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Post by wtfjjk on Aug 13, 2018 11:07:25 GMT -5
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Post by bringsimmsback on Aug 13, 2018 11:18:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 11:36:19 GMT -5
Now this is funny...
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Post by wtfjjk on Aug 13, 2018 11:55:27 GMT -5
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Post by GameTime on Aug 13, 2018 12:03:20 GMT -5
what?...
aint happening in their current situation. Unless the trade OB....
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Post by Kase1 on Aug 13, 2018 12:12:40 GMT -5
As much as I would LOVE Mack on our Defense, the only way to get him would be trade Odell and unload some cap space
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 12:20:15 GMT -5
what?... aint happening in their current situation. Unless the trade OB.... Do you think they'd take Davis Webb for Mack?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 12:32:04 GMT -5
what?... aint happening in their current situation. Unless the trade OB.... Do you think they'd take Davis Webb for Mack? Throw in our “second best WR” Latimer and it’s a done deal I’m sure.
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 13, 2018 12:36:43 GMT -5
yea here is the Vegas break down: Packers: 3/1 Raiders: 4/1 Jets: 7/1 Bills: 7/1 Redskins: 7/1 Steelers: 10/1 Giants: 10/1 Any other team: 4/1 So if any other team has 4-1 odds the Giants & Steelers have the worst odds of all 32 teams lol at 10-1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 12:37:58 GMT -5
OV should give the Giants some good production this year.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 13, 2018 12:53:55 GMT -5
yea here is the Vegas break down: Packers: 3/1 Raiders: 4/1 Jets: 7/1 Bills: 7/1 Redskins: 7/1 Steelers: 10/1 Giants: 10/1 Any other team: 4/1 So if any other team has 4-1 odds the Giants & Steelers have the worst odds of all 32 teams lol at 10-1 By my math that's over 100%. It's almost 150%.
That is of course mathamatically impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 13:06:03 GMT -5
yea here is the Vegas break down: Packers: 3/1 Raiders: 4/1 Jets: 7/1 Bills: 7/1 Redskins: 7/1 Steelers: 10/1 Giants: 10/1 Any other team: 4/1 So if any other team has 4-1 odds the Giants & Steelers have the worst odds of all 32 teams lol at 10-1 By my math that's over 100%. It's almost 150%.
That is of course mathamatically impossible.
I think you're reading it wrong..."Any other team: 4/1" doesn't mean each individual team is 4/1. It means the odds of him going to any other team besides the ones listed is 4/1.
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Post by DonnieYen on Aug 13, 2018 13:23:26 GMT -5
If It cost Odell I say no way.
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Post by DonnieYen on Aug 13, 2018 13:26:23 GMT -5
By my math that's over 100%. It's almost 150%.
That is of course mathamatically impossible.
I think you're reading it wrong..."Any other team: 4/1" doesn't mean each individual team is 4/1. It means the odds of him going to any other team besides the ones listed is 4/1. I personally think all these odds of where he Is going to be traded total BS I mean either were the favorites to land him or not what is it already?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 13:32:19 GMT -5
If It cost Odell I say no way. What good is Odell if we don't have a quarterback that can get the ball to him in 2019? Mack can shut down opposing offenses, and maybe Barkley can break one long touchdown run per game...win 7-0.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 13, 2018 13:33:57 GMT -5
By my math that's over 100%. It's almost 150%.
That is of course mathamatically impossible.
I think you're reading it wrong..."Any other team: 4/1" doesn't mean each individual team is 4/1. It means the odds of him going to any other team besides the ones listed is 4/1. I get that. do the math.
33% chance Packers 25% chance Raiders 15% chance Jets 15% chance Bills 15% chance Redskins 10% chance Steelers 10% chance Giants 25% chance any other team
That's almost 150%
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 13:46:30 GMT -5
I think you're reading it wrong..."Any other team: 4/1" doesn't mean each individual team is 4/1. It means the odds of him going to any other team besides the ones listed is 4/1. I get that. do the math.
33% chance Packers 25% chance Raiders 15% chance Jets 15% chance Bills 15% chance Redskins 10% chance Steelers 10% chance Giants 25% chance any other team
That's almost 150%
Vegas odds on 2019 Super Bowl winner... Patriots - 6-1 (17%) Rams - 10-1 (10%) Vikings - 10-1 (10%) Steelers - 10-1 (10%) Eagles - 10-1 (10%) Packers - 14-1 (7%) Falcons - 16-1 (6.25%) Texans - 16-1 (6.25%) Jaguars - 16-1 (6.25%) Chargers - 16-1 (6.25%) Saints - 18-1 (5.5%) Raiders - 18-1 (5.5%) 49ers - 20-1 (5%) Chiefs - 20-1 Giants - 20-1 Lions - 25-1 Titans - 25-1 Cowboys - 30-1 Seahawks - 40-1 Broncos - 40-1 Panthers - 40-1 Redskins - 50-1 Ravens - 50-1 Colts - 60-1 Browns - 80-1 Bengals - 80-1 Dolphins - 80-1 Bills - 80-1 Bears - 80-1 Buccaneers - 80-1 Jets - 80-1 Cardinals - 100-1 I quit converting them to percentages when I reached 105%.
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Post by jb456 on Aug 13, 2018 13:52:10 GMT -5
OV should give the Giants some good production this year. If he doesn't, he can be cut after the season with a dead cap hit of $8M. This is really a make or break season for Vernon. He never even cam close to living up to that contract. I don't see how the Giants could swing this deal, pay KM and OBJ.
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Post by jb456 on Aug 13, 2018 13:59:20 GMT -5
If he doesn't, he can be cut after the season with a dead cap hit of $8M. This is really a make or break season for Vernon. He never even cam close to living up to that contract. I don't see how the Giants could swing this deal, pay KM and OBJ. ..................and Landon Collins Yeah, it's definitely not happening. It looks like they are generating the odds based off of need and ignoring any other factors.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 13, 2018 14:02:12 GMT -5
I get that. do the math.
33% chance Packers 25% chance Raiders 15% chance Jets 15% chance Bills 15% chance Redskins 10% chance Steelers 10% chance Giants 25% chance any other team
That's almost 150%
Vegas odds on 2019 Super Bowl winner... Patriots - 6-1 (17%) Rams - 10-1 (10%) Vikings - 10-1 (10%) Steelers - 10-1 (10%) Eagles - 10-1 (10%) Packers - 14-1 (7%) Falcons - 16-1 (6.25%) Texans - 16-1 (6.25%) Jaguars - 16-1 (6.25%) Chargers - 16-1 (6.25%) Saints - 18-1 (5.5%) Raiders - 18-1 (5.5%) 49ers - 20-1 (5%) Chiefs - 20-1 Giants - 20-1 Lions - 25-1 Titans - 25-1 Cowboys - 30-1 Seahawks - 40-1 Broncos - 40-1 Panthers - 40-1 Redskins - 50-1 Ravens - 50-1 Colts - 60-1 Browns - 80-1 Bengals - 80-1 Dolphins - 80-1 Bills - 80-1 Bears - 80-1 Buccaneers - 80-1 Jets - 80-1 Cardinals - 100-1 I quit converting them to percentages when I reached 105%. And of course...that's how they make money. So the 10/1 odds to get Mack aren't the actual estimated odds by Vegas. Just what they will pay.
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Post by DonnieYen on Aug 13, 2018 14:17:18 GMT -5
If It cost Odell I say no way. What good is Odell if we don't have a quarterback that can get the ball to him in 2019? Mack can shut down opposing offenses, and maybe Barkley can break one long touchdown run per game...win 7-0. And you have determined this after Eli went 3 series and the starters went 2-3 series if that Saquon went 1 series and Odell did not play? In your opinion do you think the team we saw on Thursday was representative of what we will see week one and during the season? I do not think that team we saw Thursday was the team we will see most of the year. Most of the game it was second, third, and fourth stringers. If that Is what you think our team will consist of during the season it means we are dealing with a ton of injuries and then you are right we have no chance. but lets try to stay positive we revamped our offensive line did some good things on defense and got the best running back in the draft. I thought Lauletta looked good and lets not Forget Eli didn't look great when he started out sometimes it takes a while for the kids to mature.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 14:53:17 GMT -5
Vegas odds on 2019 Super Bowl winner... Patriots - 6-1 (17%) Rams - 10-1 (10%) Vikings - 10-1 (10%) Steelers - 10-1 (10%) Eagles - 10-1 (10%) Packers - 14-1 (7%) Falcons - 16-1 (6.25%) Texans - 16-1 (6.25%) Jaguars - 16-1 (6.25%) Chargers - 16-1 (6.25%) Saints - 18-1 (5.5%) Raiders - 18-1 (5.5%) 49ers - 20-1 (5%) Chiefs - 20-1 Giants - 20-1 Lions - 25-1 Titans - 25-1 Cowboys - 30-1 Seahawks - 40-1 Broncos - 40-1 Panthers - 40-1 Redskins - 50-1 Ravens - 50-1 Colts - 60-1 Browns - 80-1 Bengals - 80-1 Dolphins - 80-1 Bills - 80-1 Bears - 80-1 Buccaneers - 80-1 Jets - 80-1 Cardinals - 100-1 I quit converting them to percentages when I reached 105%. And of course...that's how they make money. So the 10/1 odds to get Mack aren't the actual estimated odds by Vegas. Just what they will pay. Well, all I know is that the Vegas odds are a heck of a lot more accurate than anything that comes out of Skip Bayless's or Colin Cowherd's mouth.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 13, 2018 14:58:15 GMT -5
And of course...that's how they make money. So the 10/1 odds to get Mack aren't the actual estimated odds by Vegas. Just what they will pay. Well, all I know is that the Vegas odds are a heck of a lot more accurate than anything that comes out of Skip Bayless's or Colin Cowherd's mouth. Those aren't odds to win. Those are the % payouts you get if you bet on a team and it wins.
If they were REALLY odds, it would add up to 100%.
And I can say with great confidence that it is NOT all you know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 15:00:17 GMT -5
What good is Odell if we don't have a quarterback that can get the ball to him in 2019? Mack can shut down opposing offenses, and maybe Barkley can break one long touchdown run per game...win 7-0. And you have determined this after Eli went 3 series and the starters went 2-3 series if that Saquon went 1 series and Odell did not play? In your opinion do you think the team we saw on Thursday was representative of what we will see week one and during the season? I do not think that team we saw Thursday was the team we will see most of the year. Most of the game it was second, third, and fourth stringers. If that Is what you think our team will consist of during the season it means we are dealing with a ton of injuries and then you are right we have no chance. but lets try to stay positive we revamped our offensive line did some good things on defense and got the best running back in the draft. I thought Lauletta looked good and lets not Forget Eli didn't look great when he started out sometimes it takes a while for the kids to mature. The team we saw on the other side of the ball Thursday was the only team worse than us last year. Since then, they've drafted a QB that - in his first NFL game - made our defense look silly. Meanwhile...our 36 year-old QB is now 37, our #2 stunk up the joint, and our defense is - arguably - weaker than last year's. That's what I saw. I'm not opposed to being optimistic, but...I won't bury my head in the sand either.
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Post by DonnieYen on Aug 13, 2018 15:16:54 GMT -5
And you have determined this after Eli went 3 series and the starters went 2-3 series if that Saquon went 1 series and Odell did not play? In your opinion do you think the team we saw on Thursday was representative of what we will see week one and during the season? I do not think that team we saw Thursday was the team we will see most of the year. Most of the game it was second, third, and fourth stringers. If that Is what you think our team will consist of during the season it means we are dealing with a ton of injuries and then you are right we have no chance. but lets try to stay positive we revamped our offensive line did some good things on defense and got the best running back in the draft. I thought Lauletta looked good and lets not Forget Eli didn't look great when he started out sometimes it takes a while for the kids to mature. The team we saw on the other side of the ball Thursday was the only team worse than us last year. Since then, they've drafted a QB that - in his first NFL game - made our defense look silly. Meanwhile...our 36 year-old QB is now 37, our #2 stunk up the joint, and our defense is - arguably - weaker than last year's. That's what I saw. I'm not opposed to being optimistic, but...I won't bury my head in the sand either. again its preseason the starters hardly play. last preseason the Browns won all there preseason games then didn't win a single game during the season how much stock are we really putting in games that don't count and the starters hardly play? its just warm up to get them ready some of them don't even play. I doubt Saquon plays again this preseason after his minor injury and Odell didn't even play on Thursday. look I don't know if we are Playoff caliber this year but I know its too early to write us off. lets play at least one to three games during the regular season before we know what we really have. in 2007 we lost our first two games of the season how did that all turn out?
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 13, 2018 15:21:18 GMT -5
The team we saw on the other side of the ball Thursday was the only team worse than us last year. Since then, they've drafted a QB that - in his first NFL game - made our defense look silly. Meanwhile...our 36 year-old QB is now 37, our #2 stunk up the joint, and our defense is - arguably - weaker than last year's. That's what I saw. I'm not opposed to being optimistic, but...I won't bury my head in the sand either. again its preseason the starters hardly play. last preseason the Browns won all there preseason games then didn't win a single game during the season how much stock are we really putting in games that don't count and the starters hardly play? its just warm up to get them ready some of them don't even play. I doubt Saquon plays again this preseason after his minor injury and Odell didn't even play on Thursday. look I don't know if we are Playoff caliber this year but I know its too early to write us off. lets play at least one to three games before we know what we really have. in 2007 we lost our first two games of the season how did that all turn out? It's not about winning or losing games. Wins and losses are often determined by guys who won't even make the teams. It's about how well guys play who WILL be on the team.
Our guys didn't look so good.
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 13, 2018 15:30:23 GMT -5
By my math that's over 100%. It's almost 150%.
That is of course mathamatically impossible.
I think you're reading it wrong..."Any other team: 4/1" doesn't mean each individual team is 4/1. It means the odds of him going to any other team besides the ones listed is 4/1. Still my point is there is very little chance he comes to the Giants
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Post by DonnieYen on Aug 13, 2018 15:30:37 GMT -5
again its preseason the starters hardly play. last preseason the Browns won all there preseason games then didn't win a single game during the season how much stock are we really putting in games that don't count and the starters hardly play? its just warm up to get them ready some of them don't even play. I doubt Saquon plays again this preseason after his minor injury and Odell didn't even play on Thursday. look I don't know if we are Playoff caliber this year but I know its too early to write us off. lets play at least one to three games before we know what we really have. in 2007 we lost our first two games of the season how did that all turn out? It's not about winning or losing games. Wins and losses are often determined by guys who won't even make the teams. It's about how well guys play who WILL be on the team.
Our guys didn't look so good.
right but the guys that will be starting heck even second stringers only play a little at the beginning of these preseason games so either the rest will be cut, on the practice squad or third fourth stringers the only way we worry if guys get injured a lot of guys get injured but then that's true for all teams. its the same in baseball all the starters get pulled before or at the 5th inning you don't want to win the Grape Fruit League Trophy you want to have a good season and win the World Series the same can be said for Football. its about who gets hot when it counts. On paper were the 2007 and 2011 Giants teams the best team in the League? Hell No but they got hot when it counted.
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Post by Delicreep on Aug 13, 2018 15:37:58 GMT -5
I think you're reading it wrong..."Any other team: 4/1" doesn't mean each individual team is 4/1. It means the odds of him going to any other team besides the ones listed is 4/1. I get that. do the math.
33% chance Packers 25% chance Raiders 15% chance Jets 15% chance Bills 15% chance Redskins 10% chance Steelers 10% chance Giants 25% chance any other team
That's almost 150%
Hmmm...It's almost like the bookies are building in profit right in the odds they set for themselves. That doesn't sound right - let me make a call; I'm thinking that they made some sort of math mistake. Nope...turns out, they did it on purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 15:59:50 GMT -5
The team we saw on the other side of the ball Thursday was the only team worse than us last year. Since then, they've drafted a QB that - in his first NFL game - made our defense look silly. Meanwhile...our 36 year-old QB is now 37, our #2 stunk up the joint, and our defense is - arguably - weaker than last year's. That's what I saw. I'm not opposed to being optimistic, but...I won't bury my head in the sand either. look I don't know if we are Playoff caliber this year but I know its too early to write us off. We went into the draft with a "win now" strategy. If we DON'T make the playoffs, then it was a TERRIBLE strategy.
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