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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2020 7:32:11 GMT -5
Here it is, fans. The moment you've all waited for since about an hour and a half ago. Who will be Fbomb's magic pick? Well, this year, I'm going to do something a little different and also predict Gettleman's FA splash. Disclaimer.....these predictions came to me in an Oxy/Pineapple Express induced coma. I cannot be held responsible for any lost wages with Vegas. Place your bets responsibly.
Based on the story line that the Redskins will select Chase Young in the draft, the Giants will make their big FA splash with a pass rusher. Of course, the 3 big names to choose from are Barrett, Clowney and Ngakoue. Barrett was on a one year "show me" deal and he definitely "showed" everybody. Expect TB to sign him long term. Ngakoue was a hold out risk last year and is still a long way from reaching an agreement with Jax. Those negotiations will scare off potential suitors, including Dave Gettleman. So, my FA splash pick......the Giants will overpay for Clowney.
Next up....the draft. Washington will trade out of the #2 spot for a boatload of picks from a QB hungry team and Detroit will select what they hope will be Stafford's eventual replacement. The dude is made of glass. So, that's 3 QB's going 1, 2 and 3 and Chase Young will fall into our laps at #4. Gettleman will be inundated with trade offers but will be steadfast and choose the next player "touched by the hand of God." Chase Young will be our pick at #4. With rounds 2 and 3 used for OT and C.
So, there it is. You may flame away when ready.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Feb 4, 2020 7:58:02 GMT -5
Works for me.
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Post by Fletch842 on Feb 4, 2020 8:04:13 GMT -5
I'd be very pleased with that outcome, would be my ideal scenario. If the Skins take him, as most are currently predicting, I'd like for us to trade down for a boatload of picks to a QB hungry team. We have so many holes to fill, and not that many true blue-chip type prospects, but a lot of really good ones, I think we would do well.
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Post by Delicreep on Feb 4, 2020 8:36:55 GMT -5
Here it is, fans. The moment you've all waited for since about an hour and a half ago. Who will be Fbomb's magic pick? Well, this year, I'm going to do something a little different and also predict Gettleman's FA splash. Disclaimer.....these predictions came to me in an Oxy/Pineapple Express induced coma. I cannot be held responsible for any lost wages with Vegas. Place your bets responsibly. Based on the story line that the Redskins will select Chase Young in the draft, the Giants will make their big FA splash with a pass rusher. Of course, the 3 big names to choose from are Barrett, Clowney and Ngakoue. Barrett was on a one year "show me" deal and he defiantly "showed" everybody. Expect TB to sign him long term. Ngakoue was a hold out risk last year and is still a long way from reaching an agreement with Jax. Those negotiations will scare off potential suitors, including Dave Gettleman. So, my FA splash pick......the Giants will overpay for Clowney. Next up....the draft. Washington will trade out of the #2 spot for a boatload of picks from a QB hungry team and Detroit will select what they hope will be Stafford's eventual replacement. The dude is made of glass. So, that's 3 QB's going 1, 2 and 3 and Chase Young will fall into our laps at #4. Gettleman will be inundated with trade offers but will be steadfast and choose the next player "touched by the hand of God." Chase Young will be our pick at #4. With rounds 2 and 3 used for OT and C. So, there it is. You may flame away when ready. I don't know nothing about any of the players in the draft, but if you want a QB, Washington makes the most sense for a trade. |
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Post by jimmieray on Feb 4, 2020 8:52:37 GMT -5
Ummmm... so Gettleman will turn to FA for a premier pass rusher, because the Redskins are sure to scoop up Chase Young in the draft. But then draft Chase Young at #4, because he will fall to us?
2 stud pass rushers wouldn't be a terrible thing at all, just don't follow the logic of how they're acquired. And the O-line needs to addressed big time, with projects not being a good option for our GM this time around.
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Post by soflo on Feb 4, 2020 8:59:26 GMT -5
Chase Young landing in our lap would be a pleasant surprise after thinking we lost him after the skins game, but I'll admit we might be better off if Washington eliminated the possibility and WE trade down for more picks.
My own crystal ball says they stay put and take chase young because they hired a defensive coach and because their armchair owner GM saw all the mock draft ratings and knows Young is the sexy pick.
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Post by wtfjjk on Feb 4, 2020 9:07:23 GMT -5
Unfortunately will never happen. Chase Young even makes QB needy teams want to draft him.
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Post by GameTime on Feb 4, 2020 9:17:26 GMT -5
cant trade down too far. Need quality OL help big time.
I doubt Washington passes up on Young. Not sure what the state of their roster is though. Do they "need" a boat load of picks?
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Post by Nite on Feb 4, 2020 9:21:21 GMT -5
Joe Burrow....
And in the aftermath half of NY burns to the ground but what the peeps weren't paying attention (to) is Burrow was immediately traded for:
- 2 additional 1st rd picks..
- 1 2nd rd pick
- 1 4th rd pick
- 1 bag of doughnuts
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 4, 2020 9:23:18 GMT -5
I see Barrett and Ngakoue getting franchised. And Clowney will go to the highest bidder, which I’m hoping isn’t us.
The Giants have to, and I repeat have to add a premier pass rusher this offseason. We don’t have time to wait for Carter, Ximines, and if they bring back Golden to produce. As we saw in the playoffs, teams that can generate pressure win more than they lose. Teams that can’t (like us) are always on the outside looking in.
I also don’t see Washington trading out of their spot. Stranger things have happened, and having an imbecile as an owner in Snyder means anything is possible. But my guess the Redskins will select Chase Young at #2.
I would think we’re going to draft the tackle from Georgia Andrew Thomas at #4.
But then again I could see Gettleman going left when everyone thinks he’s going right.
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Post by lasion2 on Feb 4, 2020 9:38:07 GMT -5
I see Barrett and Ngakoue getting franchised. And Clowney will go to the highest bidder, which I’m hoping isn’t us. The Giants have to, and I repeat have to add a premier pass rusher this offseason. We don’t have time to wait for Carter, Ximines, and if they bring back Golden to produce. As we saw in the playoffs, teams that can generate pressure win more than they lose. Teams that can’t (like us) are always on the outside looking in. I also don’t see Washington trading out of their spot. Stranger things have happened, and having an imbecile as an owner in Snyder means anything is possible. But my guess the Redskins will select Chase Young at #2. I would think we’re going to draft the tackle from Georgia Andrew Thomas at #4. But then again I could see Gettleman going left when everyone thinks he’s going right. I don’t like to nitpick specific sentences in posts, so I apologize. But, why don’t the giants have time to wait for OX and Carter to develop? With the exceptions of Golden, Tate, and Zietler are there any main pieces on our roster that are over 27 years old? Add in a new HC, a new offense to learn, a new defense to learn...we got plenty of time. The clock isn’t ticking for us like it is for the eagles. Hell, I don’t think the watch has even started yet. Another year. Maybe two. With all that said. I’d pick Young at 4 in this scenario without even thinking about it. |
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 4, 2020 9:43:05 GMT -5
I see Barrett and Ngakoue getting franchised. And Clowney will go to the highest bidder, which I’m hoping isn’t us. The Giants have to, and I repeat have to add a premier pass rusher this offseason. We don’t have time to wait for Carter, Ximines, and if they bring back Golden to produce. As we saw in the playoffs, teams that can generate pressure win more than they lose. Teams that can’t (like us) are always on the outside looking in. I also don’t see Washington trading out of their spot. Stranger things have happened, and having an imbecile as an owner in Snyder means anything is possible. But my guess the Redskins will select Chase Young at #2. I would think we’re going to draft the tackle from Georgia Andrew Thomas at #4. But then again I could see Gettleman going left when everyone thinks he’s going right. I don’t like to nitpick specific sentences in posts, so I apologize. But, why don’t the giants have time to wait for OX and Carter to develop? With the exceptions of Golden, Tate, and Zietler are there any main pieces on our roster that are over 27 years old? Add in a new HC, a new offense to learn, a new defense to learn...we got plenty of time. The clock isn’t ticking for us like it is for the eagles. Hell, I don’t think the watch has even started yet. Another year. Maybe two. With all that said. I’d pick Young at 4 in this scenario without even thinking about it. How much time you willing to give? The clock is ticking on our GM, our head coach is starting fresh so he has plenty of time. But this is more to results need to be seen on the field. You like what you see from Carter in 2 years? I don’t, for every impactful game he‘s nonexistent for 10 of them. I get the let the kids develop, but I’m not putting all my eggs in one basket on “hoping” they step up. I draft, sign free agents who I believe would be an immediate impact. Comes a point you have to start producing, if not why not just give everyone a lifetime pass.. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2020 9:49:27 GMT -5
Ummmm... so Gettleman will turn to FA for a premier pass rusher, because the Redskins are sure to scoop up Chase Young in the draft. But then draft Chase Young at #4, because he will fall to us? 2 stud pass rushers wouldn't be a terrible thing at all, just don't follow the logic of how they're acquired. And the O-line needs to addressed big time, with projects not being a good option for our GM this time around. What's not to follow? During FA, everyone will still be thinking Chase Young to the Skins. So, DG will look to sign a pass rusher. But draft day, that all changes. DG will not let Chase Young get by us. |
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Post by bavarobeast on Feb 4, 2020 9:56:26 GMT -5
Clowney thing is possible yet doubtful.
I was intrigued by Chase Young until Michigan game. Biggest game of the year for him at that point and he didn't even get close to the QB. He was doubled teamed at times but for the most part he was kept in check by Jon Runyan a middle round prospect in this years draft. Young was also a non factor too often during his junior year at Ohio State. The number 4 pick needs to be more of a sure thing and although I think he could be a solid and possibly great pro I hope we don't draft Young.
Jerry Jeudy is a home run scoring machine that will change the dynamics of our offense.
He's the pick - I hope.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Feb 4, 2020 10:09:28 GMT -5
Clowney thing is possible yet doubtful. I was intrigued by Chase Young until Michigan game. Biggest game of the year for him at that point and he didn't even get close to the QB. He was doubled teamed at times but for the most part he was kept in check by Jon Runyan a middle round prospect in this years draft. Young was also a non factor too often during his junior year at Ohio State. The number 4 pick needs to be more of a sure thing and although I think he could be a solid and possibly great pro I hope we don't draft Young. Jerry Jeudy is a home run scoring machine that will change the dynamics of our offense. He's the pick - I hope. No way. OL and defense. This has to be the year they fix it. |
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Post by lasion2 on Feb 4, 2020 10:24:34 GMT -5
Krunch, I’m willing to give a 3rd rd draft pick more than 2 years. I think ultimately he is an ILB or a capable backup.
Carter, specifically, wasn’t really the point of my post. It was the mindset that all things need to be fixed immediately. You can’t just scream pass rusher and have one appear because you want one.
I’d rather take the highest rated prospect, at almost any position, as opposed to suffering from target fixation. There is a big drop off in talent after Young. No need to go a reaching for one early. We aren’t a pass rusher away from contention. But, if the value is there day 2, sure, pull the trigger.
FA is a bit different. We don’t know who will be available after tags and extensions get handed out. But, until I see a FA pass rusher produce big results, I’ll stick to my don’t sign top dollar LTs, WRs, or pass rushers in FA rule of thumb.
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Post by fifthavephil on Feb 4, 2020 10:31:21 GMT -5
Can not take anyone’s Mock or prediction seriously, until free agency period .
Maybe , even the combine included., medical and personality reports.
Though, one thing is sure , Joe Burrow will be the NO. One pick , in the Draft.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 4, 2020 10:31:54 GMT -5
Here it is, fans. The moment you've all waited for since about an hour and a half ago. Who will be Fbomb's magic pick? Well, this year, I'm going to do something a little different and also predict Gettleman's FA splash. Disclaimer.....these predictions came to me in an Oxy/Pineapple Express induced coma. I cannot be held responsible for any lost wages with Vegas. Place your bets responsibly. Based on the story line that the Redskins will select Chase Young in the draft, the Giants will make their big FA splash with a pass rusher. Of course, the 3 big names to choose from are Barrett, Clowney and Ngakoue. Barrett was on a one year "show me" deal and he defiantly "showed" everybody. Expect TB to sign him long term. Ngakoue was a hold out risk last year and is still a long way from reaching an agreement with Jax. Those negotiations will scare off potential suitors, including Dave Gettleman. So, my FA splash pick......the Giants will overpay for Clowney. Next up....the draft. Washington will trade out of the #2 spot for a boatload of picks from a QB hungry team and Detroit will select what they hope will be Stafford's eventual replacement. The dude is made of glass. So, that's 3 QB's going 1, 2 and 3 and Chase Young will fall into our laps at #4. Gettleman will be inundated with trade offers but will be steadfast and choose the next player "touched by the hand of God." Chase Young will be our pick at #4. With rounds 2 and 3 used for OT and C. So, there it is. You may flame away when ready. +1 I've mentioned in other threads how Young falling in our lap is not out of the question. I think it's more likely Washington and Detroit both trade back, but either way, Young could be there, and for some reason it's not being discussed as a potential scenario. |
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Post by infinite420 on Feb 4, 2020 10:41:54 GMT -5
Here it is, fans. The moment you've all waited for since about an hour and a half ago. Who will be Fbomb's magic pick? Well, this year, I'm going to do something a little different and also predict Gettleman's FA splash. Disclaimer.....these predictions came to me in an Oxy/Pineapple Express induced coma. I cannot be held responsible for any lost wages with Vegas. Place your bets responsibly. Based on the story line that the Redskins will select Chase Young in the draft, the Giants will make their big FA splash with a pass rusher. Of course, the 3 big names to choose from are Barrett, Clowney and Ngakoue. Barrett was on a one year "show me" deal and he defiantly "showed" everybody. Expect TB to sign him long term. Ngakoue was a hold out risk last year and is still a long way from reaching an agreement with Jax. Those negotiations will scare off potential suitors, including Dave Gettleman. So, my FA splash pick......the Giants will overpay for Clowney. Next up....the draft. Washington will trade out of the #2 spot for a boatload of picks from a QB hungry team and Detroit will select what they hope will be Stafford's eventual replacement. The dude is made of glass. So, that's 3 QB's going 1, 2 and 3 and Chase Young will fall into our laps at #4. Gettleman will be inundated with trade offers but will be steadfast and choose the next player "touched by the hand of God." Chase Young will be our pick at #4. With rounds 2 and 3 used for OT and C. So, there it is. You may flame away when ready. Andrew Thomas or Jeff Okudah. We badly need a LT and CB, which are two of three premium draft positions. I'd be floored if DG took a LB/S hybrid or RT at 4. Thomas is the only offensive tackle that could pan out to be a LT, and if things dont work out, at worst he's a solid RT. He seems to fit the DG mold of what he wants in a lineman. Thomas/Hernandez are pretty similar players, and would devastate defenses in the run game. Thomas also gives us alot of flexibility. Could play RT this year if we needed while Solder is on the book, or immediately to LT, and slide Solder to RT. |
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Post by hadenough on Feb 4, 2020 10:45:48 GMT -5
I def. think there's a chance 3 QBs go 1,2,3. Clowney and Young would be very nice. I just don't want the Giants spending big on 1 free agent. I want them to spread the money out. Get several $8-$10 mil type of players.
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Post by infinite420 on Feb 4, 2020 11:02:33 GMT -5
I def. think there's a chance 3 QBs go 1,2,3. Clowney and Young would be very nice. I just don't want the Giants spending big on 1 free agent. I want them to spread the money out. Get several $8-$10 mil type of players. In theory, getting several 8-10 million players would be ideal, but it rarely works out that way. When it does you end up with the Kareem Martins of the world for $6m/per. A good example, Kyle Rudolph, is getting $10m a year, hes terrible. But thats what the FA market dictates. Its time for DG to pony up and get one of the big FAs this year. We have a TON of space that has to be used. I think its a lock we resign L Williams, but after that it would be pretty sweet to see Clowney lined up next to him. Id be fine losing Golden in that process. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Feb 4, 2020 11:06:49 GMT -5
Here it is, fans. The moment you've all waited for since about an hour and a half ago. Who will be Fbomb's magic pick? Well, this year, I'm going to do something a little different and also predict Gettleman's FA splash. Disclaimer.....these predictions came to me in an Oxy/Pineapple Express induced coma. I cannot be held responsible for any lost wages with Vegas. Place your bets responsibly. Based on the story line that the Redskins will select Chase Young in the draft, the Giants will make their big FA splash with a pass rusher. Of course, the 3 big names to choose from are Barrett, Clowney and Ngakoue. Barrett was on a one year "show me" deal and he defiantly "showed" everybody. Expect TB to sign him long term. Ngakoue was a hold out risk last year and is still a long way from reaching an agreement with Jax. Those negotiations will scare off potential suitors, including Dave Gettleman. So, my FA splash pick......the Giants will overpay for Clowney. Next up....the draft. Washington will trade out of the #2 spot for a boatload of picks from a QB hungry team and Detroit will select what they hope will be Stafford's eventual replacement. The dude is made of glass. So, that's 3 QB's going 1, 2 and 3 and Chase Young will fall into our laps at #4. Gettleman will be inundated with trade offers but will be steadfast and choose the next player "touched by the hand of God." Chase Young will be our pick at #4. With rounds 2 and 3 used for OT and C. So, there it is. You may flame away when ready. Justin Herbert just might make that possible. I really hope that Tua gives teams a good medical update by the combine because I'm hoping he sneaks into the top 10 as well. We need to trade back if Young isn't there. Based on the hiring of the Penn State DL coach. I say we move back for the top OT available and Yetur Gross-Matos at DE. Add another Penn State playmaker to go with Barkley and Grant Haley. I want Becton in a trade back....The guy is a monster |
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Post by hadenough on Feb 4, 2020 11:12:00 GMT -5
Not necessarily...
Earl Thomas
Anthony Barr
Justin Houston
KJ Wright
Tyrann Mathieu
Preston Smith
Lamarcus Joyner
Ziggy Ansah
Tevin Coeman
Daryl Williams
Jordan Hick
Kwon Alexander
Malik Jackson
Mark Ingram
These are all guys that signed contracts between $5 mil and $12 mil per year...last year. The Giants could use just about anyone one of them.
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Post by bavarobeast on Feb 4, 2020 11:17:37 GMT -5
Clowney thing is possible yet doubtful. I was intrigued by Chase Young until Michigan game. Biggest game of the year for him at that point and he didn't even get close to the QB. He was doubled teamed at times but for the most part he was kept in check by Jon Runyan a middle round prospect in this years draft. Young was also a non factor too often during his junior year at Ohio State. The number 4 pick needs to be more of a sure thing and although I think he could be a solid and possibly great pro I hope we don't draft Young. Jerry Jeudy is a home run scoring machine that will change the dynamics of our offense. He's the pick - I hope. No way. OL and defense. This has to be the year they fix it. I wouldn't mind a OT in the first. We can get a solid one in the second I believe. There are no Jeudy's in the 2nd round and only 1 in the first. With DJ throwing we need stars on the outside. Slayton could be one Jeudy should be one. I think the hype of Young, Simmons.......and some others on defense is overblown. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 4, 2020 11:24:58 GMT -5
Ummmm... so Gettleman will turn to FA for a premier pass rusher, because the Redskins are sure to scoop up Chase Young in the draft. But then draft Chase Young at #4, because he will fall to us? 2 stud pass rushers wouldn't be a terrible thing at all, just don't follow the logic of how they're acquired. And the O-line needs to addressed big time, with projects not being a good option for our GM this time around. I actually did the same thing in my last mock(paid Barrett instead)as Young fell to me(I also resigned Golden and Williams).... Needless to say 90% of my draft(including 2 trade downs on day 2)was offense |
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Post by ratbastich on Feb 4, 2020 11:28:34 GMT -5
Next up....the draft. Washington will trade out of the #2 spot for a boatload of picks from a QB hungry team and Detroit will select what they hope will be Stafford's eventual replacement. The dude is made of glass. So, that's 3 QB's going 1, 2 and 3 and Chase Young will fall into our laps at #4. Gettleman will be inundated with trade offers but will be steadfast and choose the next player "touched by the hand of God." Chase Young will be our pick at #4. With rounds 2 and 3 used for OT and C. So, there it is. You may flame away when ready.
I actually think it would be something that Washington would do, though it would be hard to pass up on Young if you are in that spot. I guess it depends on who in the later part of the round really wants to get in there and get their quarterback....Raiders come to mind because I am not sure what they want to do with Carr. They have enough to give to someone to move up.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 4, 2020 11:31:29 GMT -5
No way. OL and defense. This has to be the year they fix it. I wouldn't mind a OT in the first. We can get a solid one in the second I believe. There are no Jeudy's in the 2nd round and only 1 in the first. With DJ throwing we need stars on the outside. Slayton could be one Jeudy should be one. I think the hype of Young, Simmons.......and some others on defense is overblown. I actually have Lamb as my favorite WR.... Maybe with a trade back a few spots one of these guys... This is such a deep WR draft we could easily get a top number 1 WR ...hell...early day 3.. But a Justin Jefferson,Jaylon Reagor,Hammler,Mims.. You know me how I'm I'm evangelical about having dynamic weapons outside to open everything up(the Chiefs proved to a t how you can he run heavy by having frighteningly dynamic weapons outside) I would prefer if possible to get a stud OT(I'm still on the Thomas train that a lot of people are jumping off of and I love Wirfs)with our first pick(again with a trade back)... Reagor and Slayton...2 guys sub 4.4(Reagor could hit sub 4.3)...we now have a Rams/Chiefs set up outside with a much improved o line and an OC that wants to push it downfield with a highly mobile qb and Barkley |
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Post by jimmieray on Feb 4, 2020 11:53:10 GMT -5
Ummmm... so Gettleman will turn to FA for a premier pass rusher, because the Redskins are sure to scoop up Chase Young in the draft. But then draft Chase Young at #4, because he will fall to us? 2 stud pass rushers wouldn't be a terrible thing at all, just don't follow the logic of how they're acquired. And the O-line needs to addressed big time, with projects not being a good option for our GM this time around. What's not to follow? During FA, everyone will still be thinking Chase Young to the Skins. So, DG will look to sign a pass rusher. But draft day, that all changes. DG will not let Chase Young get by us. Wouldn't your scenario make Gettleman look a bit foolish - misjudging other GMs' early first round draft picks, overpaying for Clowney in a panic to attain some pass rush, then picking pass rusher anyway in first round, and not addressing O-line with either big FA or first round semi-sure fix along there? Again, going from inadequate pass rush personnel to these two is mighty enticing - but the moves to do it seem contradictory.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2020 11:54:53 GMT -5
Can not take anyone’s Mock or prediction seriously, until free agency period . Maybe , even the combine included., medical and personality reports. Though, one thing is sure , Joe Burrow will be the NO. One pick , in the Draft. Well, TBF, I did give my free agency prediction along with my draft prediction. And more to my point.....it doesn't matter who we pick up in FA. If Chase Young falls in our laps.....that is who we will pick. There's no "Daniel Jones" for us in this draft. |
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 4, 2020 11:56:53 GMT -5
Krunch, I’m willing to give a 3rd rd draft pick more than 2 years. I think ultimately he is an ILB or a capable backup. Carter, specifically, wasn’t really the point of my post. It was the mindset that all things need to be fixed immediately. You can’t just scream pass rusher and have one appear because you want one. I’d rather take the highest rated prospect, at almost any position, as opposed to suffering from target fixation. There is a big drop off in talent after Young. No need to go a reaching for one early. We aren’t a pass rusher away from contention. But, if the value is there day 2, sure, pull the trigger. FA is a bit different. We don’t know who will be available after tags and extensions get handed out. But, until I see a FA pass rusher produce big results, I’ll stick to my don’t sign top dollar LTs, WRs, or pass rushers in FA rule of thumb. I said nothing about giving up on a player. But I’m also not going to sugar coat shit. I have been saying for sometime now Carter at best is an average player. And his play has shown that in two years. Want to move him inside? Ok, but I got to tell you. The inside linebacker position is not an easy position. Being able to understand gap control and covering these world class athletes at tightened would be a nightmare for him. But enough about Carter. The pass rush is no easy fix, hence we haven’t had one in years. In today’s NFL it doesn’t matter how good your secondary is, if you can’t get to the QB consistently you will lose.. Period. And I’m by no means asking to reach for a pass rusher just because it fills a need. But it needs to be addressed this offseason. We have many holes on this team, and the one hole that has been the biggest is the lack of a pass rush. |
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