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Post by DandyDon on Apr 9, 2020 11:15:20 GMT -5
You don't believe JJ was consulted on the fackrell signing? Yeah we are going to sign the 245 3-4 OLB to play 4-3 DE. Even though he has never played with his hand on the ground . He will be a stud playing in a 4-3 System I'm just asking you if you feel you know more about what JJ wants in a player than JJ does? He was signed, so I'm pretty sure JJ values whatever he brings to the defense. Unless you think DG signed him without talking to JJ, which is my original question to you.
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Post by TEM on Apr 9, 2020 11:33:54 GMT -5
Yeah we are going to sign the 245 3-4 OLB to play 4-3 DE. Even though he has never played with his hand on the ground . He will be a stud playing in a 4-3 System I'm just asking you if you feel you know more about what JJ wants in a player than JJ does? He was signed, so I'm pretty sure JJ values whatever he brings to the defense. Unless you think DG signed him without talking to JJ, which is my original question to you. I think he has input. As I believe our base Defense is a 3-4. It has it inherent problems . That is what we have the players to run.
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 9, 2020 11:47:29 GMT -5
Yeah we are going to sign the 245 3-4 OLB to play 4-3 DE. Even though he has never played with his hand on the ground . He will be a stud playing in a 4-3 System I'm just asking you if you feel you know more about what JJ wants in a player than JJ does? He was signed, so I'm pretty sure JJ values whatever he brings to the defense. Unless you think DG signed him without talking to JJ, which is my original question to you. LOL, maybe these high level people don't have all the time to think about these things and communicate, like we do.
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Post by DandyDon on Apr 9, 2020 12:32:01 GMT -5
I'm just asking you if you feel you know more about what JJ wants in a player than JJ does? He was signed, so I'm pretty sure JJ values whatever he brings to the defense. Unless you think DG signed him without talking to JJ, which is my original question to you. I think he has input. As I believe our base Defense is a 3-4. It has it inherent problems . That is what we have the players to run. JJ is already on record that the base can and will change week to week and even according to game situation.
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Post by TEM on Apr 9, 2020 13:25:22 GMT -5
I think he has input. As I believe our base Defense is a 3-4. It has it inherent problems . That is what we have the players to run. JJ is already on record that the base can and will change week to week and even according to game situation. Hitler told his generals to take Stalingrad before the winter also. Barking orders does not always produce the results wanted. The way I see it. If you don't have flower .You can't bake a cake. Let me ask you this why would he hire a DC that has only implemented a 3-4 as a DC? You are using words he said before Fackrell was signed and Graham was hired. You don't have to believe what the evidence points to. It does not change it. Our player are for a 3-4. If the DC can change is Defense week to week. I would be impressed. You may not see it but there difference playing a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 OLB.
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Post by DandyDon on Apr 9, 2020 13:38:34 GMT -5
JJ is already on record that the base can and will change week to week and even according to game situation. Hitler told his generals to take Stalingrad before the winter also. Barking orders does not always produce the results wanted. The way I see it. If you don't have flower .You can't bake a cake. Let me ask you this why would he hire a DC that has only implemented a 3-4 as a DC? You are using words he said before Fackrell was signed and Graham was hired. You don't have to believe what the evidence points to. It does not change it. Our player are for a 3-4. If the DC can change is Defense week to week. I would be impressed. You may not see it but there difference playing a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 OLB. The way I see it is if you don't have flower, make something else for dessert that tastes good. A big part of the problem recently is coaches trying to make cake without flower cause that's all they know how to do. Get what you can and figure it out with what you have. Will JJ actually be able to do this? I don't know, but at least has the right attitude.
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Post by TEM on Apr 9, 2020 13:43:45 GMT -5
Hitler told his generals to take Stalingrad before the winter also. Barking orders does not always produce the results wanted. The way I see it. If you don't have flower .You can't bake a cake. Let me ask you this why would he hire a DC that has only implemented a 3-4 as a DC? You are using words he said before Fackrell was signed and Graham was hired. You don't have to believe what the evidence points to. It does not change it. Our player are for a 3-4. If the DC can change is Defense week to week. I would be impressed. You may not see it but there difference playing a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 OLB. The way I see it is if you don't have flower, make something else for dessert that tastes good. A big part of the problem recently is coaches trying to make cake without flower cause that's all they know how to do. Get what you can and figure it out with what you have. Will JJ actually be able to do this? I don't know, but at least has the right attitude. As I said If that can be done. I will be impressed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 13:49:03 GMT -5
JJ is already on record that the base can and will change week to week and even according to game situation. Hitler told his generals to take Stalingrad before the winter also. Barking orders does not always produce the results wanted. The way I see it. If you don't have flower .You can't bake a cake. Let me ask you this why would he hire a DC that has only implemented a 3-4 as a DC? You are using words he said before Fackrell was signed and Graham was hired. You don't have to believe what the evidence points to. It does not change it. Our player are for a 3-4. If the DC can change is Defense week to week. I would be impressed. You may not see it but there difference playing a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 OLB.
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 10, 2020 5:51:44 GMT -5
JJ is already on record that the base can and will change week to week and even according to game situation. Hitler told his generals to take Stalingrad before the winter also. Barking orders does not always produce the results wanted. The way I see it. If you don't have flower .You can't bake a cake. Let me ask you this why would he hire a DC that has only implemented a 3-4 as a DC? You are using words he said before Fackrell was signed and Graham was hired. You don't have to believe what the evidence points to. It does not change it. Our player are for a 3-4. If the DC can change is Defense week to week. I would be impressed. You may not see it but there difference playing a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 OLB. You are correct, these statements came from January. But they were spoken with determination, and won many of us over. You are also correct about our current defensive roster, and what they're most suited for. That's where I'm concerned, that the first actual steps under this new coach are not in line with the mission statements. The general opinion on Yannick seems to be that he is average and over-priced. But if he is acquired, how do we feel about his scheme versatility (even if average in each formation) - can he do it?
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Post by TEM on Apr 10, 2020 9:18:57 GMT -5
Hitler told his generals to take Stalingrad before the winter also. Barking orders does not always produce the results wanted. The way I see it. If you don't have flower .You can't bake a cake. Let me ask you this why would he hire a DC that has only implemented a 3-4 as a DC? You are using words he said before Fackrell was signed and Graham was hired. You don't have to believe what the evidence points to. It does not change it. Our player are for a 3-4. If the DC can change is Defense week to week. I would be impressed. You may not see it but there difference playing a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 OLB. You are correct, these statements came from January. But they were spoken with determination, and won many of us over. You are also correct about our current defensive roster, and what they're most suited for. That's where I'm concerned, that the first actual steps under this new coach are not in line with the mission statements. The general opinion on Yannick seems to be that he is average and over-priced. But if he is acquired, how do we feel about his scheme versatility (even if average in each formation) - can he do it?
If he is acquired. We gave up or first and will over pay for mid tier DE . It will not in any way enhance what he does. He is what he is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 17:16:32 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 11, 2020 23:35:51 GMT -5
Basically Nah...I'm out as far as this goes 8 sacks a year is Vernon You don't pay a guy 20 million a year for Vernon production...not in a year they aren't ready to be in a championship window You get a guy like this next year after fixing the O line and making the offense around Jones a top.7 unit
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 12, 2020 7:17:28 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of trading for him either, he wants way too much money for his production, to me, it's not even close.
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