Joint practices with Lions this week.

[jimmieray]

So our team will be having joint practices with the Lions, 3 days this week, then the 2nd preseason game on Friday. I know other teams have done this in recent years, not sure if our team ever has?

Obviously, this will create an uptick practice intensity, and a better feel of how plays work or get defensed, with the less familiarity between the players.

But is there a greater potential of injury, or feuds developing that build each day or carry into the game?

Just wondering what anyones' feelings are on this?

[Deleted]

Injuries can happen at anytime. Teams hold joint practices all the time. It is what it is. No big deal.

[GameTime]

both teams realize the injury potential right?

Its like the Lions are going all out and the Giants wont be.
I also heard Shumur saying that he and Patricia are dictating the "tempo" pf the practices. So they are doing what they can to keep it "civil".

Eli even commented that its more about "unkown" defense vs playing your own guys all the time .

[bringsimmsback]

Aug 13, 2018 8:21:52 GMT -5 jimmieray said:

So our team will be having joint practices with the Lions, 3 days this week, then the 2nd preseason game on Friday. I know other teams have done this in recent years, not sure if our team ever has?

Obviously, this will create an uptick practice intensity, and a better feel of how plays work or get defensed, with the less familiarity between the players.

But is there a greater potential of injury, or feuds developing that build each day or carry into the game?

Just wondering what anyones' feelings are on this?

Giants haven't done it for a while but had joint practice with the Bengals in the past. The hosts o BBKL talked of joint practices being more useful than preseason games in some ways. You get to see players in way more reps at a higher intensity level than regular practice. I'm not sure why Coughlin didn't do them again after the Bengals but I vaguely recall a lot of fights.

[GameTime]

Aug 13, 2018 8:42:11 GMT -5 bringsimmsback said:

Aug 13, 2018 8:21:52 GMT -5 jimmieray said:

So our team will be having joint practices with the Lions, 3 days this week, then the 2nd preseason game on Friday. I know other teams have done this in recent years, not sure if our team ever has?

Obviously, this will create an uptick practice intensity, and a better feel of how plays work or get defensed, with the less familiarity between the players.

But is there a greater potential of injury, or feuds developing that build each day or carry into the game?

Just wondering what anyones' feelings are on this?

Giants haven't done it for a while but had joint practice with the Bengals in the past. The hosts o BBKL talked of joint practices being more useful than preseason games in some ways. You get to see players in way more reps at a higher intensity level than regular practice. I'm not sure why Coughlin didn't do them again after the Bengals but I vaguely recall a lot of fights.

I believe the Jets too...no?

[bringsimmsback]

Aug 13, 2018 8:43:28 GMT -5 GameTime said:

Aug 13, 2018 8:42:11 GMT -5 bringsimmsback said:

Giants haven't done it for a while but had joint practice with the Bengals in the past. The hosts o BBKL talked of joint practices being more useful than preseason games in some ways. You get to see players in way more reps at a higher intensity level than regular practice. I'm not sure why Coughlin didn't do them again after the Bengals but I vaguely recall a lot of fights.

I believe the Jets too...no?

I don't recall and a quick Google search didn't show anything- except massive fights between the Jets and Redskins when they did it this year

[keyofgmen]

Aug 13, 2018 8:43:28 GMT -5 GameTime said:

Aug 13, 2018 8:42:11 GMT -5 bringsimmsback said:

Giants haven't done it for a while but had joint practice with the Bengals in the past. The hosts o BBKL talked of joint practices being more useful than preseason games in some ways. You get to see players in way more reps at a higher intensity level than regular practice. I'm not sure why Coughlin didn't do them again after the Bengals but I vaguely recall a lot of fights.

I believe the Jets too...no?

Years ago the Jets and I think Steelers.

[jimmieray]

Aug 13, 2018 8:40:50 GMT -5 GameTime said:

both teams realize the injury potential right?

Its like the Lions are going all out and the Giants wont be.
I also heard Shumur saying that he and Patricia are dictating the "tempo" pf the practices. So they are doing what they can to keep it "civil".

Eli even commented that its more about "unkown" defense vs playing your own guys all the time .

Yes, Shurmur talked about doing joint practices when he was with the Eagles, possibly with Patricia in the past, and didn't anticipate issues.

[wtfjjk]

I remember we used to do this with the Jets and things got chippy so they had to stop practice one time. I think the last time we did this was when Herm Edwards was coaching them.

[ThatGuyRich]

Aug 13, 2018 8:43:28 GMT -5 GameTime said:

Aug 13, 2018 8:42:11 GMT -5 bringsimmsback said:

Giants haven't done it for a while but had joint practice with the Bengals in the past. The hosts o BBKL talked of joint practices being more useful than preseason games in some ways. You get to see players in way more reps at a higher intensity level than regular practice. I'm not sure why Coughlin didn't do them again after the Bengals but I vaguely recall a lot of fights.

I believe the Jets too...no?

Yes that's what I remember. TC felt the Jet players were taking cheap shots and hitting when they felt it was suppose to be no contact. TC and Rex Ryan had words after the practice and TC felt he couldn't trust Rex anymore after that. He canceled it. That's what I remember.

[RogerThat]

Well, this could happen:

nypost.com/2018/08/12/wild-jets-redskins-brawl-breaks-out-at-practice/

[GameTime]

Aug 13, 2018 9:30:18 GMT -5 ThatGuyRich said:

Aug 13, 2018 8:43:28 GMT -5 GameTime said:

I believe the Jets too...no?

Yes that's what I remember. TC felt the Jet players were taking cheap shots and hitting when they felt it was suppose to be no contact. TC and Rex Ryan had words after the practice and TC felt he couldn't trust Rex anymore after that. He canceled it. That's what I remember.

Rex Ryan....
can stand him as a HC.  He was terrible overall. 

[jimmieray]

Aug 13, 2018 9:30:18 GMT -5 ThatGuyRich said:

Aug 13, 2018 8:43:28 GMT -5 GameTime said:

I believe the Jets too...no?

Yes that's what I remember. TC felt the Jet players were taking cheap shots and hitting when they felt it was suppose to be no contact. TC and Rex Ryan had words after the practice and TC felt he couldn't trust Rex anymore after that. He canceled it. That's what I remember.

Yeah, I do recall that, now. Maybe it's why our team hasn't done it, since.

[Deleted]

Still wish they'd go to two preseason games, too much BS can happen in four.

[nysports98]

hence, there is no reason for preseason games as i se it.

[Roosevelt]

Everything will be fine. 

www.nbcsports.com/washington/video/williams-kelley-and-bowles-break-down-redskins-jets-fights

[Deleted]

There will be a scuffle for sure.

Dudes who are on the cusp of making an NFL roster will be going harder in practice than others appreciate. It will lead to a little brew-ha-ha

[Deleted]

Aug 13, 2018 8:46:21 GMT -5 keyofgmen said:

Aug 13, 2018 8:43:28 GMT -5 GameTime said:

I believe the Jets too...no?

Years ago the Jets and I think Steelers.

The Steelers would make sense considering the ownership ties.

[Deleted]

Aug 13, 2018 8:21:52 GMT -5 jimmieray said:

So our team will be having joint practices with the Lions, 3 days this week, then the 2nd preseason game on Friday. I know other teams have done this in recent years, not sure if our team ever has?

Obviously, this will create an uptick practice intensity, and a better feel of how plays work or get defensed, with the less familiarity between the players.

But is there a greater potential of injury, or feuds developing that build each day or carry into the game?

Just wondering what anyones' feelings are on this?

Any chance of Matthew Stafford getting on the wrong bus and ending up with the Giants?

[Parademon1]

Those of you wanting just a 2 game preseason are being unrealistic. Don't teams go into the pre-season with 90+ players that they have to wittle down to 53 at the end of the final pre-season game? How are they gonna do that with just 2 preseason games? Don't play the starters at all & just put in the #2s & #3s in both games? Not happening. HC just has to play the starters 2-3 series in week 1 & week 3, let the 2s & 3s play all the rest of the time. There is no need to see the starters an entire half of a game, that's asking for trouble. Eli, OBJ, SB, Engram, Shep don't need to play that much in the pre-season. Now the OL, they need all the reps they can get imo. I'd keep them in for a half in all 4 games. The OL is gonna be the main reason we win 5 games this yr or 10+ imo. The game is won in the trenches.

[jimmieray]

Aug 13, 2018 12:31:50 GMT -5 @bronxpinstripes said:

Aug 13, 2018 8:21:52 GMT -5 jimmieray said:

So our team will be having joint practices with the Lions, 3 days this week, then the 2nd preseason game on Friday. I know other teams have done this in recent years, not sure if our team ever has?

Obviously, this will create an uptick practice intensity, and a better feel of how plays work or get defensed, with the less familiarity between the players.

But is there a greater potential of injury, or feuds developing that build each day or carry into the game?

Just wondering what anyones' feelings are on this?

Any chance of Matthew Stafford getting on the wrong bus and ending up with the Giants?

I heard they had to lock Beckham in a cage, to keep him from jumping ship to the Browns when our team went to Cleveland for the first preseason game.

[Deleted]

Aug 13, 2018 12:53:20 GMT -5 Parademon1 said:

Those of you wanting just a 2 game preseason are being unrealistic. Don't teams go into the pre-season with 90+ players that they have to wittle down to 53 at the end of the final pre-season game? How are they gonna do that with just 2 preseason games? Don't play the starters at all & just put in the #2s & #3s in both games? Not happening. HC just has to play the starters 2-3 series in week 1 & week 3, let the 2s & 3s play all the rest of the time. There is no need to see the starters an entire half of a game, that's asking for trouble. Eli, OBJ, SB, Engram, Shep don't need to play that much in the pre-season. Now the OL, they need all the reps they can get imo. I'd keep them in for a half in all 4 games. The OL is gonna be the main reason we win 5 games this yr or 10+ imo. The game is won in the trenches.

Most NFL teams go into the preseason with about 50 of the 53 roster spots already decided.  This isn't the 1960s where the factory worker takes a couple of weeks off and goes and makes the Patriots.

[Deleted]

Aug 13, 2018 13:10:56 GMT -5 jimmieray said:

Aug 13, 2018 12:31:50 GMT -5 @bronxpinstripes said:

Any chance of Matthew Stafford getting on the wrong bus and ending up with the Giants?

I heard they had to lock Beckham in a cage, to keep him from jumping ship to the Browns when our team went to Cleveland for the first preseason game.

Not sure I'd blame him with the difference in quarterback situations between the two teams.  We all like to bag on the Browns (despite our current position), but...I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Browns won more games this year than we did 

[Sarcasman]

Aug 13, 2018 13:10:56 GMT -5 jimmieray said:

Aug 13, 2018 12:31:50 GMT -5 @bronxpinstripes said:

Any chance of Matthew Stafford getting on the wrong bus and ending up with the Giants?

I heard they had to lock Beckham in a cage, to keep him from jumping ship to the Browns when our team went to Cleveland for the first preseason game.

lol! just what we need another gigantic choking QB contract just with out the trophies.

History indicates that the perspective on him changes dramatically once he dons a Giants uniform. Maybe not though, we may be much more disingenuous than I thought.

[Sarcasman]

Aug 13, 2018 12:53:20 GMT -5 Parademon1 said:

Those of you wanting just a 2 game preseason are being unrealistic. Don't teams go into the pre-season with 90+ players that they have to wittle down to 53 at the end of the final pre-season game? How are they gonna do that with just 2 preseason games? Don't play the starters at all & just put in the #2s & #3s in both games? Not happening. HC just has to play the starters 2-3 series in week 1 & week 3, let the 2s & 3s play all the rest of the time. There is no need to see the starters an entire half of a game, that's asking for trouble. Eli, OBJ, SB, Engram, Shep don't need to play that much in the pre-season. Now the OL, they need all the reps they can get imo. I'd keep them in for a half in all 4 games. The OL is gonna be the main reason we win 5 games this yr or 10+ imo. The game is won in the trenches.

I expect that gets done in practice.  A small handful of series in an exhibition game or two shouldn't be the parameter that defines the roster.  

[Deleted]

Aug 13, 2018 13:21:59 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

Aug 13, 2018 13:10:56 GMT -5 jimmieray said:

I heard they had to lock Beckham in a cage, to keep him from jumping ship to the Browns when our team went to Cleveland for the first preseason game.

lol! just what we need another gigantic choking QB contract just with out the trophies.

History indicates that the perspective on him changes dramatically once he dons a Giants uniform. Maybe not though, we may be much more disingenuous than I thought.

Huh?

[Sarcasman]

Aug 13, 2018 13:24:10 GMT -5 @bronxpinstripes said:

Aug 13, 2018 13:21:59 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

lol! just what we need another gigantic choking QB contract just with out the trophies.

History indicates that the perspective on him changes dramatically once he dons a Giants uniform. Maybe not though, we may be much more disingenuous than I thought.

Huh?

Which part? 

[Deleted]

Aug 13, 2018 14:06:07 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

Aug 13, 2018 13:24:10 GMT -5 @bronxpinstripes said:

Huh?

Which part? 

Oh, I get the first part...Mark Rypien was a better quarterback than Dan Marino.  It was the second part that confused me.

[TEM]

Aug 13, 2018 9:16:26 GMT -5 wtfjjk said:

I remember we used to do this with the Jets and things got chippy so they had to stop practice one time. I think the last time we did this was when Herm Edwards was coaching them.

I think the whole Jets with the chip on their shoulder came from the  pre season game when Pennington went down in 2003 . The following year is when the problems began with fights.

[Sarcasman]

Aug 13, 2018 18:38:22 GMT -5 @bronxpinstripes said:

Aug 13, 2018 14:06:07 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

Which part? 

Oh, I get the first part...Mark Rypien was a better quarterback than Dan Marino.  It was the second part that confused me.

That's ludicrous, I never said that.  Do you think Rypien is a better QB than Marino?  I just pointed out that $25mm a year doesn't buy nearly as much QB as it used to do.

The second part ought to be pretty self evident.