.KENTUCKY Versatile weapon who can play on offense, as many positions as the "Chinn" can on defense...a Swiss army knife on... offense. 99: R3P35 C NICK HARRISWASHINGTON Zone blocking master...surround him with beef and he will be a starting center day 1 117: R4P11 WR DEVIN DUVERNAYTEXAS Speed demon who never drops a thing...when they say depth in the draft, we are talking Devin in the 4th round. 139: R4P33 CB DARNAY HOLMESUCLA Incredibly talented corner 5 star recruit, with size concerns...perfect slot guy 150: R5P4 EDGE CURTIS WEAVERBOISE ST. This far does for the college production is insane. The guy could literally start on the DL... 183: R6P4 EDGE JASON STROWBRIDGEN. CAROLINA 6th round for the Strow man? Surely you jest. 218: R7P4 OT JACK DRISCOLLAUBURN Another silly spot for Driscoll...some could argue he was a better tackle than the Prince. 238: R7P24 WR KALIJA LIPSCOMBVANDERBILT Come on, now you are just toying with me...who says the UK people don't know football? Well, this big board is giving me proof. 247: R7P33 RB PATRICK TAYLOR JR.MEMPHIS Barkley wants outside, Taylor says downhill. I already know who I want to pick up my 3rd and 2...and it's anybody BUT Barkley 255: R7P41 OT CALVIN THROCKMORTONOREGON Will play guard or center in the NFL...not sure how he does it with the worse combine I ever seen, but the tape says...beats all competition. Could play tackle in a pinch.
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 12, 2020 8:21:29 GMT -5
R1P4 OT JEDRICK WILLS ALABAMA- Most polished OT along with Thomas, day 1 starter, possibly our book end for over a decade
36: R2P4 WR JALEN REAGOR TCU- Odell Beckham on the field, Larry Fitzgerald off of it, LOL. DUDE IS ELECTRIC, every time he touches the ball he is a td threat.
99: R3P35 TE HARRISON BRYANT FAU- IMO the clear cut best TE in the draft, hes like if Evan Engram if Engram didnt have a case of the dropsies
110: R4P4 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN- Low risk, high reward in the 4th. Before the end of 2019 he was going in the 1st round. Worst case scenario he becomes a badass guard
150: R5P4 OT TREY ADAMS WASHINGTON- Like Biadasz, before his injury he was arguably the best at his position... Unfortunately he has a BAD injury history. Low risk HIGH reward
183: R6P4 C JAKE HANSON OREGON- Not a mauler, but more so a cerebral C, like Weston Richburgh
218: R7P4 S JORDAN FULLER OHIO ST.- Could play fs, could help out at slot cb, dude can cover
238: R7P24 EDGE TIPA GALEAI UTAH ST.- RAW untouched talent, give this guy a nfl coaching staff and the sky is the limit, another low risk HIGH reward kind of player
247: R7P33 EDGE KENDALL COLEMAN SYRACUSE- Great football IQ, good grasp of the technical aspects, but doesnt have the athletic talent, more so a a good motor with poor measurements
255: R7P41 CB LUQ BARCOO SAN DIEGO ST.
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 12, 2020 8:50:03 GMT -5
R1P4 OT ANDREW THOMAS GEORGIA 36: R2P4 S GRANT DELPIT LSU 99: R3P35 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN 110: R4P4 RB ZACK MOSS UTAH 150: R5P4 TE CHEYENNE O'GRADY ARKANSAS 183: R6P4 LB CAM BROWN PENN ST. 218: R7P4 WR BINJIMEN VICTOR OHIO ST. 238: R7P24 S SHYHEIM CARTER ALABAMA 247: R7P33 EDGE TIPA GALEAI UTAH ST. 255: R7P41 G JON RUNYAN MICHIGAN
Those are 3 guys somewhat new on my radar who REALLY intrigue me
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 12, 2020 9:39:00 GMT -5
While I DO NOT want Simmons at 4, i figured let me see how it would pan out....
R1P4 LB ISAIAH SIMMONS CLEMSON 36: R2P4 OT LUCAS NIANG TCU 99: R3P35 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN 110: R4P4 WR TYLER JOHNSON MINNESOTA 150: R5P4 OT TREY ADAMS WASHINGTON 183: R6P4 G CALVIN THROCKMORTON OREGON 218: R7P4 TE CHEYENNE O'GRADY ARKANSAS 238: R7P24 S SHYHEIM CARTER ALABAMA 247: R7P33 EDGE TIPA GALEAI UTAH ST. 255: R7P41 WR BINJIMEN VICTOR OHIO ST.
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Post by nygfanstrick on Apr 12, 2020 10:35:34 GMT -5
R1P4 OT ANDREW THOMAS GEORGIA 36: R2P4 S GRANT DELPIT LSU 99: R3P35 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN 110: R4P4 RB ZACK MOSS UTAH 150: R5P4 TE CHEYENNE O'GRADY ARKANSAS183: R6P4 LB CAM BROWN PENN ST.218: R7P4 WR BINJIMEN VICTOR OHIO ST.238: R7P24 S SHYHEIM CARTER ALABAMA 247: R7P33 EDGE TIPA GALEAI UTAH ST. 255: R7P41 G JON RUNYAN MICHIGAN Those are 3 guys somewhat new on my radar who REALLY intrigue me My family lives really close to the U of Arkansas campus and I would watch almost all of their games (my god how they have fallen since I remembered watching them when I was young with D McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis all in one backfield lol). O’Grady is a really solid player. He had some off the field stuff. I can’t remember the specifics, but I think he didn’t get along with the coaching staff at all. He ended up walking away from the program mid season (some say they let it go down on his terms instead of kicking him off the team since he is a hometown kid). That being said as far as his play he is a good one. Not the fastest TE by any stretch of the imagination but has really good hands and is a load to bring down when he catches the ball. Kind of similar to how Gates/Witten played not saying he’ll be anywhere near that caliber of player but he isn’t going to be a guy who wins many foot races. He can still be effective for sure though. Kam Curl S from Arkansas is another under the radar guy I like from their team.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 10:43:35 GMT -5
While I DO NOT want Simmons at 4, i figured let me see how it would pan out.... R1P4 LB ISAIAH SIMMONS CLEMSON 36: R2P4 OT LUCAS NIANG TCU 99: R3P35 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN 110: R4P4 WR TYLER JOHNSON MINNESOTA 150: R5P4 OT TREY ADAMS WASHINGTON 183: R6P4 G CALVIN THROCKMORTON OREGON 218: R7P4 TE CHEYENNE O'GRADYARKANSAS 238: R7P24 S SHYHEIM CARTER ALABAMA 247: R7P33 EDGE TIPA GALEAI UTAH ST. 255: R7P41 WR BINJIMEN VICTOR OHIO ST. Excellent job at getting the tackle spot taken care of later in the draft...Lucas might need a year due to that hip...while Trey could be a starter if he stays healthy, and Throck is a interchangeable guy on the OL...horrible combine, but on tape...like Trey, gets the job done with technique. Nailed some speed as a WR, and IMHO, the best gap power run blocker at center. Seems O'Grady has some attitude issues, thus why the Razorbacks released him Here's what O'Grady said on Feb. 25, 2020:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 10:46:48 GMT -5
R1P4 OT ANDREW THOMAS GEORGIA 36: R2P4 S GRANT DELPIT LSU 99: R3P35 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN 110: R4P4 RB ZACK MOSS UTAH 150: R5P4 TE CHEYENNE O'GRADY ARKANSAS183: R6P4 LB CAM BROWN PENN ST.218: R7P4 WR BINJIMEN VICTOR OHIO ST.238: R7P24 S SHYHEIM CARTER ALABAMA 247: R7P33 EDGE TIPA GALEAI UTAH ST. 255: R7P41 G JON RUNYAN MICHIGAN Those are 3 guys somewhat new on my radar who REALLY intrigue me My family lives really close to the U of Arkansas campus and I would watch almost all of their games (my god how they have fallen since I remembered watching them when I was young with D McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis all in one backfield lol). O’Grady is a really solid player. He had some off the field stuff. I can’t remember the specifics, but I think he didn’t get along with the coaching staff at all. He ended up walking away from the program mid season (some say they let it go down on his terms instead of kicking him off the team since he is a hometown kid). That being said as far as his play he is a good one. Not the fastest TE by any stretch of the imagination but has really good hands and is a load to bring down when he catches the ball. Kind of similar to how Gates/Witten played not saying he’ll be anywhere near that caliber of player but he isn’t going to be a guy who wins many foot races. He can still be effective for sure though. Kam Curl S from Arkansas is another under the radar guy I like from their team. Thanks...yeah I remember hearing that they released him during some college game I was watching during the season...seems like he has some talent but that quitting on the team with missing meeting and being "sore" does not sit right with me
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 12, 2020 11:06:50 GMT -5
A blessed Easter to all NY Giant fans...may you people all find happiness and joy in your lives. Remember people, if you draft a running back at 2, the road to happiness shall take at least 5 years, but have faith people, while thunder thighs may drop passes, miss blocking assignments and fail to have vision between the tackles, we shall now give him lanes to burst through. Yes you people that are all alike, we shall "make" a Barkley with this draft. Sure, I might argue any top NFL running back should be able to churn yards behind a solid line and creative play calling, but remember...we are always a jump cut away from a class act touchdown and a new poster bought for the wall. Speaking of people, why are some people...okay certain posters...claiming now, we need more talent on this defense, yet...were so happy to fire Bettcher, as the sole reason the defense was brutal. I suggested, IMHO, with fact...it was indeed not his fault, and this defense was not only lacking talent, it was young...with that all, shot down as blasphemy. Now, certain posters on board with the Bettcher firing, are now suggesting the same lack of talent I and a few others were spouting... as they yearn for a Simmons, and say 30th in defense, 17th in offense and the stat ...such a limited stat of course, but cherry picking stats, and bully clique herding of the nerding seems to be par for course on the Giants board. Let me say it again... We lacked talent last year, defense and OL...and the defense was NOT Bettcher's fault. And when I was watching and mocking Simmons to the Giants before 99% of any poster knew who he even was, I always suggested...a perfect Bettcher type play...Bettcher, ahead of his time at Arizona...using those interchangeable Swiss army knives. NY Giants...a mess with Dave Gettleman. Some UK fun with trades and a weak big board. 12: R1P12 OT TRISTEN WIRFSIOWA Jason Peters or there next great guard...high ceiling, high floor 19: R1P19 OT JEDRICK WILLS JR.ALABAMA Left tackle, right tackle...day 1 starter. Pass blocking master 45: R2P13 S JEREMY CHINNS. ILLINOIS Simmons clone....linebackers can be had all over this draft, as can safeties that can cover and tackle...no need to waste a 4 pick on Simmons as the "Chinn" can do it all as well....sorry Simmons people76: R3P12 WR/RB/QB/ST LYNN BOWDEN JR.KENTUCKY Versatile weapon who can play on offense, as many positions as the "Chinn" can on defense...a Swiss army knife on... offense. 99: R3P35 C NICK HARRISWASHINGTON Zone blocking master...surround him with beef and he will be a starting center day 1 117: R4P11 WR DEVIN DUVERNAYTEXAS Speed demon who never drops a thing...when they say depth in the draft, we are talking Devin in the 4th round. 139: R4P33 CB DARNAY HOLMESUCLA Incredibly talented corner 5 star recruit, with size concerns...perfect slot guy 150: R5P4 EDGE CURTIS WEAVERBOISE ST. This far does for the college production is insane. The guy could literally start on the DL... 183: R6P4 EDGE JASON STROWBRIDGEN. CAROLINA 6th round for the Strow man? Surely you jest. 218: R7P4 OT JACK DRISCOLLAUBURN Another silly spot for Driscoll...some could argue he was a better tackle than the Prince. 238: R7P24 WR KALIJA LIPSCOMBVANDERBILT Come on, now you are just toying with me...who says the UK people don't know football? Well, this big board is giving me proof. 247: R7P33 RB PATRICK TAYLOR JR.MEMPHIS Barkley wants outside, Taylor says downhill. I already know who I want to pick up my 3rd and 2...and it's anybody BUT Barkley 255: R7P41 OT CALVIN THROCKMORTONOREGON Will play guard or center in the NFL...not sure how he does it with the worse combine I ever seen, but the tape says...beats all competition. Could play tackle in a pinch. Nailed it with the monalogue... Beautiful draft to back it up Seems Bowden might not even make it to us at 99 if we stay put( in which case looking at what's there and peeking at the big board I might look elsewhere and get a guy like Gibson or Issah Wright later on day 3 ,both do the same thing) Lots of meat and speedy toys on offense...make the offense a juggernaut by 2021,have the defense be decent ,and with the top special teams in the league...2 out of 3 phases of the game won=10-6.... We delete Soldier and Tate next year..maybe even Zeitler... Use that money to keep Tomlinson (hopefully we salvage the Williams situation),we will have more of a grasp what the Carters,Xman,Ballentines,Bakers,Loves can do.. Use money saved on defense and go 90% of the 2021 draft on defense Weird big board
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 11:15:03 GMT -5
R1P4 OT ANDREW THOMAS GEORGIA 36: R2P4 S GRANT DELPIT LSU 99: R3P35 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN 110: R4P4 RB ZACK MOSS UTAH 150: R5P4 TE CHEYENNE O'GRADY ARKANSAS 183: R6P4 LB CAM BROWN PENN ST. 218: R7P4 WR BINJIMEN VICTOR OHIO ST. 238: R7P24 S SHYHEIM CARTER ALABAMA 247: R7P33 EDGE TIPA GALEAI UTAH ST. 255: R7P41 G JON RUNYAN MICHIGANThose are 3 guys somewhat new on my radar who REALLY intrigue me Kase, have you watched this guys tape? I've seen a few games, but the more I watch him, the more I am thinking mid round steal...plays left tackle and has stoned AJ Espenesa and the great Chase Young...a speed rusher and a power technique master...I'm liking this kid as we near D Day.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 12, 2020 11:44:03 GMT -5
No need repeating the monalogue my boy aris made... Echoed 100%.. Get the offensive side of the ball as complete as possible then build the rest next year
Just one trade with Jacksonville...
9: R1P9 OT ANDREW THOMAS GEORGIA
Wills and Wirfs went 7 and 8...no problem..get the guy that was the consensus top T in the draft and at one point a lock to go top 5...
20: R1P20 WR CEEDEE LAMB OKLAHOMA
Had to choose between Chaisson and Lamb... As many know Lamb has been my favorite of the WRs...and is number 7 on my personal big board. No brainer,position of need ... Lamb,Slayton,Engram,Smith,Barkley out of the 12..
36: R2P4 LB ZACK BAUN
This was the toughest pick Linebacker with really good pass rush skills that can be moved as a weapon at the 2nd level.. or my strategic reach style for a C....did not like how all the starters were stacked in the 60s and 70s.. Took the bite here and improved the 2nd level...
WISCONSIN 99: R3P35 C MATT HENNESSY TEMPLE
Got the last of the probable day one starters...we were SOL if he went.. Lesson learned...strategic reach here for a C..
110: R4P4 S JULIAN BLACKMON UTAH
Quality safety prospect on a great Utah defense...
150: R5P4 LB LOGAN WILSON WYOMING
Speedy highly athletic sideline to sideline player...steal potential here
183: R6P4 TE COLBY PARKINSON STANFORD
Moved off of him in recent drafts since we got the big guy... But he is another Kaden Smith Clone with good blocking fundamentals and gets chunk plays in the passing game
218: R7P4 RB DARIUS ANDERSON TCU
Backup to Barkley that does Bradshaw things Returner on special teams.
238: R7P24 G JON RUNYAN MICHIGAN
Day one starter at G in 2021(getting Zeitler's replacement now),and can play tackle
247: R7P33 EDGE TIPA GALEAI UTAH ST.
Raw athletic ...needs coaching
255: R7P41 WR ISAIAH WRIGHT TEMPLE
Want a Swiss army knife dynamic playmaker somewhere in this draft with hyper speed.
Killer returner...add him to Slayton and Lamb with the improved line in am 11 Wow
Still tough to get everything i wanted in my shopping cart with only one trade back and almost missed out on my C
I could have gone Chaisson at 20,Ruiz at 36,Brooks at 99 and Quez Watkins (still a bit in no man's land in the 5th but with Lamb no need for this guy) and come up with a nice haul as well...
Interesting how one pick can snowball your thought process the rest of the draft..
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 12, 2020 11:45:09 GMT -5
R1P4 OT ANDREW THOMAS GEORGIA 36: R2P4 S GRANT DELPIT LSU 99: R3P35 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN 110: R4P4 RB ZACK MOSS UTAH 150: R5P4 TE CHEYENNE O'GRADY ARKANSAS 183: R6P4 LB CAM BROWN PENN ST. 218: R7P4 WR BINJIMEN VICTOR OHIO ST. 238: R7P24 S SHYHEIM CARTER ALABAMA 247: R7P33 EDGE TIPA GALEAI UTAH ST. 255: R7P41 G JON RUNYAN MICHIGANThose are 3 guys somewhat new on my radar who REALLY intrigue me Kase, have you watched this guys tape? I've seen a few games, but the more I watch him, the more I am thinking mid round steal...plays left tackle and has stoned AJ Espenesa and the great Chase Young...a speed rusher and a power technique master...I'm liking this kid as we near D Day. Agreed on Runyon Don't be surprised if he is starting somewhere this year on day 1
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Post by nygfanstrick on Apr 12, 2020 13:08:18 GMT -5
12: R1P12 OT JEDRICK WILLS ALABAMA Stud OT who can start day one and will be a hopeful force on the OL for possibly the next decade.
36: R2P4 EDGE JOSH UCHE MICHIGAN Has LB and edge experience. I like his game a lot. He would be a good get for the team and it seems we are valuing versatility more than ever
46: R2P14 S JEREMY CHINN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS Versatility. Simmons Lite here and he would be someone who’d be a fan favorite. He can play all over the place and has surprisingly close measurements to the athletic freak, Simmons. Smaller comp in school, but the ability is all there.
77: R3P13 C MATT HENNESSY TEMPLE Day one starter at center. I really like his game. I want to walk out of the draft with him, Cushenberry, or Ruiz. I could understand going another route or waiting later but I think a good center to be brought in would be huge
83: R3P19 OT MATT PEART CONNECTICUT Really talented prospect. He could be developed easily to take over the other tackle spot next year. He shined on a bad UConn team
95: R3P31 TE HARRISON BRYANT FLORIDA ATLANTIC He would be awesome to get. Really talented TE. We know all too well how much Garrett loves TEs and gets the most out of them. Bryant and Engram would be ridiculous threats at TE and Levine T could be used as another lineman essentially at TE in certain looks
99: R3P35 WR DONOVAN PEOPLES-JONES MICHIGAN He could be a very good player. He is a guy who really suffered from bad QB play. He is going to be a steal for someone I truly believe
110: R4P4 LB TROY DYE OREGON Athletic modern LB that I’ve been hoping we would go after for years. Compliments what we have at LB currently very well
150: R5P4 DL RASHARD LAWRENCE LSU Really talented guy. At this point in the draft to be able to get someone this talented would be wild. DG also loves his big guys lol
183: R6P4 RB ANTONIO GIBSON MEMPHIS Dynamic and versatile player. Can play WR/RB/KR/PR
218: R7P4 WR DARNELL MOONEY TULANE 4.3 burner. I like him as a late round roll of the dice
238: R7P24 EDGE TREVIS GIPSON TULSA Talented edge. I doubt he falls this far but I’d run to the podium if he does
247: R7P33 CB ESSANG BASSEY WAKE FOREST Nickel CB candidate
255: R7P41 S KAM CURL ARKANSAS FS depth since Chinn would be able to play all over the place and Love isn’t a proven commodity yet granted I think he has the makings of a really solid player.
I wanted to do just one trade (Oakland 12 and 19 for 4) and then I got offered a 2nd and 3rd round picks for 19 and felt like I had to take it lol.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 13:14:28 GMT -5
12: R1P12 OT JEDRICK WILLS ALABAMA Stud OT who can start day one and will be a hopeful force on the OL for possibly the next decade. 36: R2P4 EDGE JOSH UCHE MICHIGAN Has LB and edge experience. I like his game a lot. He would be a good get for the team and it seems we are valuing versatility more than ever 46: R2P14 S JEREMY CHINN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS Versatility. Simmons Lite here and he would be someone who’d be a fan favorite. He can play all over the place and has surprisingly close measurements to the athletic freak, Simmons. Smaller comp in school, but the ability is all there.
77: R3P13 C MATT HENNESSY TEMPLE Day one starter at center. I really like his game. I want to walk out of the draft with him, Cushenberry, or Ruiz. I could understand going another route or waiting later but I think a good center to be brought in would be huge 83: R3P19 OT MATT PEART CONNECTICUT Really talented prospect. He could be developed easily to take over the other tackle spot next year. He shined on a bad UConn team 95: R3P31 TE HARRISON BRYANT FLORIDA ATLANTIC He would be awesome to get. Really talented TE. We know all too well how much Garrett loves TEs and gets the most out of them. Bryant and Engram would be ridiculous threats at TE and Levine T could be used as another lineman essentially at TE in certain looks 99: R3P35 WR DONOVAN PEOPLES-JONES MICHIGAN He could be a very good player. He is a guy who really suffered from bad QB play. He is going to be a steal for someone I truly believe 110: R4P4 LB TROY DYE OREGON Athletic modern LB that I’ve been hoping we would go after for years. Compliments what we have at LB currently very well 150: R5P4 DL RASHARD LAWRENCE LSU Really talented guy. At this point in the draft to be able to get someone this talented would be wild. DG also loves his big guys lol 183: R6P4 RB ANTONIO GIBSON MEMPHIS Dynamic and versatile player. Can play WR/RB/KR/PR 218: R7P4 WR DARNELL MOONEY TULANE 4.3 burner. I like him as a late round roll of the dice 238: R7P24 EDGE TREVIS GIPSON TULSA Talented edge. I doubt he falls this far but I’d run to the podium if he does 247: R7P33 CB ESSANG BASSEY WAKE FOREST Nickel CB candidate 255: R7P41 S KAM CURL ARKANSAS FS depth since Chinn would be able to play all over the place and Love isn’t a proven commodity yet granted I think he has the makings of a really solid player. I wanted to do just one trade (Oakland 12 and 19 for 4) and then I got offered a 2nd and 3rd round picks for 19 and felt like I had to take it lol. Yep, and you could argue that Simmons was only a 3 star high school recruit, and if Chinn played at Clemson, he could of been close to the next Simmons...I think the Chinn is going to be a player in the NFL
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 13:44:17 GMT -5
I love this draft 7: R1P7 LB ISAIAH SIMMONS CLEMSON 39: R2P7 CB PAULSON ADEBOSTANFORD 71: R3P7 DL MARVIN WILSONFLORIDA 98: R3P34 G MEKHI BECTON LOUISVILLE 113: R4P7 LB TROY DYE OREGON 151: R5P7 WR COLLIN JOHNSON TEXAS 185: R6P7 CB DAMON ARNETTE OHIO STATE 235: R7P22 CB ESSANG BASSEY WAKE FOREST 240: R7P27 OT LIAM EICHENBERGNOTRE DAME 247: R7P34 RB REGGIE CORBIN ILLINOIS 253: R7P40 WR TYRIE CLEVELAND FLORIDA 255: R7P42 WR JUWAN JOHNSON OREGON My first mock with Simmons in October....we were picking 7 at this time, so must of won a game or two... Lined out players went back to school for their senior year, and Becton, who was a freak to start the season for the Cardinals and mocking in 7th rounds, was showing promise as he lost weight...one constant, Reggie Corbin. Arnette in the 6th round?
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 12, 2020 15:02:51 GMT -5
R1P4 OT ANDREW THOMAS GEORGIA 36: R2P4 S GRANT DELPIT LSU 99: R3P35 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN 110: R4P4 RB ZACK MOSS UTAH 150: R5P4 TE CHEYENNE O'GRADY ARKANSAS 183: R6P4 LB CAM BROWN PENN ST. 218: R7P4 WR BINJIMEN VICTOR OHIO ST. 238: R7P24 S SHYHEIM CARTER ALABAMA 247: R7P33 EDGE TIPA GALEAI UTAH ST. 255: R7P41 G JON RUNYAN MICHIGANThose are 3 guys somewhat new on my radar who REALLY intrigue me Kase, have you watched this guys tape? I've seen a few games, but the more I watch him, the more I am thinking mid round steal...plays left tackle and has stoned AJ Espenesa and the great Chase Young...a speed rusher and a power technique master...I'm liking this kid as we near D Day. Honestly, no, i havent watched much of his tape. Just read some things and am familiar with the last name. I know he was an LT, but alot of people are projecting him as a RT or OG
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Post by nygfanstrick on Apr 12, 2020 15:27:10 GMT -5
12: R1P12 OT JEDRICK WILLS ALABAMA Stud OT who can start day one and will be a hopeful force on the OL for possibly the next decade. 36: R2P4 EDGE JOSH UCHE MICHIGAN Has LB and edge experience. I like his game a lot. He would be a good get for the team and it seems we are valuing versatility more than ever 46: R2P14 S JEREMY CHINN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS Versatility. Simmons Lite here and he would be someone who’d be a fan favorite. He can play all over the place and has surprisingly close measurements to the athletic freak, Simmons. Smaller comp in school, but the ability is all there.
77: R3P13 C MATT HENNESSY TEMPLE Day one starter at center. I really like his game. I want to walk out of the draft with him, Cushenberry, or Ruiz. I could understand going another route or waiting later but I think a good center to be brought in would be huge 83: R3P19 OT MATT PEART CONNECTICUT Really talented prospect. He could be developed easily to take over the other tackle spot next year. He shined on a bad UConn team 95: R3P31 TE HARRISON BRYANT FLORIDA ATLANTIC He would be awesome to get. Really talented TE. We know all too well how much Garrett loves TEs and gets the most out of them. Bryant and Engram would be ridiculous threats at TE and Levine T could be used as another lineman essentially at TE in certain looks 99: R3P35 WR DONOVAN PEOPLES-JONES MICHIGAN He could be a very good player. He is a guy who really suffered from bad QB play. He is going to be a steal for someone I truly believe 110: R4P4 LB TROY DYE OREGON Athletic modern LB that I’ve been hoping we would go after for years. Compliments what we have at LB currently very well 150: R5P4 DL RASHARD LAWRENCE LSU Really talented guy. At this point in the draft to be able to get someone this talented would be wild. DG also loves his big guys lol 183: R6P4 RB ANTONIO GIBSON MEMPHIS Dynamic and versatile player. Can play WR/RB/KR/PR 218: R7P4 WR DARNELL MOONEY TULANE 4.3 burner. I like him as a late round roll of the dice 238: R7P24 EDGE TREVIS GIPSON TULSA Talented edge. I doubt he falls this far but I’d run to the podium if he does 247: R7P33 CB ESSANG BASSEY WAKE FOREST Nickel CB candidate 255: R7P41 S KAM CURL ARKANSAS FS depth since Chinn would be able to play all over the place and Love isn’t a proven commodity yet granted I think he has the makings of a really solid player. I wanted to do just one trade (Oakland 12 and 19 for 4) and then I got offered a 2nd and 3rd round picks for 19 and felt like I had to take it lol. Yep, and you could argue that Simmons was only a 3 star high school recruit, and if Chinn played at Clemson, he could of been close to the next Simmons...I think the Chinn is going to be a player in the NFL I agree completely. You could even argue Chinn is better is certain areas. From what I’ve seen Chinn appears to have better ball skills for example. I think Chinn could be placed at LB and moved around when needed very similar to how Simmons will likely be utilized. I also think Dugger is a similar type of player
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 12, 2020 15:56:34 GMT -5
Yep, and you could argue that Simmons was only a 3 star high school recruit, and if Chinn played at Clemson, he could of been close to the next Simmons...I think the Chinn is going to be a player in the NFL I agree completely. You could even argue Chinn is better is certain areas. From what I’ve seen Chinn appears to have better ball skills for example. I think Chinn could be placed at LB and moved around when needed very similar to how Simmons will likely be utilized. I also think Dugger is a similar type of player Id rather have Chinn because he is better at one thing (ball skills)than Simmons is at any one thing....and can do similar type things.... Id gladly trade the ultra freak athleticism for someone that actually is really good at one thing but does similar things as "the toy" later in the draft And yeah Uche is a 2nd round target for the exact reason you stated...he is more than just an edge rusher....take away his above average pass rush skills is is still a very solid OLB prospect.
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Post by nygfanstrick on Apr 12, 2020 16:09:10 GMT -5
I agree completely. You could even argue Chinn is better is certain areas. From what I’ve seen Chinn appears to have better ball skills for example. I think Chinn could be placed at LB and moved around when needed very similar to how Simmons will likely be utilized. I also think Dugger is a similar type of player Id rather have Chinn because he is better at one thing (ball skills)than Simmons is at any one thing....and can do similar type things.... Id gladly trade the ultra freak athleticism for someone that actually is really good at one thing but does similar things as "the toy" later in the draft And yeah Uche is a 2nd round target for the exact reason you stated...he is more than just an edge rusher....take away his above average pass rush skills is is still a very solid OLB prospect. I really want them to be able to get at least another pick or two for day 2. I think that’s going to be a prime area to get a lot of talented players. Guys like Chinn, Uche, Ruiz, Hennessy, OT prospects, good WRs including possibly Mims (although I wouldn’t be shocked if he ended up rd 1), and many more.
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 13, 2020 12:23:47 GMT -5
I agree completely. You could even argue Chinn is better is certain areas. From what I’ve seen Chinn appears to have better ball skills for example. I think Chinn could be placed at LB and moved around when needed very similar to how Simmons will likely be utilized. I also think Dugger is a similar type of player Id rather have Chinn because he is better at one thing (ball skills)than Simmons is at any one thing....and can do similar type things.... Id gladly trade the ultra freak athleticism for someone that actually is really good at one thing but does similar things as "the toy" later in the draft And yeah Uche is a 2nd round target for the exact reason you stated...he is more than just an edge rusher....take away his above average pass rush skills is is still a very solid OLB prospect. I gotta say Uche, Baun, and Chaisson are probably my favorite 2nd tier edge rushers this year
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Post by nygfanstrick on Apr 13, 2020 13:39:46 GMT -5
Tried to make a mock where I could see us going without trade backs. Really wanted to try and go inside the mind of DG with a lot of these picks lol
4: R1P4 OT TRISTAN WIRFS IOWA- I have a feeling he loves Wirfs. He loves his lineman on both sides of the ball and he seems to love big guys who can move well (ex Dexter Lawrence). Wirfs is a freak of nature as far as athleticism. He isn’t my favorite to go in this spot at all, probably 3rd favorite OT for the spot, but I’d understand 100% if they went this direction.
36: R2P4 LB KENNETH MURRAY OKLAHOMA- I think there’s a pretty decent chance he falls a bit. He’s a very likable, high character guy who plays with a high motor. He would be a fan favorite for sure. I really like his game and I’d be really surprised if he is on the board here.
99: R3P35 EDGE DARRELL TAYLOR TENNESSEE- DG loves familiarity with players and with the unique situation we have going on, familiarity in the draft could play a huge factor in selections. Our new strength coach is from Tennessee and familiar with Taylor. Taylor has all the ability but needs to show more consistency. He could be a stud if he pieces it together
110: R4P4 C NICK HARRIS WASHINGTON- I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if we didn’t even draft a center. It sounds like DG would be more than comfortable rolling with Gates at center. Harris is a good mid round option I think.
150: R5P4 WR QUEZ WATKINS SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI- DG likes athleticism and Watkins has some serious speed. Garrett has shown interest in having fast players on his offense like Gallup, Austin, Terrance Williams, etc. I do think if they go WR they will go for a speed guy or a big WR (or both)
183: R6P4 S KENNY ROBINSON XFL- player in the XFL in NY. One of the more interesting stories with him going from WVU to the XFL to being draft eligible. I like what I’ve seen from him and there are a lot of positive reports on him.
218: R7P4 TE C.J. O'GRADY ARKANSAS- reliable hands and a big body as a receiver at the TE position. He’s a good value at this point and worth the gamble with the red flags
238: R7P24 DL MCTELVIN AGIM ARKANSAS- I just noticed Agim is being projected around the 7th round consistently which is absolutely ridiculous to me. He’s EASILY a day 2 talent. He’s a guy DG would love. Able to get pressure and cause disruption from the DT spot. Could be a 3-4DE who can get pressure on the QB. He’s really good legitimately. In the 7th I’d be sprinting to the podium. I’d take him in the 3rd probably if we didn’t have bigger needs
247: R7P33 EDGE TREVIS GIPSON TULSA- another guy I have no idea why he’s consistently ranked this low. He has the ability to be a really solid edge rotation guy at the least.
255: R7P41 RB PATRICK TAYLOR JR. MEMPHIS- power runner who compliments Barkley and Lewis well
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 18:51:07 GMT -5
12: R1P12 OT TRISTAN WIRFS IOWA
19: R1P19 LB PATRICK QUEEN LSU
36: R2P4 OT ISAIAH WILSON GEORGIA
86: R3P22 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN
99: R3P35 S ANTOINE WINFIELD MINNESOTA
119: R4P13 WR CHASE CLAYPOOL NOTRE DAME
128: R4P22 WR QUINTEZ CEPHUS WISCONSIN
143: R4P37 CB DARNAY HOLMES UCLA
150: R5P4 CB ESSANG BASSEY WAKE FOREST
183: R6P4 S KYLE DUGGER LENOIR-RHYNE
218: R7P4 S TANNER MUSE CLEMSON
238: R7P24 RB A.J. DILLON BOSTON COLLEGE
247: R7P33 G JON RUNYAN MICHIGAN
255: R7P41 DL LEKI FOTU UTAH
TRADES TRADE PARTNER: ATLANTA FALCONS SENT: ROUND: 4 PICK: 4 RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 13 ROUND: 4 PICK: 37 TRADE PARTNER: BUFFALO BILLS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 16 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 ROUND: 4 PICK: 22 TRADE PARTNER: LAS VEGAS RAIDERS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 4 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 12 ROUND: 1 PICK: 19 ROUND: 3 PICK: 16
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Post by nygfanstrick on Apr 13, 2020 20:18:19 GMT -5
12: R1P12 OT MEKHI BECTON LOUISVILLE 19: R1P19 LB PATRICK QUEEN LSU 45: R2P13 WR MICHAEL PITTMAN JR. USC 76: R3P12 C CESAR RUIZ MICHIGAN 80: R3P16 S ASHTYN DAVIS CALIFORNIA 99: R3P35 EDGE DARRELL TAYLOR TENNESSEE 110: R4P4 CB AMIK ROBERTSON LOUISIANA TECH 150: R5P4 OT CHARLIE HECK NORTH CAROLINA 183: R6P4 G CAMERON CLARK CHARLOTTE 218: R7P4 DL MCTELVIN AGIM ARKANSAS 238: R7P24 EDGE TREVIS GIPSON TULSA 247: R7P33 TE C.J. O'GRADY ARKANSAS 255: R7P41 RB DARIUS ANDERSON TCU
TRADES TRADE PARTNER: LAS VEGAS RAIDERS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 4 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 12 ROUND: 1 PICK: 19 ROUND: 3 PICK: 16 TRADE PARTNER: TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 4 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 13 ROUND: 3 PICK: 12
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 6:06:01 GMT -5
Seems the Raiders are sweetening the deal now with a 3rd round pick...Davis, Queen and Becton...or Simmons. Killer trade and haul ....
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Post by nygfanstrick on Apr 14, 2020 8:49:07 GMT -5
Seems the Raiders are sweetening the deal now with a 3rd round pick...Davis, Queen and Becton...or Simmons. Killer trade and haul .... I have gotten that offer once or twice but I always completely mess up the draft so I don’t post it LOL Yeah, I’d take those 3 over Simmons any day of the week. I mean, ideally one of the other OTs (Wills OT Thomas specifically) would be there at 12 but Becton could become the best out of the group or very very good. I do find some peace in knowing we have someone like Levine T who can basically be used as an extra OT to help out the rookie OT we bring in and/or Solder. 3 needs > 1 need albeit Simmons could potentially fill more than one need due to versatility. I JUST missed out on Chinn too lol. Pittman is a guy that I really don’t see mentioned a lot but I absolutely love. It seems like guys like Reagor and others could potentially help him move down. Getting 2 firsts and a 3rd really opens things up to swing for the fences with that 2nd round pick. Pittman would make Jones’ job a lot easier similar to Plax
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 9:04:16 GMT -5
Seems the Raiders are sweetening the deal now with a 3rd round pick...Davis, Queen and Becton...or Simmons. Killer trade and haul .... I have gotten that offer once or twice but I always completely mess up the draft so I don’t post it LOL Yeah, I’d take those 3 over Simmons any day of the week. I mean, ideally one of the other OTs (Wills OT Thomas specifically) would be there at 12 but Becton could become the best out of the group or very very good. I do find some peace in knowing we have someone like Levine T who can basically be used as an extra OT to help out the rookie OT we bring in and/or Solder. 3 needs > 1 need albeit Simmons could potentially fill more than one need due to versatility. I JUST missed out on Chinn too lol. Pittman is a guy that I really don’t see mentioned a lot but I absolutely love. It seems like guys like Reagor and others could potentially help him move down. Getting 2 firsts and a 3rd really opens things up to swing for the fences with that 2nd round pick. Pittman would make Jones’ job a lot easier similar to Plax Yeah, I had Pittman on some early in the year mocks...nice size and skillset. Yet another early day 2 talent that will be a steal ...no way we pass on WR this year. If only we had that easy 3rd we gave up for Williams ... if nothing else, then for a piece to trade up if we a 1st round talent dropping past our 2nd rounder
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Post by nygfanstrick on Apr 14, 2020 9:11:52 GMT -5
I have gotten that offer once or twice but I always completely mess up the draft so I don’t post it LOL Yeah, I’d take those 3 over Simmons any day of the week. I mean, ideally one of the other OTs (Wills OT Thomas specifically) would be there at 12 but Becton could become the best out of the group or very very good. I do find some peace in knowing we have someone like Levine T who can basically be used as an extra OT to help out the rookie OT we bring in and/or Solder. 3 needs > 1 need albeit Simmons could potentially fill more than one need due to versatility. I JUST missed out on Chinn too lol. Pittman is a guy that I really don’t see mentioned a lot but I absolutely love. It seems like guys like Reagor and others could potentially help him move down. Getting 2 firsts and a 3rd really opens things up to swing for the fences with that 2nd round pick. Pittman would make Jones’ job a lot easier similar to Plax Yeah, I had Pittman on some early in the year mocks...nice size and skillset. Yet another early day 2 talent that will be a steal ...no way we pass on WR this year. If only we had that easy 3rd we gave up for Williams ... if nothing else, then for a piece to trade up if we a 1st round talent dropping past our 2nd rounder Exactly. We would still have that early 3rd where there will certainly be VERY good prospects still on the board. Then we could have signed Williams, Clowney or whoever and still have that valuable pick. I really want them to trade back to try and get some more options at day 1/2 This WR class really is insane honestly. JJ/Lamb/Ruggs could all be superstars. Higgins/Mims/Jefferson/Reagor/Pittman/Aiyuk and many more could be very very good. Q Watkins/Proche/ and many more mid round options who could be really solid players. I want an extra pick day 2 to get a really good WR prospect
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Post by TheAnalyst on Apr 14, 2020 13:45:47 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 14, 2020 13:49:56 GMT -5
This happens all the time I get called into my office for a random 5 minutes after peeing...... You need to have liquids on call when you gou in for the test within 30 minutes Yep I'm peeing crystal clear
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 14, 2020 15:21:36 GMT -5
hmmmmmm could this drop his stock a little bit??? That would be great for us
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