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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 15:07:21 GMT -5
Okwara waived.
John Jenkins signed
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Post by jintslifer1 on Sept 4, 2018 15:10:36 GMT -5
Wow. Didn’t see this coming at all
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Post by jintslifer1 on Sept 4, 2018 15:12:09 GMT -5
Look at it this way. For years we always bitched that we’re the boring team who never makes a splash. Well. We are making waves now. and it might sting now. But let’s have faith in the people running this new team I for one and super damn excited.
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Post by goldenratio on Sept 4, 2018 15:20:13 GMT -5
My suspicion is they were torn between moss and okwara for the last OLB spot anyway.
Much ado about nothing. Plenty of guys, including avery moss, who is on the PS, can fill that back up role as well as okwara, presumably.
Again i don't see the big deal except for fans being tied to names they know and being emotional about losing those ties.
PS A better thread title would be another sacrifice to the STEWART altar.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 4, 2018 15:40:54 GMT -5
you think they were ripping apart a 13-3 team lol wether we like it or not this was not a 1 or maybe even a 2 year fix, this team stunk and all people did was complain well this is how it's gonna be until they get some drafts under their belts.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 4, 2018 15:46:53 GMT -5
Is this guy an upgrade over Robert Thomas?
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Post by goldenratio on Sept 4, 2018 15:50:37 GMT -5
Is this guy an upgrade over Robert Thomas? no clue. but a good question. So long as thomas remains on a PS, the NYG can grab him back if need be, methinks. Churning the back end of a roster makes some sense in that regard i suppose.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 4, 2018 15:54:07 GMT -5
Is this guy an upgrade over Robert Thomas? from what I have been able to gather he is and other kid from from the raiders was a swap for francis, Jenkins is a nose tackle that can take some snaps off of snacks.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 4, 2018 15:56:05 GMT -5
Is this guy an upgrade over Robert Thomas? no clue. but a good question. So long as thomas remains on a PS, the NYG can grab him back if need be, methinks. Churning the back end of a roster makes some sense in that regard i suppose. Thomas went to buffalo think DG worked with there GM in Carolina he one of DGs guys.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 4, 2018 15:56:39 GMT -5
Is this guy an upgrade over Robert Thomas? That’s really the question....
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 4, 2018 16:08:57 GMT -5
Im suprised, always thought Okwara was good depth and he looked decent in our new system as well. Guess once we signed Edwards as a pass rushing OLB Okwaras days were numbered.
....Or maybe i had blind faith in the leadership and wanted Okwara to be better than he actually was. Needless to say, i wish him the best
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Post by goldenratio on Sept 4, 2018 16:18:02 GMT -5
Is this guy an upgrade over Robert Thomas? Whatever you do don't ask snacks!!! lol
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Post by TEM on Sept 4, 2018 16:22:34 GMT -5
We needed a NT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 16:26:09 GMT -5
I have always liked Okwara, hate this move. I hope he catches on somewhere and shows what he can do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 16:29:40 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed a bunch of the guys we've signed were cut by awful Ds? Raiders, Browns, Bears? Come on now.
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 4, 2018 16:34:09 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed a bunch of the guys we've signed were cut by awful Ds? Raiders, Browns, Bears? Come on now. A damning indictment of the talent or lack thereof that pervaded this roster.
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 4, 2018 16:35:12 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed a bunch of the guys we've signed were cut by awful Ds? Raiders, Browns, Bears? Come on now. Oh great another "they cant be good since so and so cut them" person.... You do understand that good players can be on bad teams and vice versa, and not everyone that gets cut is a crap player, right??
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Post by Easy E on Sept 4, 2018 16:37:15 GMT -5
Yep, we decided there was a greater need for depth behind Snacks. Prior to signing Jenkins, we didn't have a true NT with experience. The plan was to rely on Tomlinson and Hill to give Snacks a blow.
Whichever team ends up getting Okwara is getting a solid player, he played well when we lost JPP years ago and this preseason led our team in total pressures.
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Post by TEM on Sept 4, 2018 16:43:47 GMT -5
Yep, we decided there was a greater need for depth behind Snacks. Prior to signing Jenkins, we didn't have a true NT with experience. The plan was to rely on Tomlinson and Hill to give Snacks a blow.
Whichever team ends up getting Okwara is getting a solid player, he played well when we lost JPP years ago and this preseason led our team in total pressures.
He will be missed . I looks like Gettelman wants big men to clog up that front. The more O-linemen the NT and 2 DTs lock up. It frees up our LBs and edge rushers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 16:45:58 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed a bunch of the guys we've signed were cut by awful Ds? Raiders, Browns, Bears? Come on now. Oh great another "they cant be good since so and so cut them" person.... You do understand that good players can be on bad teams and vice versa, and not everyone that gets cut is a crap player, right?? Good players can be on bad teams. Cut guys aren’t on the team. I have a major issue with players CUT by bad teams. As in OFF(not on) the bad team.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 4, 2018 16:49:02 GMT -5
Is this guy an upgrade over Robert Thomas? I doubt it. But it's their guy not Reece's and McAdoo's. There moving as many people from the old regime out as they possibly can. Moss can always be brought up to the roster if this guy fails. And probably Okwara can be put on the Practice Squad if they wish.
Tanney shouldn't be blamed one iota for this move. IMHO Okwara was a bubble guy to begin with. But this regime wants to move as many of the old regimes players out as possible. I have no proof of this but I just feel the atmosphere on this team from last year was still so bitter and it just lingered all over the locker room. McAdoo really infected the Giant team and you just might have to clean house to get rid of the smell. Just my opinion
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 4, 2018 17:13:16 GMT -5
Oh great another "they cant be good since so and so cut them" person.... You do understand that good players can be on bad teams and vice versa, and not everyone that gets cut is a crap player, right?? Good players can be on bad teams. Cut guys aren’t on the team. I have a major issue with players CUT by bad teams. As in OFF(not on) the bad team. I'd think the 2nd worst team in the league needs as many decent bodies as it can get. It's gonna take years to fix this roster.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 4, 2018 17:20:02 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed a bunch of the guys we've signed were cut by awful Ds? Raiders, Browns, Bears? Come on now. Has anyone noticed that the guys we cut were cut from an awful D (31 in league last year)?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 17:25:28 GMT -5
Did Reese ever find a decent DE other than JPP?
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Sept 4, 2018 17:29:33 GMT -5
Is this guy an upgrade over Robert Thomas? Ask Snacks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 17:29:34 GMT -5
Did Reese ever find a decent DE other than JPP? He pretty relentlessly and directly championed Justin Tuck to Accorsi.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 4, 2018 17:44:22 GMT -5
Did Reese ever find a decent DE other than JPP? He pretty relentlessly and directly championed Justin Tuck to Accorsi. And supposedly Osi was one of his finds as well. Seemed to have lost his mojo with DEs the last 5 years..
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 4, 2018 17:44:59 GMT -5
So that's 17 out of 50 non special teams players left.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 17:45:27 GMT -5
He pretty relentlessly and directly championed Justin Tuck to Accorsi. And supposedly Osi was one of his finds as well. Seemed to have lost his mojo with DEs the last 5 years.. He was excellent as the director of scouting or whatever that title was at the time.
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Post by lt56 on Sept 4, 2018 18:23:25 GMT -5
Needed a Nose Tackle behind Snacks, no way you go into the season without one
Might have to activate Avery Moss from Practice Squad already if Vernon and Barwin are not healthy. Been a very weird 48-72 Hours not the time to try and turnover the Roster Days before the season. Our Special Teams might be Awful for the first few games of the season with all the new guys trying to rush in here and get adjusted
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